Featherweight Fanatics Archives

July 1997

Sunday, July 20 - Saturday, July 26

Date: Sun, 20 Jul 1997 01:34:38 -0400
Subject: great new finds!

Hi all!

Well today was a banner day for me! I went to visit my friendly dealers
this morning and they had a mother load for me! I came home with a
Caseige "Our Pet" in wonderful cosmetic condition but that the 2
horizontal sewing bars for making the parts move are missing. A shame as
cosmetically she is an very nice 7 at least . Decals strong and bright,
black paint has great lustre to it.Metal parts dull but I think I'll
leave it alone as the sewing plate doesn't look as though it would ever
come up like new again. Sometimes they look better left alone I think.
As she is from the late 20's she has a right to look a little old.
Also they had for me a Singer Model 20 from 30's. Intact, no missing
parts thankfully. I seemed to keep finding these missing one thing or
another. Great strong gold decals but metal needs shining as usual. C9 I
believe once I work on the metal parts. They have that dull film on them
now. Otherwise all black paint is glossy without a ding or noticible
scratch but for where the clamp would scrape on the base.Also an old
Singer oil bottle with cork and oil, paper label intact and it holds 3
oz. of oil. Plus a WGs black attachments box full of attachments. What a
great day! I don't know what I paid for the individual pieces, All
together he charged me only $125.00 for everything! Wish this could
happen more often. I'll post photos of these to my site in the near
Have a wonderful weekend!

Date: Sun, 20 Jul 1997 06:24:39 +0000
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 7/14/97

I was out and about today and saw a Singer chain stich machine, does 
not appear to have the complete case but is sitting in a wooden base
they are asking 399.  I am not able to get it at this time but as I 
had not seen one before and thought someone may be looking I thought 
I would let the group know.
Date: Sun, 20 Jul 1997 10:03:06 +0000
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 7/18/97

I'm sorry all, but I have to say this.

I have no problem with, when you see a featherweight priced at a very 
low price, grab it and pay the money as fast as possible and get out 
the door. 

I have a very serious problem with someone, on seeing this bargain, 
dickering the price in half, just because the other person doesn't 
know the machine is worth ten times what he has it priced at.

Nancy D
Date: Sat, 19 Jul 1997 18:51:37 -0500
Subject: Handcrank info?

I just posted yesterday asking about a handcrank for my
6-year-old daughter.  (She's afraid of using my electric
machines.)  Since I already have a nicely working 99 in
the bentwood case, I am wondering if I could just add a
handcrank to that for her?  If so, where do I find a
handcrank to buy?  It wouldn't do any harm to the machine,
would it?  I'd want to take it off again when she finally
decides she can handle the speed of electricity.....

Also, I did a net search and found a Branum's Sewing Center
that sells model 25 (electrified) and model 30 (handcrank)
Singers for $149.  Are these actually old machines, or are
they newly manufactured ones???  If new, how do they compare
to the old ones?

(For anyone who wants to duplicate the search, I went to
http://www.metacrawler.com  and searched on "Singer handcrank sewing machine".)

Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 7/17/97
Date:	Sat, 19 Jul 1997 21:56:52 +0100

To Priscilla

Your Underwood typewriter dates from the early 1930s

Date: Sun, 20 Jul 1997 12:29:56 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Recent finds

At a garage sale this week I came across several Greist feet (ruffler, narrow
hemmer and I don't know what else) that probably came from a puzzle box.
 After I sort through them, I'll offer them for sale/trade.

At the same sale, I came across the February 1966 issue of _Consumer Reports_
that reviews, you guessed it, sewing machines!  Specifically, machines for
under $150.  Reviewed were the Singer 337K3, Singer 221K7, Pfaff 80, Singer
285K, Brother 141, Wizard 3KC8846, Brother 1351, New Home Streamliner 270,
Wizard 3KC847, Sewmor 870, Riccar 452A and several Sears Kenmore, Wards
Signatures and Penneys models, 17 machines in all.  The review covers 6
pages, complete with 6 photographs, and includes a page of electrical hazards
in the foot controls (none of the Singers were affected).  

The Singer 221K7 was priced at $149.95 and the review includes "Small, very
light (18 lbs) straight stitch machine whose miniaturization makes it less
well suited to sewing bulky items than other machines tested."

The articles also mentions a _Consumers Reports_ review in the March 1963
issue that reviewed "elaborate zigzag machines equipped to do intricate
decorative stitching patterns and embroidery by means of cam controls.
 Intended for the really ambitious home seamstress, these cam-controlled
machines had some worthy representatives in CU's lab tests.  But most of the
good ones ran around $300 and more."  I will check with the local library
this week and see if they have this issue on microfiche.  If not, I'll write
_Consumers Reports_ and see if a copy of the article is still available in

BTW, this issue reviews the Dodge Coronet, Chevrolet Chevelle, Pontiac
Tempest, Rambler Classic and Ford Fairlane (prices range from $2,460 to
$2,620) and excerpts from Ralph Nader's "Unsafe at Any Speed."  Also includes
portable electric drills, 11-inch color TV sets, eggs, and dishwasher
detergents.    Top-rated movies include "My Fair Lady," "Sound of Music," and
"That Darn Cat."

Date: Sat, 19 Jul 1997 23:02:39 -0500
Subject: identifying singer machine

I have a singer machine Serial# AJ262125.  Can you tell me the date and
value of my machine?  Any other info would be appreciated.   Thanks.  Also, who can i recondition it?
The bobbin is kind of strange too>
Subject: Howe SM/Know It Alls
Date: Sun, 20 Jul 1997 05:46:41 -0400 (EDT)

	I saw two Howe treadles for the first time yesterday in an antiques 
store near here.  I copied the serial #s down on a business card, then promptly
lost the card.  I remember they were both six digit #'s like 92xxxx and 91xxxxx.
Is there a way to get an approximate manufacture date on the machines?  I 
couldn't tell whether they had bobbins (this was the worst organized antique
store I've ever been in, every time I tried to look at another part of
the machine I had to move at least two piles of junk); should they have 
bobbins or are they chain stitch machines?  I've seen lots of old 
Singers/Whites/W&G's, but never any Howe's; are they as "collectible" as, say, 
the New Family's or are they more in the class of the 66's? 
	I must look particularly gullible, since this is the n'th time I've 
run into an antique dealer who is a self-proclaimed expert on sewing 
machines.  Some of the better lines I've heard are:
	- Oh, it just needs a little oil (pointing to a siezed machine)
	- Howe was the inventor of the sewing machine.
	- This machine is a steal at $145; my mother's cousin's aunt's
	  nephew sold an old machine for $7000 (gee, Graham, I didn't
	  know you had relatives over here 8^) ).
I was wondering what sort of strategies the FWFs use to deal with these guys.
If I'm not interested in the machine, I just smile and sidle away.  However,
if I'm thinking of buying the machine, should I put on my wide-eyed innocent
look or do I pull out my copy of Cooper?  What works best for you?
Date: Sun, 20 Jul 1997 08:38:34 +0100
Subject: Fw digest

To Selma re: Boye circular case, 
I saw one of those just this weekend, had never encountered one before.
It was in an antique store in Fenton, MI.  They wanted 150 for it, I
thought it was facinating, it had quite a few bobbins but it was dark in
side, and hard to see.  I saw another  one that same day in Howell at
the quilt shop, as a decoration.  Two in one day! and I had never seen
one before.  Maybe someday, they are big though, I need to start a room
just for sewing collectibles, and another to actually sew  on all my

To Capt Dick, Can't wait to hear about your truckload, very exciting!

To Kay re: Featherweight Block, I saw a url for it, and bookmarked it,
but can't find it!  It was on one of the recent digests, of the last two
weeks or so. Hopefully someone else is better at marking their

Subject: 500a
Date: Sat, 19 Jul 1997 23:51:41 -0400

Well, went back to our local flea market today and checked out that 500a I
had seen two weekends ago.  This time, without 2 little grandchildren in
tow, I noticed top to the head was missing. I asked dealer if she happened
to have it, but she said no, she was mainly trying to get $20 for the
cabinet  and realized the SM was not complete.  So I passed on this one and
will continue to look.

I was in Gainesville,Fl at the Salvation Army Thrift Store yesterday with
DH and saw what appeared to be a very nice 301 in a blond cabinet.  Didn't
have time to check it out (seems to be the story of my life).  It was only
$40, I believe, if anyone in the area wants to go see it.    On the way
home coming through Waldo, stopped at an antique store and saw only one
item of interest to me--a small black plastic box with Singer logo on it
and words Singer in a band around edge.  It was squarish shaped and inside
had a gold plastic tray.  I didn't really think it was all that attractive,
but probably should have bought it for $6.95 as a collectible.

Date: Sun, 20 Jul 1997 12:27:23 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: 401A

Several weeks ago, I came across a 401A in a cabinet which had to come home
with me.  It didn't include much, and I've bought lots of cams and feet from
the FW for Sale listing.  

I've found cams 1-22, and know there's a cam 23.  But are there any higher
numbered cams that fit the Slant-O-Matic series?

I also bought a 401 instruction manual, but was there a separate manual for
the 401A?  The 401 manual doesn't include the "built-in" stitches on the
401A.  A call to Singer's 800# generated the info that I need instruction
manual #505257-401.  The closest Singer dealer is over an hour away and said
the manual is still in print, has to be special ordered and is $17.50
prepaid. I hate to order the manual and then find out it's a 401 manual and I
already have it.  

Singer also told me that the manual will tell me everything that originally
came with the machine so I can try ordering them.  The 401 manual doesn't
give parts numbers, just names and you have to read the whole book to find
the info.  

I did find out that the 401 was made from 1958-1961 and the 401A from 1959 to
1961.  If anyone has any more info on the 401A, I'd love to hear it.  I seem
to be collecting 401A info at the moment.

Also was at the Kaleidoscope show yesterday, a large quilt show held every
other year in Toledo, Ohio.  A 221 went for $400.  And the person who told me
about it was disappointed because it sold before she got there.  I didn't get
to see it but heard it included the case and some accessories.  I don't known
what year it was.  Two months ago, one went for $450 at Stoney Ridge Auctions
and that one didn't include anything.  Just reporting on prices in my area in
case some of you are tracking them!

Good luck in the hunt!  And thanks for any 401A info/stories you might have!
 BTW, several of you sent me info on the 401A when I first found it a couple
of weeks ago.  My husband at first thought the mail was on 401K plans and was
upset at the "junk mail"!  I straightened him out.  ;>

Subject: W&G

Hi Tonie: My best guess is: your W&G is a treadle head. It mounts on a
treadle stand, and the leather belt goes around the wheel of the machine
head, down through holes in the table top, and around the fly wheel of the
treadle mechanism. I had one once, and now am left with only the big flywing
screw that holds it to the table top, and a copy of the manual. I never had
the table part. You may be able to hook it up to a motor with a belt, also.
Graham would know. If he sees your post he will let you know. And you will
get other answers to this question. Shannon 
Date: Sat, 19 Jul 1997 23:02:54 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: table for ......

Hi Ginny: Betcha anything the other table is for a Singer 301. I have a 301
(longbed) that measures 19 1/4"longx7"wide. I don't know the length of the
short bed 301, but probably 2-3" shorther. Let me know if the dimensions of
the opening match your table. Just curious. Shannon
Subject: FW Block
Date: Sun, 20 Jul 1997 10:32:29 +0100

Hi Feathers,
 Thanks to Capt. Dick & other who sent me information on the FW block (on
http://members.aol.com/ctislander) which is for sale. But if you  are a
user of The Electric Quilt there is a block about the same in the library.
(Block Library - Contemporary- scroll down to Sewing Stuff)
	Have details been issued yet for the quilt contest at the Ismac affair in
Date: Sun, 20 Jul 1997 15:58:59 -0700
Subject: Toy S. M.

Just picked up a toy SM at a yard sale,complete with box & instruction
book.The box says Stitch-Mate by White,machine just says Stitch-Mate.
It is a chain stitch & works on batterys or a plug in converter,has no
foot pedal just an on/off switch.I don't find it listed in Glenda
Thomas's book on toy SMs.Anyone have any info. on this one ?
  TIA Bob
Date: Sun, 20 Jul 1997 18:52:31 +0000
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 7/18/97

I've seen a few people asking about Singer card tables, so I put 
pictures up of my FW table, long bed 301 table, and short bed 301 
table on my web page:


I also included pictures of the cutouts and measurements for them.

Date: Sun, 20 Jul 1997 21:55:19 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 7/18/97

To Pat from Indiana - Capt. Dick sells a little "Field Guide"  Book to help
in identify Sewing machines.  Fits nicely in your purse.

To Kay - 3 M Spray adhesive was recommended to me to use for adhering the
fabric on the FW cases, both inside and out.

Date: Sun, 20 Jul 1997 19:17:28 -0700
Subject: Help on Identifying New Machine

Captain Dick, Graham, or anyone else who is knowledgable:

I just picked up a "red eye" Singer in a beautiful bentwood case. All I 
had todo to the case was use some dark Old English furniture polish on 
it..looks great.

Now according to Captain Dick's Field Guide: I have a full head, tension 
knob on the front, bobbin plate; slides to the left, bobbin round 
horizontally mounted; straight stitch only, mechanism; ? oscillating 
round bobbin/rotary round bobbin (not sure), drive type; belt motor 
driven......so what do I have? As to the serial number it is a G 
starting number. Also the motor sits in a "little pot" in the back and 
this machine doesn't look like it could have been converted from a 
treadle but again I don't know.

This is a real heavy machine and I would probably rate it a 7 as there 
is wear on the front decal and in the middle decal. The bobbin winder is 
at the left top right by the wheel.

The only thing I am missing of course the book and the wood plate that 
covers the attachment box. And there were no attachements! :(

Sorry for such a long post and thanks for any help. Maxine
Subject: Mangle - I've got one!
Date: Sun, 20 Jul 1997 22:24:29 -0400

Hi Everyone

After months of searching I finally have found and purchased a mangle.  
This is not first I've seen in my travels, but it is the best.  The first one was a medium sized sit down model for $10 (garage sale), the second was a huge stand up model about five feet long, four feet high, with a price tag of $175 (antique mall), and the third is a table top mangle in terrific condition,  works great that I picked up in a dumpy flea market yesterday, for $10, but he also threw in some vintage fabrics with it.

It is a....Horton Ironer, Model 547, 1575 Watts, 115 Volt-60 cycle....
serial number 8575, made by Horton Mfg. Co., Ft. Wayne, Indiana....

