Featherweight Fanatics Archives

November 1997

Sunday, November 16 - Saturday, November 22

Date: Sun, 16 Nov 1997 09:22:24 +0000
Subject: New FW

To Gail,

It was one of these new "freearm" zig-zag Featherweights which 
I bought in auction by mistake. Made in Taiwan, looks like a food 
processor, sounds like someone shaking a bag of Scrabble tiles!

Date: Sun, 16 Nov 1997 08:01:08 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Unlurking with a special request

I have been on the list for several months and have learned so much from all
of you.  Thanks so much for sharing all your questions, knowledge and wisdom.

Regarding my special request.  I was taking part in a quilt block swap when
the flooding in Grand Forks occurred.  This generous group of people worked
together to make a quilt to donate to someone in the Grand Forks area who may
have lost everything.  Unbelievably, one of the people on the swap had
cousins in Grand Forks who had been affected.  This quilter lost everything -
fabric stash, notions, sewing machine, etc.  The son who corresponded with us
indicated he wasn't even sure his mother was going to get another sewing

A quilter without a sewing machine?  I couldn't let that go by me!  Thus, my
special request.  Is anyone on this list so moved to donate a special machine
for this quilter?    I have an old Kenmore purchased in the '60's which is
rather beat up and gathering dust which I am willing to donate.  However, I
think she deserves a much better machine, like a FW or another type of
Singer.  This family's loss has been so great.

If you are interested in donating a machine, please e-mail me.  I will put
you in touch with the family.  Thanks so much!

Date: Sun, 16 Nov 1997 08:06:19 -0600
Subject: Maggie 

I just recently purchased the identical 201 machine and cabinet that
your friend gave you.  The original sales flyer was still in the cabinet
along with pictures of other cabinets and which machine heads they were
for.  Your cabinet is Singer Cabinet  # 42.  The flyer states that the
#42 cabinet was made exclusively for the Deluxe 201-2, which I thought
that was what my head was but Singer Co. informed me that it was just a
201.  The word "just" is Singers word, not mine. :-) !
The little glass ink well was in it but it's missing the screw on cap.
I will see if I can get this flyer photocopied, it's a fold out so might
have to do it in several different sheets.  It also came with a
buttonholer and extra bobbins and a book (no cover) on the "Hemstitcher
and Picot Edger" attachment.  I am interested in purchasing that
attachment if anyone has one for sale.

Date: Sun, 16 Nov 1997 12:01:37, -0500
Subject: FW Fanatics 11/14/97

I was really impressed with Captain Dick's story about the girl who 
raised chickens and bought the sewing machine. It is so refreshing in 
this day and age to hear about a young person who is not caught up in 
the rebelious (sp?) times of today, and is involved in wholesome 
healthy things. And isn't it great that people like Cap't Dick are 
there to help them? Sure would like to hear more stories like this!
Date: Sun, 16 Nov 1997 12:11:21 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Singer Walking Foot

Pat  was asking if there was a walking foot for the Singer 301.  In the 1970's Singer had one that could be used for all the slant-needle machines.  They called it the Even-Feed Foot.  I couldn't find a part number on the attachment, but in the booklet, the illustration had the caption Style C-400.  It
may still be available at a Singer dealer, or some dealer may
have one tucked away in the back of a parts drawer.

The Clotilde catalogue (Louisiana, MO) has a walking foot for
Singer slant needle machines for $14, and I think Nancy's 
Notions might also.

Date: Sun, 16 Nov 1997 17:17:07 -0800
Subject: Information Wanted

Hi: Recently purchased an Electric Willcox & Gibbs Machine in a VERY 
HEAVY wooden case with attachments, serial #A696354. Having a problem 
with the stitches collecting on the little wheel underneath the plate. 
How do I adjust this?? 
Aso have a Free-Westinghouse, model 8-F, brown rough finish portable,
with attachments and instruction book. Excellent condition.(9)         
Does anyone know anything about these machines reference age and value??
I am new at collecting compared to some of you, only have 3 FW and one 99 
so far and love them all.
Date: Sun, 16 Nov 1997 16:56:08 -0500
Subject: Unidentified Card Table

Hi Feathers:
I need your help.  I got two card tables from a lady in S. Illinios.  
One is a FW table and the second is a bigger table, blonde in colour with metal 
legs.  It measures  31 1/4 X 31 1/4 and has a cutout measuring 7 1/4 X 
21.  The cut out is a double lumper compared to the FW table which is 
only a single lump and the 301 tables that I've seen are true 
rectangles.  This table has metal hangers that the machine rests on and 
has a part no. 148121 Simico.  Any help would be appreciated.


Date: Sun, 16 Nov 1997 18:27:25 -0500
Subject: Harris No. 9

To Graham and anyone else who can help,
	I have found a Harris No. 9.  It is a handcrank, appears to drop into a
treadle base, but the treadle isn't with it.  The machine is in
condition 9, as is it's case (I swear).  Every decal is perfect, all
chrome and paint is bright.  The lid is a squarish coffin top, key
included.  It has a long bobbin.  Is this machine considered rare or
hard to find?  I haven't been able to find any information about the
company who made this German machine.  Any help on this would be
appreciated.  I need some bargaining power.

Date: Sun, 16 Nov 1997 18:33:36 -0600
Subject: Odor

I finally found a Singer Featherweight!  YEA!!  The only drawback is it
has an antique odor to the box and machine.  I've cleaned it up and
tried to clean the cord as best as I could.  I think the previous owner
was a heavy smoker.  I have a dish of baking powder in the box at the
moment.  It has helped some.  Any suggestions?

Date: Sun, 16 Nov 1997 20:07:05 -0500 (EST)
Subject: The 'new' Featherweights...

  I have seen several questions lately about the "new" Singer Feather weight
machines.  Let me see if I can provide some info.  The "new" FW machines are
Singer Model 100 machines.  They are a white plastic machine with a free-arm.
 Six stitches are available: straight, 3 set widths of zig-zag, mending, and
blind hem.  Buttonholes can be done by combining the various zig-zag stitches
in sequence.  There is also a reverse lever.  The machine has a rabbit/turtle
speed control switch.  One odd feature is that the foot control switch is
just an on/off switch.  (You do not control the speed of the machine by how
far you push down the pedal - it's either running or stopped.)  These
machines are light weight, have a carry handle built in on the top and come
in a box without any type of case.
  Comparing this to the old 221's is like comparing apples and oranges.  The
new machines do provide a basic machine that is portable and not intimidating
(like for a child to start on)... but they don't sew like an old
   In our NY area, the new FW's retail at around $200.  The new FW is a major
step up from Singer's other modern small portable the "Tiny Tailor Sewing
Machine" which retails here around $50.  (That one is not much more than an
oversized toy.)   A local dealer described the Singer 100 as "A Featherweight
in name only" and  I agree.
Date: Sun, 16 Nov 1997 21:06:34 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Santa Fe prices

Hi all,
$600 seems to be the asking price for FWs in Santa Fe.  Last spring when we
were there, and before (?) I got on this list we started looking for FWs.  We
found an ad for an estate/garage sale that had one listed.  We got there
early along with a few other people, but left when we found out the asking
price.  I didn't see what condition the machine was in. There was another
woman looking also & she said that she had passed one up for much less some
time before.  She didn't  buy then either. Hmmm. Maybe we should have gone
back at the end of the day to see if it was still there.
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 11/12/97
Date: Sun, 16 Nov 1997 21:18:50 -0500

Susan, I've copied an old message I had saved about the carrying cases for
FWs.  Did you have any trouble at the airport with inspections, etc?  For
example, did they  make you plug it in like they do computers?  I have a
little Elna Lotus that folds up and makes its own case, and a FW.  Which do
you think would be best for taking on the plane?  Appreciate your advice.

     A'Bout   800-441-9168   P.O. Box 2294, Mt. Pleasant, TX 75456

I'll describe it in detail, so you can see why I like it.  It's a very
sturdy case made of nylon packcloth.  It has foam padding on all sides,
dense foam about 1/2 inch thick.  There's a strong piece of masonite
inserted in a pocket on the bottom, to support the machine.  There are 
both a shoulder strap and a pair of handles on the top.  The webbing for 
these straps goes all the way around the bottom of the bag.  The zipper opens 
the top and one side of the bag.  There's a nylon webbing strap attached to 
the bottom on the inside of the bag, which goes up around the bed of the
machine and fastens with Velcro.  You can also leave the machine in its
regular case, and put the case inside the bag, if you like.

Date: Sun, 16 Nov 1997 16:47:01 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 11/13/97

Jodi - As early as 1891 (and probably earlier) Singer made left-handed
machines, but these were for specialized industrial use.

On another note - did anyone know that Singer made "bridge table covers"
for the Featherweight card tables? A 1943 ad states "in lovely-patterned
quilted chintzes or rayon taffeta, from $1.25 up." Or you could get a 
"water repellent rayon moire for $2." 

Happy Featherweighting,
Date: Sun, 16 Nov 1997 21:36:33 -0700
Subject: Frank Smith's Sale

Barbara  asked about Frank Smith's Sale at his Museum

I went by there Saturday morning (Nov. 8) and there were lots of sewing
machines, parts, etc.  Most things were not priced and lots of sewing
machines had bid sheets by them with starting prices higher than I wanted to
pay.  I did buy a little green General Electric that looks similar to a FW.
Not many people there around 10:00 to 11:00 when I was there.  Went on to
visit my grandson and his parents.  Returned to Frank's museum on Sunday
around noon.  It was raining, sewing machines were covered with plastic, and
no one was there.  Frank came out from his apartment and we chatted a few
minutes.  Apparently he sold a few machines on Saturday.  He was aware by
then that the prices were higher than most folks wanted to pay.

When I pay hundreds of dollars for a sewing machine, I want it to look good,
sew well, have original manual, attachments and oil can.

I do enjoy visiting his museum and chatting (for hours) but can't afford to
be a customer too often. 

Subject: Alphasew foot
Date: Sun, 16 Nov 1997 23:48:28 -0500

Are there different "Alphasew" feet? The ones I've seen described here are
all-metal, 1/4 inch on the right and 1/8 inch on the left. The one we have,
purchased from a Singer shop about a month ago, is all-plastic, and 1/4 inch
on both sides. What gives? The whole reason we weren't too crazy about the
Little Foot is the fact that it was only 1/8 inch on the left side, and
wouldn't quite cover the feed dog, and the reason we are so happy with the
Alphasew is that it IS 1/4 inch on BOTH sides. Did they recently redisign it
and make it worse? Or do we have the newer model? Or, perhaps, is there more
than one company using the name Alpasew?

