Featherweight Fanatics Archives

August 1997

Sunday, August 17 - Saturday, August 23

Date: Sun, 17 Aug 1997 13:19:36 -0400
Subject: General info

HI All:
By the time you all receive this, I'll be vacationing for two weeks!
Firstly, I hope that Sue is well and back!  This has been a dreary week
without my FW digests, that's for sure.  I hope she knows how much she's
Next:  To Fran G:  Please don't apologize for not knowing your new
machine wasn't a Featherweight.  It takes time to learn to identify them
all.  At first, all old sewing machines used to look alike to me, now
I'm much better at judging them and identifying.  Just stick with this
digest, and you will learn.  Also, if you have the capabilities to "surf
the net", try going through the FWFanatics web page, this will show
great photos of Featherweights and if you try the links, they will lead
to some fabulous web pages which have tons of machine photos.  This was
part of the way I learned, there are so many more wonderful web sites
now as well, than when I first got involved.  You are new to all this
and learning, don't make apologies, just enjoy the wonderful old machine
that you now own!  Sounds like a goodie!  When you finally do find a
Featherweight, you can just add that to the collection you have already
begun.  Enjoy!  I find the older shuttle operated machines make the best
stitch of all.  Those shuttles really do hold allot of thread too!

Well, gang, as the song goes "see you in September", I'll be home on
Sept. 1st.  Enjoy the rest of August, and remember over the Labor Day
holiday weekend, Lights on for Safety.
Take care,
Date: Sun, 17 Aug 1997 10:51:00 -0600
Subject: help: old sewing machine


I need some assistance.
My grandmother gave me an old sewing machine.

I want to know how old it is, and it's market value.

It's a portable-hand crank machine with cover.



Model No: 705

Serial Number:  1764577

Any help appreciated,

Date: Sun, 17 Aug 1997 14:08:50 +0000
Subject: Book


I hope Sue is feeling better -- I had kidney infection once and it is no fun
and very painful.

Somewhere I saw offered a book on identifying old Singer machines (U.S.
models) and I am interested but have lost the information and don't know where
I saw it in the first place.  If anyone can give me this information I would
appreciate an email. 

Date: Sun, 17 Aug 1997 18:43:17 -0400
Subject: Mangle

I am new to the FWF and have enjoyed reading all the postings.  I've
learned alot.  After my mom's featherweight gets fixed I'll put the info
to use.
I was reading the local Shopper paper today, August 17, and saw an add I
thought someone might be interested in.  "Free Ironrite mangle iron with
chair, excellent condition.  1-517-736-3622."  The prefix of the phone
number is a Mikado, Michigan number in northeastern Michigan.  I know
nothing else about it.
I had never heard of a mangle until I started reading these postings.
Then I saw one at a garage sale this weekend and then this add.  Now I
wish I could find featherweights.
Date: Sun, 17 Aug 1997 06:54:01

Dear Fws; my two cents worth, I already tried this earlier in the week and
failed miserablie.  Now my pine shelves showed and got installed by my
creative sister on sat, they are a victorian design with the shelve support
being a curved arch like thing, very nice, with a detailed design board
behind, and strong enough to support 28, 99k, and such let alone some fws.
They make the treadle showroom if anything I am now considering having here
make the baseboard instead of going cheap.  This week, spotters have
brought the following items from the south, a rough but complete 115,
600e,328j,247, a large heavy copy of teh 15-88 made in spain so much a copy
they even take the left lever bobbin case.  Now from the east a mint 301
case (SOLD ALREADY) a 28 dated R with a black walnut case in about cond 5
or 6.  a nice clean 1951 annivers 128 in a bentwood. Did I mention the 28
is a handcrank with the slot in case to run as a treadle of certain stands.
Being that this is in a black walnut case , I dont expect to have it long.
I alreadly got a 99 handcrank in a early bentwood complete with book dated
1917. But is a worn machine and a may switch the head and put something
pretty in the handcrank case and crank.  Now too just run this past some
feathers had some inquires on just how a puzzle box is too look, now have
taken a very fragile book to a print shop and having a lot made, now do the
costs of laser copying and having the original laminated to be able to
handle and hiring professionals , this is job beyond my ten year old sharp
photocopier.  This one book is the list of instructions complete for the
puzzle box for singer models 27, 28. We are going to offer these for $10.us
including, I am paying probably too much for printing costs, but I dont
want too shop and I have dealt at this firm for a long while and they
usually do fine work. shipping included well if thats too much dont buy
them, I can always start campfires with them at the camper.  Now that just
about it,  well am getting tired and need to go rest a bit. yours mike
Date: Sun, 17 Aug 1997 19:41:08 -0400
Subject: Catching up

Hi Everyone: 

Seems like I've been gone forever.  We went on a beautiful vacation to
Maine but alas no sm hunting because the family forbade it, said they
wouldn't help me carry the things home.  Just when I got caught up on my
e-mail and digests, my mail host went down.  Computers and cars--when they
work, great, and when they don't, total irritation.  Pardon the lateness of
some of my posts:

Thanks to all who e-mailed me and posted suggestions re: removing tape
residue from my newest FW.  FWIW, kerosene seems to have worked the best of
all the  suggestions.

Split fingers:  if you can stand one more hint.  If your fingers are split
due to quilting--you need to build up a callous.   Dip your sore finger in
rubbing alcohol, take my name in vain  and go to bed.  It only hurts
for a minute but toughens up the tender skin.  Do this a few times and
you'll be able to quilt all day.  While quilting, use Bag Balm, yes it
really is used on cows private parts.  The stuff doesn't stain fabrics but
does moisturize your skin.  Both these suggestions sound weird, but they do

Carol posted about a leather case, of which I have one also.  It's full of
neat stuff:

The case is 11 1/2" x 10 1/2" x 4" deep with 7 separate compartments.  It
contains:  Seam ripperand threader with guide, a Pinker with manual, green
attachment box, full, for a FW, a Singercraft Guide with instructions, cams, Singer Hemstitcher and Picot Edger with instructions, many feet and
attachments, plus a tissue paper  which says Singer and has a geometric
design, remotely similar to the geometric design on a FW.  

I bought a new machine for my birthday, as if I need a reason , a 99k
handcrank, 1916, from Jim Sorrell.  The sm is beautiful and I recommend Jim
Graham:  so glad you're feeling better.  It's nice to see you've kept your
sense of humor even when you were under the weather.  Some people get so
grouchy.  My DH recently tried to quit smoking.  He became so impossible, I
started to drink and asked him to smoke again,  only kidding.  He is
smoking again however!

Take care and happy hunting!
Date: Sun, 17 Aug 1997 20:53:12 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: 201

Hello All,

        Does anyone have a 201for sale at a reasonable price in good
condition.  I live in Massachusetts.  Thank you

Date: Sun, 17 Aug 1997 22:23:06 -0400
Subject: Wilcox and Gibbs machine

I purchased a Wilcox and Gibbs machine that is missing its spool holder. 
Is it possible to find a replacement?  Also does anyone have any
directions for threading?

Date: Sun, 17 Aug 1997 22:40:31 -0400
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 8/9/97

To Susan K.  Re. Vickers.

Vickers is a large British Corporation.  They make many different
products.  Rolls Royce engines is one of them, and army tanks for the
military is another.  They also have a large medical division in the
United States by the name of Air Shields were they make biomedical
electronic equipment.  Probably somewhere in the past they were into
sewing machines as well.  They have a very long standing history in the
UK with government contracts.