If anyone has any information about this mangle, or perhaps a manual, 
would you please contact me.....this contraption sure makes the ironing 
of those long pieces of fabric a real breeze.

Date: Sun, 20 Jul 1997 21:32:09 -0700
Subject: Mystery Table - Want to trade?

HI, FWF's,
   I have a table here that is in great shape, looks very much like the
FW table ( wood top, metalfolding card table-type legs, cut out on top
with brackets to hold a machine, etc. etc. ), except that the cutout is
too long for my FW, and too short for my 301. The space between the
brackets is 10-3/4" long X 7 3/8" wide ( as best as I could measure with
what I was using g). 
I would love to have a table for my 301A, which measures 13-1/2" long X
6-7/8" wide - or that is approx. the size opening it would take.
If anyone knows what model this table takes, I'd really appreciate you
letting me know.
And, if anyone has a table for a 301A, and would like to trade for this
one, that would be even better!
Date: Sun, 20 Jul 1997 22:45:09 -0500
Subject: Featherweight Fairy

To Olga in the Philly burbs-
Say.. ah Olga.... I think that was MY Featherweight Fariy I've been
waiting for ;-)  Seems to me I sent her my good wishes just a couple
weeks ago.  I think she really mean that white FW find for me.  Must
have taken a real bad wrong turn, as you all know, I'm in "NorDakota"

Date:	Sun, 20 Jul 1997 21:55:54 -1000
Subject: Black/Blue sewing machine parts

>Subject: Black or blued sewing machine parts
>   At our Salvation Army thrift store several months ago, I saw a model
>15 in a very 1940's cabinet that had a strange finish on the parts that
>are usually chrome--face plate, slide plate, throat plate, takeup lever.
>When I first looked at it I thought it had been in a fire and the
>chrome had been burned off, but upon closer inspection, I saw that the
>finish on these parts was a uniform bluish-black.  I can't remember if

The blue/black tone may be some kind of anti-rust protective coating on
the raw metal parts.  I'm not sure when they started using chrome plating,
but alot of old machines have nickel plated parts.  Nickel was needed
badly for the war effort to the point where 5 cent coins of the war
years were made of a silver alloy in the U.S. and either steel or brass
alloys in Canada.  I've also seen this kind of blue/black finish on the
un-nickeled parts of ruffler attachments.
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 1997 06:54:16 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 7/18/97

Hi Ginny,
It sounds as if your second table is for either a 301 or a 401.  I have one
like that for my 401 and had one that I sold 40 (Has it been that long?)
years ago along with my 301.
Hope this helps.
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 1997 09:14:27 -0400
Subject: 301 Manual

Would some kind soul out there in FeatherWeightFanatic (and 301!) Land have
either a 301 manual you would sell me or be able to make photocopies of
pages 3-17?  Either would be fine.  I lost my manual, and the pages in the
photocopy (@#%^) are MISSING!!!

Date: Mon, 21 Jul 1997 09:16:37 -0400
Subject: 301 Help

Does anyone out there happen to have a 301 manual they could either copy
pages 3 - 17 inclusive for me, or sell me the manual?  I am desperate as
mine has disappeared and my photo copy has the pages 3-17 missing!!!!  What
a bummer!

I haven't posted for awhile as i have a new job and a new address
hereshould anyone want to write to me daytime hours!  When I get more organized! I'll get back to "reading & writing
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 1997 10:03:53 EDT
Subject: FWs

I ran an ad in Sunday's classified section of the newspaper: "Wanted: Small
Singer portable sewing machine in black case or folding table" and while I only
got four calls, did find what I wanted - an AF with Egyptian faceplate.  The
last call was from a woman who has ALL three, machine, case and table!
However, she said she knew they were collectibles but would discuss with her
husband as to their worth and get back with me.  Since I had already found what
I was looking for, I'm not interested but if any feathers would like her phone
number, e-mail me.  She said a woman she worked for had no use for them so gave
the three pieces to her twenty-some years ago.
Subject: Need threading guide
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 1997 10:16:10 -0400

I'm looking for threading instructions for a singer featherweight sewing
machine.  I've used mine for years - but haven't used it for awhile, and
the thread breaks when I now try to sew with it.  I believe I'm threading
it incorrectly.  I had it serviced a few years ago, and do not think
there's anything wrong with hit.

Thanks for any help!  If you can explain to me the threading procedures - please do so (bobbin, too).

Thanks for any help!
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 1997 07:13:56 -0700
Subject: web page update

Hello Feathers, I havn't had much to share lately, but
I did want to let you all know that there is a new
layout of the 401a on my highlights page. Some great 
photos I hope you will enjoy.  
 Is there any news on a fw gathering around the SD quilt
show?  I am jealous of all those gatherings in other parts
of the country. 
Please visit my Web page at:
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 1997 10:23:26 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Featherweight block pattern

Hi Feathers,

I saw a couple of posts asking Captain Dick about a Featherweight block
pattern. I don't know if he has one too, but I have one.  See it at

I'll post this on the for sale list.

Date: Mon, 21 Jul 1997 12:44:28 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Vacation Findings

Dear FWF's:

I'm the person who planned to spend her vacation traveling to various antique
stores.  Well, it didn't turn out that way (even though I had the kit which I
made up guided by all of the recommendations from you wonderful people).  In
the first place, the cottage was located in a setting that was hard to leave
-- about 30 feet from Green Bay.  The sounds and piney fragrances were home
to me.  Also, I discovered, this being somewhat of a tourist area, the
antique dealers were crazy when they priced their items.  One man in a sewing
machine/vacuum business showed me a FW that was scratched a lot -- REALLY a
lot.  There was no case, no instruction book, no attachments - nothing but
the machine and cord -- and he was asking $425!  I told him it was overpriced
and he was very indignant; he said he could get $800 if he shipped it to
California.  I did end up buying from him, however -- just as you've all
said, it's how much one wants something.  I got a nice 301A instruction book
for $10 and a buttonholer for the same machine for $20.  (By the way, another
rave for Glenn Williams -- I bought the 301A from him and it was the one I
took with me -- finished one quilt top and started another - great machine.)

What I want to tell you all is, when I realized I wasn't going to spend my
time traveling around to over-priced antique stores, I put an ad in the local
paper.  I wanted to find a 201 in good condition.  The ad was scheduled to
run for 6 day -- I found two machines in the first two days, bought both, and
canceled the ad because I knew I'd keep buying if I got anymore calls and
there was no way to take more home.  I may sell one, but it will be hard to
do.  I really love 201's.  One is in a blonde desk cabinet (an AH) and the
other in a reddish walnut (AK) similar design.  The AK is all cleaned up and
sews like a dream -- all shiny and the gold in very good condition.  The same
is true of the AH. --  So, who cares about over-priced antique dealers -- I
really believe ads are the way to go.  That's how I found my FW in California
a few years ago and it's a great machine.

Thank you again, Sue.  My son printed all of my Digests and it was great fun
reading two week's worth -- 

Date: Mon, 21 Jul 1997 13:01:37 -0400
Subject: fw sighting

the Ottawa citizen has a add in the antiques for sale colum today.Singer
fw for sale bd 1940,Inc case,accessories.perfect working order.$300.00.
I will hold on the add and if anyone is interested email me  and I will give you the tel.#
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 1997 13:09:39 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: 301a sitting and A Good Find

Over the weekend, the bug hit again.  This time I found a Singer Combination
Table No. 301 that fits the 99 Series and the 128 Series machines.  I had been
watching this table at an antique store and the
price seemed a little high ($95.00).  Then they had a huge 12 off sale and this
was one of the items.  Boy, was I excited, I brought it home and cleaned it up
some. One thing that surprised me was none of my Singers fit into
it...MMMMM.......I was beginning to think this wasn't the buy of the day.  Then
I remembered seeing this table in the ISmacs web page under Singer/Cabinets. 
ISMACS has a nice illustration of the table and how the machine goes into it. 
I was taking the machines out of the carrying case, and what I should have been
doing is putting the whole bottom part of the carrying case into the hole. 
Now.....I did get the buy of the day.  I have a wonderful 128 and a 99 that
this table will fit.  And to think I would have sold it to the highest bidder. 
Well,  maybe another day.  I also had a siting, for those who are interested. 
It's in La Salle, Michigan at the American Heritage Antique Mall right off
I-75, 313/242-3430.  It was a Black 301a for $250.00.  I thought it was a
little high considering there wasn't a cabinet or case, attachments, manual, or
oil can; just the power cord.  However, the bobbin and case were intact, so I
guess that's a plus.  I already have a nice beige/white 301a so I don't need
another, but thought someone out there might be interested.

I also, found an old trunk at a sale that was $32.00.  I'll drag that home and
clean it up to display my old quilts and linens in.  Oh boy, another project.
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 1997 10:14:43 -0700
Subject: Rocking Chair Pin Cushions

I've been wondering a lot about these little chairs myself.  There are 
a lot of them out here in southern California;  many of them are the 
plywood types that look home-made to me while others are more 
"finished."  I have one that is upholstered in an upholstery weight 
cut fabric with wood that looks like "real" furniture.  I've always 
wondered if the pattern were widely available in some magazine like 
Popular Mechanics or were a standard project in a high school 
woodworking class because they vary so widely in quality.  I'd guess 
the age of the earliest I've seen as 1940's based on the fabric used.  
I'd love to hear if anyone has more specific information.
Subject: sewing machine bases
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 1997 13:11:24 -0500

I was reading through some old Kitchen Klatter magazines and in the March
1955 edition, I found this article, Calling All Collectors.  Here's a part
of it.  They are talking about planters for their flowers.  Paragraph 6.  I
see that I forgot to mention old sewing machines, although this idea was
not strictly for containers.  Two of these old machines were used as end
tables!  The head had been taken out and in this well were placed large
potted plants; in the middle a lamp extended up high enough to light this
novel end table.  The sewing machine drawers were pulled out and filled
with African violets.  The old box head was placed underneath and was full
of ferns and foliage plants.  On the top was room for plants contained in
old china figures, etc.

So you can see that this was not a NEW idea to use these bases.  Some of
the other ideas would make an antique dealer cringe!   Kathy

Date: Mon, 21 Jul 1997 14:54:01 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 7/17/97

Hi Feathers, 

Saturday, my DW and I were looking in a hardware store in Kidron, Ohio and
a new treadle Singer Sewing Machine. The model is listed as #15-CH. The head
sells for $129.00, cabinet for $100 including treadle with fly wheel. I could
not believe my eyes! Any one interested can contact Leahman's Hardware at
phone # 330 857-5757 or fax 330 857 5785. 

The cabinet looks cheaper in quality but has the four draws and made the same
size. The head is full size with the thread tension adjustment on the back
side. They have a catalog on many unusual non electric items that were made
in the early 1900's. This town is in the Amish country in mid Ohio. 

Date: Mon, 21 Jul 1997 15:13:19 -0400
Subject: Recent Sightings and Mail Order Testimonial

As much as I hate to promote the Singer store at Carlingwood Mall, they have
a couple of interesting machines that an Ottawa, Canada-area fanatic might
find interesting.  On Friday they had a Singer 306K for $99 and a Singer
411 for (I think) $149.  Both looked to be in good used condition.  I have
no idea what kind of attachments came with them, since the lady behind the
cash register insisted she didn't work there (!) and appeared to not be
interested in telling me who did.  They are displaying one of those
repro treadles in the front window.  I don't find the decals as garish
as I imagined they might be, but the cabinet is pretty awful-looking.
This store never advertises total prices (except on used machines), 
only monthly installments,and they listed this treadle as costing around
$32/month for 24 months.  Ouch.

For anyone who is thinking about ordering from folks who advertise on
FWForSale, I offer my own experiences.  I've ordered from Chris at
Stepping Stones Quilts a couple of times and have been impressed
with the quality and prices.  He sent me a photocopy of the manual for my
Singer 403A.  It's a really good reproduction and is harder to misplace since
it's copied on standard size photocopy paper.  I also ordered slant shank
Alphasew and walking foot attachments and I'm really pleased with these, too.
Also, Mike H at the Woodstock Sewing Centre sent me a replacement foot pedal
for the 403A.  It was packed so well, it would have survived being tossed off
a mountain top!  I tried it out this afternoon and it works much better than
the one the Sewing Machine Hospital sold me (got very hot and I could hear
sizzling sounds inside--boy, did I unplug that one fast).  I think anyone
who doesn't have a good local supplier should try these folks!

At the risk of going on forever, I thought I would tell you how one sales
person at "a local" Singer store gets creative use out of a featherweight.
One afternoon as I was checking out the used machines, another customer
began negotiating for a used Touch 'n Swear.  This lady had her baby with her
and was obviously not a wealthy person.  When she tried to get the sales
person to cut the price by $20 or so, the clerk pulled out the familiar
black case and opened it.  Removing the featherweight with a flourish, she 
informed her customer that she had a list of six people willing to pay
$600 for it.  "They become collectibles", she said, using this as an excuse
for refusing to cut the price on the Touch 'n Swear.

Date: Mon, 21 Jul 1997 08:44:14 -0700
Subject: 201 question

     Dear Feathers--
     Not a FW question, but since you are such a knowledgeable, helpful 
     bunch and there has been some discussion of the 201 lately...
     I have a 201 that needs to be serviced (unfortunately, being a newbie 
     I adjusted the bottom tension not knowing that it could not be 
     adjusted back-- so I screwed the tension up even more than it was 
     originally!  It didn't help my ego when the very next day on the 
     digest there was a warning about doing that...)  Anyway, the 201 is in 
     (what I believe to be) a Queen Anne style cabinet where the wire for 
     the knee/foot pedal goes through a metal plate on the side.  I can't 
     figure out how to get the machine out of the cabinet without undoing 
     that metal plate thingie, but it works via a spring mechanism and I am 
     afraid that if I remove it, I may never be able to get it back in.  
     Should I be concerned about this?  The machine is quite heavy and it 
     would be even more cumbersome to take it into the shop within the 
     cabinet and I would hate to get it out of the cabinet and not be able 
     to get it back in!  Does anyone have any idea how to either (1) remove 
     the machine from the cabinet or (2) fix the lower tension mechanism 
     (although at this point I strongly suspect that I better leave this to 
     the professionals!).  Thanks in advance! (Please email me direct at 
     ama@vkco.com as sometimes I get a bit behind in reading the digests!)
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 1997 16:31:49 -0700
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 7/19/97

A while back, one of the FWF's sent out questionnaires on all the old
machines the rest of us FWF's own, in addition to the FW's - can't
remember who it was, but really would like to get in touch, and see the
results. Thanks - Becky
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 1997 17:24:00 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: Re:FW block

I just purchased the FW block from Christine Islander at ctislander@aol.com.
The URL is http://members.aol.com/ctislander/index.html and she has pictures of all her patterns with a writeup. It is quite a complex block (16" square and I purchased a patterns for bobbon borders to make it into a wall hanging) with 13 pages of diagrams and instructions for $5.00. Christine
will ship and bill you. I orderd my pattersn through her email address and
received them in less than a week which is very good considering the package
went through the Canadian postal system which at times leaves a lot to be
desired!!!Sometimes it is swift but mail can get tangled up in customs!!!