Dazed and confused,
Clay & Shelly 
Date: Sun, 16 Nov 1997 21:08:47 -0500
Subject: fw case

i have seen it all now i had a repair guy come to my house this week and
he was carring his tool in a fw case.i said do you know what that so
called tool box is he said oh yes i think they make an ideal tool
kit.needles to say i offered to buy him a proper tool kit if he would
give me the case .he said he was quite happy using that one and went on
his way.all ican think how stupid he is. thats
life.                       evelene
Date: Sun, 16 Nov 1997 16:39:07 -0600
Subject: auction

Hi all,
Went to my first auction today because they had a featherweight listed.
I think everyone was there for the same reason!  The machine in question
was in very poor condition and the case even worse.>sigh  I would
gladly have taken it home and got her all fixed up but when the bidding
shot to over the $300 mark I resigned myself to the fact I didn't want
it that bad so I left empty handed.  Oh well, there will be others.
Date: Sun, 16 Nov 1997 22:50:03 -0900


Was just looking through the December issue of Quilters Newslatter magazine
and saw an ad for new, 1/4 inch marked, footplates for Featherweights.
Thought you's be interested!

Happy hunting!

Subject: Calendar Idea; Oiling Futura; Chrome Fabric; Portman
Date: Sun, 16 Nov 97 14:38:18 -0500

Today I happened upon a needlework site on the web which so intrigued me
that I promptly forgot to bookmark it.  The old brain needs a bit of Singer
lube. Anyway, someone got the brilliant idea to copy onto the site an old J
& P Coats 1890 Trade Card which included a calendar for that year.  The
whole idea was that you could download the trade card w/calendar, print on a
color printer and use it for 1997 because 1890 & 1997 calendars were
identical.  I actually printed it out but unfortunately the url did not show
up on either page nor did the company's logo. [I find this frequently on
free quilt and x-stitch patterns I download so people with homepages may
want to include their logo/url on each and every page and not depend on it
printing at the bottom.]

What I now wonder is, would	 any of you with sewing trade card collections
and a website, like to figure out if the 1891 calendar is the same as 1998? 
( .................Now is where I begin to beg............) Then, would you
scan in any and all cards, each with picture and calendar, onto your website
so that FWF's with color printers could then print out, laminate and make
ourselves a beautiful, historical calendar? I guess this is asking way too
much since I haven't a clue about websites, scanners, and what all this
would entail but maybe, just maybe, someone will run with the idea.  

OR.....perhaps there is a trade card website that has already done this?
Anyone know of any?
Barbara asked about what to do with a self-oiling Futura.  A fellow
FWF friend and I were just discussing this because we have self-oiling
Singer 6268s.  After 11 yrs. I thought mine certainly needed servicing even
though it still runs like a charm.  My friend asked her local Singer man and
he said all they do is wipe off the machine, clean out the bobbin area, etc.
and do not do a thing to the inside of the works.  Years ago I was told
these machines must go to an authorized factory -- not just to a local
guy/gal.  Anyone have any other input on this??
Wilma: I would love to hear more about the chrome face plate fabric.
Shirley  I hate to bring up a sore subject, but if ANY of you ever
get your Sincere books, on page 213 of the Sincere's History there is a
photo of the Portman Portable Sewing Machine circa 1948. Says it was
manufactured by the Portman Mfg Co from New Rochelle, NY, "a new innovation
with a free arm for mending...". The one-page article mainly describes the
machine's features. 

Date: Sun, 16 Nov 1997 22:12:00 -0500
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 11/14/97

Hi Feathers,

I wanted to share with you a book I found today in an antique shop.  Its
title is "The Mary Brooks Picken Method of MODERN DRESSMAKING"  by Mary
Brooks Picken, Dressmaking Editor, Pictorial Review.  It was published
by the Pictorial Review Company, New York City, and copyrighted in
1925.  There is a full page picture of Mary on Page 2.  On page 9 are
two pictures of a woman sitting at a modern electric sewing machine in a
cabinet that looks like a Singer cabinet except for is stretcher base. 
The cabinet's top opens in the middle and just the leaf to the left has
a support.  The machine has a small fly wheel, a light in the back, and
a small round motor (with a circular emblem) mounted on the "elbow" of
the sewing machine arm. There is no visible belt nor is the upper
tension on the end of the machine.  What kind of sewing machine do you
think this is?  The pictures only show the back of the sewing machine.
Would Mary have used a non-Singer?  

Subject: 99 Bobbin Tension
Date: Sun, 16 Nov 1997 21:23:36 -0500

Hi All:
I need some suggestions on adjusting the tension on my daughter's
99.  I've tightened the screw on the bobbin case base as much as
I can and I still am seeing bobbin thread from the top of the work.
??  What else can I try?

Also, still wondering how to match a loose bobbin case to its
rightful machine?  Do I need parts lists for all "common" Singers?
Seems this info would be collected in one place....

My most recent purchase was a 185J, bought from a charming
85 year old man, for $85.  The symmetry didn't strike me until
later.  He threw in 40 spools of thread, of varying vintages and
a gooseneck lamp. Is it safe to use older, decent thread in a humid 
climate?  Does it decay with age/exposure?  TIA.  Lin 
Subject: children on treadles
Date: Sun, 16 Nov 1997 22:27:33 -0600

 >Re kids and machines... was interested in the comment about the
>treadle, as I gave that some thought on my walk yesterday.   Was
>wondering about smaller kids ability to reach the treadle with their
>shorter legs... any comments.   Absent that problem, obviously, the
>treadle would be a good and "fun" choice.

Capt. Dick--my personal experience with treadles is that I learned to sew on
one as a PRESCHOOLER  I was 4 or 5 and would sit/lean on the front edge of
the chair while treadling.  Mom let me run scrap fabric through to get the
hang of it.  This spring I got to bring that same machine home with me--it
was made in 1924 and bought by my  grandmother before she married.  When my
mother married (her only daughter) Grandma gave her the machine.  It was the
only machine my mom used until she got a Kenmore electric in the late 60's
or so.  It is a 5 drawer treadle cabinet--plain no carving and houses a 66
Redeye.  Decals are shower their silver undercoat and it isn't in great
shape--I have another 66 Redeye that is in great shape--but I won't take
this head out of it's cabinet because it is special.  Cabinet was stored in
a damp basement for years so I am slowly restoring it--a labor of love.

My other experience with a child--besides my own who learned on my 1975
Kenmore is an 8 year old daughter of a friend who I taught to sew on one of
my 15's with a knee controller--she has short legs and likes that she
doesn't have to stretch her legs to reach the pedal.

Ah memories!
Date: Sun, 16 Nov 1997 14:19:32 -0500 (EST)
Subject: My good fortune!!

This is the first time I've written, but couldn't wait to crow!!  I recently
stopped by a yard sale - 1:00 in the afternoon, figured everything would be
gone.  And there it was - a Featherweight, in a perfect case, all
attachments, including a buttonholer (green case) and the manual.  The
attachments even had their original box.  And I got it
for..................drum roll...............$25.00.  The lady thought she
had the table - would look and let me know.

I feel like I've won the lottery!!

Date: Sun, 16 Nov 1997 21:06:34 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 11/14/97

In a message dated 97-11-16 06:55:31 EST, you write:

>> The girl, whose name was McKenna Gill (neat  name) made a quilt of farm animal applique blocks and showed it to  me.   

Capt. Dick,
Enjoyed your story.  I wonder if McKenna was named for the character in the
movie Somewhere In Time which starred Christopher Reeve & Jane Seymore?  It's
our favorite.  We recently got back from a Somewhere In Time weekend at the
Grand Hotel, Mackinac Island, MI.  We had a great time.  It's a great event
for those who are into heirloom sewing--a chance to make fussy clothes a la
1912 & dress up.
Grand Hotel has a web site & so does I.N.S.I.T.E. (International Network of
Somewhere In Time Enthusiasts).  They said that a lot of children have been
named  after the characters.
Date: Fri, 14 Nov 1997 15:54:15 +0000
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 11/13/97

Does anyone have any information on a Western Electric machine. My friend got 
one as a gift from her daughter and would like some history on the machine.  
Also, if anyone has a manual that also would be appreciated....It is a real 
nice machine...in a bentwood case with Western Electric decal on the case.  
The machine also has the Western Electric Mark. Any help would be 

Date: Sun, 16 Nov 1997 17:26:22 -0600
Subject: Elna rebadging

Chris said:

>For  Shirley,  re:  Portman...  Elna  must  have  re-badged machines for ther 
>companies,  as  I  have  seen  an  Elna  Grasshopper painted a light grey with 
>Montgomery  Ward (MW) stenciling. And a friend has an Elna Lotus in JC Penny's 

I'm not so sure Elna made these...  I've got one of the JC Penney
Lotus-like machines, and I've seen one of the MOnkey Ward models, too. 
The JC Penney machine was made in Japan, according to what is stamped
inside the housing, and there are some differences in the fold-up
panels.  My theory is that there was a Japanese manufacturer cloning the
popular (and more expensive) Elna machines, and selling them to some of
the US department stores for rebadging.  

My Lotus clone is a really cool little machine, though, just the same...

Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 07:45:31 -0500
Subject: FW Find and question on old Kenmore

I finally found my first FW at a large weekly flea market.  My heart 
almost stopped when I saw the machine sitting on the table.  The 
price was reasonable and I was able to see it run.  Turns out it is a 
1941 vintage with a case that has a bit of wear on the corners and 
handles.  The inside bottom of the case seems to be missing.  It has 
attatchments, a like new book, and no musty smell.  The machine 
has a few pin scratches, intact decals and runs well.  The only 
problem I have is the light bulb is loose and flickers.  

I have my Grandmother's old Kenmore Rotary (40's) that I do most of my
sewing on.  It is a real workhorse.  Could anyone tell me if 
there are darning/embroidery attatchments that would fit these old 
machines and where I could find out about them?  Thank you.  Love 
this list.

Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 08:12:20 -0800
Subject: tables

Where do I find more information about the featherweight tables, stools 
and chairs?
Date: Sun, 16 Nov 1997 22:26:17 -0700
Subject: White Rotary

I saw a White Rotary this weekend for $59.  It has a wooden case in good
condition.  The flywheel turns freely until the needle goes down, then
it's very sticky until it comes up again.  Can anyone give me any advise
about this machine and whether it is worth anything or not?

Thanks for your help.

Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 18:52:38 -0600
Subject: Free Sewing Machine

I've recently acquired a Free Sewing Machine, Serial #CE53788 with a
complete set of attachments (although rusty) including both screwdrivers, a
stiletto, needles, oil can, manual, etc.  It is electric and came in a
beautiful cabinet which I've identified as a No. 251 Console Two-Tone
Walnut, as seen on ISMAC's at http://www.ismacs.net/free/fly1.html.  It came
with a "Guarantee Bond" dated 8-23-1926, but the serial # on this warranty
paper was for a machine numbered CE(E?)4473.  It says "Free Sewing Machine
Co."  on the arm near the bobbin winder, "The Free" across the arm, and
"Westinghouse Electric" on the bed where the decals that look like 8's are
(among others).  The decals are perfect and depict what looks like an
Egyptian-type urn.  Others I've seen have a bird design.  It is electric
with top-clamping attachments which both remind me of my White Family
Rotary, although this motor turns kind of counter-clockwise on an axis to
release it from the wheel, rather than tilting away.
NOW...for my questions!  Can anyone date this machine or tell me how (or is
1926 a good date)?  Also, I need to replace the motor pulley (the rubber is
down to the metal!).  Anyone have one?  But, I cannot seem to remove the old
one.  When I loosen (or remove) the set screw (like on my White), it doesn't
slide off!  It doesn't seem gunked up but feels like something is holding it
back.  Am I doing something wrong?  I didn't want to force it too hard.
Thanks for any help.  I'd really like to get this machine running.
P.S.  I'm having serious e-mail problems so I may not receive and/or respond
right away!
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 22:28:19 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 10/28/97

In a message dated 97-11-01 08:32:33 EST, you write:

>> Okay, so how *do* you remove the bobbin thread from the case?  Seems to 
 me backwards is the only way the thread will come out, unless (light is 
 dawning here) you carefully remove the bobbin, leaving the thread in the 
 slot, then cut the thread, then pull the thread frontwards.... is this 
 the right way? >>

I don't know if anyone responded to this.  According to Hans, the chief
technician at Bernina, you should cut the thread near the case so not so much
thread is pulled thru it when removing the bobbin. I guess it lessens the
chance of bending something or getting thread caught where it shouldn't.
Gail R.
Subject: New E-mail
Date: Fri, 14 Nov 1997 23:58:28 -0600

I can't believe I did that! Forgot to give you our new E-mail address. I
will do that after my signature tonight. I did want to let you know I
acquired a couple of FW this last week. One kept coming back to DH because
the lady was definitely not mechanically inclined. The last time it came in
their was thread stuck in the bobbin area, not even behind the gib. She is
a sewer and all she wanted it for was some general sewing which many of  us
do on our FW, but she certainly must have been doing something wrong
because it sews fine for us, anyway we traded a 99 and some $$ for this
1952 beauty. 
The other one came from a gal that we've known a long time and she needed a
FAX line installed so she wondered if DH would put in the wiring and to
make sure that all worked well and we could have the this is a 1941 with
the black face plate and accessories.  Sounded good to me to say the least.
To think I had opted to stay home from a very cold auction sale that
advertised a FW to have one of these ladies call me that very night and the
other one the following night. 
We were lucky enough to to have Gene and Ruby post join us for the day and
they brought tan 20 from Terri Janson that we had done for a 201. Thanks
for a nice visit and for the delivery you two.
Some time back I requested some slides for a lecture to a Quilt guild. Gary
Wacks came to my rescue and I am happy to say every one seemed happy with
the presentation. Sorry this so long. Make a note of the new E-Mail
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 00:17:25 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Singer Model 99K Clone

Hi Feathers!

I found out a little more about the sm I found 2 days ago....the Compac made
by Precision SM Company....It's the same (right down to the last nut &
bolt)as my 99K.
Says made in Japan,but on the label the Precision SM Company is listed as USA
made (confusing). Anyone know anything about this machine? TIA  

  Thank you GWillie 37 for this sm!!!!! For you folks who haven't dealt with
GWillie37@aol.com.....he's the "Greatest"! He can find almost anything & he's
a nice guy too!!!!

Found a couple parts & pieces for my 500 & 503 today...extra spool
pin,"special purpose foot",straight stitch foot & a #19 cam. Have a lead on
some more cams for these machines & hope to find out more in the next couple

Mpls Feathers...don't forget to let  us know if you are coming to Holiday For
Minneapolis Feathers on Dec.13th at 11:30 AM. e-mail to Susan  at

Happy SM Hunting!!!

Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 11/15/97
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 19:04:02 -0000

For Paul - information on a Taylor-Bird Machine.

Taylor-Bird were based in Sandwich, Kent (South East England) and
manufactured machines from the end of World War Two until liquidation in
One lock stitich machine was contained in a combined carrying case and work
The pictorial trademark depicts a bird sewing together two leaves to form a

Hope that helps a little - its all I have.

Date: Wed, 08 Oct 1997 23:56:45 -0700
Subject: (no subject)

Dear Fanatics,

I have recently inhereted a Singer treadle machine from my mother and I
have been trying to trace down its origins and b-day with some success.
What I have compiled so far is that it could be either a 66 or a 127.
It has the floral design on the machine itself but it does'nt have a
design in the middle of the table. I'm confused! The end plate is floral
design as well, the same as the front. It also has a light on the back
attached to a round plate on the right side. According to the info I
have gathered the light didn't get used until 1948. Unless it was an
option that could be used later. It is seting in a 7 drawer cabinet, I
think it is a model no.6. I have seen it in the "Online Antique Sewing
Machine Resource Page" (very helpful). It has kind of a badge look on
the drawers and beads along the middle drawer. the ends have work on
them also. I would be very thankful to here from you if you have any
better, more in depth information on this subject. (you come highly
recomended from quite a few sites as being the "Guru's" in sewing
machines). Also, my father in-law has dug up two machines that maybe you
could shed some light on. The first is a New Home portable. We looked
for a model no. but the only thing we could find was on the bottom of
the table, it read ABL 201. I hope that is helpful. Also the right side
has two stickers or medals reading something about an exposition, (maybe
France's I'm not sure).
The other is a Sewmor. The only thing that we could find out is that it
was made in Japan. If you could point us in the right direction we could
pursue these machines further. 

P.S. I forgot to tell you my serial no. The first letter is hard to make
out but I think it might be an H. the rest reads 1556930. Also were they
stamped under the place you would find the serial no., because it kind
of lookes like there might be a stamp there. Not that I would check,
just curious. 

Thanks for your time

Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 00:09:30 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Need info on Featherweight

Looking for help on determining value of a 221-1 Featherweight.  May be
interested in selling.  Have most accessories and machine is in excellent
condition.  Any help would be appreciated.

Thank you,

Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 09:11:43 -0500
Subject: New SMs for ME!!!

Hi Everyone,
	I am on cloud nine!! After several months of no SMs, I bought four this
week.  I try not to buy treadles, but have been looking for machines
with the Memphis design and the Red-eye.  I've seen lots of both but
usually the decals are in horrid shape or the Memphis is a repro.  I
found the Memphis head at a local thrift shop, where it was priced at
$75.  Got it for half that. The cabinet is actually in fair shape, wood
is solid and not terribly damaged.  The only major problem is the middle
drawer is missing and a small section of the treadle is broken out.  The
decals were nearly invisible under the gunk but after cleaning it looks
great!  When DH went to pick this one up, one guy said, "I can't believe
someone actually bought this!"    
	Found the Red-eye in an antique shop, priced $49.  Got it for half! 
The cabinet was "antiqued" with gray paint, (yechh!) but otherwise in
very good shape, no visible rust, clean, no broken or missing parts. 
The machine is in very good shape.    
	Both of these machines are in the same style treadle cabinet, so I'll
take the best parts of both and refinish to get one good cabinet.  The
legs from the "bad" treadle can be traded to my SM finding friend. 
He'll make a table to sell (don't hit me!) and find a good treadle
cabinet for the Red-eye.  Are there others who look for particular
	Best of all, I have two new toys, a Singer and a Betsy Ross, thanks to
my SM finding friend!  
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 05:23:26 -0500
Subject: Web site address change and update

HI All!
There's been a slight change in the address to our Sewing Page, try
finding it at:


If you have us bookmarked, you can go temporarily to the old site and
then get to the new one, we will leave that feature in place for a few
weeks only.Updates include:
A great new photo of Sue  's G.E. Sewhandy.
Our Misc. Sewing page now includes a scanned copy (you click on the
small pictures and everything get's big) of German Zig Zag
(Zick-Zack-Nahtub) instructions.  Also I recently came across a White
Sewimg Machine Manufacturing brochure from the late 40's or 50's.  It's
VERY interesting, I didn't know that Singer was the only company that
(at that time period) marketed a sewing machine called a FW!
Also in our Restoring Old machines section is a new format with an
animated GIF that goes through a series that shows the restoration of a
Also, I'm hoping someone can shed some light on my 201.  I actually may
have been a treadle?  It's got a spoked wheel, and a GERMAN add on
motor, but it's a Centenial.  Go figure!
Hope y'all stop by,
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 12:01:18 -0600
Subject: model 201

Wilma said (to Maggie):

> I just recently purchased the identical 201 machine and cabinet that
> your friend gave you.  The original sales flyer was still in the cabinet
> along with pictures of other cabinets and which machine heads they were
> for.  Your cabinet is Singer Cabinet  # 42.  The flyer states that the
> #42 cabinet was made exclusively for the Deluxe 201-2, which I thought
> that was what my head was but Singer Co. informed me that it was just a
> 201.  The word "just" is Singers word, not mine. :-) !

Singer doesn't usually have very specific information on model numbers
-- mostly, they just have the model class recorded.  Singer telling you
that your machine is "just" a 201 doesn't really mean anything, except
that they don't have complete information on the model number.  It was
probably information Singer didn't consider it necessary to record;
anyone working for Singer at the time who was familiar with Singer
production would know from looking at the production date whether the
201 was a 201-1 or a 201-2.

The one exception I've consistently found to Singer's not recording the
complete model number is model 27 machines made in the US and Canada
during the late 1890's and early 1900's.  Singer always identifies these
as 27-3 or 27-4 machines.  I've got a database with over 200 machines
recorded in it, and that's the only time Singer was specific about the

So I'd bet that you've really got that 201-2.

Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 13:48:42 -0500
Subject: White FW belts and kids who sew

Hi fellow feathers!!!!
Do any of you that own White Featherweights also have white belts on
yours?  My White FW has a white belt and I'd like to replace it with
another white one, but the only other White FW's I've personally seen
have either red or black belts.  Is there a resource for the white
belts, or am I stuck with a "foreign" color?
Also, thanks for the overwhelming responses to kids and sewing....we
found a 99K this weekend (what great timing!) and I had Jamie try sewing
with it.  She immediately "took" to it with a big smile.  I offered her
the opportunity to trade her 128 with the kneebar for this machine and
she jumped the opportunity.  Now what to do with another 128?  I now
have three!  I will be working side by side with her now!  She's already
starting to piece a doll quilt, and we'll make a jumper afterwards.
Thanks especially to Nadine Duke as she visited me yesterday (with Sue
McClure) we had a great time talking machines and quilting - but Nadine
showed up with a wonderful gift for my daughter, a learn to sew on a
machine book for kids!  Wow!  It has a great idea I'll pass along - draw
a "racetrack" with a marker on old fabric and have your child (with
supervision) follow the race - helps to get control of the machine and
pedal as well as give excellent practice sewing curves - lots of great
Also, I really liked Capt. Dick's ideas about putting the machine at a
low table and I'm planning on doing that too!  You guys are the
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 16:19:02 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Machine pricing

This is in response to, and in agreement with, Xenia on pricing of FWs.
 I also am a dealer and a seamstress and sell FW's at shows, etc.  After I
buy a machine my husband goes over it with a fine tooth comb, figurively
speaking.  He cleans, oils, adjusts until it run just as smoothly as can be
and it looks beautiful.  I make sure there are bobbins, attachments, and a
booklet included, and of course, the case.  This all takes time.  So after
paying up to $325 for the machine to start with an then putting that kind of
time into it and selling it for $425, sometimes I wonder if it is worth it.
 I'm sure a business consultant would say it isn't worth it, so why do I do
it?  I do it because I love the little machines and they make a wonderful
focal point to go with the rest of my sewing antiques, including toy
machines.  My business motto is the Golden Rule and I don't want to sell
anything to anyone in a condition other than what I would want it to be like
if I were buying it.  
If you are in the Central Ohio area over Thanksgiving, look me up at Scott's
Antique Show in Columbus on Nov. 29-30 in the Lausche Building.  I'd love to
meet you.  Grandma Moses
Subject: adjusting the aftermarket foot pedals
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 97 14:33:41 -0500

I've seen comments about these foot pedals being fast and I know what is meant by that since I have two of them. That is, if these are the same type I have, where the speed is controlled by a contact that moves over what look like springs. From looking at the Singer foot pedal I have, it uses a different mechanism to control the speed.  Anyhoo, I understand how the speed is controlled in this off_brand foot pedals - the contact moving over the "springs" varies the resistance and therefore amount of current to the motor. What I would like to know is, has anyone added resistance at the low speed end so that the starting speed is slower? 
Or, has anyone increased the resistance overall? I never use the top speed,
so wouldn't mind that. Putting a light bulb in line would be an entertaining
solution, but I sure not the best. :-)  Any easy and practical solutions?

Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 16:44:04 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: A Singer in Tokyo

Hi Feathers!
I just got back from a short trip to Tokyo where I had an afternoon to go to
the Edo Museum.  This is a wonderful historical museum that traces the
history of Tokyo from the earliest times to the present.  In one of the
display cases was an old Singer treadle machine (sorry, I don't know which
model and the information was in Japanese).  It was there to show the modern
appliances that were used in Japan after the country became more open to the
west, and looked to me as if it dated about 1910 or so.  It really tickled me
to see it there.

Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 12:47:43 -0600
Subject: one drop

     Could somebody put on the post where you can send to get the one drop 
     oder remover. I wiped out my postings for the day that it was posted 
     thinking that Wal-mart up here in Minnesota would have it but they 
     have never heard of the product. Any help would be appreciated.
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 17:03:19 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Chat room

Does anyone know of a chat room anywhere that sewing machine collectors get
together and chat?  

Subject: New Reproduction Singer 15 
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 17:06:26 EST

New things appear all the time!
I got a flier today which has a picture of a beautful portable electric
Singer SM  with decals that look like a sphinx.  Flier says:
New Reproduction (written by hand)
Cast Iron Head
Straight stitch 
Ideal for Linings and Lightweight Leather
Sewing Light (mounted on the back)
Sewing machine seam quide with thumb screw
Singer 15 Class Model
Brand New

Curious about what I was seeing, I called and asked a few questions.
It is made in China for Singer, has class 15 round bobbin with
oscillating shuttle, feed dogs lower, some plastic parts in tension
assembly and plastic knob to lower feed dogs,  weighs about 30 pounds,
and comes with a plastic case or wooden case.  I asked how it compared to
the original Model 15 and response was:  "The old ones are better.  No
one makes a machine like the old ones any more."

Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 11/15/97
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 23:46:41 +0000

To all re Chuck

Thought you'd all like to know the general re-action to the story about
Chuck, the loud American I met in Dublin.

 I had 24 e-mails. 22 enjoyed the yarn and recognised Chuck. One thought I
should have been more diplomatic and the last  accused me of being a

Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 11/15/97
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 23:46:19 +0000

To Wilma re Monarch

 Monarch machines were made by the Davis Sewing Machine Co and  New Home Co
 for a large retailer who added his own brand name to have an "exclusive

 Likely period is 1920s to 30s.

To Paul re Taylor Bird

The Taylor Bird is something of a legend in Britain. It was about the first
machine to go into production after the war when machines were hard to come

Problem is that it was a real dog. Soon became a tease machine. Would be
offered really cheap and when it came bcak a week later ( as it always did)
the retailer would switch sell to a more expensive rebuilt pre-war model.

Story has it that every store in the UK had just one which would get sold
and returned scores of times a year.

That said it certainly has a place in a collection

To Chris

Thanks for the Alphasew information. Have refered the enquirer to you.

To Pam

Buy the Willcox and Gibbs providing it has the spool holder pin

Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 18:16:04 -0600
Subject: Singer Sales Flyer

There have been some inquiries about the Singer Cabinet Sales FLyer that
I have that was in a cabinet with the 201 head that I recently
purchased. (by the way, I got it for $50 and am tickled pink!)

Right now I'm very busy with some craft shows, that's how I make my
"mad" money so I can go hunt more machines.  It will be 3 or 4 weeks
before things slow down enough to get this copied and I want to try to
find someone who can copy the entire sheet, both sides, and then be able
to fold it like the original is.

Here's the numbers  of cabinets and the machines that went in them.

Cabinet Model #47............15-91, 201-2, 15-97.
       "         "     #49............99-13, 128-8.
       "         "     #40............201-2 (This is a fancy "Queen
Anne" )
       "         "     #40............15-91, 15-97.  (same # as the one
above but they

advertise this one as the Library

      "          "     #42............201-2 (but mine has a 201)
      "          "     #50............15-97, 66SV8.
      "          "     #48............201-2.
      "          "     #41............66-8.

On the reverse side of the flyer they advertise three machines(with
pictures) and they are the 24-80, 221-1 and the 99-13.  The 24-80 is a
chain stitch machine. Then there's a few accessories advertised along
with some vacuam cleaners.  This flyer has a copyright date, 1929.

Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 21:38:46 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Free Sewing Machine

No, don't have a sewing machine to give away!!  Bought one today at an estate
sale and it's called "The Free", a treadle made by the Free Sewing Machine
Co. Rockford, Ill.  It came in a dusty but beautiful oak cabinet and I only
paid $25.  The machine is beautiful, black with gold and green birds and has
the shuttle bobbin case and two bobbins and even the oil can in it's own
holder inside, under the machine!  
The serial # is G214221.  Anyone know anything about this machine or how old
it is?  I need to get a new belt but I moved the wheel by hand and it sewed
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 22:07:08 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Hinges for sewing machine cabinet drop leaves

While looking through my new VanDyke's Restorers catalog (1-800-558-1234) I
noticed on p.69 Sewing Machine Hinges.  The ad reads "Brass-plated steel
hinge for the drop leaf flap of sewing machines.  1 1/4" wide by 3" long.
 Countersunk holes with screws included. S1395 - sewing machine hinge  (3
oz.) 2.95 per pr.  6 or more pair 2.65 per pr.   This is a very interesting
catalog if you are into furniture and trunk restoration.  This company is in
Woonsocket, SD.
Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 00:49:51 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Another machine

Judy in PA
The parts for that is a White part.  After you loosen the set screw it may
take a bit of wiggle to get it out.  I did not use my WD40 as it was too
close to the motor.  I took it to the sewing repair and they matched it to a
new one that was less than 6 with tax.  Easy to go back on and tighten the
set screw.  When you are not sewing push the motor out and place something to
hold it off the fly wheel.  Then you will not get a flat spot.

About my new find
Found a 66 in cabinet today with the godzilla finish on the head but not on
the wheel or cover.  It is a 1935 reworked in 1946.  All the paper work
verified that.  Strange looking and I got to thinking....this was done by a
local person who may have been a tab work ethic challenged so as a shortcut
they did not gozilla the whole machine.  All attachments and bobbins are
black.  Manual is 1946 and states that it is a rework.  Had lots of "stuff"
with it.  I got it for the manuals, attachments, buttonholer and other odds
and ends.  It was marked 150 and I asked about the attachments only....don't
laugh I have had people sell me just the contents of the drawers.  This time
they said that they would take 30 for the contents but since they did not
want to give me a bag for them I had to take the machine with  me!!!  At
least some of the pawn shop owners have a sense of humor.

When we loaded it 2 controllers fell out.  One for the knee bar on the
machine and an older one for the foot pedal that was there.  

Blessed Be
Subject: Singer ad
Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 05:24:25 -0500

This is from an add in the Winter 1945-46 McCall Needlework magazine, which
I bought for $1 at a thrift shop in Newburgh, NY (which I went to while
visiting with Linda  and Nadine  - it's such FUN to get together with fellow collectors!):

"Are you waiting for a new SINGER SEWING MACHINE? Read this: 

Would you like to be one of the first women to own a new Singer when
they're again being manufactured? You CAN be!

Right now, Singer Sewing Centers are taking orders for postwar Singers.

And though, as this is written, Singer factories are still on war work and
will be until the war is won - they may be making some new machines by the
time you read these words!

In any case - when there ARE Singers, make sure you get yours. Go to your
Singer Sewing Center now - decide on the model you want - sign up for it!
No deposit now - budget terms, if desired, when you DO get your machine!

Don't be left out! Though production of new machines may be limited for a
time even after the go-ahead order, the demand won't be limited!

Surveys show that 3,500,000 women plan to buy new sewing machines. See that
YOUR dream comes true by getting your name way at the top of Singer's

Thought this was very interesting - and would love to hear more about just
what the Singer factories made during the war and just when they went back
to making machines. Sue 
Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 09:11:26 -0500
Subject: Sewing With a Hand Crank

To Diana  :
You said:
"I know one thing for sure, those women who used handcranks probably had
some arm muscles on them!  After sewing for about 20 minutes, I  had to
give my arm a break"
Diana, this shouldn't be happening.  I pieced an entire quilt with my
handcrank and mine SPINS.  I think your machines need some serious
cleaning and oiling.  My handcrank wouldn't even turn when we bought it,
but now just a light touch with the tip of the fingers makes it spin -
try working on this problem, and you'll be very pleased.  If I push
slightly on the crank, the machine will do about 5 or 6 independent
turns before coming to a stop, all on it's own.  No muscle required.
Should you have difficulty after trying what I have suggested, please
feel free to e-mail me privately and we can try to brainstorm about
this!  You shouldn't need to be tired out at all - I could sew on mine
for hours, and I'm not in the greatest physical condition, just
Subject: Slant Needle Walking Feet
Date: Wed, 19 Nov 97 09:02:46 -0500

Just a word of warning.  All Singer or generic brand slant needle walking
feet DO NOT work on Singer 301s and 404.  These slant needle machines were
made to straight stitch only so the feed dogs are not in the same position
as the slant needle zig zag machines.  The feed dogs on the walking foot
MUST line up with those on the 301/404 machines or you will end up with the
same mess I did!  

One of the "stores" that sells products for our machines on the weekly FWF
sales list does sell a walking foot for the 301 so perhaps they will read
this and let us know how much and where to purchase it.  I was given one
last Christmas and it works well on a Singer 404 but I cannot remember the
name of the supplier.

Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 09:45:05 -0500
Subject: Lubricant use question

Hi Feathers!  After six weeks of owning a FW, I'm still feeling like a
"new owner" and I sure could use some advice.  

