Featherweight Fanatics Archives

December 1997

Sunday, November 30 - Saturday, December 6

Date: Sun, 30 Nov 1997 01:15:40 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Yes! A centenial!

Hello Feathers,
We bought our first auction featherweight today.  In our excitment of finally
seeing one at an auction and trying to be totally cool about it, we
completely missed the fact that it was a centenial until afterwards!  It runs
really smooth & nice, but had lots of use.  I don't know what they sewed with
it, but there were _lots_ of fine pin (?) scratches all over the bed and just
a small amount of wear on the decals.  One of the bobbins is filled with
white thread that looks like it's carpet thread.  There was a huge needle in
the accessory box.  Maybe they were sewing tarps or sails?  The accessories
are incomplete & the box was *completely* covered with first masking tape and
then black electrical tape!  No manual but there was a Singer pamplet
describing all (?) the centenial machines & their cabinets.  Neat!

There wasn't much good stuff at this small auction & I don't think the
auctioneer had a clue about the machine.  It was advertised in the listing as
'older portable Singer sewing machine.'  He started the bidding at $5 & went
up in $2.50 increments, and it kept going and going and....   DH was at his
limit when the the other last hold out gave up.  When the bidding ended the
auctioneer yelled to his helpers "Bring out the other sewing machines!"  He

That makes 4 centenial Singers now.  :-)
Gail R.
Subject: 221
Date: Sat, 29 Nov 1997 17:24:21 -1100

I worked for the Singer Sewing Machine Company for 9 years as a repairman
and had my own store for 10 years.  I would like to offer this tip.  It is
a simple fix and some of you may all ready know this, but those who don't.
If you have ever had trouble with it breaking thread and jamming
frequently, the problems lies in the hook area.  It is caused by the loop
guard.  The loop guard is held on by one screw on the back side of the
You can remove the hook simply by undoing the two set screws that hold it
to the shaft.  The are located behind where you put in the bobbin case and
can be accessed from the bottom.  Remove one screw at a time and locate the
one that sits on a flat spot.  When you remove the hook, you must put this
screw back in line with the flat spot, or else you'll have it 180 degrees
out of time.  The two screws are opposite of each other.  Once you have
located the two screws, remove the one for the flat spot and loosen the
other.  You may then remove the hook assembly.  You'll need to run the
other screw back into its hole to remove the loop guard.  Pay close
attention to how the loop guard is mounted, you'll have to put it back
exactly as it came off.  It is held by one screw and is located on the back
side of the hook, as mentioned above.  On the loop guard face, you may find
it all roughed up.  This is where the needle rubs it as you sew.  This is a
factory setting and cannot be avoided, it just happens.  Simply smooth the
roughness off of the loop guard face, with either a moto tool and a
polishing wheel.  The polishing wheel is a gray round stone and will work
well for this.  I don't recall the moto tool part number for the stone, but
anyway any one who use's a moto tool a lot should be familiar with it, as
well as most hardware stores or hobby shops that carry moto tool parts.  If
a moto tool is not available, light sand paper will also do the trick, just
takes longer.  The point is that the loop guard face must be smooth to the
touch.  Once you have smoothed it out, put it back together just like it
came apart and your Feather Weight is back in business.  This also works
for the Singer 301, which is sort of the big brother to the Feather Weight,
but has a gear drive motor.
I have other tips to help with the Singer 401, 403, 404, 501, 503 models if
any one has one of those and has problems with them breaking thread as
well.  Use a plastic bobbin, some metal bobbins are pressed together and
have the pressing ring exposed in the center of the bobbin.  This exposed
ring hangs below the bobbin case and is what cause's these machines to jam
and lock up.  You can feel the ring my just running your finger nail across
the bobbin, if it has a snag as you pass over the surface of the bobbin
near the center, it will most likely be the cause of your problems.  Some
older metal bobbins were smooth, but most now have the ring.  You'll need
to purchase plastic bobbins for a 66 class model.
Hope you find this helpful.
Happy Sewing.
Date: Sun, 30 Nov 1997 10:27:07 -0500
Subject: singer ball bearing pinking attachment no. 121021

On Thanksgiving, my four year old daughter opened a drawer at her
grandmother's house and pulled out a box marked "singer ball bearing
pinking attachment no. 121021 - I have an old featherweight from my
grandmother circa 1928? and would love to use this part.  There is no
manual and no other parts in the box.  Please e-mail info.  I  also have
a buttonhole attachment for a featherweight and am willing to exchange
for hand held pinking attachment. Looking forward to your response.
Subject: Toy Elna
Date: Sun, 30 Nov 1997 11:36:48 -0600