Hope this is what you were looking for.

Date: Mon, 21 Jul 1997 19:18:59 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 7/19/97

hi all,
i have a question regarding the singer touch and sew.  i picked up a 1975 or
so model, and wonder if these machines were any good.
anyone have any ideas about it?
ellen b.
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 1997 19:57:51, -0500
Subject: FW Block

Dear Capt Dick and interested FWS,
I am not the original one to send the web site, but I think I know 
the one you are talking about. It's http://members.aol.com/ctislander/index.html   
Happy Scrapping,
Subject: New FW
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 1997 17:06:27 PDT

Well I have a new freearm FW thanks to Glen Williams. Thanks Glen. He 
hand transported it to Detroit Airport where DH and I awaited like two 
expectant parents. The little beauty is just that and then some, am 
looking forward to many days of play and polishing. Glen assured me 
there were no little accidents on the plane. 
We will be excited to show this to our workshop participants, many of 
which may never see a 222. Be sure and Bookmark our new web page at 
http://www.angelfire.com/mi/featherweightcare  for workshop locations and 
description of what we have to offer. 
We just recently bought a 201 in the nicest cabinet I have ever seen, 
greatest stitch I've ever seen. Happy hunting. Nancy
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 97 01:51:11 UT
Subject: RE: FW Fanatics 7/19/97

I need a simple sewing project to get started using my sewing machines.  I was 
thinking of a type of rag rugs.  Does anyone have any ideas on this?  I 
definitely have the fabric but donot know where to go for direction.
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 1997 21:48:52 -0500
Subject: White FR - lube or oil?

I have a White Family Rotary that I only recently got a manual for.  The
previous manual I had seen (#13 - not an exact match to my machine, but
close) said to put lube in the two tubes on either side of the motor.  The
manual #12 (for my machine) says to use a few drops of White Sewing Machine
Oil.  Which do I use?
If it helps, the 2 tubes have screw on caps, under which is a spring with a
wick attached.  Thanks for any help.
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 1997 22:59:48 EST5EDT4,M4.1.0,M10.5.0
Subject: RE: FW Fanatics 7/13/97

I have to comment on the Mangle Disaster. As with any electrical appliance, you
need to check the WATTAGE on the appliance before you plug it in and then make
sure if it draws a lot of current that it is on its own circuit, not sharing with any other appliance. So for ex., if you plug in an ordinary iron, which is rated maybe 1000 watts, say, that corresponds to about 10 amps (watts divided by volts which is 110 in the U.S.). If the fuse in your electrical panel for the circuit you plugged the iron into is rated 15 amps, then everything else on that circuit must total less than 5 amps. Thus all appliances which draw lots of current like toasters, irons, electric frypans or anything which generates heat, should be on their own circuit so as not to blow a fuse or a circuit breaker. Use of an extension cord is a little like a credit card; it doesn't MAKE more power (money) it just distributes it a little differently! Of course this particular mangle might have some short circuit in it which caused problems, but I don't quite understand why it didn't just blow a fuse instead of causing worse damage. I suggest further investigation into the garage electrical circuit just for the safety of your home.
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 1997 00:23:43 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: ISMACS Digest for 17 Jul 1997

We finally got thru to Singer and they told us that the machine DH stripped
the paint off from was made in April 1889.  100,000 were built, but no model
number was listed.  There's a picture of a fiddle based machine like it at
Bob Bannon's web page http://webhome.idirect.com/~bbannen/homepage.htm
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 1997 21:20:08 -0700
Subject: Forgive Me !!

Yes I do read all the posts and have seen this solution at least a dozen 
times...but it works! I finally tried it...thanks to all. This is in 
regards to a handcrank machine I had purchased and begged for help on 
getting it un-stuck....well the blow dryer worked like a charm, now this 
 machiner is working great! THANKS!

Here is a product I tried on this machine to get off all the grime even 
on the decals with no problem at all. My DH works for an oil company and 
they use a product called MVP to clean their hands etc whenever they get 
lots of oil spilled on themselves; it contain lanolin and NO petroleum 
products. It will clean off grime, oil, stubborn oil and leave the 
surface of your hands and sewing machines shiney clean..with no water 
rinse either.

Also for my last post which I haven't seen yet, last post I have had was 
Friday's, the new machine I purchased at a flea market on Sun and asked 
about is a 66-1 red eye converted to electrical. It was in a beautiful 
bentwood case but has no attachments. But I have been told I can use my 
FW attachements. Thanks again for your help and sorry I can't sit still 
for a week's posts to get here for the answers.....is that a type A 
personality??? Hugs Maxine
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 1997 01:00:01 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: Re: Nylon Carrying Case

Hi Guys!
I am hoping tha someone can help me out. I am looking for the cordura 
nylon featherweight bag that looks similar to a bowling ball bag, but 
has a great inner padded lining with a buckle acorss the bottom on the 
inside which straps across the bed of the machine. The gentleman who 
sold these was at the Vermont Quilt Festival either last year or the 
year before. There is another bag on the market, but it does not have 
the inner shell or bottome strap feature. If anyone can be of 
assistance I would appreciate it very much.
Thanks, Mj
Subject: FW Block
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 1997 00:17:45 -0700

Hi, all

Thanks to the several people gave me the site info for the FW block:

 web site at:  

Go for it.  It's a real nice block.

Captain Dick
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 1997 19:53:29 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: 301a siting

Over the weekend I spotted a black 301a at a Antique Store in La Salle,
Michigan.  If any one is interested please E-mail me, and I'll give you the
phone number. They were asking $250.00.  I thought it was a little high
considering everything was missing except the power cord, foot pedal, bobbin
and case.  I let it go, but someone else out there may be interested.
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 1997 19:18:57 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Orlando Quilt Show

The 1997 Orlando International Quilt Show will be held in Orlando Sept.
18-21. The phone number I have is 407-523-2913. I went to this show last
year and it is FABULOUS! So many quilts of all kinds! I didn't take any
workshops (I am not a quilter) but there are dozens of them offered, and
it's worth the trip to visit the vendors. Take lots of money to buy the
irresistible fabrics, embellishments, and accessories.

"Moonsage" and others planning to go: let's email each other privately so
we can meet up in September and talk FWs!!!!

Date: Mon, 21 Jul 1997 22:00:58 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 7/19/97

To Captain Dick and all other interested feathers. I too say the post
reguarding the machine  block and just had to check it out. As you say it
looks very detailed and I just can't wait to get my hands on it. I will give
you the address of the web signt and hope that my funny little fingers don't
make a mistake . Good luck 
http://members.aol.com/ctislander/      At least go view the blocks she has to
offer they look great!   Elaine
Date:	Mon, 21 Jul 1997 21:46:56 -1000
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 7/20/97

To: Maxine, Re: Portable machine

Judging from your description, it sounds like a Model 66 with the red,
green, and gold decorations.

To: All, Re: Working on a book

I've already posted this to the ISMACS list, but I have been writing up
a book on old sewing machines.  It'll have all of the info on my web page
along with alot of other stuff that I haven't had time or web space to put
up online.  The book will have alot of photos, diagrams, and
illustrations.  It will be an ID book which will cover all home use Singer
and other American made sewing machines made in the 1870s-1930s period.

Although it's main purpose will be for identification, it will also
include oiling, maintenance, and threading diagrams as well as historical
info, frequently asked questions & answers, quick model ID section, etc.  
I have access to alot of sewing machine info but haven't been able to find
much on A.G. Mason, Standard, Household, or Eldredge/National sewing
machines.  I'm currently on the lookout for sewing machine pictures and 
old manuals or advertisements for these machines and any others.  I'd be
more than willing to pay for xeroxing and postage costs.  

Graham has offered his assistance with the book, so the book's information
will be as accurate as possible.  If anyone has suggestions, comments,
etc, feel free to email privately or post them here.  The general format
of the book will be set up like a Jane's warship ID book.

Re: Decals

The designs for the bentwood decals are done.  I'm currently looking for a
good/cheap source for decal paper.  
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 1997 18:22:37 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Rocking Chair Pin Cushion

They are still being made and sold in the Smokies.  Some are nice others are
a joke.  And everyone is an antique?  The guy had about 10 on the shelf for
7.50 I think it was.  I asked if he made them.  He said that they were a
"lost" shipment and there are the last 10.  Got the same story for a booth a
little farther down except he had one out.  I sighed and wished he had 2 and
"poof" he remember that the little old lady had 2 and he had forgotten to sit
the other one out.  (10 each)  All were plywood and not aged.  "Lost
shipment" right,  well it may work on some or they would not have so many
being made.

Got a nice pair of embrodery scissors for 2 that were old.  The dealer had
them with his medical supplies.  BTW if you have never used a dentist tool to
get lint out you should try it.  Do not scrap.  The long twisted point will
nab a dust ball and take it out of the machine.  I am careful not to poke
anything.  It cleans under feed dogs really good.  The lint brush sometimes
pack lint.  After I use the tool I use the lint brush for the surface lint.

Blessed Be
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 1997 00:23:44 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: ISMACS Digest for 17 Jul 1997

In a message dated 97-07-18 03:48:29 EDT, you write:

>>I would appreciate hearing from the folks who've tried newspaper ads to
 find out what features of the ad brought them success or failure. >>

Hi Dorothy,
DH put the ad in the paper and said it was just in a general Wanted column.
 The free Shopper paper that we get has no categories--just all mixed up.  We
got one response from that, the $50 machine.  He also answered an ad for an
'older portable sewing machine'.  That one was the $100 machine.
Gail R.
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 1997 17:29:37 -0700
Subject: Singer 500

Hi Feathers. Does anyone know of a picture of a Singer 500 or 503 on the
web? I would appreciate knowing where. TIA. Jack
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 1997 19:53:09 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: My new find

Hello Feathers

I just wanted to tell of my newest find.  I saw a nice Singer treadle for
$50.  I thought the price was good.  Then I looked into the drawers and found
the elusive oak "puzzle" fold out box.  I knew then that this machine was
coming home w/me.  The dealer was telling me all about the many things you
can do w/these treadles.  He was saying how they make nice tables and tv
stands and putting the 4 drawers together to make those sewing boxes etc.  I
just had to tell him...you know they also make great sewing machines.  I use
my 1800's "white" treadle for most of my quilt making projects.  I love them.
 So much control.

My cousin just found a FW at a garage sale for only $25!  What luck!

I have been hearing that their may be a quilt block "FW"?  I would love the
pattern.  Does anybody have one?

Thanks for listening.

Date: Mon, 21 Jul 1997 18:40:57
Subject: my two cents worth. 

dear fws; have been quiet lately, too darn busy and easily overwhelmed by
our repair business, just bought yesterday a featherweight from the late
forties in about cond 6, will overhaul and sell. Also picked up a nice 404
with a clean 15-88 and a early 27 with a oak stand with brass pulls instead
of knobs. Finally thought if I could work all night while the  family
sleeping could get caught up but the only problem with that I am the
biggest sleeper in the family, i need my rest. Our service van has been
sick for two weeks so the basement is overflowing with junk and stuff that
hasnt been moved to the warehouse, must have at least forties sewing just
sitting on the floor any open spots, warning dont let this happen at your
This is the basement of course, yours mike Hulet owner Woodstock sewing
centre.also known as mikeh
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 1997 08:26:21 -0700
Subject: Hi Everyone!

	I've been reading the posts about the rocking chair pin cushions.  I
see these quite often in antique shops, but I don't think I've seen any
that were very old.  They are cute, though.  One local antique mall has
miniature white metal sets that look like lawn furniture, sometimes with
pincushion seats, that are advertised as being made by prison inmates.  
	A recent posting described how one FWF has run into many
self-proclaimed SM experts, including one who said Howe invented the SM.
I have a good one, too.  A young gentleman asked to see some of my SMs
and was particularly impressed with a Singer in a very fancy treadle
cabinet.  He said his mother had a similar machine and then said his mom
was very familiar with SM history.  He went on to tell me that the
person who invented and the SM was named Singer, but it was a woman. 
She contracted with an engineer to have her design prototyped and
eventually became very rich.  How's that for some SM "history"?  This
gentleman is quite sure his mom's facts are right and would hear no
	Happy hunting!

Date: Tue, 22 Jul 1997 08:17:09 -0500
Subject: strange table?

Becky ...

If it's too big for the FW, too small for the 301, perhaps it's for a
Spartan?  mine is the same size as a 128...it fits in that cabinet.  perhaps
they made tables for them?

Sherrie G
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 1997 09:30:39 +0100
Subject: Mangles

I found a mangle!  Well, I was excited.  It is a stand alone, with a
cover, and takes up as much or more room then my dryer, it might stay in
the garage, it's too heavy to ask my husband to take to my sewing area
in the basement.  But it works and gets hot!  I scorched some muslin on
high so turned it back to medium.  It is a Simplex.  Very automatic with
buttons and knee levers and seperate motor and shoe controls.  Having

Met with some MI and Can. quilters from another list Saturday at the
Lansing Quilt show and lo and behold!  Some fellow feathers!  Hi!!!

Had tons of fun. While at Country Stitches, I got the idea for my
challenge quilt. Now I'm busy working on my challenge, got some Aunt
Grace fat quarters, and the anniversery book, and am making "Star of
David" blocks, as my 13 yr old DS told me, Right!  Now I know what to do
with all of my Hannuka fabric! And I thought I was just doing stars for
the Galaxy of Stars quilt.  Thank goodness for a family that
occasionally takes interest in my addiction.  