To lubricate my FW, here's what I did.  Is it right?....With a new tube
of lubricant, I followed the FW manual for putting it in the proper places.
 However, when I reached the motor, I'm not sure I did it right.  The
tube needed to be squeezed so hard, it was difficult to tell if any lubricant
was going into the motor holes.  If the tip of the lubricant tube in put
into the hole, can the lubricant get into well if there isn't anyplace for
excess air to go?  I think I filled both lubricant wells, but is there
any way to check for sure?  Any suggestions for better ways to go about

Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 11:19:25 -0600
Subject: FW Face Plate Material

Here is a reply from Cynthia   about the fabric for the SM face
plates.  Thanks so much Cynthia for sharing, it is very much
appreciated.  Your designs are so beautiful!


Hi Wilma,
So glad you emailed me about the face plate fabric. I also read the
Featherweight Fanatics page and read your post, but, I am embarrassed to
say that I did not know how to go about getting on and telling you about
the fabric. I have been hooked up to the net for about two months now.
We have used four different fabrics for the face plates in the
featherweight kits. We picked some fabrics that looked like the swirly
plates and some that look like the straight plate. One is out of print.
It is my favorite. It is a Hoffman and is called "Windsor". I will
describe it as peacock feather swirls, heavy on the metallic silver.
Another we use is called "Kaledioscope" also by Hoffman. It would look
great if your featherweight has a straight plate. It is an angular
design with shades of gray and black also heavy on the silver. It is
still available and I got it at A & J Fabrics in Houston.
I am realitively new at this kit business. I started doing it because
when I would travel to teach some of the students had a hard time
finding fabrics. They were not fortunate like I was to be near so many
fabric stores. We try very hard to find just the right material. Some,
like the face plate fabric, I need small amounts of. So, I buy it retail
and then cut it up. Unfortuately, I do not have a whole bolt of any of
the face plate fabric. I keep a look out on my travels and pick up
things that catch my eye. You can tell the fanatics that when ordering a
kit, if they want to request a specific fabric to represent their own
featherweight plate (i.e. straight or swirly) we would be happy to do
that for them.
If you have any other questions, please let me know.
P.S. That pattern was made from a photograph of my own featherweight. I
have two, one straight plate, one swirly.
Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 07:51:06 -0800
Subject: Identity, parts, and manuals

Aloha Featherwights,

I am not sure how to write to the list but here goes.  I have two
featherweights recently acquired from an uncle who passed away. My uncle
was a singer traveling sales and repair man. One of the Featherweights
is brand new but missing some parts, it is a 221K serial # LS246743. My
uncle sold the motor rather than order one and I used the throat plate
and a part from the bobbin casing on the other Featherweight since it
had a motor. The second machine serial # AD943136 but I can't seem to
find the model number. This machine has been well used I donot know how
the ratings are done but on a scale of 1 to 10 it is probably a 5. It
sews beautifully and has some attachments of which I have no idea what
they are. Hope someone can tell me more about my machines and where I
can get manuals and parts.
Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 16:58:03 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Kids sewing on treadle machines

Hello Feathers,

I have been seeing the posts lately regarding children sewing on treadle
machines.  I have been thinking about this for several days.  If the child's
legs are too short to comfortably sit and treadle...how hard would it be to
place blocks of wood on the front and back of the treadle?  Seems to me that
if you cut two pieces of a 4X4 both about ten inches long and fixed them to
the treadle by means of a panduit (a plastic tie with the little clicky thing
on one end) that a child could sit comfortably in a chair and be able to
reach the pedal at the same time.  It wouldn't be pretty, but it could be
removed easily and would cause no damage to the machine.  

Just my two cents.

Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 11/17/97
Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 15:37:31 -0700

Thanks for the 301 case info.  My best  bet is to find one for about $25.00
I guess, any more than that forget it, any less, we're talking bargain city.

Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 15:30:43 -0800
Subject: Re: FW Carrying Case & on planes

Thanks to everyone who responded about soft carrying cases for FWs.  I do
appreciate all the responses, both privately and on the list!  In case
others are interested, four of us had no problems flying on Southwest from
Oakland CA to Seattle with our Feathers.  Two were in original cases and
two were in Rubbermade File boxes.  On the flight to Seattle I had to open
the case and tell the attendant it was a sewing machine.  No problem
returning.  I didn't have to take anything out (and I had an iron, lamp,
and sewing kit in the case--though I put my rotary cutter in my checked
bag).  We put them all in the upper bins.  I used a set of small wheels as
I know they can get heavy after long distances.  No problems.  I don't know
anything about a Elna Lotus, but expect it would be fine too.

Thanks again,

Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 11/16/97
Date: Thu, 20 Nov 1997 00:01:58 +0000

To Joyce re Willcox and Gibbs problems.

You wrote
> Having a problem
>with the stitches collecting on the little wheel underneath the plate.
>How do I adjust this??

There is virtually nothing to adjust on the  W&G. Tension is set
automatically and the machine can't lose its timing. Usual answer to your
problem is that the hook assembly has become dirty or slightly rusty and
will not allow the thread to slide off it smoothly.

Also check that the needle is set properly. If you are using the correct
needle this must be all the way into the needle bar. Groove goes to the
left . If you have the correct wrench for tightening the coillet nut that
holds the needle you will notice a small groove in the jaw opening. This is
designed to help you push the needle up into place.

To Laura

The Harris machine was distributed by a large retailer who got his stocks
from many different companies -- mostly German -- so it could have been
made by a number of different factories. Caould probably  tie it down from
a picture.

To Pam who wrote

>  The only drawback is it
>has an antique odor to the box and machine.  .  I think the previous owner
>was a heavy smoker.

We smokers get blamed for everything.

Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 19:16:39
Subject: Re:  Memories of learning to sew

Hi everyone:

I enjoyed the stories about kids learning to sew and which machines to
recommend for kids.  Capt. Dick's story about McKenna brought back some
memories for me too.  My mother had (still has it) a model 27 Singer in a
cabinet.  We bugged her to let us sew on it, but she wouldn't let us too
often as she didn't want her tension messed up!  She did teach my sister
and I to sew doll clothes occasionally under her watchful.  One day we were
at a second hand shop and she bought us our own treadle machine...I think
she paid $5.00 for it (could have been $15.00).  My sister and I both sewed
a lot on that thing.  I remember sewing my first dress on it when I was in
grade 7.  Was I ever proud of that thing.  It was made of flowered
polyester....there was no reverse, you have to turn the thing around at the
end of every seam.  You also had to sew each side of the seam under 1/4 "
to "finish off the seams".  When my sister was 18, she bought a most
"wonderful" machine...it had reverse and zigzag, oh joy!!!  Now, I'd love
to have that treadle back....my Dad said he remember it was a White.

Am I getting old now that I'm starting to reminisce?  I'm only 41, help!
Thanks for your great stories Capt. Dick.  They are thoroughly enjoyed and
sure bring back memories of my own.

Happy collecting, all.

Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 11/17/97
Date: Thu, 20 Nov 1997 00:01:28 +0000

To all re left-handed machines

Krisi's note re left-handed industrial Singers reminded me that Singer
produced a Model 24 in left hand form for industrial use.

To all re Singer 25.

Really not sure what this is apart from the fact that it uses a 24 x 1
needle. Could anyone send me a picture please?

To Linda

Might be able to help with the Western Electric manual but need to know the

To Barb

The lamp holder on the FW is plastic and prone to chipping so that only one
leg of the bayonet  fitting on the lamp functions and it rocks about when
the machine is being used.

To tsutton

There was feature on FW tables in a recent issue of ISMACS News -- it will
graduate to the web site http://www.ismacs.net/  next year.

Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 21:14:54 -0500
Subject: Miscellaneous

This is my first posting.  I have been reading for several weeks now.  I
collect TSM and FW's.  I have about 30 TSM's and 10 FW's, 9 Black and 1
White.  My white one came with an original soft side case, does anyone else
have this?  I never saw one before I got mine.  I also have some of the
better old machines, 401, 500's, 301's etc.

To Terry :  The 6268 does require service, but only by a Factory
trained technician.  If the tech is not factory trained, all he will do is
what your serviceman explained. There is alot more to servicing the 6268
than most think and should only be opened up by someone that knows the

To Clay & Shelly :  The alphasew had the 1/4" foot with the 1/8"
on the left side.  It was improved by using a foot similar to a Zig Zag
Foot but it has 1/4" on each side.

To Lin  : Thread does rot, I do not recommend using it as it can very
easily jam up your machine if the thread breaks in the hook.

A few days ago someone posted about a Compac machine that was sort of a
knock off of the FW.  I have one but have never heard of it before.  It is
kind of a neat little machine, very different looking.  It sort of looks
like an oversized TSM.  I have the case and attachments, but no instruction
book.  It seems to be pretty easy to use, sews well.

I'll sign off your now,

Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 22:21:19, -0500
Subject: New Little Foot

For Clay and Shelly:  I read where you were asking about an AlphaSew 
1/4" foot and also mentioned the Little Foot with the 1/8" left "toe" 
 .  Little Foot now has a wonderful new foot with 1/4" on the right 
"toe" and about 3/8" on the left.  It covers the feed dogs on the FW 
perfectly.  I never had any trouble with feeding the fabric with my 
old Little Foot on both my 221 and my 401A Singers but now I am 
blessed with the new Little Foot and I love it.  
Rita Gunter 
Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 23:04:04 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 11/17/97

In a message dated 97-11-19 02:26:46 EST, you write:

>> On page 9 are  two pictures of a woman sitting at a modern electric sewing machine in a  cabinet that looks like a Singer cabinet except for is stretcher base.   The cabinet's top opens in the middle and just the leaf to the left has
 a support.  The machine has a small fly wheel, a light in the back, and
 a small round motor (with a circular emblem) mounted on the "elbow" of >>

This sounds like the cabinet the  101 is in that we got a couple months ago.
 I think that one dated in the 20's.
Subject: Hopefully a message
Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 20:52:04 -0800

Hi, all, things are suddenly not good again.   Just wanted you to know I am
working on itbut will probably be down again for a few more days.

I did catch up a lot of mail today until this started a few minutes ago.

Captain Dick
Subject: more problems
Date: Thu, 20 Nov 1997 10:25:17 -0800

As you will see from this message, things are still a mess.   I am taking
the computer  setup  apart and taking it in for more work, so will be out
of pocket until further notice.

for the Feather  list  ,  I am  behind  on   getting   out   some   of  
the   manuals      I    will   try   to   get   to   that   today.

Captain Dick
Subject: Cleaner "Simple Green"
Date: Thu, 20 Nov 1997 15:16:01 -0800

I remember reading in the past about "Simple Green" to clean your machines,
and that it wouldn't harm the decals....but, great for getting thru the
grime!  Is that info correct....I just bought some cleaner and wanted to
clean up the  66 red-eye, but wanted to make sure I remembered correctly?

Date: Thu, 20 Nov 1997 16:53:37 -0500
Subject: Singer History Week

I proclaim this week Singer History Week.... If you have any interesting
tidbits of Singer History you think others would be interested in
hearing, please post.
Of special interest:  What kind of "war work" did the Singer factories
What kind of special edition machines were produced to commemorate what
You get the point, just share the info!  If you want Singer History,
just print digests over the next few weeks as people respond!
Hoping to read many really fun facts and trivia,
Date: Thu, 20 Nov 1997 22:39:52 -0600
Subject: Dressmake Machine

Thankyou Mr Forsdyke for the information on the Monarch SM.  If it is
still there I will bring it home.