Hi Everybody,

I just recently found a little toy Elna that I thought maybe one of you
might know something about.  It looks much like a handcrank miniature of the
Elna "grasshopper," olive green, free arm, and all.  It also has a Swiss
music box inside that  actually plays Blue Danube.  On the front it says
"Elna Junior" and then toward the bottom it says in small print "made in
Geneva Switzerland."  The serial number is a bit difficult to read, but I
think it is 110967.  It didn't come with a case or manual, but it is still
in excellent condition.  Do any of you know anything about this machine?
I've checked several sites on the Internet and have seen nothing about a toy
Elna at all and I don't have Glenda Thomas' book.

Thank you to all of you for sharing all of your information.  I have a few
antique machines and love learning more about them form you posts.  Of
course, I have a little featherweight that I treasure.

Happy Holidays!

Date: Sun, 30 Nov 1997 13:40:27 -0500
Subject: Singer Coin

Just a quick note to let you all know the scanned photo of the Singer
Coin is now on our web page.  Address above.  Take care,
Subject: FW Motor
Date: Sun, 30 Nov 1997 14:50:16 -0600

I've been told that I should "baby" my Featherweight and just use it for
piecing...not quilting. I purchased a walking foot for it, and I quilted a
lap quilt for my mother while she was in the nursing home. Now I'm
concerned. I was told that the motor cannot be replaced if it wears out. Is
this true?  Should I quilt on it or not?
Date: Sun, 30 Nov 1997 16:54:54 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 11/17/97

The AlphaSew I am using is all metal - $10 - $12 depending on the dealer. I
got mine from Glenn Williams - he deals in FW parts, etc. His e-mail address
gwillie37@aol.com if you're interested in more information. I have the foot
on my Fw'a and on my 301's.
Subject: Centennial 66
Date: Sun, 30 Nov 1997 19:42:15 -0500

Hi -- Would anyone on the list be interested in a centennial model 66 (I
believe)?  It is the head only, no motor, slide plate, or attachments.  The
cabinet was pulverized and the shop owner was throwing it in the trash.  I
brought the machine head home, but it's been parked under a coffee table
since, and I think it should go someplace where it will be appreciated,
even if only for its parts!  SN is AJ844066.  
  I live in the Hudson Valley, halfway between White Plains and
Poughkeepsie.  Let me know if you want to make the trip, or if you just
want more details.  

Date: Sun, 30 Nov 1997 21:06:50 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Spartan

Hello everyone!  Does anyone know if the Singer "Spartan" is supposed to have
the red felt thing in the bobbin case like the Singer 99?   I just bought a
Spartan, and there isn't a red felt piece in the bobbin.  I don't know  a
whole lot about my Spartan, other than it is a plain jane 99, and that it was
made around 1960 in Scotland.  Does anyone know if it came in different
colors?  Mine is black.  Thanks for any information!!!

Subject: Key for Bentwood case
Date: Sun, 30 Nov 1997 16:54:35 +0000 

Please excuse the general broadcast.  I misplaced the 
message containing this information.

Would whoever responded to my message about purchasing a 
key for a Singer bentwood case please contact me again.  I 
misplaced your message and address.

I need the key for a 99.


Date: Sun, 30 Nov 1997 13:40:23 -0800
Subject: Elna

Hi all. Is there a site on the net that gives photos of the various
models of the Elna Machines.   Jack
Subject: another Singer product
Date: Mon, 1 Dec 1997 01:25:00 +0000

DD and her new husband just bought an 82 year old house.  So instead of
quilting last week, I found myself putting coats of primer paint on old
walls.  When I got around to the first floor bathroom, I noticed that the
wall heater was a Singer.  Anyone with info on these?

Date: Sun, 30 Nov 1997 18:30:15 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Re: Welcome to FW Fanatics!!