Date: Mon, 18 Aug 97 10:32:05 EST
Subject: Featherweight Identification

One thing I am looking for but couldn't find on your web page is just exactly 
how to identify a Featherweight machine.  How are they marked - other than the 
serial number?  Does it say "Featherweight" on the Singer decal on the arm of 
the machine or what?  I saw one go at an auction Friday afternoon for $400.  I 
did not see the machine (I got there a little late to see everything)  but do 
know it was still in the carrying case.  That seems to be the going price 
around here.  I just wanted to confirm how to identify one.

Date: Mon, 18 Aug 1997 19:10:29 -0400
Subject: Trade Cards

        I know some of you collect trade cards. Someone I deal with has four
extensive lists of Singer, sewing machine and thread related cards at
reasonable prices if anyone is interested. Plus she is about to sell her
personal collection of Coats & Clark. She gave me permission to email her
lists to anyone interested. I have no interest in this, other than the fact
that the more cards she sells the more money she has to buy more cards to sell!

Happy Featherweighting,
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 1997 17:31:04 -0700
Subject: General Electric Sew Handy


Over the weekend I was surprised by my husband with a General Electric
portable sewing machine!  The machine is green, came in a black case
with two gold latches and a gold lock (very similiar to the FWF case,
manual, oil can, three metal screwdrivers, large, small and stilleto 
(they look exactly like the FWF screwdrivers), cleaning brush, Singer
sewing machine needles, 2 extra bobbins and a black box of attachments
with the top missing.

The machine appears to be all original including the old cord and foot
pedal.   On the inside of the case it says General Electric COmpany
Merchandise Dept, Bridgeport, Conn.  The machine runs good, but a little
sluggish.  Even the light works!  

There are no numbers on most of the attachments except for a GREIST
Tucker and GREIST Ruffler.  

Does anyone have any information on this machine?  I believe is it the
GE SEWHANDY mentioned in Nancy's new FWF book. It matches that picture.
I'd really love to find out more about this little GREEN MACHINE!! 
Anyone know of any books or other sources that might give me more
info???  The serial number is A9054 - any way of finding the birthdate?

What a great find!!!!  Happy collecting to all!!

Date: Mon, 18 Aug 1997 20:44:42 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Sincere Books Case

Today I received a letter from the Arizona Attorney General's office in
response to the one that I wrote about the Sincere Books and I quote:
                                         RE: CIC97-13331  BK
The Consumer Protection and Advocacy Section of this office is in receipt of
your complaint regarding the above named company.  Our office is currently
looking into the business practices of BK.  The investigative
process can sometimes be very lengthy and we appreciate your patience during
this time.  If you have additional information regarding this matter, please
write to us and refer to the complaint number above.  It is also very
important that you notify our office should you have a change in address or
telephone number.  Thank you for bringing this matter to our attention.
It is signed Cynthia Francis, Legal assistant, Consumer Protection and
Advocacy Section.

Has anyone written to this department about the recent attempt to sell the
books through Amazon?  I did not see the offer so I do not feel that I can
write to them about it.

Date: Tue, 19 Aug 97 03:06:53 UT
Subject: Great day

Glad the digest is back.  I was going through withdrawal. Hope you're feeling 
better Sue.
Saturday was just one of those days you have to thank the SM fairy for.  I 
went to an outdoor antique show and really hit pay dirt.  Came home with an 
oval Singer oil can that looks like brand new (did they make reproductions?) 
for $10; a Vulcan Minor toy SM for $50; a Casige toy for $50; a Standard 
Rotary machine in a drawing room cabinet - decals in great condition, all 
attachments included, and cabinet stripped and ready to be waxed for $175; and 
a 99K in immaculate condition for $15. Good job I only had time to do half the 
market.  On the way home, I stopped at Salvation Army and got a display 
cabinet for my toys for $40.  Needless to say, I was walking on air!
Last week I got a really interesting Singer Sewing Skills Reference Book - 
published by Singer, 1955 - price 95 cents.  It includes little envelopes of 
precut fabric, each one an individual lesson.  It covers everything from 
choosing pins to lesson plans for using all the attachments.  The fabrics are 
mostly yellow, mauve and minty green.
Will be on vacation for a couple weeks, so hope to hit lots of junk stores on 
the way.  One kid will love it; the other one will hate it.  Oh, well, you 
can't please all of the people all of the time! 

Happy hunting!
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 1997 22:26:06 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Cleaning

In a message dated 97-08-18 18:38:04 EDT, you write:

>> Let me second the request for good overall cleaning information. People
 they go over the machine with WD40 and then good sewing machine oil. WHERE
 exactly doyou put the WD40?  >>

What DH has found works the best for cleaning is using an oil soaked rag,
spraying a little carbuerator cleaner (or WD-40) on the rag and wiping the
finish of the  machine with it.

Date: Mon, 18 Aug 1997 22:26:51 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Egyptian

Hi everyone,
We've been seeing lots of Red Eyes it seems, but we finally found our first
Egyptian decaled Singer.  I haven't reached Singer yet, but we think its
around 1902+  The price was $25 at an estate sale. I grabbed it right away.
Actually, the house had been sold & the new owners were selling what was left
in the house and the Egyptian was one of those things.  It's been
electrified, but it still has the original flywheel and very good condition
except for some wear on the decals on the front of the cloth area.   It
 still had been in use; there were 2 spools of thread on plastic spools in
the case.

There were no attachments with the machine, but I asked and they went back to
check the closet where it had been stored and they came back with a baggie
full of old Singer attachments--an interesting old style ruffler, etc., and
some other things which I have no clue about.  Does anyone have a web site
where I can see pictures of old style attachments?

The other interesting thing was that the lady who just bought the house is
94!  She had been living in an apartment with another lady & decided she
wanted to own her own place.  So now she has a little house with a big yard
backed up to the Wolf River.

Gail R
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 1997 22:50:43 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Parts

I am the new owner of a nice featherweight.  Until today I enjoyed using it
for travel and as a supplement to my Bernina.  Today, my 5 year old son
knocked the machine off the table and the bobbin winder sheared off.  I am
trying to find a spare part to buy. Any ideas?

Many thanks.
Subject: centennial
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 1997 22:52:28 -0500

Hi everyone.  I was in Newton Kansas last Thursday and saw a Centennial FW 
with table , case etc for $450.  He also had another FW for $350.  If
anyone wants more info email me .  As always--no
afil. with this guy just thought someone might be interested.

Date: Mon, 18 Aug 1997 22:29:10 -0500
Subject: SM Jacoby

My friend saw a sewing machine that he was thinking about purchasing but isn't sure what the function of the machine is!  It's a treadle with 2 foot pedals, is an SM Jacoby, and has 2 discs on the side of the needle and the needle goes both in front of and in back of these 2 discs.  It also has American flags stenciled on the machine which is cast iron.  Could this be a vertical feed machine?  Or did it have another specific function other that just sewing
straight lines?  I hope I have given enough information about it.  Also,
if it is a vertical feed, what seems to be the average going price for one of these.  He said it is in a cabinet with no drawers in it.  Any information would be helpful.  

Date: Mon, 18 Aug 1997 20:49:58 -0800
Subject: pfaff 332 manual needed

I picked up a Pfaff 332, and would really love a manual for it.  Of
course, I'd be happy to pay the going rate.  Thanks,  Sharon
Subject: Dunham treadle
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 1997 23:23:12 -0600

    I recently saw an old treadle with the name 'Dunham' on it.  It was
ornately decorated with strange birds with very long, thin, open beaks and
red tongues.  Kind of dragon-looking things.  It had the bullet shaped
bobbin that swings in an arc, front to back and disk tension on the front. 
It seemed to be in working order and the cabinet also had ornate decals
with the original drawer pulls.  It was quite unique with attachments but
no manual.  Does anyone know anything about this brand of machine? I have
never heard of it before but it was a beautiful treadle.  
Date: Tue, 19 Aug 1997 03:11:08 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 8/10/97

Hi Yall,

Am so glad you are feeling better Sue! Not fun to feel ill.