Off to make stars, 
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 1997 09:36:57 -0400
Subject: Needles for old New Home needed

Greetings, FWFs:

I haven't posted in a _long_ time.  I have been overcome with
selling my house, getting financing for another, moving to 
Vermont, and planning a wedding.  (Aug 23rd: 4 weeks, 4 days, 5
hours & 30 minutes to go!!!!  %) )  Despite this, I did manage
to buy a nifty old treadle in a parlor cabinet.  Just to give
the movers something more to move. :)

Enough storytelling: The very nice lady who came to my house
last week to estimate the cost of my move is also a sewing
machine collector.  She has dozens, she says.  But she's
not a connoisseur.  From our conversation, I gathered that
she doesn't know much about her machines (whether any are
zigzag or not ?!?!) but she has the bug.. 

She recently picked up a New Home Deluxe NLC (this is what
it said on the *mint* manual that came with it).  She showed
me the manual.  It's amazing.  It looks like it was just printed.
She picked it up (the machine) at the Salvation Army, for $10.. and 
it has attachments galore.  

It has no needles though, and she knows not where to come by them.

I told her I'd ask y'all.  So, here I am, asking:  Does any of
you know where one could find some needles for this beasty, OR,
does any of you have some (or one) that you would like to 

Thanks for your troubles.  :)  

And thanks for the good reading! :)

Subject: FW Facelift
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 1997 09:40:49 -0400

Does anyone know of someone who does repainting & decal-ing of the FW's?? 
Is this a no-no??
I've found a nice 1936 for $40 that sews well, but needs a cosmetic
facelift.  Not trying to make it pretty
to sell, just to keep.
Does anyone have any info on a black machine that looks like all the other
40's & 50's with gold &
silver trim.  Doesn't have a company name, just Good Housekeeper.  Made in
occ. Japan.  Also a
light green SewTex made by Home Sewing Mach. Co.   Thanks.  Karen 
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 1997 08:48:32 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: Puzzle box attachments

Karen said:

> At a garage sale this week I came across several Greist feet (ruffler,
> narrow hemmer and I don't know what else) that probably came from a
> puzzle box. 

The one thing you can be sure of is that, if they were made by Greist,
they *didn't* come from a Singer wooden puzzle box!  Greist did make
after-market attachments for Singer machines (which look the same as the
Singer feet, and perform the same function) but Singer made the
attachments that were included in the boxes. 

Susan said:

> Some of the better lines I've heard are:
>        - Oh, it just needs a little oil (pointing to a siezed machine)
>        - Howe was the inventor of the sewing machine.
>        - This machine is a steal at $145; my mother's cousin's aunt's
>          nephew sold an old machine for $7000 (gee, Graham, I didn't
>          know you had relatives over here 8^) ).
> I was wondering what sort of strategies the FWFs use to deal with these
> guys.  If I'm not interested in the machine, I just smile and sidle
> away.  However, if I'm thinking of buying the machine, should I put on
> my wide-eyed innocent look or do I pull out my copy of Cooper?  What
> works best for you?  

I've heard most of this stuff, too...  one of the funniest was the old
lady who had a rusted-out, completely seized head to a 27 consigned to an
antique shop.  "Just give it a bath of oil -- it will be as good as new!" 
Maybe she was talking about what it looked like new before Singer put the
paint and decals on...

... and then there was the guy with the $400 Howe treadle that told me
that Elias and Howe were the inventors of the sewing machine -- and their
personal inventors' seal was right there on the front of the machine,
which meant that this machine was one of the first ever made!... I
sidled away that time, too. 

What I do kind of depends on who I'm dealing with.  I hate to say this (DH
will accuse me of sexism) but if I'm dealing with a woman, it's usually
easier to deal with her by displaying my knowledge.  (Remembering what
approximate dates go with what Singer serial number ranges is a good way
to look *really* smart about old machines!  I rub the gunk off the serial
number, and say something like, ah, a 27, made about 1915...  there sure
were a lot of these Sphinx design models around then, weren't there?) 

Then again, most of the extragavant claims I hear are made by men who also
seem to have a severe case of testosterone poisoning which causes them to
have trouble with women displaying any knowledge other than how to turn on
an oven.  (This is the sexist part of my comments.)  Showing that I know
something about machines often backfires in these circumstances. With some
of them, I can make a firm offer and their desire to sell the machine
overcomes their desire to play the superior male, but not in every case. 
Unfortunately, I'm handicapped in that area; it's virtually impossible for
me to smile and look vacant-eyed while I'm being patted on the head and
told the secrets of the universe as they apply to sewing machines...

Date: Tue, 22 Jul 1997 09:55:46 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 7/20/97

To Susan - You asked what works best for you when a seller/dealer doesn't
seem to know much about SMs.  I find Honesty works best for me.  I tell them
all I know.  They'll often say, "You sound like a dealer!".  I tell them I'm
not, but I've just done my homework and have a love of sewing machines and

To Nancy D. - I agree with you about dickering.  I've never once offered less
than the asking price and 2 of my FWs cost over $400!  I have to live with my
conscience!  In regards to this, I'll share a little story with you.  Put an
ad in the paper wanting a Singer FW.  Got a response.  The owner wanted to
bring the FW to my home (she lived 40 miles away!).  We set up an evening
appointment.  Well, at 7 PM, here she comes with her husband, daughter and
son.  My first question was "Why are you selling this FW?"  Because she had
just bought a new Bernina from our local dealer, who, by the way, offered her
more for her FW than she was asking me for the FW.  Then, I said, but don't
you want to keep this FW for your 10 year old daughter who was into sewing?
 Again, no, daughter loved the new Bernina.  Still puzzled as to why she
didn't sell it for more to the Bernina dealer, she responded, "I wanted to
make sure it would receive a good home, that's why I brought my family along.
 If I sold it to the Bernina dealer, I would have no idea if it wound up in a
good home!"  Anyway, once she agreed that her FW would be in a good home, I
wrote a check for what she was asking.  Upon handing her the check, and
seeing our name on top, it turned out they had been to my husband on past
business.  Wouldn't I have felt like a fool had I tried to lower the price?
 Honesty has always proven to be the best policy for me!
P.S. The ladies name was Talita, named after a star constellation.  My
"Talita" FW shines to this day!
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 1997 09:35:46 -0600
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 7/20/97

I sure do agree with Nancy D in Ontario Canada!!!!  I have subscribed to
FW Fanatics for only a month or so, but there seems to be an awful lot
of greed out there concerning these machines. Wouldn't it be a little
better world if everyone played fair?  (I know, my rose colored glasses
are showing!)  Thanks for listening.  Lynda
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 1997 10:40:44 -0500
Subject: FW block

I looked up the block in The Electric Quilt, and it's a nice sewing machine,
but I like the block I bought from Christine much better!  Y'all, it comes
with printouts of all templates.  and she's very prompt!

it has the little fold-down bed and everything, including the seal on the

Date: Tue, 22 Jul 1997 12:29:54 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Foot for doing 1/4" seams

I use a Big Foot on my FW for sewing quilt blocks and it works fine.
 However, a couple of people on FWF suggested an Alphasew foot to me and said
it worked better.  I'm willing to give it a try but don't know where to find
it.  Not sold at either of the quilt shops I go to locally.  Anyone have an
internet site to recommend?  Also, someone else mentioned that a collecter of
FWs (with a website) also sells this type of foot - can't remember the name
of it.  Appreciate your help.

And, lastly, I have a White 764 that needs a foot that does 1/4" seams as
it's Feed Plate/Needle Plate does not have a 1/4" seam line.  The Little Foot
did not work on this machine.  TIA, Marilyn
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 1997 11:45:06 -0700
Subject: Bargains

Just read Nancy D's statement:

> I'm sorry all, but I have to say this.
> I have no problem with, when you see a featherweight priced at a very 
> low price, grab it and pay the money as fast as possible and get out 
> the door. 
> I have a very serious problem with someone, on seeing this bargain, 
> dickering the price in half, just because the other person doesn't 
> know the machine is worth ten times what he has it priced at.
> Nancy D
> In southern Ontario Canada, where my hands are shaking, I'm so upset.

I've got to admit that I must agree with her, even though I really love
to bargain.  If something is already a "steal" though, especially if
offered for sale by a person rather than a store, I try to avoid
bargaining, or if I absolutely feel the need, will bargain it down a
couple bucks (assuming it costs more than $30). Generally though, I will
just pay the price.

Whenever I think of really bargaining down the price of a "steal," I
think back to what a local Sewimg Machine shop did.  There was a Pfaff
1222 in the paper for $100.  Those of you who know this machine, also 
know that a used one can sell for $450-$650 at a store ($100 is well
below wholesale).  I started calling in the morning and when I got
through, left a message that I would pay more than they were asking. 
The lady called back later in the day to say that it had sold.  A person
from that local sewing machine store had called early, arrived early,
and gotten on to phone to the store so no-one else could call in.  They
then told here that her 1222 was not a 1222 E and therefore junk.  They
would be willing to buy it for parts for  $60, but that she would be
cheating anyone who paid more than that (the tension was out of
adjustment so it was having some problems on many layers of heavy
fabric).  I told here that I thought they were lying (This is the same
store which, when I was still ignorant, tried to sell me a 1222 (not an
E) for $1000 (and almost convinced me), and they did sell a 1222 to a
friend for $950 (yes she got ripped off)).  After getting off the phone
with the lady, I decided to check up on the store, and so I called them
to ask if they had a 1222 for sale.  They said they just got one in that
day, and after tuning it up they'd sell it to me for $650.  When I said
that was more than I was willing to spend they said they'd sell it to me
"as is" for $350.  I then called the lady back and said that they'd just
tried to sell me her "parts machine" for $350 "as is."   I admit I was
disgusted at how they had cheated her.  All they had to do was give her
the price she'd asked, and that would have been fine, but no, they had
to lie to her and really cheat her, and that I found disgusting.  Since
that time, whenever I am tempted to talk down a real "steal," I think
back to that store.


Date: Tue, 22 Jul 1997 12:56:53 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: 201 & 201K & 1200

Hi All: Okay - I want/need to know the nuts and bolts of the differences (if
any) between the Singer 201, 201K & 1200.  My casual observation is the

The 201 has a light in front, a "built-in" motor and is direct gear-driven.
The 201K is a head only (same head as 201), with optional attached light (in
back) and attached motor. Not direct gear-driven, of course.
The 1200 is the same head as 201 - light?? don't know. Motor is a separate
BIG motor operated by a treadle style foot pedal usually mounted on a big
table for industrial use.

Is any of this correct? - would some of you experts out there please
explain. Shannon 
Subject: White SM
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 1997 15:35:48 -0400

I hope someone out there can help me.  I couldn't resist bringing home an 
old White sewing machine.  It's just the head and is the heaviest machine 
I've ever picked up.  It's model #769, painted tan and has a built-in 
handle across the top that is metallic beige.  I'm interested in finding 
additional feet, accessories, & instruction book, maybe even it's birthdate 
and a case for it.

It works but I haven't had a chance to really play with it.  Looks like 
it'll do straight, zigzag, the three stitch zigzag, blind stitch, and 
button hole.  At least there is a knob centered on the front with line 
drawings that look like that.  I'm off to play with it now.  

Thank you
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 1997 16:35:53 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Featherweight Quilt Block

A couple of people have posted lately looking for a Featherweight Quilt
Block.  I just ordered a pattern for one from Christine at
CTislander@aol.com.    If you want to see it go to her homepage at
http://members.aol.com/ctislander/   for pictures of her quilt block patterns
and cool info/pictures of her sewing machines. 

Date: Tue, 22 Jul 1997 16:52:56 -0400
Subject: Foot Control Needed

Hello Everyone--I am posting for a friend who is looking for a foot
control for a 1965 Singer Touch and Sew Model 603E.  If anyone can help,
please email me privately.  Thanks!  Dan
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 1997 17:02:50 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 7/19/97

In a message dated 97-07-21 18:14:13 EDT, you write:

>>I think attachments may have always been available for FW's, but maybe
 cost extra.  That might have been the buyer's option?  >>

I can't say for *certain*, but I would be surprised that the machine did not
have attachments included.  To my knowledge machines came with them.  I was
in for a surprise when I bought my Bernina that so many had to be purchased
separately--and very expensive--that were included when I bought my 401A new.
Gail R.
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 1997 17:16:57 -0400
Subject: Value and market for Singer Featherweight machine

Dear FWFanatics,

I have a Singer featherweight machine 221-1 with a black case, including
tray and most original accessories.  My mother purchased it in the late
1940's.  How can I determine its value and is there a market for selling
such a machine?

Thank you very much for your help.

Date: Tue, 22 Jul 1997 17:03:31 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 7/18/97

In a message dated 97-07-20 02:33:55 EDT, you write:

>>I thought I had two FW tables.  I took both tables out, set them up and
 FWSM only fit into the space on one  of the tables.  The table it fit into
 black lets and black metal sides with a wood tabletop.  Does anyone know
 the other table might be for?  It is prettier than the FW table, beige side,

 beige legs and a maplewood top.  It must fit some machine out there. >>

The other table sounds like the one I have for my 401A.  It also fit another
model I think.  In order to put my 401A into it I had to take the machine out
of the base of the portable case.
Gail R.
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 1997 17:03:12 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: 'The Singer' & FW tables & Domestic

Hello everyone,
I finally got thru to Singer and they dated the fiddlehead that DH stripped
the wrinkly paint off as April, 1889.  No day and no model was given.  They
said that 100,000 were built.

Sunday we got up early and went to the flea market.  After noting a couple of
comments about the FW tables we started looking closer at the tables the
vendors were using.  Right off the bat DH spotted one.  He asked the woman if
she would sell it and she said 'Oooh, nooo.  I *need* that table.'  DH
offered her $20 for it.  '$20?  For that old table!? Just a minute.'  And she
went to talk to her partner who said '$20? Take it!  You can buy a new one
and that one weighs a ton any way!'  So, he made arrangements to come back at
noon to pick it up.  :-))  

The finish was in pretty rough shape and we're not *that* much of purists, so
DH scraped the rest of the finish off, sanded a couple chips in the veneer
(he couldn't get a 3 in.black ink-like spot out) and revarnished it and
repainted the black edge.  The legs were fine except for the springs being
unattached & it looks great now.  It's just a little smaller than my 401

After that we spotted *two* more!  They were being used by an elderly vendor
*without* the inserts!  He thought he might have one of the inserts back in
his shed, but DH couldn't make any kind of deal with him.  *Maybe* he'll be
back next Sunday and *maybe* he'll have the insert.  DH offered him 10 for
the table & 10 for the insert next week, but he wouldn't even talk about it.