Hi: Iam new to the list and new to collecting old machines.  I am a
professional machine quilter by trade.  I saw a portable machine at an
estate sale this weekend made by NATIONAL.  Have any of you ever heard of
this company?  It was made in the U.S. It is electric with the motor driving
by friction rather than with a belt.  Has a wood base but no cover.  Price
was $35.00. Is it worth it?
Any help would be greatly appreciated.  Also found a 1953 Featherweight made
in England this weekend for $150.00 complete and in great shape.  Snapped it
up and am very happy.  Thanks Don 
Subject: A  Late FW Sighting
Date: Mon, 1 Dec 1997 13:56:22 -0000

Many have probably seen this but I got my LC Patchwork Quilts  Dec. '97
today because it comes overseas but there is a lovely picture of a Fw on
page 26 and a treadle machine just like mine.

Date: Mon, 1 Dec 1997 10:52:52 -0500 (EST)
Subject: 401 Parts Needed

I recently purchased a singer 401 A that is mising the hinged metal plate
that covers the top section where the cams go. I was told it  has the stitch
codes printed on it.Also I would like to buy an accessory kit & cams . If any
one knows where to purchase these please email me. My local Singer repair
shop said they are available. Thanks & Happy Holidays to you all!
Subject: Re: Cynthia England's Web Page
Date: Mon, 1 Dec 1997 09:13:10 -0500

I've been getting a lot of E-Mail about Cynthia's address since I added the
note re: making Wallpaper out of her "Feather Weight" quilt.  Here is her
address:  http://www.englanddesign.com/studiog.htm   I guess I just assumed
everyone had the address as it had appeared on past Newsletters.  We all know
what "assuming" means!  Sorry.
Date: Mon, 1 Dec 1997 00:59:50 -0500 (EST)
Subject: treadle bobbin help needed

I just got my 27 treadle up and running for my 11 year old DD, who used to be
deathly afraid of sewing machines.  She LOVES this machine, possibly because
it has no motor, possibly because it's a lot of fun.  The only problem I'm
having is when I thread the bobbin.  It sticks on the right hand side causing
too much thread to pile up there.  It seems like little bar goes over to far.
 Is there anyway to adjust that?

This machine was really rusted when I bought it, but it had a nice cabinet
and a puzzle box with (almost) all the attachments and someday I'll figure
out what's really missing!  The price was worth those two things without the
machine.  I worked on it one day and there is no rust at all on it now!  It
looks beautiful.  I'm hoping this will give DD a chance to be bitten by the
sewing/sewing machine bug!  She's already invaded my fabric stash!

Take Care,
Date: Mon, 1 Dec 1997 11:07:11 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re:  FW Fanatics 11/28/97

I have been receiving the Fanatics newsletter for several weeks and now have
a few questions:
1. I have two FW's and am having problems with them. They work well for
awhile and then suddenly stop picking up the top thread so that they won't
make a stitch. At other times, the thread breaks every inch or so. I have the
book about Featherweights and have tried to adjust the tension, but it has
not helped much. Can anybody help me?

2. Because of the above, I have started re-using the machine on which I sewed
clothes for my children. It is a Stylist, model #457. I have not seen this
model discussed by anyone. It works well for me, except that triangular quilt
patches sometimes get eaten. Any comments about this machine?

3. Many people mention various models of Singers. How can I find out what you
are referring to? What are models 101, 201, and 301? Is there a book

4. I have boxes full of attachments that I can't identify. Is there a book
with pictures that describes the use of each one and has pictures for

5. I know of a FW that is for sale but it is missing the bobbin case. Are
they available, and how much do they cost?

That's a lot of questions...thanks in advance for taking the time to help me
out. I would especially appreciate email from someone who knows how to keep
my FW's stitching well again.

Date: Mon, 1 Dec 1997 17:20:05 EST
Subject: spool spring

Greetings, fellow feathers!  I have lurked on this list for awhile and have
enjoyed your postings a great deal.  I now would like any help you can give me
in locating a spring for the spool holder on my 221.  I tried Stepping Stones,
but they no longer have a source and ask that if anyone knows of one, to let
them know, too!!I hope you can help.  Please e-mail me as I am on digest form.
Also, for anyone in the Los Angeles area, I saw an old singer machine
(electric) in a very nice white wood cabinet in the Farmer"s Market at 3rd and
Fairfax.  It is in the Showcase Gallery there, a mishmosh of so-called antique
dealers.  It was @ $150, and in one of the drawers was what looked like a
puzzle box as I have seen it described on this list.  The box was full of
attachments and there were bobbins in the drawer. On the side of the machine
it said "model 55k" and had a serial # "G4405729".  Might be worth a trip if
anyone is interested.  Let me know if you need further instructions on where
to find it. Thanks in advance!  Susan
Subject: Refurbishing old Singers
Date: Mon, 01 Dec 1997 18:44:34 EST

Hello feathers,

1.  Has anyone used clear epoxy to fill scrapes or pits on the machine
base?  I've seen white epoxy at WalMart for repairing enamel sinks.  I
couldn't find black epoxy.