I missed having FW digest too.

Found a wonderful five drawer parlor cabinet with a red eye last week.
Besides my FWs I think it my very favorite sm. It"s in good condition and
glorious to look at.

Thanks to FW Fanatics I've gotten in contact with several other FWers and
hope to meet them in person..we may even go sm hunting together..who knows?

Mn Annie
Date: Tue, 19 Aug 1997 03:48:31 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: 201 Manual?

Hi Feathers,

Sue, so glad you are feeling better!  Thanks so much for all your hard work
on FWF.

Does anyone out there in Featherland know where I might find a copy of a 201
manual?  I will quite happily pay for any costs involved for copying,
mailing, etc.
Thanks in advance.

Date: Mon, 18 Aug 1997 22:26:38 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: New style treadle?

Hi everyone,
We went to look at a machine advertised as an antique treadle the other day.
 I forgot now what the serial no. was, but at the time we figured that it was
a 40's machine.  It was a godzilla finish Singer in a very plain 5 drawer
treadle cabinet.  The Singer decals were almost worn off.  (I don't imagine
they lasted long on that paint).  The legs of the treadle were what I would
call a trestle style & made of a lighter weight metal (steel?).  I'm thinking
that this was a 'modern' treadle cabinet?

The man said that his parents moved here from Germany in 1948 and thinks they
bought it then. (Not my idea of an antique, since it's younger than I am!) I
think it makes sense that the machine was more or less new then.  They didn't
have much money and being a rural area maybe didn't have electricity yet at
their home.   I remember not having electric at my parents cabin in Michigan
until the late 40's-50.
Gail R
Date: Tue, 19 Aug 1997 07:11:02 -0400
Subject: Wilcox and Gibbs Needle

I asked about a thread spool and instructions/manual for my Wilcox and
Gibbs, but I forgot to ask about where I might find a needle.  Any

Date: Tue, 19 Aug 1997 07:29:56 -0400
Subject: Singer 24 & FW

Hi Everyone,
    I'm still up on cloud 9 - I'm finally getting my birthyear FW. She's coming from a fellow FWF and I can't wait to see her.  My birthday is Sunday and this is a gift to myself.  An added bonus is that she's a Centennial. Thanks Linda!
   I bought a Singer 24 (c. 1921) last week in a bentwood case. We were at a flea market on Sunday looking for machines, darners, etc. when the dealer mentioned that she had an old Singer at home but the problem was that it was a chain stitch.  I didn't see that as a problem so she gave me her home phone number and on Friday I picked it up.  Great condition - don't think it's been used.  She bought it in the 40s from a co-worker who needed money due to illness, but she hadn't used it because it was a chain stitch. It has a black stitch plate and all the decals are still intact. The case had about 70 years of grime on it, so I used KOTTON KLENSER on it and now its about 6 shades lighter.  That stuff is great - takes all the dirt and grime off and leaves a nice luster.
Date: Tue, 19 Aug 1997 07:33:05 -0400 (EDT)

Hi,  Try letting it set open in the sun for a few days, the put an air
freshener in the case and leave it in.  It worked for me .  Good Luck
Subject: Hochschild Kohn machine
Date: Tue, 19 Aug 1997 12:37:03 +0000

For Suzie:
Hochschild Kohn was a long established, locally owned dept store in
Baltimore, MD.  It is also sadly missed-just could stand up to the big
chains.  I would guess that they simply put their label on the machine you have.

Date: Tue, 19 Aug 1997 10:07:03 -0400
Subject: Couple of old machines


I just bought 2 machine and was wondering if anyone knows if they are of
any value at all. I probably paid too much but they both are in
excellent condition and run great.I have no idea of the age but I would
guess late 50's or early 60's.
They are:
 Delux 15A,  Model "CB", color is Peach
 Dressmaker "Delux" Mfg by Precision, s/n M-60-3970
I would appreciate any info anyone can supply. I'm not sure if I should
keep them of trash them and write it or what?

Date: Tue, 19 Aug 1997 10:11:13 -0400
Subject: Wanted

I'm looking for a foot control and cord for a Singer 201, s/n AE684378.
I have a 201 that's like new but without any attachments and foot pedal.

Date: Tue, 19 Aug 1997 10:43:24 -0400
Subject: Wanted Items

Hi All:

I have a quilting friend who very much wants to buy a white FW.  If anyone
out there has one for sale would you please contact me.  

Thanks Alot!
Date: Tue, 19 Aug 1997 13:29:21 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Difference between a 501 & 401?

I have a  401a that I have used since 1981. It was purchased new by my
mother-in-law about 1959/60. She recently told me that it was the top of the
line, very expensive and they saved quite a while in order to pay for it. I
have sewn everything imaginable on it -even repaired a canvas tent. It runs
quietly and smoothly. 
I taught my daughter-in-law to sew on it and she used it for the last two
years. I like it so much that I recently bought another one.  I will be
giving the first one to my daughter since it was her grandmother's. I will
probably give the second one to my daughter-in-law which means that I need to
find another one for myself!  
Unfortunately, I can't compare it to a 501 because I don't have one (yet),
but it is on my wish list.

Date: 19 Aug 97 13:34:40 EDT
Subject: post

Hello Everyone...

For  Susan,  re:  Throat Plate removal... I remove the bed extension first, so 
it  doesn't  interfere  with  the  plate. DO NOT LOSE THE WASHERS from the bed 
extension  screws,  as  they  are  no longer available! Removing the two plate 
screws should allow the plate to pop out. Sometimes grime gets in the bed cut-
out  and  makes  it more difficult to remove. You can scrape the cut-out area, 
carefully  avoiding  scratching  the  bed, to free things up for the next time 
you clean...

For Jack, re: 221 Bobbin Cases... Email me privately for a quote.

For  All,  re:  403...  I'm  sure many of you will remember the pristine 403 I 
found  a  few  months  ago - the one that had only been used for a month or so 
before  the  owner  fell  ill... Well, I sold the machine to a gal from Atanta 
who  was  visiting  the  island  while  her  son  participated in a local golf 
tournament.  She kept coming back in to the shop to look at the 403. Turns out 
that  she  learned  to  sew in high school on her mother's (then new) 403! She 
had  tried  other  machines  over  the  years,  but  never  one  that  was  as 
comfortable to use as her mom's 403... Well, now she's got her very own!

Our  friend, Douglas (pres. of Kona Bay fabrics) sent us the following with an 
email message, and I thought I'd share it with you guys!

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Date: Tue, 19 Aug 1997 14:07:46 EDT
Subject: International Quilt Festival

Several feathers have posted that they plan on attending the Festival in
Houston in October, and have suggested we have a Feather Gather.   Perhaps we
could meet at one of the booths????
Connie in Lexington where we're not getting a lot of rain but that's okay, the
grass isn't growing so rapidly.
Subject: Catching UP
Date: Tue, 19 Aug 1997 10:57:08 -0700

Hi, all;

Looks like lots of us a "catching up".  Somewhere in cyberspace is a
message telling youn all that I have changed servers, which turned
out to be a big mess!  Think I lost abourn 150 messages.  Anyway,
just to make everyone current, my new email address is: 
captdick@nwlink.com       and my new web site address is given below.
 If you have my site on a favorites list or link, I'm afraid you'll
have to change it.  Sorry for the inconvenience, but the service I
was getting became absurd.  Again, be very sure about getting the
right web site address.  The first day I was playing with it, I
didn't realize it had to have that little tilda thing ( ~ ) in it or
it won't work.  Spent several days "de-bugging" the site and think
it's all working right at the new address now.  No counter any more,
but since I already know I get just under 1000 hits a month, guess I
don't need it.