I also found the pink Jetson buttonholer!  There is just 4 templates in it.
 Are there more available?  The longest template like my 401 had wasn't

At another vendor I found an old round sewing basket in nice shape and
tailor's tape measures with the leather on the end. :-))  I bought 2 of
those.  I hate trying to pin thru those newer plastic tape measures at my

We also found a nice old wicker chair for our 3 season porch.  I should be
making the new cushion for it for our weekend company instead of being at the

That was the best day we've *ever* had at the flea market.

Before we went home DH remembered a rummage sale ad he had seen so we checked
that out too.  It was at a beautiful old farm house that a couple are
restoring.  DH asked her if she had any old sewing machines & she said Yes!
 She had a treadle inside she would sell for $50.  So we went to look.  

It wasn't a Singer, but it followed us home anyhow.   Somebody had done some
restoration on it.  Much of the decals are gone (possibly when they cleaned
it up), but the remnants can be seen.  It's a 7  drawer cabinet with coffin
lid with Domestic decal, metal bands at the bottom of the drawers and
silver-like drawer pulls and a  fiddle head.  The mechanism is free and there
was a needle & thread in the bobbin.  It looks like the picture of the Grover
& Baker machine on page 100 of the Carter Bay book.  (We're going to *have*
to buy that book!)  

The treadle base is similar (but no guard), but there are stars where the G&B
are in the picture and in the center.  It looks like all the usual
attachments are there and they all have little star cutouts in them.  Neat!
 The serial no. is 1164326 and the last patent date on the slide plate is May
16, 1876.  She had had it in a local antique mall for $150.

Gail R
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 7/18/97
Date:	Tue, 22 Jul 1997 23:26:07 +0100

To Pat re  recognising machines

Go to the ISMACS web page http://www.ismacs.net where you will find details
of how to order the illustrated Singer Recognition Guide.

To Tonie

What you have is the head of a Willcox and Gibbs treadle.

From the number it dates from 1937/38  so it might be from an electric
machine, That automatic oiler is the tensioning device.

The entire Tabic collection on East Charlston will be for sale later this
year. I'll be traveling over to finalise pricing when I get the OK from the
medics. The lady you met does have a listing but wants me to handle the
deal when I get there -- many machines have to be put back together --
Marvin Tabic was good at starting projects but didn't finish too many.
There will be lots of notice on this and other digests and sites.

Date: Tue, 22 Jul 1997 15:41:32 -0700
Subject: Graham's true stories

I recommend Grahams' true story # 2 for you Nancy from Ontario.  I want
to tell you, I know how you feel, I really do know how you feel.  Lynne
from Cal.
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 7/19/97
Date:	Tue, 22 Jul 1997 23:26:56 +0100

To Maggie

Those missing top and bottom bars for the Casige could be made if you ever
decide you want them.

To all re kind messages

Thanks to everyone who has been kind enough to enquire after my health.
Things were a little traumatic for a few days but I'm feeling better every
day now. Just wish they would come up with a diagnosis. All I'm betting is
bigger and bigger cameras on longer and longer probes (well, that's what it
feels like.)

Will have to miss the Nashville meeting but will be with you in spirit and
will be trying to get some advance promo material there so that you can all
book for the May convention at part of your  1998
 vacation to England/Europe.

Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 7/20/97
Date:	Tue, 22 Jul 1997 23:27:08 +0100

To Nancy D re dickering

You've got my vote

To Mary re handcrank

Very much doubt is this is really a Singer 30 on offer.

Just had an idea re your daughter. Why not fix the speed control on an
electric machine so that it would only tick over at slow speed. It could
then be slowly adjusted as she became more confident. Not having to
concentrate on turning a crank might also be safer with two hands free for
guiding the material.

To Douglas

Your Singer dates around 1949. Only you know the value.

To Susan

The Howes are going to be around 1879-80. They are as collectable as the
New Families but by no means rare.

As to dealing with "experts". There is no point in trying to educate them
as they know it all anyway.Just tell them what you are prepared to pay and
offer to leave a phone number. Often, after a few weeks of being laughed
at, the dealer will phone you. The disadvantage is, of course, that if you
say $100, he's going to take $105 rather than call  you.

Of course, if the guy is really objectionable you can make him a offer
fairly close to his crazy price and then accidently give him the wrong

To Maxine

Need a full number for the Singer. The company dodged about a lot with the
G series and it actually had a 14-year run. Think the Singer Recognition
Manual with its 100 plus pictures would help you. Check it out at

Date: Mon, 21 Jul 1997 23:26:20 -0400
Subject: Featherweight Quilt Block

The address for the Featherweight Quilt Block is 


I have ordered one, but have not received it yet.

Date: Wed, 23 Jul 97 00:49:41 UT
Subject: Handcrank

While garage-saling this weekend, I found two Singer 128 handcranks in great 
shape, except one of them has had a make-shift crank put on it.  If anyone has 
an original crank they can part with,  I would appreciate hearing from you.
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 1997 20:33:34 -0500
Subject: Wanted

I need a manual or copy for Singer 101.  The one Singer sent me (the only
one they have) is the Adjusters Manual and doesn't show the basics, like how
to thread the machine and bobbin case, which way the needle goes, etc.  Thanks.
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 1997 21:13:10 -0400

Hello fellow feathers.  Just wanted to report back about the paint spot
remover I used for my W&G treadle cabinet.  I didn't find the 'Goofoff'
but found a product called 'OOPS' latex paint remover that I used and it
did very well with a lot of elbow grease.  I also tried it on the iron
wheel underneath the cabinet that had a few small paint brush strokes
and the paint came off easier than on the wood.  I was very careful to
rub only on the spots as much as possible and it looks great.  Have not
been able to replace the belt as yet, but put the old one on to see if
it would work and it worked great.  I think DH is as taken with this
machine as I am.  

Next step is to clean the cabinet and I bought Howard Restor-A-Finish,
but I need to actually clean the cabinet before I use this.  I'm next
going to 'orange oil' it real good and clean
the iron treadle pieces as they are almost as pretty as the machine.
I forgot what to use on the ironworks/treadle.  Thanks for all the help
and happy hunting!!

Date: Tue, 22 Jul 1997 21:27:46 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Pincushion Rocking Chairs

I've seen many pincushion rockers such as Jody mentioned.  (I collect sewing
articles, of course, among other things).  Anyway, I have a couple of
these--and I saw them in Germany when I lived there, too.  Someone told me
once that the pattern for these chairs was used by shop teachers in high
schools; students made the rocking chair pincushions for their mothers as
presents!  This isn't substantiated by any research, but it makes as much
sense to me as anything I can think of!  And most of the ones that I have
seen are definately homemade.  They look like a craft or shop project.

From Nancy 
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 1997 23:07:33 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: White FW Sighting

I went to the movies tonight at the Bala Theatre and as usual stopped to look
in the window of the sewing machine repair shop next door to see if there was
any interesting machines to admire.  There was a white FW in the middle of
the window and I could see its case on the floor of the shop.  No price tag
was evident.  I am not in the market for one right now so I thought I would
pass on the particulars in case there was any one in the Philadelphia area
that was interested.  The shop is Montgomery Sewing and Vac, 153 Bala Avenue,
Bala Cynwyd, PA , (610) 668-1819.

Date: Tue, 22 Jul 1997 20:36:11 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: lid for 500a

Hi Betty: That 500a or 501 is a fabulous machine. For $20 it's a steal. I
bought one without its lid for $25 at a thrift shop. A local sewing machine
repair shop had the lid for $20. So for $45 I have a machine worth a whole
lot more - and it's sews great. It is a slant needle. Anyway. If you want
the machine, i will call our local shop and see if they have another lid
(bet they do, they have over 3000 machines and they part them out). I would
send it to you at cost of shipping - no financial interest here - just want
you to be able to have a dandy machine for cheap. Shannon
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 1997 20:49:45 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Mystery Table

To Rebecca whose folding sm table is too long for a FW and too short for her
301. Rebecca, honey, you just have to go buy yourself a shortbed 301, and
you'll have a match. Your 301 has to be a longbed. Shannon
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 1997 00:46:54 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 7/21/97

I sure do love these notes.  I learn so much from all of you!  I read the
following note from Edith, 

>>It sounds as if your second table is for either a 301 or a 401.  I have
 like that for my 401 and had one that I sold 40 (Has it been that long?)
 years ago along with my 301.
 Hope this helps.

Edith, are you speaking of a cardtable for the 401?  Would you please
describe its color & composition (wood or metal)?  I really appreciate your
time in providing this information.  If it is convenient for you, could you
also provide a measurement of the table opening for the 401 machine?  I
didn't realize there was a table for the 401, and am amazed by what I learn
here.  Thanks so much for sharing the info!  Pat
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 1997 02:25:12 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: FW tension

Hi FWiends!  I am "detailing" a friend's 1949 FW and ran into a snag with the
tension assembly.  It was "loose" to begin with, so I disassembled it and
reassembled it.  I also played with screws on the bobbin case.  Now I'm
getting big loops on the bottom stitch.
I don't think anything is broken.  It just needs the proper adjustment or
Any suggestions?  Help!!  Thank you!  --Mari
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 1997 23:32:01 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: tables

Hi All: I was surprised to read that Singer made the same folding card table
with insert for a 99, 128, 401, as they did for the FW & 301. Aren't the 99,
128, 401 too heavy for a card table? 

To Kathleen: Be sure you are threading the needle on your FW from right to
left. If it is threaded the other direction, your thread will break. Every
time. Count on it.

To (Taria) and all SouthernCalif FWF:  We are meeting at the San Diego Quilt
Show on Sat. Aug 9, at 11 a.m. at the back of the hall where the stage is.
Wear a feather - be as elaborate as you like. I will keep reminding all of you.

To Marge: What a fun, fun, fun vacation you had. Piney mountain air, sms to
buy, save or clean, dealers to haggle with, quilts to make. Yummmmmmy. Wish
I was there.

To Anne: regarding how to get your 201 out of a cabinet that is wired in by
way of a knee control. I had that very same problem once. I did a desperate
thing. I loaded up the whole shebang (sm+#42 Singer writing desk cabinet) in
the back of my Ford Explorer and drove down to the sm shop. Unloaded down to
the parking lot, while the girl clerk and I tried to figure out how to get
this sm out of the cabinet. (The mechanic was not there that day). After a
long struggle, we finally decided that the best course of action was to get
the biggest, sharpest pair of sissors from the shop and cut that sucker
out!!! With one good SNIP we cut through the wiring at the cabinet. That
does work. However, I DO NOT recommend this procedure. (Mine was going to
have to be rewired, anyway, or maybe not, but I'll never know). This
experience has taught me a lot about how to get the machine, wires in tact,
out of the cabinet. As for the knee control - leave it alone. Look further
back in the cabinet and you will see the foot control - same little number
that we use for our FW. (When you push the knee control, it pushes the
bakelite button on the hidden foot pedal to make your machine go.) That foot
control is held in place on the inside wall of the cabinet by the same
contraption that holds it in the lid of a FW carrying case. Slide it out.
Take the back off the foot control with a screw driver. You will see 2 (if I
remember right) wires screwed in place inside the foot control. Undo those
screws. Take the wires off the posts. Now the wire is free to pull up
through the hole in the cabinet, and the sm is no longer teathered to that
big wooden beast. Can I assume you know how to free the machine from the
place where it tilts up? All rightie then. This is an activity where an
extra pair of strong hands/arms come in handy. Tilt the machine way back -
look under the machine at the hinged area. You will see an unbelievable
little screw on each side. Back them out just enough to lift the machine up
off the two posts that are in the hinges, and hurry on down to your favorite
repair person. Oh. Reconnect the bakelite foot pedal so the sm repairman can
check it out, too. To reinstall your machine, follow these instructions in
reverse. And. Did I say to make sure the sm is not plugged into the wall
while doing all this screwing around? Well. UNPLUG THE MACHINE BEFORE YOU
MESS WITH THE WIRING. Believe me. I know of what I speak. I learned that
lesson on the 2nd sm I collected. After burning up my blouse and hands, and
pitting my oak dining room table with flying red hot beads of copper, I took
that machine back to the dealer. He said, "woops". I said, "Thank you, God." 

I know this is long - and I know lots of you are probably bored silly by now
because you have been there, done that. But maybe some others can benefit
from my "just cut the %#@! wires" episode, and save themselves some grief.  

See ya at the SD Quilt Show. I'm going to keep buggin' about that!!  Shannon
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 1997 20:47:31 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Red Eye question

Maxine wonders what her "red eye" Singer is: here's some hints.

To Maxine: Slide the bobbin plate cover open. Look down into the hole where
the bobbin is sitting. Turn the wheel at the end of the machine. If the
bobbin race goes around and around and around and around - it is a rotary
bobbin. If the bobbin race goes about half way around, then half way back,
then half way 'round, then half way back, it is an oscillating bobbin.

Now - if it is an oscillating bobbin, has a red eye decal, is very heavy -
its got to be a 66. I think. Shannon in San Diego

P.S. The 66 is a full size head like the 201 - long armed. But the 201 has a
light built into the front of the head. The 66 doesn't - then again, a 201K
doesn't either, but the 201 is a rotary bobbin. Process of elimination will
tell you what you've got. 
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 1997 08:02:12 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: 500 series

I have a friend whose old Kenmore is having problems and she is thinking
of buying a new machine.  All she wants is straight stitch and zig-zag. 
I, being a FWF, suggested that she look for an old Singer.  One of the
stores she called said they had some 301s for $199 which sounded
reasonable to me but they also suggested a 500 for $249.  That sounded high.

We have a 503A which does not have a built in zz.  It takes a cam to do
the zz.  Can anyone list the 500 machines for me and tell me what the
differences are?  What do you think of the price?

Of course, with 27 sms in our house, I offered her a loaner so she doesn't
have to make a quick decision.