2.  What is the best precaution to use on worn, flaking enamel on the
machine base?  I don't want to disturb the gold decals.    Just wax it
with carnauba car wax?  Will this prevent further flaking?  This is a
machine I plan to use.

Date: Mon, 01 Dec 1997 21:45:47 -0600
Subject: FW Quilt Patterns


I hope you have had a chance to see the great new FW quilt pattern from
Cynthia England.  If you went to the Houston Quilt Festival, you
probably know what I'm talking about.  If  you haven't seen it, check
out Cynthia's Web page at:   http://www.englanddesign.com/
There are all sorts of different patterns here, and you can order
directly from Cynthia here.   Give it a look.

By the way, I recently acquired a beautiful 201.  Well, it does need
cleaning (exterior only).  What is the safest way to remove 50+ years of
grime.  I don't want to remove the gold lettering, only the cruddy stuff
that is stuck to it.  I think a lot of it is cigarette smoke.  Anyway,
your hints are greatly appreciated.

Date: Mon, 01 Dec 1997 21:38:31 -0500
Subject: New SMs!

Hi Everyone,
	Well, DH and I trotted off to the auction last Friday night.  Might I
add that this was after convincing ourselves that we had all the SMs we
wanted.  However, we decided to preview the auction and there were
several SMs to be found.  One was a Singer in a seven drawer cabinet,
machine was o.k. (pre-1900) but the cabinet was in very good shape.  A
few other treadles, but nothing worth mentioning.  BUT there was a toy! 
The bidding went a little high, but not terrible.  Got the Singer
treadle for $70 and the toy for $40.  Had no idea what make the toy was,
just thought it cute. I found a similar toy on Bob Campbell's website, a
Muller No. 5.  However, mine has a flat, fiddle-shaped base and is
bolted onto a thin strip of wood.  It doesn't have a paw-foot base.  The
number on the cloth-plate is 407290.  There are no other marks that I
can find.  The machine is black, with a red and green bird, flowers and
cherries.  Is it possible it's a reproduction of a Muller, and not the
real thing?  Well, it's cute.  The treadle cabinet was packed with
buttons, notions, and lots of stuff with ads, like thimbles and needle
packets.  Also has a Singer attachment I can't quite figure out.  The
number on it is 160616.  DH says it's a ZZ.  Also picked up a turquoise
blue Singer in a portable case for $10.  This one has no model number on
it and weighs approximately 1.3 tons, SS with a drop-in bobbin and very
clean.  On Saturday morning, we traveled to nearby towns.  Picked up a
Jetson buttonholer, with extra feed-dog cover and extra cams for $6. 
And found a buttonholer which doesn't use the cams.  The stitch bight
and spacing have to be set with levers on the side.  I haven't seen one
like it before, but I'm sure it's not uncommon.  The instructions
mention the pinker and the new "Featherweight" machine.  The latest date
on the instructions is 1946, though.  Have spotted some likely looking
SMs at local places lately.
	Anyone who happens to be in the Columbia, South Carolina area this
weekend, stop by the State Museum and say "Hi".  I'll be displaying some
of my machines at the collector's show.  TTFN.

Date: Mon, 01 Dec 1997 07:38:18
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 11/28/97

Thanks Moonsage for the input on the Spartan.  I think I will go back today
and take a second look at it.

Is anyone familuar with a Elgin treadle sewing  machine.  My MIL has one in
a beautiful  oak cabinet.  I have found info on the Elan machines, but not
the Elgin.

Any body know anything on this machine??????

Also this past weekend I did not go to the malls to shop I went to the junk
sotres.  I found lots of SM.  One in particular was a White Rotoary machine
in a Martha Washington cabinet.  It has the attatchments and the orginal
manuel.  I keep going back to it, but the price was $165.  It was in a 9+
shape.  I guess I am going to have to get a job......

Date: Mon, 1 Dec 1997 22:38:44 -0500
Subject: 201 and 301 Motors

I know the 201 and 301 (slant needle) are both gear-driven machines.  I
also know the 201 is very heavy and the 301 is light.  Is the 201's motor
much stronger than the 301 or is the main difference in the materials the
machines are made of?  