I am still getting the FWF list and ISMACS by forwarding from the old
address, but hope that that will change soon as I have sent the
change in to both places.  I hope the rest of you will catch up with
me again soon.

Aside from all that... I have started the challenge quilt!  I cut
over 2000 2" squares from 1930's fabric...that's for HALF of the
blocks!   I am using a 1939 15-88 treadle that is a commemorative
badge machine from the Canadian National Exhibition in Toronto.

Captain Dick
Date: Tue, 19 Aug 97 15:08:20 +0100
Subject: Sincere's book orders

These two messages were supposed to appear together in the same FW list, but
got separated.  Since the first one had the explanation, but didn't appear
til after Sue recovered, I am sending them again so it makes sense.  If you
haven't ordered books, you can skip the whole message.  Thanks to those of
you who wrote and told me my sample letter was helpful.

Jan (not Bob) in NJ

I would like to ditto Chris's request to write to the AZ Attorny General's
Office if you have paid for and not received the Sincere's books advertised
on FWF by BK.

While I am sympathetic to any personal problems that Ms. K has, nothing
excuses fraud and theft.

I wrote to the Asst Attny Gen of AZ last night and in order to make it
easier for you, have posted a form letter which you may use to send in a
letter. The Attorney General sent me a notice saying that they are
investigating and that they need as much info as possible.

When you use the form letter:

REMOVE my name and e-mail address from the top.

ADD your book order and amount and check date if you have it.

ADD the current date


I really bear BK no ill will: just want my books or my money returned.



Arizona Office of Consumer Affairs
Assistant Attorney General's Office
Consumer Protection Division
400 W. Congress, South Bldg. #315
Tucson, AZ 85701


Re:Non-receipt of pre-paid book order from BK

Dear Sirs:

I wish to register a formal complaint against BK, who has received
and cashed my checks for the following books and has not sent them to me:

  _____  copies of  Sincere's Sewing Machine History 
                       @ $24.95 
  _____  copies of Sincere's Sewing Machine Service Manual 
                      @ $24.95 
  _____  copies of Sincere's ZigZag Sewing Machine Service Manual 
 _____   shipping charge

                   @ $24.95
 _____  Special Offer - Set of 3  [1 of each title]
                         @ $69.95  no shipping charges

 _____  total

My check(s) was written on ________________.

Ms. K advertised the books in 1996 on an antique sewing machine
collectors list on the net.  I understand that she collected thousands of
dollars and did not pay the printer to obtain the books.  All the while, she
continued to indicate over the newsgroup that the printer delayed the
process and was promising that the books would be out very soon.

Please advise me if you need additional information.


Date: Tue, 19 Aug 1997 22:04:39 -0400
Subject: BK / Arizona Attorney General

Hello Everyone,

It's been a while since I have e-mailed the list but I am still here just
busy on other projects.  

I sent a letter to the Arizona Attorney General's office about the situation
with the Sincere Books thru Ms K.  I got a nice letter in the mail from a
Ms. Cynthia Francis.  She thanks me for the info I sent here and says that
they are looking into the matter.

She says the case number is:  CIC 97-14421 BK

Hopefully we will hear some good news in the future.  I perfer to have the
books but if that is not possible I just want the money back.

Have a good day... David 
Date: Tue, 19 Aug 1997 18:58:18 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 8/10/97

Over the past weekend I picked up a treadle machine in a wonderful oak
cabinet for $20.  The name of the machine is "Delight".  I know this is
the Featherweight list, but I'm hoping someone can direct me to a source
for information on this machine.  It came with about 20 attachments in a
neat little wooden case that kind of foldout like a W and then flat with a
sawtooth shaped top.  Thanks in advance.  (If you'd prefer not to clutter
up the list with a non-FW reply you can e-mail me  Thanks in advance.  Sally 
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 1997 01:31:56 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Read the classified with a crystal ball

I doubt is anyone reads the classifeds any more than me, but I have decided
that I will need to start reading it with a crystal ball or a 1-900-phychic.
 People do not always say what they mean in the ads.  Only with careful
questions and listening  can you read between the lines.  My case in point is
this rather long story.

I got a new machine today.  About three weeks ago I called about a Singer in
Cabinet for 25 and "in pieces".  The woman had someone else coming for it and
it sounded like another cabinet from the 40's, the ones I call spider legs.  

Well she called yesterday and said that the other woman had not gotten it.
She has said for three weeks the other person had called several time but not
come to see it. 
I ask for an idea about the machine and got the usual....belonged to her
daughter's mother-in-law who lived to be 90.  Like that would date the
machine.  Then she told me it was in three pieces; cabinet, base and
head......that is not possible for a spider legs, as the base would be legs
and they are incoporated into the cabinet.  She gave me the serial # and it
was 1913 to 1916 as she could not see the numbers well.  Asked about deco and
she describe a red eye.....NOW she has my full attention.  Asked about the
wiring and she said, " what wiring, it is a tredle"!!!!!!!  She was so sorry
it was flattened and  I honestly think that I could have talked her into
lower amount.  She promised not to touch up or clean it.  

I got there and it was a oak 6 drawer 128 red eye stuffed with goodies like a
stocking darner, mop buttons, nedddle case, needle packs, an unusual
screwdriver/hammer tool and salve cans......for $25.  Lovely elderly couple.
 Half of the cabinet was perfect and the other half was ruined.  Drawers were
fine.  This has set in a garage waiting for them to do "who knows what" with.
 Base is one of the pretty tredles with the brass Singer logo...I think.  And
it has been advertised in the paper for 4 weeks and everyone thinking it was
a spider leg cabinet.  When you called her description was so off base that
even I had thought the same thing.  

I plan to use it and another cabinet (no base) to make a whole one.  The
other one was given to me.  The base was used for a table.  No machine head
in it...I opened it and there was a 66 Egyptain (1902).  She did not know it
had a machine in it.  She paid 50 just to get the base.  I was apprasing some
antiques and she was tossing it.  So I asked for it.  Both are oak and where
one is damaged the other is not.  So the machine goddess is smiling on me

Blessed Be
Date: Tue, 19 Aug 1997 22:37:10 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: sightingse

Seen at Main St. Antiques, 107 E Main St, Richardson, TX (972-644-1558):  1) treadle head w/ nice decals, no brand name visible. $25   2) Singer treadle 15K w/ bird decal in plain parlor cabinet.  Good condition.  Attachments in box. $115.  I wish it would fit on the airplane w/ me. : )

Date: Wed, 20 Aug 1997 03:04:39 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Need help!

Hi Feathers!
I recently acquired a 15-30, a poor baby that had been neglected (a trade for
2 boxes of Girl Scout cookies!).  One of the pieces thrown in with this
machine is a bobbin case that doesn't go to the machine.  It looks like a
near mirror-image of the one that does fit.  Inside the case is the part no.
Simanco 125291.  Does anyone know what machine this will fit?   I sure would
love to reunite this case with it's machine.  
Susan B 
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 1997 10:14:08 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 8/14/97

In a message dated 97-08-19 19:47:12 EDT, you write:
>>we found and bought an old Minnesota sewing machine for $25.  It is in
 excellent condition (even works too!) >>

I just purchased a Minnesota  "Model A" in an oak Parlor cabinet.  Have not
been able to find any information on these machines.  I do have a repoduction
of a 1902 Sears, Roebuck & Co. catalogue and they show several Burdick
machines and then list the Minnesota treadles as the High Grade machines,
also in parlor cabinets.
I am planning on cleaning my Minnesota up and leaving at our vacation home in
northern michigan in case I forget to pack my FW.