Date:	Wed, 23 Jul 1997 09:01:35 EDT
Subject: Re: Touch and Sew 

Ellen asked if the Touch and Sew (c. 1975) is any good. I have one 
and it has been my workhorse for the past twenty years. I've done a 
lot of sewing and quilting and haven't had any problems with 
it. I do clean and oil it frequently though. I think that helps a 
Mary Anne
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 1997 09:08:37 -0400
Subject: HELP

Hi everybody, I have a question. Does anyone know where I'd be able to
get the very tiny tiny screw that is screwed into the FW race that holds
the hook in place where the bobbin case goes. Did I explain that right??
Does anyone have a junk FW that they can part with that tiny screw???
Many thanks frish 
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 1997 10:04:17 -0700
Subject: Manual

Hi All!  My DH returned from an auction several weeks ago with 2 
treadles, one a New Home and the other a New Howe. The New Howe is still 
waiting to be worked on, but I just finished cleaning up the New Home. 
The machine was VERY dirty, but cleaned up nicely although almost all of 
the the gold is missing.  The cabinet looks very nice. I purchased a belt 
for it yesterday, and now I need some help.  The last patent date on the 
machine is Aug. 8, 1879.  The only other thing it says on the machine is 
"New Home" S. M. Co. Orange, Mass. U.S.A.  671107.  I am assuming the 
number is the serial number.  I have a parts list that was revised June 
1906, but the treadle bases shown on the back (#108 and #109) do not 
match mine exactly.  Does anyone know what model machine I have?  I also 
need a manual or a copy, and of course will pay all costs.
The oil can was in the drawer, and the price list says it cost 8 cents.
The cabinet has four drawers, and the decorative circular metal piece is 
missing from one of the drawers, as are a couple of metal pieces on top 
of the cabinet where the machine fits in.  Does anyone know of a source 
for these items?
TIA  for your help.
Michal Ann
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 1997 11:04:55 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 7/6/97

In a message dated 97-07-09 08:42:52 EDT, FWFanatics@ttsw.com (Featherweight
Fanatics) writes:

>>Anyone wanna tell me the different between "heat index" and temperature?
Heat index is a calculation using both temperature AND humidity.  Supposed to
be more indicative of how the heat 'feels' to you.

Subject: Featherweight birthdate
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 1997 09:45:55 -0700

Hello and thank you for such an intersting web site!!  I do not yet have a
Featherweight in my possession, but my mother (83 yrs old and still
sewing!!) will eventually be giving me hers.  She still uses it
periodically and doesn't want to give it up yet.  The only thing she makes
now is pyjamas for my son (17 yrs. old). Ever since she started making them
for him (he was two when she made his first pair) he won't wear anything
other PJ's.  She does beautiful French seams throughout and he thinks
that's just great.  Anyway, the reason I am contacting you is that I tried
to contact Singer via the phone number on your web site, to find out the
birthdate of Mum's machine, but was told the number  could not be completed
as dialed.  The only reason I can think of for that is that it might be a
US number and therefore cannot be dialed from Canada.  If that is the
reason could you possibly call for me and let me know the date?  I would
really appreciate it.  The serial number of the machine is AF167347. 

Thanks a lot.

Subject: 1960's FWs?
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 1997 10:00:47 -0700

I was wondering if there is a reason I can't find much out about FWs made
after 1959.   I have noticed that some lists even stop there.  Is it
because they are not as good? not as many? I have a chance to purchase a
1961 model and it is in great shape.  I would appreciate any advice.  I am
aware of the cosmetic differences with the newer models.
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 1997 11:14:36 GMT
Subject: Siting Old Kenmore SM in Eugene, Oregon

For those who want to collect old Kenmore Sewing Machines. I found an older
Kenmore at Goodwill Industries:1015 River Rd. Eugene, Oregon
Phone:(541)689-9030/They take visa and mastercard.

The age looks about 1930'-50's. It black with a godzilla texture. I was in
a hurry and did 't make notes of the model.
The cabinet is in fair shape and IT HAS SEVERAL ATTACHMENTS IN THE ORIGINAL BOX!
The price was $40, but you might be able to ask for less.

At this same store today I purchased a very beautiful model 66, Birthdate:
1921 with loaded egyptians decals(in good condition), bobbins and
attachments a wonderful addition. It's treadle machine that was converted,
and missing the bobbin plate, otherwise a great looking machine. The
cabinet has been trashed, and the treadle is incomplete...but is ok...I
purchase a beautiful 7-drawer cabinet and treadle for $10 at an estate sale
last year. The original price of the singer 66 was $100, it was marked down
to $60 because  it wasn't selling, and I had a donator's coupon for 20%
off, making the total $48!

Goodwill is a fun place to shop in Eugene, Oregon. I heard through Dan the
singer sewing man(the local singer repairman), that a customer found a FW
at the other Goodwill/Seneca last week for $10!

I hope this helps someone.
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 1997 14:20:07 -0400
Subject: Re: My first posting to the FW Fanatics list 

Hi Feathers!
I'm new to the FWF list having just found my first featherweight (221 bd
6/11/37) in a garage sale this past weekend.   It came with the case, two
extra feet, screwdriver and manual (dated 12/60) and is in pretty good

I would like to clean it up a bit (any suggestions for the body - I've
read  about baby oil?) and I  know that I should oil and lube it.  I'm
pretty handy and would like to do this myself (I do have the manual
showing the oil and lube points although I'm a little nervous about it  -
any suggestions?).   I know of no sewing machine mechanics that I can
trust (although I really don't think I need one - it does sew although
its a little noisy, probably just needs the oil and lube, right?).  Also,
how do I know if I need to replace the belt (I don't think its too worn
as I can still read the part number on it although it looks kind of dry -
is that the way it is supposed to look?)  One dealer that I called about
a belt insisted that  FWs were only manufactured in the 50s and 60s(!)
and there was no way that I could have one from 1937.  Another  repairman
asked me what was the big deal about FWs, told me that if I paid more
than $50 I got ripped off (I paid $100.00 and thought that it was a
steal!) and that he sees hundreds(!) of them in Pennsylvania for $25 and
$50 (I asked him where in PA but he wouldn't say - do any of you FW
Fanatics in PA know what this guy is talking about?!?)  He then tried to
sell me on a $600 Pfaff.

Also, any suggestions on getting rid of the musty odor.  I can't make up
my mind on whether I  like it or not (I kind of feel like old things
should smell like that) but my husband is not happy with the smell
(especially since I work on the machine at our dining room table!)

Any suggestions and/or info will be greatly appreciated either sent to
the list or e-mailed to me directly at naduke@juno.com.  Thanks again -
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 1997 14:58:14 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: Clarification.....

Hello All!
I've got a lot of the people who have featherweight related
material on the web listed on my link page. 

If you are listed, and I don't have the "Name" of your site
correct, won't you please drop me an email, so that I can
truely reflect what your site is all about?  I have 36 links
so far on that web page.  I'd like to get good names for
all of the links.

Oh, in Nancy Srebro-Johnson's new featherweight book,
she has some interesting information on the "Crinkle"
featherweights, made for "war" consumption times.  
And, she also in her book has a copyright statement
about her book being on the internet, without
publisher prior approval.  That is the first time
I've seen an explicit statement about Internet
copyright approval, in the books that I've read.

Date: Wed, 23 Jul 1997 17:09:12 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Captain Dicks' e-mail ??

Does anyone have Captain Dick's e mail address?

Date: Wed, 23 Jul 1997 19:32:21 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: ZIgzag attachment for FW

    I was reading on one of the sights and they were listing the parts
numbers .They had no part no. for the ZZ attachment .Well I have one with the
book still in great shape.The last copyright was 1939.And the part number is
121706.Ya'll probably already know this but,just in case.I LOVE the sight!
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 1997 20:51:20 -0600
Subject: New FW  Wallquilt Pattern

Stop by Cynthia England's Booth ( England Design) at the Houston
International Quilt Festival  (in October) if you like piecing FWs.  I
do a little computer work for her, and I've seen the preview of this new
pattern.  It is  extremely detailed.  I'll let you know when she gets
her web page done.

Nancy P.
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 1997 22:53:54 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Can it be fixed

Today I bought a Singer 66, for $10.00.  So if I can't get it to sew I'm only
out a little.  Here's my problem.  The machine was Frozen, and I mean frozen.
 I oiled, DW-40ed and wait,,,,,and wait....then things began to turn.  I
thought I was home free, when a part fell out the bottom.  It appears to be
the fork, one of the forks fell off.  Does anyone know how to fit this.  I
did take apart an old Domestic and found the piece that was broken on the
Singer 66.  Are these parts interchangable?  The machine isn't in that bad of
shape, maybe a +7.  So, now its a mission and I'd like to get this back
together.  I do have Sincere's Sewing Machine Service Book.  But,,,,,was this
book written for the common man or (women)...????  I find it hard to follow
as that parts decribed aren't named very well.

So, if anyone has any words of wisdom.....Cap't Dick, Graham.....anyone
Subject: Re: Model 15
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 1997 23:13:00 -0600

Dear FWs:

I've been enjoying the list so much, but not had a chance to share any of
my SM findings.
Today, in a small antique store I purchased a Singer SM.  Soon as I got
home I called the Singer 800 number and located the origin of this new
find.  The receptionist told me that this serial no. AH537490  was
manufactured on April 1,1948 and it only carried the #15 model number.  She
also said that this SM is very rare.
If anyone out there has more information they are able to share, I would
certainly appreciate any information on this particular Singer SM. TYIA

Subject: Necchi BU
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 1997 05:22:06 -0400

I bought a Necchi BU sewing machine last weekend - mostly after
reading about it in the Sincere history book (and I wanted to say
that I DO hope that someday we all get the copies of it that we
ordered so long ago - it really IS a WONDERFUL book, despite all
that's happened in connection with its republication!). I learned
that it was the first European zigzag machine imported to the US
after WWII and so seems to deserve a spot in my ever growing
collection of machines! Even the author Mr. Ewers had to admit that
Singer didn't do a very good job of getting into the zigzag field
(the model 206 and 306 were never big successes and in comparing the
ones I own to THIS machine, I can see why!). For a machine made in
1951 (at least that's the date on the manual), the Necchi is really
very impressive! The zigzag stitch is built in and seems to work
quite well, unlike the Singers which had to use cams. Also the sewing
mechanism on the Necchi is the old standard model 15 type, so its
easy to get at the bobbin where you have to lift the machine head to
change the bobbin on the 206/306 (which Necchi mentions prominently
in its promotional literature!). The Necchi has a drop on needle
plate so needs no screws (something else they emphasize!) and comes
with a straight stitch, zigzag and darning needle plate, as well as
many feet (a button sewing foot, buttonhole foot, darning foot,
ruffler and binder - which strangely enough for a European machine
are made by Griest!) as well as a black latch bobbin case in addition
to the standard one! Some time ago, I got another Necchi BU Mira
machine from Maggie Arlotta (which needed repairs that I never
undertook), and that machine came with a lot of great literature:
several Necchi ads, a registration and change of address card, AND
its original receipt dated 10/10/53 for $408 (which was the cost of
the machine and its cabinet)! That was probably a lot of money in
those days, but in looking at the machine now, it's easy to see why
Singer lost so much business to the Europeans after the war - it
really IS a very impressive product! I still love my Singers, BUT...!
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 1997 06:31:36 -0400
Subject: puzzle box

Hi Feathers.
I am new to your group and I am puzzled!
What is the puzzle box that I see mentioned?
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 1997 07:56:29 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Bargain?

Hi Fellow Feathers:  Can anyone tell me if a Singer 99 in wooden case in
mint condition with accessories is worth $150 Canadian? 

Thanks from Nina 
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 1997 08:14:23 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: model 66-1 attachments

Maxine said:

> ...the new machine I purchased at a flea market on Sun and asked
> about is a 66-1 red eye converted to electrical. It was in a beautiful
> bentwood case but has no attachments. But I have been told I can use my
> FW attachements.

Well...  probably not.  For some reason known only to Singer and the gods,
they made the 66-1 with a presser foot attachment that is different from
all the other family machines they were making... if it's a 66-1, it has a
screw at the back of the presser bar that holds the presser foot on, and a
standard short shank attachment (which attaches with a screw at the side,
like your featherweight attachments) won't fit. 

There are attachments for the 66-1 around, but because there was only that
one short line of machines that used this type of attachment, they're a
lot fewer & further between.  I have exactly one.  (Attachment, not set.)

Date: Thu, 24 Jul 1997 10:09:04 -0400
Subject: Old Singer Info

Hi everybody, and thank you to Debi in Ann Arbor for those nice things 
she said about me the other day. I'm sorry I can't respond more often 
but I am TOO busy to even think straight anymore.  

Someone asked about hand cranks and they are available.  

Someone else asked about Old Singers for sale. They were advertized 
somewhere and she thought they were new. Well yes, they probably were 
new. The model 15CH is still available.  

I also read so many interesting questions that go unresolved. I'm sorry 
I don't have time to respond but if it is important to you please feel 
free to call me at our toll free number. 1-888-SINGER-1  

I am better able to answer you on the phone than trying to type it out 
one letter at a time. Thank you for all your continued interest.  
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 1997 07:12:34 +0000
Subject: organization

I'm gone into one of my organization fits lately and come up with 
some ideas for organizing that I thought I'd pass on.

I got tired of having all my photocopied manuals flopping around in 
my bookcase.  I didn't want to spiral bind them because I don't want 
to look for a manual and see only 15 identical blue spiral binds on 
the bookcase.  I'd have to look through them just to find the one I 
want.  So I bought an accordian file with A-Z tabs.  Now, I just have 
to look for the pinker manual under "P" and my 99 manual under "N".

I also found a way to store trade cards.  I had them inside report 
covers in a 3-ring binder, but report covers are 8.5 X 11, which is 
way too big.  So I bought 3-ring binder sheets with "pockets" for 
photos.  I found them at a camera shop, and the plastic is all 
archival quality.  I found that the ones that fit 5" x 7" pictures 
are perfect for the Singer songbird series and for needle packs.  
I also bought the size for 4" x 6" pictures,  which fit most of the 
rest of my stuff (trade cards, needle threader instructions, etc.).  
And I also got a smaller size (one that fits today's trade cards) for 
my Singer needle packs and other very small items.  The sheets I'm 
using aren't cheap, but I think they're worth it.

Another suggestion I learned from Sue: Put strips of paper 
inside your attachment boxes listing model # and serial #, so you 
don't forget which box goes with which machine.

Yes, I'm one of those weirdos who keeps their spices in alphabetical 
order and who sorts clothes in the closet by type and then color. 
(Doesn't everybody? : >)

Date: Thu, 24 Jul 1997 07:12:34 +0000
Subject: card tables

> HI, FWF's,
>    I have a table here that is in great shape, looks very much like the
> FW table ( wood top, metalfolding card table-type legs, cut out on top
> with brackets to hold a machine, etc. etc. ), except that the cutout is
> too long for my FW, and too short for my 301. The space between the
> brackets is 10-3/4" long X 7 3/8" wide ( as best as I could measure with
> what I was using ). 
> I would love to have a table for my 301A, which measures 13-1/2" long X
> 6-7/8" wide - or that is approx. the size opening it would take.
> If anyone knows what model this table takes, I'd really appreciate you
> letting me know.