My reason for asking is that I have run out of space (again) in my sewing
room and am considering selling either my 201 or 301.  I haven't sewn on
my 301, but I have made some curtains on my 201 and it is nice, but I
really like the lighter weight of the 301 since I can move it around more
easily.  I like the idea of keeping the 201 for very heavy fabrics
(really heavy).  Will the 301 handle really heavy stuff?  I know I need
to conduct my own test, but wondered what opinions FWFs might share.

What I think I have just said is that I hope you will tell me the 301
will handle everything that the 201 will and the advantage is that it is
lighter in weight.    

Date: Mon, 01 Dec 1997 20:14:49 -0600
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 11/28/97

Happy Holidays to all.
Just thought I'd mention something a friend recently showed me.  She
found out I was interested in Singer machines, sewing things.  She
brought out a box about 5 x 8 (I didn't notice what it said at first)
and inside the perfect box was a "purse".  It was a navy velvet with
studded little shiny diamonds all over it, EXCELLENT shape.  It had a
strap of the same fabric across the length of it about 3/4 inch wide. 
She lifted it out of the box and I think twisted the clasp on the front
side to open and oh what a pretty sight!  Ooddles of tiny little never
used Cortecelli thread- not a one missing, and in the top cover was a
pocket holding scissors, needles, and I don't know what else.  This was
gorgeous.  It had belonged to someone in her family and she asked me
what it was worth.  I haven't the slightest idea.  I know it's worth
what someone will pay!  I too am curious what it's really worth.  In
some parts of the country its worth more than others. Does any one
recognize this sewing kit and willing to tell me what it's worth?
Date: Mon, 01 Dec 1997 22:32:23
Subject: Fun finds

Dear fellow SM junkies

I went today with my MIL to several antique/junk stores.  I found a Singer
model 28 in the bentwood case.  Problem is one of the ends is out of the
bentwood case and one of the latches is gone.   Also I didn't get the plug
in and the knee bar.  Anyone have  spares that want to let go :-)  The
machine is in really great shape, and I hate to tell you what I paid for
it....$7.00.  I got it from the sweetest elderly man and woman.  They have
an antique store with all kinds of old sewing machines just piled up on
their porch. Some of the cabinets were in really sad shape. I started going
through the drawers to see what I could fine.  I found a button hole
attatchment in a deep red plastic box # 160743 complete ( what ever that
means).  It appears to fit a slant shank machine...I am hopeing a
301...........anyway I paid  $3.00.  I had to promise the little lady I
would come back and we would dig through the pile together on a much warmer

I then went to another place an found the head of a Singer 99K made in
Great Britian.  It was a bit stove up, but I put lots of oil and WD40 and
it seems lots better.  I am missing the bobbin plate for that one.

I also found a little white plastic SM toy.  It is calles a Sew Easy.  I
thought it was cute so I bought it.......this makes about 17 machines....

Date: Mon, 1 Dec 1997 10:20:09 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Elna Supermatic

I found one!   A motor pulley for my Supermatic, that is.  

I thought I'd have nothing to lose by checking in with my local, very
capable, Viking sm service guy and, voila! - sure he had a little bag full of
them.  (Don't know why I didn't try this weeks ago.)  And only $15. plus tax.
 My DH put it on and the little green charmer just zooms along now.  Since I
only paid $30. for the machine at a thrift shop a few months ago I'm feeling
that I really got a bargain.

If anyone else needs a Supermatic motor pulley I'm sure this shop will do
phone/mail orders.  E-mail me privately for the name, etc. if interested.

Blanche - My Supermatic also has a knee power control (I thought they all
did, but what do I know?).  But, the grasshopper may be different; I've never
seen one in person.

Date: Mon, 01 Dec 1997 18:21:48 -0800
Subject: 301 shortbed needed

Hi feathers,
I am looking for a shortbed for my 301. Anyone got a shortbed to trade
or buy at reasonable cost?
Thanks in advance,
Date: Tue, 2 Dec 1997 01:20:04 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Holiday For Feathers

Hi Feathers,

Am getting so excited! Our Holiday For Mpls Feathers is only two weeks
away.It sounds as though we'll have lots of fun!!! Minn.Feathers don't forget
to tell Susan G that you are going to join us. It's Dec.13th at 11:30 am

My sm finds have been few the past two weeks,but I've been busy looking for
attachments & cams for my Rocketeers ( 500 & 503) with some success. Now have
almost the complete set of cams for both machines,including the elusive # 22
cam with it's special "stretch" foot in a box. Found the single-stitch
needle-plate & most all attachments. This is more fun getting all the parts &
pieces together for a sm & then putting them to use. The rocketeer is a
really fun machine for quilting cuz you can raise the needle plate from a
lever on the front of the machine,instead of lowering the feed dogs. Will
bring some of my excess parts to the Mpls FW gathering for trade or sale.