I have found a machine in what looks to me like a mahogany cabinet,
electric, and the name on the front of the machine is Dressmaker, this
name is also on the motor which BTW looks like a rather large motor.
The machine is finished with the dull finish which is called the
Godzilla finish?  And it has the largest light I've ever seen on a SM.
The sales tag on the cabinet says it is a Singer but nowhere could I
find anything written Singer on it.  Both machine and cabinet are in
excellent condition.  Can anyone help identify this Dressmaker machine?

Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 00:19:42 -0500
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 11/18/97


I just wanted all my FWF friends to know how helpful Jim has been lately. I had lost a couple of parts on one of my Singers and Jim came to the rescue with all flags flying.  One of the parts was thrown in the garbage by my two year old, so I did not know if I would ever get it up and going again and as it was my beloved 201 I was in quite a panic.

Thanks Jim you know your stuff and to top it all off you are extremely fair with your pricing.

Steve and Gina
Date: Thu, 20 Nov 1997 23:45:59 -0700
Subject: FW advice and question

The sewing machine repairman gave me the following advice while he repaired
by machines last week.

FW odor: caused by mold. He recommends diatacious earth (sold under the
name of Nature's Remedy, or under other names) obtained at a pet store.
Absorbs moisture and thus kills the molds. Put it in the FW box. (no
affiliation to product disclamer)

He also said that the oil drip paper under the machine is another source
for mold growth. Either treat it by drying out or replace with blotter
paper cut to the same shape.

On another topic: I found a Wilcox and Gibbs machine (electric motor and
foot peddle) with no belt in an antique store. The cost was $65 for a very
worn machine, yet the wheel turned. What kind of shape would one expect to
find this type of machine? It looks pretty well used for the price. Any
experience with these machines anyone?   Thanks.

Date: 21 Nov 1997 02:19:58 EDT
Subject: foot shaped pedal

Hi All,
Just wondering how long and around what time Singer made the foot shaped
pedals.  Yesterday I found a 99 at a flea market, and it had this type
pedal.  It"s an AD serial number, so must be in the thirties, anyway.
At first I didn't even see the machine, but only the foot pedal, and
looked to see if it was a W&G, but it says Singer on it, and looks to be
in fine shape.  The price was right, $5 for the head, pedal, and a
button-holer.  The buttonholer had seen better days, as when I picked it
up, my thumb poked through the plastic on the case.....but who's
complaining.  The machine doesn't look too bad, and it runs.  I've oiled
everyplace I can think of, but there is still one tiny little squeak,and
I can't figure out where it is.  Have gotten to the point of wondering
if it might be the belt.  As my son used to say "It's a Mystery".  Will
maybe solve it tomorrow, after attending "one more auction".  : - )
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 07:51:29
Subject: Re: New Family 12

Help...yet again

I bought a New Family # 12 Singer ( Mother of Pearl) several months ago.
It is only the head and was in need of new beveled gears on the inside.
Well a few days ago I found another NF#12 that I want to use for parts.  

Problem is I can't get the flywheel off the Mother of Pearl machine. The
other one was easy just remove the tapured pin.  THe M of P one has a side
knob on the flywheel so you can disenguage the needle.  I have tried and
tried to take it apart to replace the gear but I can't figure out how it
comes off.

Does anyone know how this is done? and does anyone have a diagram/ manuel
of the NF #12 to see how to take it apart that I might get :-)

I would have NEVER have thought I woul have been so luck to find the parts
to fix her up...an for $10 at that !!!

Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 09:13:09 -0500
Subject: Wallpaper

This might be something everyone knows already.  I get bored with my
"Windows Wallpaper" often.  I was viewing Cynthia 's site and
accidently double clicked the right mouse button instead of the left
mouse button (I was trying to view the "Featherweight quilt" in a larger
format.  Did you know that you get an option to "add as wallpaper"??? 
Well, I did and now I have Cynthia's beautiful Featherweight quilt as
wallpaper!  I'm definitely ordering both the pattern and the fabric kit.

Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 11:05:50 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 11/18/97
Hi feathers!

Linda Heminway: You asked about white FW machine belts:

" Do any of you that own White Featherweights also have white belts on
 yours?  My White FW has a white belt and I'd like to replace it with
 another white one, but the only other White FW's I've personally seen
 have either red or black belts.  Is there a resource for the white
 belts, or am I stuck with a "foreign" color?
I also have a white FW with white belt that really needs to be replaced and
have called and searched for a white replacement with no luck.  Have been
told that they only make black replacements.....I hadn't heard of red ones? I
don't think I would care for that color.  Black is bad enough!  

Good luck,   Pat 
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 97 10:02:27 PST
Subject: Seattle Question


I am a fairly new reader here and would like some recommendations as to a
Seattle area sewing machine store that I can trust to both do tune-ups on my FW
and/or to have parts/manuals for my 221 and 201. What I really want is someone I can trust with my machines, who won't try to talk me into trading them in.
e-mail me 
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 17:40:10 -0600
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 11/18/97

Linda said:

> Do any of you that own White Featherweights also have white belts on
> yours?  My White FW has a white belt and I'd like to replace it with
> another white one, but the only other White FW's I've personally seen
> have either red or black belts.

The white FW I gave to my mother-in-law (which had been used maybe 10
times) had a white belt that was in perfect condition.  OUt of
curiosity, I asked the guys at the Singer shop whether they could get
replacement white belts, and they said to take good care of it, because
they couldn't.  Now, realize that these guys aren't rocket scientists
(they're trying to sell a FW with half the paint on the bed missing for
$450 - FIRM!) but they are pretty good about getting replacement parts
for old machines.

Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 17:19:17 -0600
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 11/19/97

Hi FWs,

I found a Fashion Mate by Singer today.  The Lady is asking $60. Is this
a good machine? 

It looked like a good basic zig zag and appeared to be in very good
condition.  There were no accessories, nor a manual. Weighed a ton.

Date: Thu, 20 Nov 1997 19:56:54 -0800
Subject: White Featherweight Belt

I own a white featherweight and mine also has a white belt.  I'm
assuming the white belts are original to the machine and if replaced
they would have to be black.  I've never seen nor heard of a white
belt for sale anywhere to replace it that also was white.  Maybe
someone else knows of somewhere that sells them.

Subject: Children sewing.....
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 08:26:19 -0600

Linda H wrote.......
"a "racetrack" with a marker on old fabric and have your child (with
supervision) follow the race - helps to get control of the machine and
pedal as well as give excellent practice sewing curves - lots of great

Waaaayyy back when I first took "clothing" in Jr. High School, they gave us
pieces of paper printed with straight lines, spirals, box mazes etc. to
stitch with an unthreaded needle to get the feel of the machine.  Since I
had been sewing since I was six, I thought how BORING, but later when my
young teenage daughter (who couldn't learn to sew from me) [mainly because
I cannot TEACH anyone anything] took the Singer Teen sewing class, they
still used these aids.  The teacher can look at the holes and tell how you
were doing.

Date: Sat, 22 Nov 1997 07:55:42 +0400
Subject: Singer History Week

Last year at a large antique mall on US 70 in central Ohio, I saw a
boxed suturing kit (needle and handle containing suturing thread, if I
remember correctly) made for WWII use.  The Singer logo was on the paper
instruction insert in the box.  And it was a pricy item, so I left it

Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 12:42:21 -0500 (EST)
Subject: WANTED

Hello all,
I am searching for the manual for a 640 Golden TouchnSew.  My Mother is
having a hard time remembering the settings and after reading the posts on
aol regarding this site I thought I'd see if anyone had an extra manual or
perhaps copy, I will pay any and all copy & postage costs.  
Thank you for all your help.

Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 21:43:52 +0000
Subject: FW case latches, motors

My father's been on the lookout for me for "one of those little
machines" and rang me today to say he'd found 2 and how would he know
which one I wanted? Easy answer - both. He phoned again to say that one
of them was "one of those freearm thingies" but when the previous owner
had been burgled the thieves had forced the latches on the case. After
they'd seen the contents they left it but of course the latches now
don't latch. I didn't still want it did I if it had a damaged case?
(well what do you think I said). Can latches be repaired or replaced?
I'm sure I've seen this discussed recently but I've been back through
the archives for the last month searching on the word latch and drawn a

The other machine has been overhauled and had a new (white) motor
fitted. Dad was told that it is impossible to get (black) motors like
those on the FW but I seem to remember seeing that the motor from
another more common Singer was the same as that on the FW. Can someone
please point me in the right direction? The rest of my machines are all
handcranked or treadle and this electricity business is beyond my

The only advice I can offer in return is that I seem to have now found a
satisfactory answer to those people who think it's odd to have 16 sewing
machines. They seem to be completely satisfied with the explanation that
it's a form of retirement fund and that I'm mothballing machines to be
brought out in 30 years time and sold at a huge profit. The truth, that
I buy machines for the joy of ownership and for the appreciation of
their differences is never so well received.
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 17:04:47 +0400
Subject: Machine ads + prices

Hi, Feathers - I recently purchased a catalogue from Marshall Field &
Co, in Chicago, which is a distribution catalogue for merchants only. It
is for Fall & Winter 1916-17.  On page 143 are 4 cabinet sewing
machines:  The Invader, with parts made of Bessemer steel (case-hardened
in oil), with a 3/4 size head, improved spring leaf tension, automatic
bobbin winder, and positive four motion feed.  The cabinet (called a
case, but all are flip-tops) is dark golden oak, and the unit sells for
$11.00  The second machine is the Avon, designed and built for
advertising purposes, guaranteed for 10 years, priced at $12.50.=20
The third machine is the Peerless Vibrator, a shuttle machine equipped
with automatic tension (much verbiage about this innovation).  Comes
with a full set of Greist #2 attachments, and the cabinet is
quarter=3Dsawn white oak.  Cost is $18.50.  The 4th machine is the Rajah,
a 2-thread machine, built for that class of people who desire the very
best the market affords.  It is a rotary automatic tension machine
ya-dah ya-dah ya-dah. Cabinet of selected American white oak,
quarter-sawn, strong cable lifting device for the machine, full set of
Greist #1 attachments.  Each machine $22.50.  Reduction of 50=A2 per
machine in lots of 3 or more, any assortment.

There is also on this page an ad for a sewing machine motor operated by
foot pedal, that will adapt any treadle or hand crank to electricity. 
Takes the drudgery out of sewing.  Each $10.50.

Date: 21 Nov 1997 14:50:14 PDT
Subject: FW Fanatics 11/19/97

How does one go about ordering a kit from Cynthia England for the Featherweight
 wall hanging???  Please post to list or email me privately at danlee@slip.net

Subject: Re: Graham's True Story (Chuck)
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 18:48:05 -0500

I don't know, Graham. Maybe if you had been nice to Chuck, he might have
made you a good deal on a used car. I can just about guarantee you that the
other outfit in his wardrobe includes a slightly too small plaid suit with
white belt and shoes. BTW - I guess we all have "Chucks", as he reminded me
very much of a Monty Python sketch about some British tourists on holiday on
the continent.