Rebecca, I hope this doesn't sound insulting, but have you tried 
putting your FW into this table?  (As background, I thought a table I 
have had for my MIL for weeks was for a 401 until I tried a machine 
in it.  Then I found it is for a short bed 301. : >)  The cutout on these 
tables fit the ENTIRE machine, extension bed and all, not just the 
base.  So the cut out for a FW table is 17.5" x 7 3/8"  The brackets 
fit just the base of the machine and are about the dimensions you 

In case you haven't seen them, I have pictures of my tables (OK, one 
is MIL's, but I keep hoping she'll forget it's hers : > ) on my web 

Date: Thu, 24 Jul 1997 11:20:29 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Damascus

Does anyone know anything about a machine named Damascus Grand Rotary?  It
has a knee bar and most of it is cast iron.  Can anyone tell me anything
about this machine?  How much is it worth and about how old it might be?
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 1997 11:15:18 -0700
Subject: Re: Mystery Table

Shannon wrote:
Subject: Mystery Table

To Rebecca whose folding sm table is too long for a FW and too short for
301. Rebecca, honey, you just have to go buy yourself a shortbed 301,
you'll have a match. Your 301 has to be a longbed. Shannon in San Diego

Great! Now, who has a 301 they'd like to sell or trade?
I have the following to dicker with -  a Greyhound P head, a fiddle base
s/n 8660107, with a shuttle bobbin, and a s/n AB730129.
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 1997 15:03:16 -0400
Subject: FW Feet

Hi everybody, I have this FW that needs feet. The old gray rubber ones
all have a flat and the screws are scratching my dining room table. I
remember someone had posted that they had bought something in a hardware
store that worked but I don't remember what it was - old age I guess. Is
there someone out there in FW land that has a good remedy for flat feet.
Many thanks frish
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 1997 15:14:07 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Tables

Hi gang,
I 'lost' the recent message & website with the tables pictured.  When I
looked at it tho, neither one looked like the table I have for my 401A which
my son has. ( I still have the table; it's such a *good* card table. Now you
know how they get separated.)

Mine is also blond with the beige sides, but the cutout has a dog leg in it.
 It's 7 1/8 x 16 5/8, and 18 1/4 in. where the dog leg is on the front of the
cut out. It has 2 metal brackets spanning the opening which the machine sets

Gail R
Subject: 3VS
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 1997 13:37:53 -0500

 Hi Fanatics!
I recently bought an old machine at a flea market.  I called Singer today
and they tell me it is a 3VS made in 1894.  It is a little machine 3/4 size
with a large spoked hand wheel and small gold flower decals. I believe it
was originally a treadle, but has had a motor added. Can anyone tell me any
more about this machine or a website that might have info on it?  Thanks!

Date: Thu, 24 Jul 1997 18:22:18 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: AlphaSew Foot


I recently ordered the Alphasew foot from Chris Vagtborg at Stepping Stones
Quilts and I love it.  He and his wife are very helpful and nice to deal
with.  He is listed on the FWFanatics web page - lots of Featherweight
stuff!  His e-mail address is 71155.1072@CompuServe.COM.  Good Luck!

Date: Thu, 24 Jul 1997 19:18:20 -0400
Subject: Dickering

Well I see I managed to stir up quite a bee=92s nest with my exuberant
posting about the Featherweight my brother found for $15. Now that
(hopefully) you have all calmed down, I would like to respond if I may.

First of all, and most importantly, it was my brother that found and
purchased the machine. He is NOT a collector. He has no idea what
Singers are going for. All he knows is that I collect them, and that
almost all the machines in my collection ( including 128=92s, 27=92s 401=92=
99=92s, 15=92s, and 201=92s) were purchased for under $30 and many for on=
$10 (and no, none of those prices were =91dickered=92 prices). He doesn=92=
know the value of a featherweight, nor even how to tell an original from
a modern copy. He did not know if the machine worked, or if it had been
repainted, was damaged or missing parts.  As a matter of fact, he called
my husband the next day to see if he had paid a decent price.=20

So while I agree with many of you that dickering a price down on an item
you KNOW is already grossly underpriced is rather low (if my husband or
I had found the FW we would have paid the lady her full asking price
NP), I think you would all agree that if the buyer is unaware of the
true value of an item, they have every right to try to get the item as
cheaply as possible.

I hope this clears up any misunderstandings that resulted from my
enthusiastic post.

Subject: FW gathering
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 1997 17:16:37 PDT

There is still time for anyone that wants to the Ann Arbor gathering to 
do so. Date is Sunday Aug 10. Meet at Anastasia's Sewing Shoppe in Ann 
Arbor Mi and we go from there, Because we have now a food co-ordinator 
we must know if your coming, Bob owner of the shoppe has also limited 
space at his home near by so please contact me with your RSVP. We will 
also be conducting FW Care workshops on Sat and Sun. you can E-mail me 
 for more information. See you in Ann Arbor. Nancy
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 1997 20:15:50 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Black Metal Parts

Hi All!

Just as a matter of interest, I noticed the black needle clamp on my 201
so I proceeded to look the machine over.  Here's what I found:
     Black needle clamp (but not the needle clamp screw)
     Black thumbscrew for the presser bar
     Black thumbscrew for the stitch length regularor
     Black bobbin winder tension disks (the little ones down on the
machine bed.
     Black bobbin winder shaft, and other small metal parts forming the
bobbin winder (I haven't the faintest idea what these would be called)

This machine is AK701736, DOB: 11/19/51.  I would assume that either
Singer had contracted for TONS of black metal parts during the war and
therefore was taking forever to use them up, OR at some point someone
decided that the black look was sleek and fashionable and so it was
deliberately kept around for a while.

Graham: I notice that your recent posts are short and succinct.  I hope
you are recuperating from your medical problem.  I'd offer to make you a
cup of tea to help you feel better, but we all know how you feel about
American tea ;>).....(Let's NOT start that again, I'm just trying to cheer him

Lydia in humid central Ohio, where we've had a lot of rain for the past
two days and the weather can't seem to decide between hot and muggy or
cool and muggy.

Date: Thu, 24 Jul 1997 19:35:17 -0500
Subject: wanted a featherweight machine

i am looking to purchase a singer featherweight machine, if you have any
information concerning the availability of such a machine please send me
that information


Date: Thu, 24 Jul 1997 21:38:04 -0700
Subject: VICTORIA Magazine article

Hi, all. This item may have already been noted on FWF, but I just got
around to my August '97 issue of Victoria Magazine and found on page 30
a delightful article on Charlotte Gaveau's shoppe TEA AND CHAPEAUX in
France. She combines a tea shop with a hat shop and tables are converted
treadle bases (pic). There is also a pic of a portable Singer (model 99
I think).  Check it out!  

I found another neat 128 Godzilla model 128 (shuttle) this week. Other
than that not too much going on. Quilting for a change of pace now that
the weather has turned cool at Cape Cod. From one day to the next, we go
from air conditioner weather to turning on the heat! Millie
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 1997 15:18:02 -0400
Subject: White FW

     I sent a note asking for the value of my FW a few weeks back.  I got 
     responses that put the value of my tan FW at about $350.  Well, I had 
     to pull it out of the box and play with it when I heard that, and 
     discovered it is really a pearl white machine.  It'd been several 
     months since it was out of the box and my memory must be 
     failing...full of sewing lint!  So, the question again.  For the WHITE 
     FW, C7, no accessories, what's the value?
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 1997 23:45:14 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: A Great Day...

Hi Feathers!
After lurking, or getting an education as I see it, for two months I now
feel like part of the Featherweight Collective.  My very first FW (AH)
arrived yesterday and now I understand everything that is discussed here. I
had read this list, searched every newspaper, surfed the Internet and asked
every person I know, hoping to find a machine. I finally located it online
in a California newspaper, posted by a person in Ohio.  The price was well
within budget and the former owner was happy to ship it to Arkansas. A smile
is firmly adhered to my face.

So to get off on the right foot, I have a question. Why is it that when I
begin sewing, depressing the pedal, the light goes out? 

Next, the instruction book I received was for a model 66-16. Does anyone
need this manual? Its a hair short of being absolutely perfect. Someone
marked it in a couple places. Perhaps swap for a 221 manual? Thanks to
ISMACS, I found their diagram on threading. Their site is a definite 10 on
the scale!

Thanks, glad to be here...Elaine
Date: Fri, 25 Jul 1997 07:19:33 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: 500A

Hi !

I need a zig zag foot for my Singer 500A "Rocketeer" machine.  Does anyone
have a foot that I can purchase?  Please....as I have a lot of the cams but
no zig zag foot to try all of these out with.

Thanks  Terri
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 97 19:37:57 UT
Subject: Puzzle Box

Is it possible that one of the FWF's that read this might be able to tell me 
where on the net I might be able to see the inside of a puzzle box, as to how 
the attachments are arranged and how many are suppose to come in it......and 
also what the average price might?
I would greatly appreciate it....Thanks

Date: Fri, 25 Jul 1997 09:57:13 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 7/20/97

Dear Fellow Feathers.
Thank you for all your responses regarding the nylon bag...Yes I do 
know about the Lyle's and their product is great, but the bag that I am 
looking for has a stifffer interior and a buckle to secure the feather 
to the bottom of the bag. I need this added protection as I fly with my 
bag a lot. I believe that the gentleman was at Vermont 2 or 3 yearts 
ago who had them...Maybe from Georgia or somwhere down SOuth. I will 
keep watching the mail...Thank you again, Maryjane
Date: Fri, 25 Jul 1997 11:16:16 EDT
Subject: FW, case and table

My mistake - to those feathers to whom I e-mailed the phone number of the woman
who has all of the above, I just found out I gave the wrong area code.  The
correct area code is 502.  It seems she lives about three feet outside the 606
area code which is my code.  I was only using the seven numbers she had given
me.  Sorry.
Date: Fri, 25 Jul 1997 12:38:33 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: elna Lotus

Hi Feathers!

I have finally found my Lotus and I like it very much.  Does anyone
have any tips on this machine?  Also  I would like sources for the additional
feet.  Thank you Susan

Right on Nancy - I agree with you absolutely!
Date: Fri, 25 Jul 1997 23:55:17 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: More on the New Home

Hi.  It's me again.

Hey, I was studing the diagrahm that was included with Charles Law's picture
of the New Home showing the under bed of the machine.  I did find some odd
parts in the drawer.  I discovered that i need to put back on the stitch
regulator thing.  It is a long 1/8th thick 4 inch long metal part that was
missing from the under bed and in the drawer.  When I put it on the machine
now will sew.  It makes a pretty good stitch too.  I can't wind a bobbin
because of the missing shiny round part...but I wound it on my Minnesota "a"
machine that is almost idenitcal.  Even the bobbin case is almost the same.

Thank you Charles Law for the wonderful web page.  I really did help me out!

Well 1 problem is solved.  Thanks for putting up with me.
Terri  We are putting up a pole barn tomorrow
in 90 degrees!!!!
Date: Fri, 25 Jul 1997 22:01:20 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: New Home treadle

Hi everybody,

I just got yet another treadle!  It is a New Home and looks just like the one
pictured on Charles Law's homepage (Link= newh_thr.jpg at www2.hawaii.edu).
 I't's got that metal strap on the top of the head (tension adjustment?).  I
have just discovered it is missing part of the bobbin winding mechanism.
 It's the silver disk shaped part.  Are these available anywhere?  Would
anyone help me to give an approximent date this machine was made?

I have some problems maybe someone can help me with:

1.  The thread post is broken off.  How should I replace this?
2.  The material does'nt advance between the feed dogs & presser foot when I
3.  It looks to have been repainted, although many years ago as the paint is
crazed but I can see impressions from where the decals are/were.  Is it
hopeless to try to restore it.  Anyway I can expose the decals if they are
4.  Are new decals being reproduced?
5.  Are you tired of all of my questions? :-)

I really fell in love with this machine and it's cabinet as it is so small
(coffin top) and the stand is of the "drop leaf" style made of walnut.  It
has only 2 drawers on the right side.  I can see shadows on the drawers where
there were once different knobs before.  I did find 1 of the knob sections in
the drawer that looks like a brass pressed embelishment that goes behind a
knob or something.  The other one is gone.
Most of the attachments are there stating the "New Home" logo on them.  Even
the key to lock the drawers and coffin top.

One more question and I promise to stop.
Does anyone have a good home remedy  for split fingers due to to much hand
quilting?  OUCH!

P.S.  Well wishes sent to Graham.  I hope you are feeling better.

Thanks everyone
Date: Sat, 26 Jul 1997 04:19:48 -0700
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 7/23/97

Hi all,

Traveled to Kalona, Iowa where a large group of Amish and Mennonite
have settled.  Thought some FW's and other sm's might be sighted.
Yes, indeed!

My DH spotted the first FW and brought me over to it.  It had the
lift out tray, moldy smell and truly needed someone to clean and
polish. Price $395 Since I had purchased 2 FW's in the previous
weeks at higher prices I was only "sighting" however, two very
nervous women were watching us and when I walked away the case
was grabbed by the clerk and big grins appeared on the faces of
the ladies.  Glad my DH saw all this!!  Talked to the women after 
they purchased it.  Told me prices in their area (Illinois) had been
escalating in previous months and now anything under $500 they purchase!

Spotted 7 (yes 7) FW's at a Mennonite farmstead called Kalona Kountry
Kreations (319) 656-5366.  All were priced at $425  Visited with the
owner and purchased from her Nancy Johnson-Srebro's new book. She
also closed the place and my DH and I visited with her longer taking
pictures of a chainstitch Eldridge treadle with butterfly pedal I will
try to identify and send info to her.  She said she never has any
trouble selling her FW's at that price.

It was also interesting to me how many dealers when I asked about
sm's asked me if I had a FW.  Seems like more and more the word is
getting out about our beloved beauties.

To:  Owners of a 201  Inside cover of McCall Style News (Nov 1937)
"I'm Tickled Pink!  ...traded my old treadle machine in for the 
grandest Singer made - the Singer Anniversary Model 201." "steadiest
electric" "a miracle machine" Included four pixs. Displayed in a
parlour cabinet.  Very Nice!