Happy hunting Everyone!
Hope Santa leaves a FW in your stockings!

Subject: 15-something
Date: Mon, 01 Dec 1997 23:01:18 -0500

I have an AH model 15, with the round stitch-length controller with
reverse, and feed dogs that lower. It's not a 15-91, though, because the
motor is the standard belt-type, not in a pot like 15-91's. So what is
this? Acc. to Capt. Dick's book, the 15-88/89 was only made until 1941,
and the AH serial number puts this at 1947. Could it be a 15-90 or a

Date: Tue, 2 Dec 1997 09:20:46 -0500
Subject: Show & Book Notice

Hi All:

I just heard about an exhibition (and book) that  sounds interesting.  At
the Autry Museum of Western Heritage, Los Angeles is a an exhibition
entitled:  Patterns of Progress:  Quilts in the Machine Age (October 18 -
January 19, 1998).  From the brochure:

"In the 19th century, sewing was women's work--and it was never done.  The
sewing machine changed all that, freeing women from "the tyranny of the
needle and thread." Published by the Autry Museum, Patterns of Progress:
Quilts in the Machine Age examines quilts as clues to the impact of the
sewing machine on the lives and work of Western women.  Beautifully
illustrated with more than 60 spectacular color images, the 128-page book
explores how using the machine changed women's perceptions of the beauty of
their quilts--one said her machine-sewn quilts were "much prettier than
hand work"--and how that aesthetic continues to evolve."

The exhibition is curated by Barbara Brackman, so it must be pretty
special.  I've ordered the book and am expecting it any day.  I'll post my
opinion when I have it in hand.  If you're interested in ordering the book:
 call the Autry at (888)41-Autry.  The book costs $35 for a clothbound
edition , or $19.95 for paperback, plus $6 s/h. 

No affiliation, blah blah.  Just sounded interesting.  If any of you go see
the exhibition, let us know about it.

Take care
Date: Tue, 2 Dec 1997 09:57:18 -0500 (EST)
Subject: this and that

Hi all!
  I hope everyone had a wonderful Turkey Day.  While I primarily collect toy
machines due to lack of space, a few FW have managed to sneak in.  I had the
best time last night cleaning and oilingAH213952, a charming little machine
that runs like a top.  I think part of the reason these machines hang on to
"the odor" is the heavy blotting paper that is inside the bottom plate.  Is
this replaceable?
  My most exciting news of the weekend came from my Dad.  He has been trying
to pin down one of his Flea Market buddies who said he had two toy machines.
 The guy also mentioned a green Singer.  I figured he must be mistaken and
was hoping it was an Elna Grasshopper. Well, surprise, it was a VERY light
green FW.  The case is so different from the black ones.  I can't wait to get
my hands on this although I will definitely sell it.  Dad says it is in
beautiful condition.
He aso picked up two TSM's, a Singer 20 in so-so shape and a newer blue toy
marked "made in Japan" (plate 202 in Glenda Thomas book 1)
  Although I work for a sewing machine dealer and sell top of the line Pfaff
machines, I love the charm of the older machines.  This group is so much fun;
I look forward to reading FWF every day.
                Chow for now!
Date: Tue, 2 Dec 1997 09:59:31 -0500 (EST)

Greg & Mary,

> Here is our contribution to the Singer trivia:
> Durring WW2 Singer did a limited production run of the (originally a
> 1917 COLT design) 45cal automatic pistol, the US military's standard
> issue sidearm until the 1980's.  These Singer 45's are now highly prized
> by collectors, selling for more than $5,000 for one in good condition.

If you can find these for under $5000 I'll take two! They are currently at
least three times that amount!