Subject: White FW Belt
Date: Thu, 20 Nov 1997 22:18:02 -0800

For Linda Heminway:
	I also have one of the white (mint green) FW's.  The belt is also white. 
Mine dates to 1968, and is close to showroom condition, machine, manual &
case.  It even has the original paper Singer plant sticker on the base of
the machine (front, right side).
	I believe the white belt is the original one, and plan to replace with the
new black lugged one.  (Unless someone out there does know of white
replacement belts - if you do, please let us know.)  Wanda
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 07:42:36
Subject: Chuck


> >I had 24 e-mails. 22 enjoyed the yarn and recognised Chuck. 
One thought I
>should have been more diplomatic 
>>>>>>>>>and the last  accused me of being a  communist.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Gee Graham....that tourist must have goten you e-mail address 

Keep up with the yarns...soon we will have enough to knit a sweater!
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 08:22:33 -0800
Subject: WANTED 201 Manual and quilting question

Hey there, all!

Been lurking for quite some time, and I am continually impressed on the
warmth and knowledge freely shared. THANK YOU!

I guess I'm a collector...I have a Minnesota B treadle I'm restoring, an
electrified White, a Featherweight and a 201. All my machines I bought
(except for the FW) just because I thought they were beautiful. Didn't
even know how to sew! My FW was given to me by my future mother-in-law.
I learned to sew when I was 26, and now my FW and I piece quilts almost
every day since!

The 201 I bought at an auction about 14 years ago, was stored in my
parent's attic, where it was recently re-discovered after my dad
threatened to toss it (I forgot all about it!). It has a little gray
case, foot pedal, and that's it. I was wondering if anyone out there
could send me a copy of a manual? My e-mail is piston@kb-silvolite.com.

My quilting question is this...is the 201 a good machine to quilt with?
I understand that I shouldn't with my FW (and she's my baby; I would
never harm her!), but what about the 201? It's certainly a lot HEAVIER
than the FW; can it handle the bulk? I don't want to hurt it, either,
but I am a very SLOW hand quilter, and there's some projects I would
like to try to machine quilt to get them finished this decade.

Thanks to everyone!
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 11:18:28 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 11/18/97

To Wilma :
In a message dated 97-11-21 06:56:44 EST, you write:

There have been some inquiries about the Singer Cabinet Sales FLyer that
I have that was in a cabinet with the 201 head that I recently purchased.  It
will be 3 or 4 weeks  before things slow down enough to get this copied and I
want to try to find someone who can copy the entire sheet, both sides, and
then be able to fold it like the original is.
I hope you let us all know on the list when you have this done and it sounds
very interesting and I for one would be interested in a copy of it.  Willing
to pay for it of course.......:) 

Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 23:37:27 -0900
Subject: Re: Singer flyer

For Wilma 

I've just recently acquired a flyer similar to yours. It shows the
following cabinet models and machines and is copyright 1937.

Cabinet model #40.........15-91 or 101-4
(Queen Anne) #40QA....201-2 or 101-4 rotary (I have this one with a 201-2.
I'm looking for the bench.)

Also listed and pictured are the Portable No. 99-13 in the bentwood case,
the Portable No. 221-1 in the black tray top case and the Portable No.
24-80, also in the black tray top case. The last one surprised me. I've
never seen a 24 in any type of case!

On the flip side are listed the Pinker, Hemstitcher, Zig-Zagger, Quilter,
Singercraft Guide, Cloth Guide, Edge Stitcher, Cording Foot, Braider,
Ripper and Threader and Material Gripper (never seen the gripper),
Gathering Foot and the Fagoter. Each has a picture of the attachment in

Then there are the Singer Hand Vacuum Cleaner, the Singer Motor Driven
Brush Cleaner (regular size vacuum), the Singer Automatic Electric Iron,
the Singer Cord control (I remember Grandma using this) and Singer Electric
Scissors (didn't realize they had them this early).

And last, but not least, The Singer "Make it yourself" Plan, a leatherette
covered wallet with an I.D.card and a mess of tear-out coupons for lessons,
a measuring chart, books and consultations. I got hold of two of these at
the same time I got the flyer.

If you should find out about having yours copied in color inexpensively I'd
like to hear about it. Mine is not what I'd call fragile, but it has been
folded and unfolded alot and the creases are starting to open up. If we can
actually get these copied I'd love to share!

Thanks and happy hunting!

Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 23:28:30 -0500 (EST)
Subject: One Drop

Well I started the rumor about "One Drop" I thought it was not a local
product.  Threw the paper backing used to hang it on the pegboards. Hmmm....I
just might rich here if I try.....

Option # 1  "Attention shoppers!!  Moonsage has a special for the next three
weeks.   Send your stinky cases with the machines in them (FW in any color)
and in return mail I will send you a bottle of "Moonsage's Magic Elixer For
Stinky Things" with a garantee to remove all smells from your house."  (PS I
really want white, tan and centenial models but will take others in payment
for the One Drop.)

OR Option #2 

Willert Home Products Company 
4044 Park Ave.
ST. Louis,MO  63110-2320
(314) 772-3506

One Drop is in a 29.58 ml. (sounds better than 1 oz.) bottle with a twist top
dropper and I pay under $3 for it.  Read the warnings as to not leave it on
painted surfaces and it is poison.  (most things like this are.)  It is a
glass bottle and a plastic top so it will not hurt a container made of
either.  I use a lid from a milk jug with a cotton ball.  One drop is enough
to clear it out of a case.  Four drops in a room clears paint odor.  (For
paint odors I prefer a cruise vacation to Hawaii....for a month.  When I
return the odor is gone!!)

I have always found it in laundry and cleaning products isle.  It is a small
bottle that is clear glass with a green and white cap (the liquid is green
and matches the lid).  The paper backing is green and white.  It is on a peg
board hanging as it is small.  A bottle lasts a long time.  I have had them
dry up (DH left top open) before I used them up.

Ozone Chamber for odors.

As for the Ozone chamber.....do not put rubber or plastics used on the
machine in the chamber.  (like the "tire" on the bobbin winder, the belt or
the wiring on the machine in the chamber.  It will not show very quickly but
ozone speeds up the breakdown of the molecules.  

Ozone is three oxygen molecules together.  The extra one is looking for a
home in the worse way.  Rubber and some plastic products are long chains of
molecules (like spaghetti) that has points one it which bond happily with the
extra oxygen molecule.  The results is the brittle cracking we see on the
rubber and coated wireing in older machines.  It is going to happen over
time, but ozone speeds it up.  The chamber would really speed it up.  

The reason I know about this is I have worked with the ozone chamber in
testing the cured rubber and plastic products as it simulates time.  Heavy
ozone is found in closed in areas.  It used to be called "dry rot" when tires
would crack after being stored in a closed building for a long time. 

Hope this helps all of you.  BTW it is OK to use UPS if you are using Option

Blessed Be
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 11/19/97
Date: Sat, 22 Nov 1997 12:25:43 +0000

To Linda re Singer lube

Don't worry about the excess air when lubing the Singer motor  -- there are
plenty of air gaps at the lower end of the lube tube.Although the grease is
high-melting point is does  thin down when the motor gets hot and the wick
system does seeem to work surprisingly well.

Date: Sat, 22 Nov 1997 01:31:20 -0800
Subject: musty cases, freeing screws

Well, it has been 6 weeks since I cleaned those 4 FW cases according to
the process given below, and still no musty odor has returned. If anyone
else has luck with it, please let us know!

To eliminate Musty Odor: Spray inside and outside with DIAL
Anti-Bacterial cleaner. It comes in a spray like Fantastik. Let it set
and wipe it down. Let it dry. I think this is the part that does the
trick!  Then I use an upholstery protectant or silicone spray to give a
protective coat and on the FW cases a nice shine to the black cloth. On
the 301 case I ususally do Armor-All. Give this plenty of time to dry. 

While I'm at it, I might as well tell you how I keep my 301 machines
nice and shiny and polished. Dip the face plate, needle plate,
attachments, screws, etc. (metal parts) all in LESTOIL and the yellowy
grunge just drops off - you can watch the Lestoil turn colors. On the
painted areas I use Corning stovetop/corningware cleaner on the 301's,
then polish with GUARDSMAN'S concentrate furniture polish. Let it dry
and voila! All done. I've tried auto polished but they require multiple
steps and I was never happy with results. The Guardsman tip came from a
Singer repairman. I sometimes do a light spraying of silicone before the
Guardsman and let that dry. My husband uses this on fiberglass and says
this helps to hide scratches.

now, I am catching up on reading my FWF posts, so bear with me if this
is redundant. But on getting those screws to move with a screwdriver if
WD-40 does not work. DH showed me how to put screwdriver on screw, tap
lightly with hammer to set the screwdriver tip firmly into the screw (so
it cannot rotate and ruin the screw), then try it again. Usually works
for me.

Luck! Millie
Subject: Tan Godzilla FW
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 23:28:16 -0500

Treated myself to an afternoon antiquing.  Saw a first for me, a FW with a
godzilla finish, and color a cream/tan.  Does anyone know if this is an
authentic color on a godzilla?  I thought perhaps someone had painted it,
because the finish was not in good  shape--lots of chipped places with a
darker color showing through.  What do you think?

Date: Sat, 22 Nov 1997 00:28:16 -0800
Subject: Singer items, new web site

Greetings, I have been meaning to write about 2 Singer items I recently
encountered. One is a coffee/tea maker (plastic, big, square, a lot like
a Mr. Coffee) which I bought at a rummage sale for $1.50. It is in
original box, like new, and while it is not terribly old, I just thought
it neat to see that Singer made this item. It also grinds coffee beans
and automatically goes from grinding to brewing coffee. No, I did not
need another coffee pot, but I'm sure you all understand that I COULD
NOT leave it behind!

While at the J.C.Penney catalog desk I spied a Singer toy sewing
machine. The clerk brought it down from the shelf and opened it. What a
pathetic, lightweight, cheap looking product it is. I cannot imagine
that they will sell many. Or if they do sell them, they will be

Does the expression "If you build it, they will come" apply to web pages
as well as to baseball fields?? I hope so because Maggie Arlotta has
built a web site for my needlework offerings and I invite you all to
visit there to check it out!

Arrived at Cape Cod tonight and bought a paper. In a special free ad
section is a 221 advertised for $35. This same ad listing comes in the
Tuesday paper also, so I knew the machine was long gone but I had to
call anyway. The gentleman said he wished he had had a few dozen of
these machines, he could have sold them all!  Some lucky person got a
great deal and I am sure he/she knows it!

Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 11/20/97 - Singer History Week
Date: Sat, 22 Nov 1997 15:22:15 -0000

        In response to Linda's suggestion, the following may be of


         1851 Isaac Singer Merritt Singer went into business with Edward
         Clark, a New York Lawyer and Zeiber who initially lent him 40
         dollars. From age 12 to 40, Singer had been a roustabout and ham
         actor in a travelling repatory theatre. He had an addiction to
         woman: 24 children, 2 wives and 3 recorded mistresses.