I have heard from Sandra in Saint John, she has a Minnesota, Model S.  Joanne
in WA reports that she has a Model C.  Neither of them have any information
on these machines either.......Big puzzle!!!!!!.  

I am so glad you are getting better and we can all stop having withdrawals
without the list.  This is a great list and you do a wonderful job.  

Subject: RE: FW Fanatics 8/12 & 8/13/97
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 1997 10:20:53 -0500

Frank Smith at the Arlington, TX Sewing Machine Museum knows of a 1940's  
Kenmore (made by White) for sale.  He told me it has a dark brown matte  
finish, it is a hexagon shaped machine, model number 177 in a cabinet.   
I did not see it and am not in the market but if anyone is interested  
you can reach Frank at (817)275-0971. 
Subject: RE: FW Fanatics 8/12 & 8/13/97
Date: Tue, 19 Aug 1997 18:40:21 -0500

Hi all, 
I have been lurking for about 3 weeks and enjoyed every minute.   
Personalities really seem to come out via e-mail.  Sorry for the long  
message but I feel I need to provide some background info.

Today I had an experience that I am sure only newcomers go through.  A   
couple of months back I found a 301A in cabinet, with manual, 2 button  
holers -one in the red leather like case, one in the pink plastic case,  
all the feet in the original box, screwdrivers and various other little  
tools.  All for $25.00.  Not knowing a thing about sewing machines, but  
knowing that this machine did more than my current one, I asked if it  
worked, they said yes I brought it home.  Plugged it in and she just  
hummed, very quite, i fell in love.

Well when I tried to thread it I discovered the BC base was broken, so I  
have been on a journey to get that fixed and along the way I have meet  
some great people, learned about this digest and  lots of wonderful  
things about older sewing machines.  ONE thing I did not learn to do was  
to RECORD MY MACHINES SERIAL NUMBER somewhere safe at home. This way you  
can always be sure which machine is yours.

I turned my machine in to have the BC base problem verified and when I  
went to pick it up I could almost swear it was not my machine being  
returned. Usually I am a very trusting sole, but if I had only recorded  
the serial number I could have saved myself, my husband, my mother and a  
new FW friend a lot of grief. I am (almost) sure now the machine I got  
back is my machine. I never really looked at it in great detail, but  
since I did not record the serial number I just could not say for  
certain the machine was mine.  I could have been positive if I had  
recorded the serial number.

A word to the newcomers, write that serial number down, NOW, if your  
haven't already. I wish I had.

Promise shorter messages in future.
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 1997 13:54:09 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: New Machine!

	I bought my first sewing machine yesterday! Alright, those of you
who know me know that I already have a *few* sewing machines, but this is
the first one that would be worthy enough that even Graham would look
	I saw an early style Beckwith at the Baltimore Antique Show that I
petted til the dealer thought I was weird. He had photocopies of
the Beckwith's from Carter Bay's book along with the price guide. I went
home and called my mentor, Zach Zacharias, who I had hoped would either
talk me into or talk me out of spending the next three months mortgage
payments. Thankfully, he talked me out of it. 
	Turns out this is the second time I've seen a dealer with pages
from Carter Bays's book who based their price soley on it, and was way,
way, way out of line. A call from Zach to Graham confirmed this. Thanks
so much Graham!
  	Then yesterday I went into an antique store that was holding a
Singer sign for me, and the guy starts talking about the little British
machine in a wood box that he hadn't decided what he wanted to do with
yet. He pulled it out, and what do you know! Another Beckwith! Two in one
week. And this one is the less common transition model, with the box,
neato clamp, seam guide and hemming attachment. It is in great shape, even
has the needle and tension parts. And I paid almost a third of what the
other guy wanted. Which, according to my husband still puts me in the
doghouse, but I am truely excited to know that these great machines are
still out there, you just have to keep searching!

On cloud nine until the bank statement comes,
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 1997 14:14:07 -0500
Subject: Ann's Pfaff machine, s/n 740044

Terri  wrote:
> ISMACS newsletter has a list of years and serial number ranges...

Found it (of course -- as soon as I quit looking!) -- your machine was
made in 1905!

Date: Wed, 20 Aug 1997 17:17:04 -0400
Subject: FW Fanatics 8/15 & 8/16/97

To Patty
Re: Singer 201 model
This a a great machine.  Mine sews a better straight stitch than my Berni 
1230.  The cabinet sounds wonderful.  If it's within your budget by all
means do not pass this one by.
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 1997 14:45:49 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: looking for parts

Hi Feathers,
I aquired a 401 while on my 20 year high school reunion
trip to IL. I am looking for the electical cord/foot
control. Also the manual or copy and the discs to fit.
Anybody out there in feather land have any of these for
sale or trade?

I also would like to find a manual or copy for a White
Rotary USA patent 1900-1913.
TIA for all responses.
Subject: Model 237
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 1997 17:56:10 -0400

Well, today took a quick run through an antique mall on my lunch time
(interesting to note that many of the Feathers do the same thing), and saw
a machine in a portable case that I believe said 237 on it.  I looked in
Captain Dick's field guide and didn't find it.  The machine was tan, and
the case was also tan, leather-like cover.  Can anyone tell me about this
machine?  Captain Dick?  It is a good machine, comparable to the 201s or
others that are highly thought of?  It appeared to be in good condition.

Thanks for any info.
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 1997 16:29:17 -0700
Subject: Tray

Hi All. We have a tray that is made just like the FW tray in older model
cases, But it is about an eighth inch larger, just enough that it does
not fit in a FW case. It is green in color. Does anyone know what this
tray came with?     Jack
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 1997 22:03:54 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: New to list intro

I am new to the list and I sure hope this is getting where it is supposed
to. I do not yet have a featherweight, but I certainly plan to find one
some day. I do seem to accumulate sewing machines, though. I have an old,
cast iron sort of machine probably from the '30s or '40s called a Normac,
which was made locally -- in nearby Brantford, Ontario. I am in Hamilton,
Ontario. I also have an old vibrating shuttle Vickers in wonderful
condition and I have the manual but I don't know much about it at all. I
just got my first Singer last week -- a 99K and it sure is a nice looking
little machine. I also have a few other more modern machines, and I am on
the lookout for a featherweight.

If anyone knows anything about the Vickers, I sure would like to hear.
Also, I have heard mention of Captain Dick's field guide for old machines
(or is it just old Singers?). Can someone tell me about that? And also,
how would I go about getting a manual for the 99K?

All these questions.... Maybe one day I will be able to help someone as

Still just feeling my way along and learning little by little.

Date: Tue, 19 Aug 1997 22:16:46 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Cream Polish

 This weekend I was shown some wonderful stuff.  Called OZ Cream Polish.
 Makes your machine shine where it was dull and doesnt leave a greasy film
after you polish it.  I'm new to all this, so this may be a product you all
know of.
When hearing about this I also picked up a beautiful 201 in a cherry cabinet.
 I'm very happy with my find!  It is suppose to be a 1938, my FW also is a
Hope your feeling much better Sue!
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 1997 23:11:55 -0400
Subject: Oops!