Happy Featherwieghting,
Date: Tue, 2 Dec 1997 10:53:39 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 11/27/97

Graham,	Great story about your trip to Morocco, but you left out the most
important part: What sewing machines did you find? Inquiring minds want to

Linda, The Singer Bowl was the huge stadium at the New York World's Fair
in 1964/65. Singer made a deal to get the entire display area in the
building, which being near a major fair entry and in the direct path of
all the stadium goers for the main events held in the stadium gave them an
incredible amount of recognition. Having their name on the building
in huge letters didn't hurt either. Singer had an area for purchasing
souvenirs. I have a fantastic uncut Singer paper doll book of children in
costumes from around the world that would have been sold here. Singer had
an area to show off some of their more historical achievements, including
one of the first machines which had recently surfaced and was meticulously
restored. Unfortunately, it was displayed in a really cheesy plastic
bubble which detracted from its significance. There were demonstrators who
showed potential customers how to use Singer's products and as soon as
someone showed a mild interest one of the vulture salespeople swooped in.
The salespeople were from all around the country and had won selling
contests to get the priviledge to be there. This is all off the top of my
head, and I'm sure I'm forgetting a lot. I seem to remember Singer had a
fabric line out that year that was displayed, along with their venture
into non-sewing/vacuum items such as TV's, radios, typewriters, etc.

On another note, I went to an auction this week and a box lot of Singer
things, such as a lube tube, domed oil can, 60's ruler, and 60's keychain
that I was prepared to pay $25 for went for $70. And an employee's pin
that I went as high as $50 on went for about the same. It is really hard
to believe I'm not the only hardcore Singer collector in my area anymore.
I need a new collection, something I can afford, but other than used kitty
litter I can't think of something nobody collects. 

Happy Featherweighting,
Subject: Singer Buttonholer
Date: Tue, 2 Dec 1997 10:01:12 -0700

Hi, I was wondering if anyone could help identify this buttonhole. It is
styled similar to the Singer #121795 and works the same. It says "PAT'D, MAY
23, 1916 MADE IN U.S.A." It also has a number stamped on it "36935". Came
with an instruction and parts manual that states SINGER BUTTONHOLE
ATTACHMENT 121704 For Singer Lockstich Family Sewing Machines. Has with it a
Wooden chisel handle with 3 chisel blades. It does not have the original
box, it came in a 121795 box. Thanks........Charles
Date: Tue, 02 Dec 1997 11:36:01 -0500
Subject: Waffle Irons - For Graham!

Don't you have Waffles in the UK?  They are VERY tasty!  Should you ever
come to New York, please stop in and I'll make some for you!  They are
rather like a pancake, but with wonderful squarish holes on them.  The
iron is "waffled" and creates a grid like design on the cooked batter. 
They hold tons of butter and maple syrup and taste like heaven.  Did I
mention I was on a pre holiday diet, and all this talk of waffles is
very disturbing to me?  Oh-Oh!  Guess I'd better use that cord on my 201
and put that waffle iron way out of reach......now I can't stop thinking
about them......
Date: Tue, 02 Dec 1997 11:30:37 -0500
Subject: Our beloved Captain Dick

HI all!
Forgive the post to both digests, but I never know if people are on BOTH
of them or not.  
I've been feeling pretty badly for Captain Dick with his computer
meltdown and loss of his book materials, etc.  I'd like to propose that
if ANY of us are living near him and have some computer expertise that
we attempt to help him out.  It sounds very devastating, and I wish I
was able to help him re-group.  Is there anything else we can do for
collectively?  I've got my "thinking cap on".  I miss his constant
informative answers and stories, I'm sure we all do.  Please post if you
have any ideas!
Thanks, let's get into the spirit of helpfulness and see what we can
Date: Tue, 02 Dec 1997 13:20:49 -0800

To All FWF,

My friend has a relative who has a Bartlett sewing machine that they
want to sell. They are in Jewel, Iowa. Anybody nearby?
They say that it is over 100 years old. It has patent dates on it of Feb
4, 1896 and Oct. 13, 1898. They can't find the serial number but will
keep looking. There is a lot of decorative trim and wood carving on the
4 drawers.  The head folds down into the cabinet. They say that the
condition is about a 7. If anyone is interested, I will get their phone
number and give it to you. They don't know how much to ask for the
machine. Can anyone tell us about the Bartlett. Is it good, is it rare,
is it worth anything???
Subject: Elna Junior
Date: Tue, 2 Dec 1997 15:05:26 -0800

To Sandy :

	I too have an Elna Junior which plays the Blue Danub, it came in a maroon
carboard carrying case with handle and a book with great instructions. The
booklet it dated September 1956.  It even gives needle and thread guides ,
and calls this machine the "baby sister of the ELNA".  My machine works and
does play the music.  Enjoy your little machine, mine is next to my
"Grasshopper" they look cute together!