To:  Anyone needing a reason to purchase a Singer and has a DH frowning.
1897 Ad I purchased - Singer Sewing Machines - "Greatly aids domestic

To: Beckie in Eugene - Goodwill is a fun place to shop. A Model 500A
Rocketeer followed me home. Came w/manual, loaded attachment box and
the slant needle buttonholer. ($10)

To: Michal Ann re New Home  Do you have attachments. Sighted a loaded
black attachment box w "New Home" imprinted on top. Could easily pick
up for anyone wanting it. Think it was about $10

Date: Sat, 26 Jul 1997 08:04:30 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 7/23/97

In a message dated 97-07-26 06:41:16 EDT, you write:

>>Also, any suggestions on getting rid of the musty odor.  I can't make up
 my mind on whether I  like it or not (I kind of feel like old things
 should smell like that) but my husband is not happy with the smell
 (especially since I work on the machine at our dining room table!)

for your musty smell try two things, one set it in the sun (outside ) for
awhile which will help and secondly put in case, if you have and scrunch up
some newspapers and put inside.  This will help absorb the musty smell.  I
had four that were this way and a combination of the above helped     Good
Luck  Linda
Date: Sat, 26 Jul 1997 08:21:26 -0400
Subject: Touch and Sew

I had no idea that the Touch and Sew machines had a bad reputation until 
I began to read this list and I think it is not deserved. I had a 600E 
that I bought in 1965 in a large desk type cabinet for $250. I loved 
this machine but got rid of the cabinet early. This machine was a 
work-horse for 22 years and my only machine. I never had any trouble 
with it. I had to replace the foot control and motor but that could be 
expected for the amount of use it got. All the rest of the machine was 
still doing good when I gave it away. I have a 625 now that was given to 
me by a neighbor whos mother had died and none of them sewed. I replace 
the bobbin ring and it hums now without a bit of trouble. Does anyone 
know the different in a 600E and the 625..I cannot see any but since I 
do not have the 600E to compare them with I maybe forgetting 
something...I need the plastic plate to cover the bottom of this machine 
and it will be almost perfect. Can anyone help me locate this piece? I 
would sure appricate it.
Date: Sat, 26 Jul 1997 10:03:54 -0400
Subject: Sewing machine separation!

Dear Shannon
Have to tell you how much I saw myself in your response to Anne.  I
laughed until I had tears in my eyes.  Been there,  done that. . .but
you said it sooo well!  And no, I was not "bored silly" with your
wonderful instructions.  If any of you missed this gem, it was in the
7/23/97 FWF Digest.  on how to remove your machine wired into its

Wish I could be with you in San Diego. . .

Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 7/23/97
Date: Sat, 26 Jul 1997 07:35:52 -0700

Hi, Frish...

two thoughts.... first, I'd ask Chris down in Ga if he had one or
could give you the part number.  If you get the part number (screw is
probably common to several machines) you should be able to order it
from your regional Singer repair center.

Captain Dick
Date: Sat, 26 Jul 1997 10:06:07 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: 401 table

Hi Pat,
Her's the info on my 401 table.
It is similar to the FW table.  The legs are metal,  painted a light cocoa
color.  (Like the darker color of the 401.)  The 'skirt' around the table is
wood, painted the same color.  The top looks like plywood, a natural color.
 (pine? birch?)  The insert is shaped like the state of OK,   with an anemic
(very short) panhandle.  The insert is 7"x16 1/2" (the little panhandle adds
1 1/2"x3" at the top).  The panhandle opening accomodates the power cords.
 (I hope this is clear.)
FYI the table insert has a part # of T867625, and the braces that hold the
machine have a part # of 148121.
Hope this helps.
Date: Sat, 26 Jul 1997 10:56:03 +0000
Subject: SM Museum

To DFW area FWF's:  Hi Y'all!  I'm going to be in North Dallas (near 
Richardson) for a good portion of August.  I'm not going to have a 
lot of free time because I'm helping my family with a lot of stuff and 
going on visits to other family members.  BUT I am DYING to go to 
the SM Museum, and I thought I'd see if others wanted to either 
meet there or carpool for a group tour.  I haven't contacted the 
Museum yet because I wanted to find out how many people wanted 
to go and what would be a good date.

For me, Saturday, August 16, is the best date.  I could go Sat. the 
9th, but would prefer not to.  I'm open as to morning or afternoon.  
If you want to go, please contact me ASAP, so I can call the Museum 
and set things up.  Please let me know date/time preference and 
whether you'd want to carpool or meet there.

Starting Wed., Aug. 6, I will be traveling.  I'll have a pocket 
computer/organizer which does email, but it uses a stylus (pen) 
instead of a keyboard.  So any emails after this date will be SHORT.

Date: Sat, 26 Jul 1997 13:49:07 -0400 (EDT)
Subject:  FW and a Spartan

Hi Feathers,
This morning I called in to a radio station "yard Sale", and said what I was
looking for.  I immediately got three phone calls from people, one was a
Kenmore/  But the other two said they had singer portables- one had a case
and the other one didn't.  They each were asking $50.  So I went to see the
first one.  A very nice FW with AL serial number, case, original attachments
in box, six bobbins, a zigzagger, a walking foot and an original oil can.
 She had purchased it in 1954 or 1955.  

The only problem is that the screw on the top of the machine head has been
mangled, probably she had screwed it on too tight and then couldn't get it
loosened.  Any suggestions on how to have this screw removed without doing
damage to the black paint so I can oil and lubricate.  I oiled and lubed the
rest of it and it sews very, very quietly and makes a beautiful stitch>.

The second machine turned out to be a Spartan. Beautiful shape- no scratches.
 Did these ever have a top part of a case to keep the dust off of them.  This
one just has the plastic box-base.  This machine has the brandname "Spartan"
across the front of the head and on the top of the head, it says, "The Singer
Manufacturing Comp[any, Made in Great Britain".  I have not found the serial
number yet, as I have not opened this one up yet.  Does anyone have an idea
about the year this might have been mfg?   Thanks for all the great info I
get from everyone on this site.

Date: Sat, 26 Jul 1997 12:57:07 -0500
Subject: Handcranks and slow pedals

I want to thank all the feathers who emailed me with information
about converting my portable 99K to a handcrank for my 6-year-old
daughter.  Several people mentioned "A Stitch Back In Time", at
1-800-352-1174.  A year-old catalog lists a handcrank at $11.50;
however, my 99K has a solid wheel instead of a spoked wheel, so
I would need the spoked wheel/handcrank package which was listed
at $27.50.  (The motor needs to be removed, as the handcrank mounts
where the motor is currently mounted.)

Howsomever, I am now very interested in Graham's comment that a
pedal can be adjusted to sew only at slow speed.  This way my daughter
could use both hands to guide the fabric!  The foot control on my
99K is the button type, similar to the ones on my fw's.

I would really appreciate it if someone who knows how to make this
adjustment would post directions for doing it.  I'm not particularly
mechanically inclined but DH is, and this would be both the least
expensive and most useful route to go for my daughter's sewing

Date: Sat, 26 Jul 97 13:31 EDT
Subject: 215G

A confession:  I have now become a collector rather than a user of sewing
machines.  Today I bought a sewing machine I have absolutely no (nein) use
for simply because it was so interesting and cheap too.  It is a 215G, a
German machine, and it is so interesting I just could not pass it up.  I
think it my be from the late 50's to early 70's vintage.  I know
absolutely nothing about it, so if any of you have any information about
this machine I would certainly appreciate hearing.

It came in a celery green suitcase.  When you open the suitcase upright
the machine rolls out on a piece of wood fitted with rollers on a track.
The machine is painted like a 301 in beige with a striated face plate.  It
is fitted to also be a treadle, and it has this really nifty light that
can swivel all over that is fitted on the left side of the front/top of
the machine.  The machine is in a wood base. It is a forward and backward
machine with no zigzag.  The stitch length is marked in metric, I think.
The feed dogs can drop. There are two boxes(also in celery green suitcase
material which slide into and out of  holders inside the suitcase.  One
contains the foot pedal and cord.  The other contains a
wooden box.  Inside the wooden box was a metal hinged box (green with
Singer painted on it) that contains the attachments for the machine and
two screwdrivers, plus the manual which is all in German.  If you take the
wooden box, close it, you can hook this wooden box on to the left side of
the machine for more sewing space.  The machine came with a quilter
(wattierer), saumer, and kapper.  Saumer and kapper are hemmers, I think.
It also came with a Singer needle threader, darning foot (cool), and seam

When I came home with my sewing machine I didn't know what to expect from
DH, but he most obligingly put on Bach while I tinkered with the machine.
I think I will call her Hilda(garde) after a friend of my mother's who was
very kind to me when I was growing up.

So, I confess, this is a machine I simply "collected" for its interest.  I
have gone over the edge with the rest of you.  It's great
to have company.  "Elveidersein!" (spelling)

Date: Sat, 26 Jul 1997 17:52:00 -0400
Subject: RE:Feet FW..frish

You may want to try the "Spigot" washers found in the plumbing section 
of the local hardware store. Measure the 'size on the base' to get the
diameter and make sure the hole is large enough to accept the short screw..
I think I had to split them because they were to thick :-)

Now....to prevent this in the future; cut a thick piece of cardboard,
or two thickness of standard cardboard, the size of the inside of the 
bottom of the case. Cut a small square from each of the corners (about
This should allow the FW-base to set in the case without putting any 
pressure on the grey-pads(feet).
Someone may have a source for the originals, I'll look for the post
from last year; but this will keep from any damage to your table top.

Date: Sat, 26 Jul 1997 19:21:26 -0700
Subject: portable elna

Recently I purchased an elna sewing machine that is in a metal case, with 
 a knee petal and zig zag capabilities.  I have not found any information
about this machine.
Date: Sat, 26 Jul 1997 18:02:12 -0400
Subject: 221 Restoration

I've embarked on an ambitious 221 total restoration project than began with
a simple touch-up and now the machine sit's completely disasembled.  This
221 while in excellent operating condition the finish was dull dirty looking
with major crackling and no matter what I used it could not be brought back
to it's original condition.

I would like to hear from someone who maybe has stripped the japan finish
off one of these machines, how they went about it, what they used.  I want
to be sure I don't damage the aluminum.  I hope once this step is complete I
then can have a professional paint shop apply new paint and then begin the
search for new decals or have a graphics shop reproduce these.  Any
suggestions will be greatly appreciated.  If interested on watching the
progress of this project I will be in the next couple of weeks adding a
section to my homepage devoted to this restoration.

Date: Sat, 26 Jul 1997 17:36:04 -0700
Subject: 201

Hi Feathers. In the paper I saw an Antigue Sewing machine advertised. So
checking it out I found a 201-2 ( about a 7 needs cleanup) in a cabinet.
The cabinet needs some TLC But is decent. It came with a 128-23 manual.
Why who knows? So I need a 201 manual or a copy. Can someone help. TIA.
Paid $50 for it.
	Anytime any of you happen to be traveling Hwy 101 on the Central Calif.
Coast we would enjoy having you give us a call and drop by for a
visit.   Jack
Date: Sat, 26 Jul 1997 21:21:37 -0400
Subject: Puzzle boxes

Thank you to Captain Dick and Claudette for
sharing info on Puzzle Boxes.  Now I will keep my eye out for them as
they look like something
I would like to have.
Date: Sat, 26 Jul 1997 21:19:39 -0700
Subject: Tables- the continuing saga

"Rebecca, I hope this doesn't sound insulting, but have you tried
putting your FW into this table?  (As background, I thought a table I
have had for my MIL for weeks was for a 401 until I tried a machine
in it.  Then I found it is for a short bed 301. : >)  The cutout on these
tables fit the ENTIRE machine, extension bed and all, not just the
base.  So the cut out for a FW table is 17.5" x 7 3/8"  The brackets
fit just the base of the machine and are about the dimensions you

This is how I found out my table is NOT for the FW!  I've been using one 
table, with my black FW in it for quite a while now. The table in 
question needed some "facelift" work on it, and when dh finished that, we 
put it in the sewing room, and I promptly set my little white FW down 
into it - with the fold down extension of the machine in the down 
position there was still enough room for a cat to fall through the 
opening to the left of it! We then tried the 301A, which is too long for 
it! Someone has suggested I try a shortbed 301, and I'm willing, if 
someone would like to offer one, or is willing to trade, as I stated in 
the last FWF newsletter.
  I am determined to find the machine this table was made for - if only 
to then find the owner of the machine who would like to buy the table!
In the meantime, with insert in, my 301A is sitting atop the table, 
awaiting my next quilt top to be quilted.
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 97 04:30:03 UT
Subject: Wooden sewing chairs

I have some wooden sewing chairs in various sizes, and I agree, I think they 
were a popular woodworking project for Scouts, Tech classes, etc.  There seem 
to be a lot of them around, and if fact I got to an auction last night, just 
as one was being sold.  Another popular woodworking project was the Stairway 
to the Stars - a wooden cresent moon with a stairway on it for knick-knacks.  
The "girls" project was a sewing chair made out of cardboard and covered in 
batting and material.  It was like a giant pin cushion, with a seat that 
lifted up for storing stuff. I can remember making them as a kid.
My SM, TSM collection is growing by leaps and bounds, and am almost looking 
forward to cooler weather, when I will have more time to clean up my machines, 
and find them a spot in my home, besides just sitting in the garage.
Hemmed a dress with my "new"  handcrank the other night.  It works 
beautifully, but I kept wanting to move my feet!
Date: Sat, 26 Jul 1997 22:37:30 -0500
Subject: 201, 201K & 1200

HappySocks was asking about the difference of all these.  We have at least
one of each.  The 201K was manufactured in Great Britain.  The light is in
back.  It is belt driven motor.  It has a solid black hand wheel with gold
paper clip design on base and numbered tension dial.  This one is in a queen
anne style cabinet.  It has the foot pedal up inside where you press on it
with the knee thing.  We also have a 201-2.  It has a light in front and the
switch for the light is near the cord connector.  It has a striated face
plate and same gold paper clip design on base and numbered tension.  It has
the enclosed motor-direct gear driven.  This one is in a desk type with
metal bar near the floor to step on.  Our 1200 has the same motor.  It has
the treadle type foot to make it go.  It has a knee lift for the pressor
bar.  It has a light in front with the switch near the cord connector.  This
one has chrome on the edge of the hand wheel.  This machine is solid black,
no designs except for scrolled face plate.  We also have a 1200 head only
that has the holes for the knee lift but it was in a case.  Rachel

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