Oops, I didn't mean to imply in my previous message that the Beckwith was
made in Britain, just that the guy I bought it from thought this, because of
a London stamp on it. The Bays book says NY, and the box has a Broadway

By the way, I never properly thanked everyone who was able to make it to my
house in July. I had a fantastic time, and I'm glad so many of you have sent
me cards and e-mails to let me know that you did too. And special thanks to
Marie for the "hostess gift" of a Singer brochure I had never seen before,
be assured it has a good home. I had fully intended to take photos  of
everyone and everything and put them on my web page, but after everyone left
I noticed on the table the box of film that I hadn't even loaded in the
camera. It went by so quick. If anyone is considering having a Featherweight
get-together in their area, just do it! Even if it's a small group, you'll
have a great time, and you will learn so much.

Happy Featherweighting!
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 1997 23:55:38 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: FW - small problem

       I'm new to quilting & FW's. I recently went crazy and started buying
every FW I could find, I also found a Sewhandy. I now have 5 machines, 1
centenial, 1 tan,  & 2 others. The reason for my posting here today is one of
my FW's skipps a stich about 
every inch or so. Can anyone help me with this problem?

       I look forward to reading the FWFanatics every day, I have learned so
much from it.

              Thanks in advance. Dick
Subject: Looking to find one!
Date: Tue, 19 Aug 1997 22:26:43 -0400

I have been looking to find a featherweight sewing machine for some time. 
I understand that they are very expensive in some areas of the country.  I
didn't realize that there were so many kinds.  Do you know where I could
buy one at a fair and reasonable price?  I would like to have something I
could take with me on trips and also to quilting class.  Thanks so much. 
Subject: Cabinets
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 1997 06:33:09 -0400

I recently was able to get a copy of the 1953 Singer Teacher's Manual
(and if any of you ever have a chance to get ANY Teacher's Manual, I
highly recommend it - there is SO much great info in them!) and it
answered a question I had had about one of my cabinets - and thought
maybe you'd also enjoy hearing the story. Strangely enough in this
manual, they still emphasized treadle sewing machines, but then near
the end of the book, talked about: 

"the ever increasing demand for more efficient training in Home
Economics prompted the making of the 'Student' Model - an electric
machine especially designed to fill the classroom needs of teachers
and students. Since an electric machine can do three times the amount
of work of a treadle machine in a given length of time with much less
effort, and is the type used in the progressive homes of the country,
it is the logical machine to teach the growing girl to use. For this
is the type of machine she will be using later on in life." 

The part that interested me particularly was the drawings of the two
cabinets available for use with these machines (cabinet 401 and 402)
which look like the top of a treadle stand, only have wooden legs
(which they say could be any length desired - I gather for different
ages of students). The one like mine (model 402) has an opening on
one side rather than drawers and I wondered why - turns out the 401
has drawers only "for schools that are equipped with lockers" while
the 402 has a large open compartment to be used for books "rather
than have these articles piled on the machine or left on the floor
during the sewing class." I know all this is not that important, but
I did find it interesting, so thought I'd pass it along in case any
others had the same question! Talk with you again soon. Sue
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 1997 08:25:51 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: NYS Fair

  HI all!  I am on my way to the Great New York State Fair!  I work  Pfaff
dealer and we have a booth in the Center of Progress Building.  I would love
to meet any fellow FWFanatics.  Please stop and say "HI".  Also, I will have
a featherweight for sale and a buttonholer as well as an oil can.  Ask for
                            Regards,  Laura
Subject: FW Fanatics 8/10/97
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 1997 11:15:00 -0640

Hi Folks,
Sue I'm glad you're up and feeling better, you do such a nice job on
this newsletter, I hope you know how much we appreciate your hard work!
I ran across 2 portable Singers in wood dome shaped carrying cases at
Savers in Quincy MA. One machine was godzilla finish the other was
shiney. Both were electric. Neither machine had a model number on it.
One had forward and reverse the other seemed to have only forward (the
godzilla finish). How does one tell what model the machines are? My
other Singers have the model number printed or stamped somewhere on the
base or stitch lever. I passed on both machines as I am looking for a
working machine with a pretty display like the Spinx or corn flower
Singers. I alreay have a beautiful shiney Spartan and a FW on display
(and in use!).
Subject: FW Fanatics 8/11/97
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 1997 11:41:00 -0640

Just finished reading Bob Babnen's Web page on the restoration project
of a condition 4 FW. Wonderful reading, and the red FW is too cool! I
can't wait til he gets the decals.
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 1997 13:06:51 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: TSMs

I'm cross-posting this message to several lists because this is such an
exciting thing for some of us... well...  for those of us who love and
collect toy sewing machines.  We have been waiting for Glenda Thomas's newest
book to be released.... and it finally has!!!!!!

I've just received my copy of the new book and it is wonderful!!!!   If you
haven't already purchased or made plans to purchase this book.... you will
want it!!  Of course, I also want most of the little machines that I see on
the pages. 

I will be selling these & other books on my web page that is still under
construction.  In the meantime, you can contact me directly to purchase your
copy!!!   The price of the book is $24.95 and I will pay for postage.

Date: Thu, 21 Aug 1997 15:07:41 -0400
Subject: Blistered paint

A customer of mine has brought in a 1955 FW that has severely blistered
paint.  Apparently it was put in storage temporarily. DAMP storage.  It ran
like a charm prior to this.  There is some evidence of rust around the
bobbin and other metal parts.  The edge of the bed is worn down to silver
metal underneath.  It's very sad.  Smells extremely musty too.  This is a
problem beyond the touch-up Johnson-Srebro mentions in the book.  Does
anyone have any suggestions?

Thanks for any help,

Subject: Wiring - 221-K4
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 1997 17:23:18 -0400

Does anyone have a wiring diagram for a 221 - K4?  I'm repairing one for a
friend.  This is the model with the switch up on the light.  The motor,
which is a model # CAK6.-7, has a ground wire which plugs into a hole in
the lower housing screw and runs to an RF suppresser which is mounted on
the cover stud under the bed.  The motor also has vent slots on both ends
near the bottom.  

The plug and cord with the machine is not the 3 pronged or three wire type
as described by Jim from Thomaston, GA.  I suspect the original was changed
out due to the lack of three pronged receptacles in most homes when the
machine was made.  

The connection socket on the machine is the same as all the other 221's
I've seen.  The controllers from other machines work on this one.  But
there is a good deal of additional wiring in the K4.  Some of these wires
are bare and I'm not sure whether they are supposed to be.  If any one has
a service manual or wiring diagram for this machine, I will gladly pay for

Incidentally,  I think I've got a good method for resurfacing the
commutators on these  motors without removing the armatures from the field
magnets and windings. 

Date: Thu, 21 Aug 1997 20:02:11 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: My new addition!

Hello FWFs,
Stopped into my fav shop last nite just to browse. In a corner of one of  the
rooms, what did I see?--a 128 in nice shape, complete with manual, feet,
needles(look like original issue). Centennial logo(my first). And in another
case which was included was the original buttonholer. How much, you ask ,did
this little gem cost? $12.00!!!
Had to share with people who understand. Anna
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 1997 21:32:31 -0400
Subject: PA National Quilt Show

Hi All!

Wondering if any FWFs will be attending the PA National Quilt Show in
Fort Washington on Saturday September 13th?  I'll be going down on a bus
with my quilt guild on that day and would love to meet up with any fellow
FWFs that will be there on that day too.  Thought  we could meet at noon
for a quick bite (don't want to miss too much of the show) and exchange
some sm stories face to face for a change.  Maybe someone who is familiar
with the layout of the show can suggest a meeting place. 

In case I missed it and someone else has already suggested this and has a
meeting place and time set up already, please post it again and let's all
get together and make what should be a fun show even better!