         Their improved machine, based on one designed by Elias Howe Jnr
         resulted in a law suit from the latter. Clark fought the suit in
         return for a one third share of the company. Zeiber fell ill and
         sold his share to the other two for 6000 dollars. Soon each of the
         then four manufacturers were suing each other. They formed instead
         the Sewing machine Combination, the USA's first patent pool, until
         1877 when the last of the patents expired. Clark introduced the
         first hire purchase plan to help sales with a fee of 5 dollars down
         and four dollars a month. This contributed to quick success.

         1856 - first Family Machine - the Turtleback, which was set up on
         its own packing case.
         1875 - Singer died at Paignton, England.
         1867 - George Ross McKenzie, a Vice President of the Company set up
         a factory in Scotland. Born Rothiemurchus in 1821 and had arrived
         in the USA in 1846. In 1851 he joined Singer as a cabinet maker
         apprentice. Became a director in 1863.

         First manufacture in Glasgow was in Love Loan of f John Street.
         1869- Larger factory James Street, Bridgeton, 600 machines per
         week. Bought land at Kilbowie after failing to purchase a plot at
         Bonnybridge near Ure's Foundry who supplied their castings. The
         Kilbowie plot was 46 acres on the North British Railway and Forth
         & Clyde canal.
              A clock tower was built in Scots Baronial style, 50 feet
         square, 226 1/2 ft high with a 53 ft flagpole on top. The pole was
         used by a Glasgow firm of optical instrument manufacturers (Barr
         and Stroud?) for ranging and testing. The clock was a four sided
         turret clock each face 26 ft in diameter (Sf t larger than Big
         The hour hands were 8' 9U long,70 lbs; the minute hands were 12' 8
         1/4",841b. Surmounted by SINGER in l3ft letters. Until 1928 it was
         driven by 23cwt cast iron weights, wound up on Tuesdays and
         Saturdays by 4 men which took 15 minutes.
              The factory turf cutting was carried by McKenzie who at a
         celebratory lunch afterwards toasted the health of "our Sovereign
         lady - Victoria - Queen of England"! Factory was completed in 1883
         and in full production in 1884. Planned for 3500 employees to
         produce 8000 machines weekly.
              McKenzie became the Singer President when Edward Clark died
         shortly afterwards.

        1907 - the railway was moved 200 yards northwards - the Glasgow to
         Helensburgh line ran through the factory in 1882. A new station was
         built to replace Kilbowie Station and called Singer.

         1913 was an outstanding year when 1,301,851 machines were shipped.

         1941 Nights of 13 and 14 March - heavy damage from an air raid.
         148,000 machines in Outward Shipping destroyed.

         1941 Board of trade sanctioned certificates for 800 industrial
         machines per week. Then severe restrictions leading to an upsurge
         in second hand machine trade and demand for spares.

         1942 Saw increasing war production work: tank track links, fuse
         setting machines,rifle components, bayonets, sten guns, bullet
         cores, shell fuses, primers, grenade needles, camshaft brackets for
         Rolls Royce merlin engine, hose clip screws, aircraft spark plugs,
         Lancaster bomber spares,  submerged self priming petrol pumps,
         signal pistols, life jacket lights, oxygen economizer for aircrew.

         1958 Bridgeport transferred their industrial sewing machine work to
         other factories. Clydebank received mainly specialist machines.

         Machine suffix of W (from Wheeler and Wilson who originally owned
         the Bridgeport factory before Singer bought it) changing to K (for

         1961-64 4m spent on new buildings, plant method, innovation. Main
         building and clock tower demolished.

         Post World War II - drop in demand for wooden cabinets. Hardwood,
         mainly birch from Finland and Canada becoming more expensive to buy
         and transport.

         1972 - factory closed.

Date: Sat, 22 Nov 1997 00:05:52 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 11/19/97

Oil and lube

It is very important that you read your manual before you start oiling.  The
lube is for the motor "pots" (and some gears on the newer machines).  Do not
use machine oil.  This is like comparing cooking oil and Crisco.  They have
different appearences for a good reason.  We want the oil to flow where we
need it to in the parts where metal touches metal.  The singer motors cannot
use a flowing oil.  It uses the lube that is like vasaline (in fact you could
use vasaline).  This is so it will NOT flow into areas that cannot become
slick or bye bye motor.  

I found an exception to this in the White badge machine I own (World Rotary).
 The pots are filled with fibers like felt and you put 2 drops of machine oil
on them.  The manual clearly tells you this.....have not seen this on a FW or
any other Singer.


I have held back on this story as I cannot verify it but I remember that in a
class on marketing Singer was discussed.  The salesmen (sorry, not a PC slip,
they were all men) were very good at developing markets that the first whites
known to the Chinese farmers and rural communites were Singer Salesmen.  The
missonaries (I cannot spell) were not welcomed into the communites unless
they had replacement parts and Singer machines.  

Sales were increased when they sold them "on time" payment plans.  This was
innovative as most could not buy a 150 machine when the income for the year
was less than that.  Communities, especially church groups, were buying a
machine a women were taking turns making clothing on them.  Singer wanted it
stopped as you  could add at least 10 potential sales if a community machine
was not available.  To get families to see the ease of owning one in the home
one of Singer's salesmen came up with the idea.  Much as we love our
machines, this was business and Singer was one h*** of a business
man....notice I did not use the word ethical?

Singer's personal life makes for a great soap opera if you like history.
 Several of the websites have that story.  

Blessed Be
Date: Sat, 22 Nov 1997 16:05:49 -0500
Subject: 221Centennial 

I have raved so much to my mom about my FW that she is thinking of 
buying one for herself.  She was looking at one that had the 
centennial logo.  I would appreciate any infomation about the 
centennial machines, both historical and collectable.  She also has a 
301.  She claims that it never has sewed equally.  On a seam one end 
always ended up shorter than the other.  I can vouch for that.  : )  
Is this a problem that the 301 slant needle had, or is there a remedy 
that comes to mind.  One final question, I found a Singer zig-zag 
attatchment called a style-o-matic #161102, 1960.  Will this fit a FW 
or a 99?  Thanks for all your help.  

Date: Sat, 22 Nov 1997 10:58:47 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 11/20/97

Simple Green

There are mixed feelings about the product.  I think it is OK for the modern
finish like on the 301 and later.   I do not use it on any machine that has
the detail design work.  It is an acid, a very mild one, and I am concerned
about the Japanned finish and the ones that are clear coated (Redeye is one).
 Try it on a junker or a spot that you would not mind the finish being
lifted.  If anything comes off that is paint black you are lifting the
finish.  Most grime is a brown/black.  Even the oil if you look closely.

I use ground up Ivory soap and water and what stays...stays.  I want them to
keep their "age" to a degree.  If the problem is very bad I use WD 40 and
lightly buff then the soap to clean it off.  I bought a red eye that was
"cleaned" for me before I was aware of the problems and the design started
flaking off.  I do not know what they used .   

Dressmaker machine

I have one with the Godzilla finish too.  The finish does not hold the name
or and details.  It will just come off over time.  This is very true on the
local reworked ones during the WW2.  Some locals did not even bother to put
the design on as the machines were in such demands.

History (a little off the Singer path)

One of my favorite old sewing books if one for the home sewer to make
clothing from suits.  It is very long on using suits and a little about
dressed.  I was thinking that we lost so many men and those that were in the
war were not using the suits left at home.....  Cloth was rationed if
available at all.  Still have my mom's ration books.  

A quilt was found in Rockmart, Ga that was made from blue and grey material.
 The age was authenticated.....it was from uniforms. So home sewers have
always "use it up, wear it out, make do or do without."

Note:  I worte this whole thing with the female as the sewer.  Then I
remembered that we have never held the honor of being the only people to be
home sewers....I have a 1939 Singer from a gentleman that took it to war and
brought it home.  He continued to make clothes for the family and the wife
never sewed.  So I rewrote it.

Blessed Be
Subject: machines sighted in exotic locations
Date: Sat, 22 Nov 1997 13:47:00 -0800

I just got back from a trip to the Mediterranean, where I spotted a few SM's.  I saw an old industrial (?) treadle in use in Cairo, Egypt and one in Cypress (didn't get close enough to see what the makes were).  In Rome, I spotted a Singer 15 and a White-looking SM in two clothing store windows (used as display), and I saw one of those treadle leg tables in an antique store.

We went to the Grand Bazaar in Istanbul, Turkey.  It's been an active marketplace for 600 years.  We went to the antiques area, and I ended up with an interesting Singer oil can and another old SM oil can as my only souvenirs from Turkey. : )  I'll put pictures on my web page sometime.

I also managed to pet every cat I could get near (one even climbed into my lap) and ended up with a picture of at least one cat from every country we visited except Cypress (Greece, Turkey, Egypt, Israel, Cypress, and Italy).

Oh yes, we also saw the pyramids and lots of old ruins and buildings.  : )

Date: Thu, 20 Nov 1997 13:21:58 -0600
Subject: My turn for a bargain!

Well, I did it. Dh has been finding FWs for a long time, and even found my
cabinet and my table. 

I found a table this morning! 

I passed one of those garage sales on the side of the road on my way into
town this morning, and one of the card tables caught my eye - I don't know
why!  But I got it into my head that it was a featherweight table in
disguise (it was covered with red naugahyde). On my way back out, I stopped
at the bank and got out $50 cash "just in case".  I felt like a dunce when I
parked and walked up just to look underneath the table...but it WAS a FW
table! It WAS!  At first the owner was a bit confused as to why I wanted to
buy his table...but when I told him I"d be glad to pay enough for him to buy
a new one, he musta figured I was nuts.  He set a price of $15, I paid him
$30.  I did tell him the reason I wanted it was that it was made for a
sewing machine I had at home. His daughter was amazed, she'd never noticed
the cutout or the underpinnings, and she is going straight home to check the
rest of their tables out!

I brought it home and got out my hammer to unhammer the upholstery tacks
holding the naugahyde on.  One chip of the rim came out :-(.  The finish
beneath is gone in most places, but the wood is all perfect except for 2
burns.  YIPPEE!!!  And the insert is there...and even less worn than the
table.  The name taped and marked on the underside of the table is that of
the family of one of my Aerobics instructors...now if I could just remove
the rest of the tacks!

I was trying to hide it in front of my car when DH drove up for lunch...his
eyes were enormous (all 'my' machines and stuff is really 'his' he says).

Happy happy me!

Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 11/18/97
Date: Sat, 22 Nov 1997 12:58:55 +0000

To Annie

The Compac was indeed made in Japan and simply marketed in the USA. A lot
of this went on in the 1950s and 60s. Morse is another good example.

To Tinner re New Home and Sewmor

For Sewmor see reply above. For New Home information you could try the
company at 201 825 3200.

To Linda re white belts

Certainly "unused" white/green 221s always seem to come in with white belts
but I don't know of an source of replacements.

To Kathleen

There's a lot of information on Free at the ISMACS web site


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