Looking forward to meeting you all,
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 1997 21:47:48 -0400
Subject: "Famous Buttonhole Worker"

Hi All!

I'm sending this out to both the FWF and ISMACS lists:

First of all, to Sue and Graham, thank you for all your great work on
these thoroughly enjoyable and very informative digests.  I hope you are
both feeling well now.  (Graham, I won't bug you about those (awful)
cigarettes, but I hope you are not making your precious sms "breathe"
that damaging second-hand smoke!)

Now for my question:  I picked up in a church rummage sale today a
buttonholer which I was hoping someone out there might have some
information on.  It came in a light blue plastic "quilted" case with a
snap cover and the name "Famous Buttonhole Worker" molded into the
plastic on the top of the case.  On the side of the case is stamped in
blue ink "For Use On Singer Model CC Class 15".  The buttonholer itself
is all metal with the word "Famous" stamped in script on the top.  It is
similar in construction to my old Singer buttonholer (#121795) except
that the adjustments for the width and cutting space are on the opposite
side of the buttonholer.  I'm curious about when this buttonholer was
made and about the company that made it.  Also, I have a Singer 15-30
that was converted from treadle to electric.  Will this attachment fit
that machine?  It came with the feed dog cover but no manual.  I have the
manual for my Singer buttonholer - can I assume that the directions would
correspond to this buttonholer too?  I figured it was worth 75 cents even
if it won't fit any of my machines!

TIA for all your help.
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 1997 10:24:37 -0700
Subject: Double needle Singer

Hello, everyone:

I'm trying very hard not to get too involved in collecting sms (though
you'll notice that I lurk on this list and read all the posts avidly!),
however, I did spot (but didn't buy) a machine I have never seen before
at an antique shop (MoonShadows) in Healdsburg, CA.  Can someone out
there in ether-land help me identify it?

It was a Singer, black, in a stand that looked like a treadle that had
been converted to electricity.  Larger than usual.  (My mom has a 221,
and I'd say this one I saw was at least half again as big.) The odd
thing about it was that it was a double needle machine.  Two upside-down
U-shaped thread holders (3" - 4" high) that one tilted to the right to
put on the spool.  Two tension disks, two holes in the arm that moves up
and down (sorry for that technical term), and, of course, two needles. 
I'm not entirely sure the machine was original to the
treadle/electrified base because though it fit quite nicely front to
back, there was a 5" - 6" open space to the left of the machine.  The id
number on the front plate read: 72W12.  I'm thinking that it was an
industrial model of some sort, but really have no idea and am curious to

In another shop just up the street, there was a lovely old Singer in a
blond wood cabinet.  Rounded corners, very Deco looking.  Small drawer
on the left and a rounded door that opened on the right to reveal three
drawers.  I saw one of those small green Singer oil cans that I've read
about, also a green Singer box full of accessories.  I did not,
unfortunately, write down the id number.  But, boy, could I feel the tug
of the collector there!  LOL  No room, no room, no room... that's what I
kept chanting to myself. 

Hope someone out there can help identify that double needle mystery
machine for me.  And thanks for so much wonderful if *vicarious* (for
me) collecting!

Subject: German 201 treadle
Date: Fri, 22 Aug 1997 02:01:32 -0400

 Hi all! Wondering if anyone could give a little info (like approx. manufacture date, for example) on this machine. It is a German-made Singer 201 treadle, in a simple drawing-room cabinet. It is a black head with simple art-decoish squared scrollwork around the bead and the usual gold "SINGER" on the arm. There is an "egyption" scroll faceplate, and plain black backplate, with what appears to be a bracket for a removable light. Instead of a brass medallion, there is an oval gold decal which says "SINGER N=C4HMASCHINEN FABRIK WITTENBERGE" and has the Singer "S" with "SINGER N=C4HMASCHINEN SINGER" on it. The serial number is "C3540085". Singer first told me that I was wrong and the serial no. started with a "G" and that it was a different model. So I asked her 
what is the initial letter for a German machine, and she came back and told me that if it is a "C" then it is German, and they have no info. Oh, and the tension dial looks different than anything I have seen. It is covered, like a numbered dial, but has a tiny slot in the top with an indicator that moves back and forth according to the tension. Alongside the slot are index marks, with a "+" at one end and a "-" at the other. And of course, it has the big spoked handwheel, just like our other treadles.

And there is a mechanical problem with this one. At first, she was kind of "tight". So I cleaned and oiled and lubed her all up, and she spun like a top, for about five minutes, when she jammed solid. I finally managed to free her (lots of WD-40, Singer oil, and rocking back and forth) but now she's "tight" again. Is perhaps one of the main bearings seized and I am looking at major dissassembly? I really would love to get her running right, smooth rotary action seems ideally suited for a treadle. (Our gear-drive electric 201 really flies, and our 128 treadle will literally go faster than you can pedal it. A good-running 201 treadle must be a dream to sew on.)

Thanks all,

Date: Fri, 22 Aug 1997 15:11:50 -0400
Subject: Women's Institute Books

This may be a little off the sewing machine subject, but I need to ask.  Is there anyone out there who has any of the Women's Institute of Domestic Arts & Sciences,(Scranton, PA.) books that you would be willing to sell. I'm interested in the ones related to sewing (not cooking).  Please e-mail me privately with the name of the book and price.  TIA

Date: Fri, 22 Aug 1997 16:18:04 -0500
Subject: lost address

To:  Maria  

My email base got wiped out, could you please resend email address. And
hope that you have rec'vd note by now.

Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 8/14/97
Date: Sat, 23 Aug 1997 00:40:53 +0100

To Carol

Surely a man should be allowed a little dignity and privacy as he staggers
home in the early hours reeking from booze.

Seriously, drink is the one thing I have had to give up. As for the patch,
they are great especially when conbined with that nicotine chewing gum and
a couple of packs of non-filters each day.

Really seriously, thanks fo the good wishes, yes health seems to be
improving every day.

To J G 

Needle you need for the Seidel and Naumann is a 15 x 10

Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 8/11/97
Date: Sat, 23 Aug 1997 00:40:20 +0100

To Shanon

Welcome to the site and the digest -- and thanks for the kind words

To Susan re throat plate

Just the two screws and a gentle tap from beneath -- I use a thin strip of
aluminium and tap it with a tack hammer.

To Terri J re Florence belt

Go to Wally World and find a gents pants plain belt the right width --
gonna be a quarter of the price you'd pay at a leather specialist.

Authentic join would be to butt the ends together and sew with an x form
about half inch from the ends. You'll need a very strong thread. Or you can
cheat and get about a two inch overlap and shave each end down to nothing
and stick together with contact adhesive.

The Florence and the Wheeler and Wilsons must use a curved needle as the
needle arm, in each case moved in an arc rather than simply up and down

Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 8/10/97
Date: Sat, 23 Aug 1997 00:40:04 +0100

To Joanne re Minnesota

Sears Roebuck commissioned these machines from many different makers and,
having big-buying clout were able to get them with their own brand name .

To Louise re Eldredge

Eldredge merged his own and the June Company into National in 1890. There
were at least four different cabinets in the 1880 period.

To Terri J re collection.

The Wheeler and Wilson can be dated if it is early enough (the patent dates
mean nothing, they were still being used in 1905). Try me with the serial
number s--  on the stitch plate. Also important is the shape of the bed --
virtually no central waisting, pronounced waisting or raised cover (look in
Bays book and you'll see what I mean.

The Willcox and Gibbs can be dated accurately -- the serial number is on
the cast body, under the stitch plate, near the stitch adjusting lever.

The Florence was available so that it could be used conventionally of with
the cloth moving from left to right (as in the Wheeler and Wilson machines.
Serial number please and I might be able to date it.

The Weeds I cannot date -- again the patent dates are no help and only show
when the machine could have been first produced. A good example of this is
Willcox and Gibbs who in 1950 were still stamping 1875 patent dates on some
stitch plates.

You ask which is the most collectable. Assuming equal condition (which I
doubt) I'd put them in the order: Florence, Wheeler and Wilson, Willcox and
Gibbs, Singer and then the Weeds a poor last.

If the Wheeler and Wiolson had been hand crank it would jump over the
Florence. And if the Florence was hand crank it would only be the second
one known.

Handbooks available for all of them except the Weeds.

Date: Fri, 22 Aug 1997 20:19:08 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 8/15 & 8/16/97

I am looking to buy a Featherweight. I live in the Phila. area.

Date: Fri, 22 Aug 1997 23:50:47 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Singer on Wood Base

Hi Feathers,
	I just wanted to tell you that my DH scanned the picture on page 146 of
Sewing Tools and Trinkets to Graham. I think Sue wanted to know more about
the Singer on the wood base. Graham said it is not a Singer, but rather  The
Little Comfort on page 181 of Glenda Thomas book, made by Foley and Williams.
Also please note that the Number 5 machine is all wrong, too. Graham says it
is 30's or reproduction 80's, but not 1950. I hope this helps. I said I would
post so Graham can get caught up on other messages. Thanks Graham for all
your help. Also thanks          
Sue for your help and hope you feel better, too.
	While I am here, I must share the find at the local flea market, a funny
shaped case. As I reached for the case, the gentleman said, "That's a sewing
machine". Well DUH. I know what a 301 case looks like. I opened it up and
sure enough it was a 301 tan long bed. I said I would take it for $40. I got
it home and it purrs. Oh, I will soon have another FW. I got an e-mail from
an ebay person who knew I had bid on another FW. She had a FW for sale and
did I want it? Of course, I want it. It will be in the mail soon. I will tell
you more about it when it arrives. Thanks for listening.
Date: Sat, 23 Aug 1997 09:49:31 -0400
Subject: DIGEST

Hello FW's.  Haven't posted for a while, but still enjoy reading about
other people finding good machines.  I haven't received a digest for a
few days(actually Wednesday was the last one and I didn't get to read
it as it disappeared on me before I could open it).  I'm sending this
message in hopes it gets out and we don't have a problem with our server
though I am still getting ISMACS every day.  I saw a treadle/machine 
last weekend named Danzer.  The machine wasn't very ornate, but looked
interesting as the foot lever was on the front of the arm, and when 
raising it, you could also turn the foot away from the needle.  The
cabinet was pretty nice with 2 drawers on the left side that should have
had a 'coffin' type cover that was missing.  I've never heard of a 
Danzer.  Also say a Montgomery Ward treadle that was in pretty good 
condition, decals very colorful.  

Subject: help find info.
Date: Sat, 23 Aug 1997 08:26:55 -0600 (MDT)  

Hi all,

I recently visited my grandmother and discovered an antique sewing
machine stored away.

I would like to find out more about this machine.

It's not an electric.  It has a hand-crank on the side.


Model No: 705
Serial:	  1764577

The logo is displayed on a circular brass plate.
There is another rectangular brass plate under that. (I can't
remember what it sayed...had some numbers I believe)

It comes with a wooden lift-removable case that has NAUMANN writen
on it in large letters.

The only history I can provide, is that of my grandmother's family.
They were Bulgarian.  The machine was owned by "at least" my
grandmother's mother.

Any help appreciated.

Subject: One that got away
Date: Sat, 23 Aug 1997 08:28:58 -0700


HI, all;

I know those who have gotten the message will get tired of hearing
about the new address thing, but I am still not getting FW or ISMACS
except by forwarding.  This morning I tried signing up in each as a
new subscription.  See how that takes.  My forwarding will end soon.

Had a great one get away yesterday.  Very nobly (I thought) I did not
go hunting yesterday morning but stayed home and worked on my
challenge quilt.  A friend called about 10:30 and asked if I was
interested in a small Singer portable in a black box for $45?.  I
tore out to the address he gave me, which was close, but got there as
a lady was paying for an absolutely gorgeous post war FW in a perfect
case, with all the goodies.  Ah, well.   I came home and sewed some
more and told myself she probably only had that one, while I have
two.  Would have been the best sale bargain of my career, though.

The quilt goes, but slowly.  Since I'm doing an old fashioned quilt,
I'm doing it the old fashioned way... cut all the tiny pieces and
then sew them together.  No sewing strips and roller cutting them for
speedy assembly.  An experience, but never again!

I have a sad story of an orphan sewing machine that can't find a
home.  I have been trying to place a Model 1200/201 for a friend who
moved ot a small apartment and didn't have room for it.  (You could
say it lost it's job to downsizing).   Have actually sold it twice to
far out of towners, but in both cases the shipping/transport of a
machine in a stand has proven more than they can contend with, and
the deals have fallen through.  It still resides in my furnace room,
thinking that no one will ever love it again.  At one point, thinking
it was sold, I went ahead and paid my friend for it.  Now I'm
actually offerring it at a loss, but would love to see it go to a
really deserving home.  It's a fabulous 201, but I have 4 and it's in
my way.  If anyone in the local pick-up area has wanted a 201, please
adopt this one!

Captain Dick
Date: Sat, 23 Aug 1997 14:36:23 -0700
Subject: Sewing machine, MQ

My DH just came home from a rummage sale and brought with him a Singer
Model 66 w/attachments and with the Black buttonholer.  The machine
needs either a case or a cabinet.  The machine is quite dusty and
probably needs oiling but all the gears do move.  It is a Centennial
model and hardly any scratches on it.  He paid $20.00 for the whole
works.  He complains about my sewing machines, since I now have 9
machines and 2 sergers, but he is the one who brought this one home.  It
has a very big space in the opening between the needle and the arm, so I
am hoping to use it for machine quilting.

Subject: Need part
Date: Sat, 23 Aug 1997 16:56:09 -0400

Hope someone out there with parts can help me.  My husband was going to try
to make some sort of knee control for the Singer 99 we bought at a flea
market, but I told him we might be able to find one on here and he said,
"Go for it.  A part that originally was made for the machine would be
better to keep the machine authentic, and would look and work better." 

So if any of you collectors has this part, please email me with a price. 
Don't know if it matters, but my 99 is a portable in a bentwood case, made
in Oct. 1925.  Hope someone can help me.

Date: Sat, 23 Aug 1997 19:18:18 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Improved Merrill

Hi FWF'ers,

I saw a treadle at the antique store called an "Improved Merrill".  Has
anyone heard of this make before?  The cabinet is different.  Instead of
being the rectangle shape it is oval.  The sides are rounded instead of
square.  The drawers handles are the wooded cup type and instead of sitting
up and down, they are set in sideways.
The head reminds me of the Damascus head.  The tension is on the fact plate
just the same.

Any information would be appreciated.

Thank you.  P.S.  I'm having a ball cleaning up the 8 new ones and learning
about them!

Date: Sat, 23 Aug 1997 19:02:22 -0400
Subject: Featherweight tables

Hello, Feathers!
My mother is going to an auction for me next week--the advertisement for
it lists 2 Featherweights, and a Featherweight table. I'm not sure how
much I should tell her to bid on the table...any suggestions? What is
the maximum going rate for a good condition table?
Please reply
(Still shopping for a Featherweight since Big Sister claimed Mom's!)

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