Happy Holidays!

Date: Tue, 02 Dec 1997 15:32:08 +0000
Subject: happy dancing around a 99

I am pretty happy today... Over the weekend I went out to some of my
favorite antique mall type places and was literally tripping over SM's!!
Some were price in what I call the "laughable" range..."You want $500.00
for a cabinet without the Machine?".... Some so dirty the needle could not
even penetrate the dust in around the bobbin 8'(  

But I found a charmer, a sweet little 99.  Very nice bentwood case, needs
cleaning and a bit of polish.  The machine was filthy, verging on gross.
But all the bits and pieces were there, including the original green box
loaded with several attachments.  A couple of extra bobbins and a container
of needles.  By the time I got home it was too dark to really see it
clearly, but a general overall cleaning and oiling and it humms right
along.  The cord is very sketchy, is it possible to replace the cord with
one that looks original?  
Did any of these come with a foot peddle (this one only has a knee lever).  

The serial number begins with Y, so somewhere between 1920 and 1935 this
little beauty was making someone very happy.  I am looking forward to
finding out his "real" birth date.  

Can someone recommend reference book(s)?  I have learned SO much from the
Internet about my machines, but would love to "curl up" with a good book
some nights and read more about these SM.

Some of the other machines that I came across were: 2 Wheeler$Wilson
5drawers, a Singer 66 in a VERY nice, VERY light colored (looked original
to me) wooden cabinet. 
A "fiddle shaped" LEADER treadle machine in a 6 drawer cabinet one short
side folded out and it had a beautiful coffin top. A couple of drawer
handles were loose and one was missing.  I loved this one, it almost came
home with me but one of the "sliding plates" that cover the bobbin area,
(there were two-one in front of the foot and one behind the foot) There
were a couple in the accessory box (and old cigar box) but for the life of
me I could not figure out how they fit.  I am considering going back for
this one, could someone tell me anything about it?  What would I be getting
myself into??????
Thanks for all the great stories and keeping rescuing those SM.

Date: Tue, 2 Dec 1997 20:00:32 -0600
Subject: Franklin treadle

I haven't seen my post appear so I am re-sending.  My apologies if it has
appeared but I missed it!

Just went today to see, hear and try my first treadle machine.  It was a
Franklin made ny Sears, Roebuck, & Co. around 1924-26.  Nice decals and good
cabinet (three drawers on each side).  Couldn't identify the wood - it
didn't have the long, straight grain, but was very attractive.  This was my
first try at sewing on one and boy, did I feel clumsy.
I was surprised the machine was so loud (noisy) and wonder if someone could
tell me if this is a characteristic of treadles in general, or was this
machine in need of cleaning and oiling, belt adjustment, or is it just
junky?  By the way, she wanted $100.  I offered her $60 and left my name and
number.  Was this reasonable?  Any comments would be appreciated.  I had
thought that I wanted a treadle and am now having second thoughts.
Date: Wed, 3 Dec 1997 02:14:29 -0500 (EST)

our Elna is illustrated in Glendas second book(Plate 2-212.). I have one
that I need some parts for. It is very collectable. I don't know what you
paid for it but you must have gotten a great bargain. Glenda values it at
$275 to $300 with case . Sounds good? Happy hunting.

Frank D.
Subject: Cynthia England design.....
Date: Tue, 2 Dec 1997 18:24:42 -0600

Sue  wrote........ and forgive me for quoting the entire message but
I think it necessary.....

"Just had to add after reading the notes about this pattern that while the
picture of the quilt looks LOVELY, I wonder if many people are persistent
enough to actually MAKE it! There are a TON of really small little pieces -
no doubt the end product would be worth it, but I don't imagine mine will
ever get sewn! Saw a note in an article about the designer that her
technique was almost like paint by number "

I have had this thought myself.  I printed out the order form for the 
pattern and fabric packet but haven't sent  it out yet.  Procrastination is
one of my worst vices...... however, Ms. England did a program at the Tyler
(TX) Quilt Guild (not the right name, but that is what I know them as) and
I understand that everyone was enthralled and impressed with her work and
presentation........ so who am I to question.

I WOULD like to hear from anyone who has actually made this piece.

Subject: extension table
Date: Tue, 2 Dec 1997 16:37:23 -0800

I have an old picture of a FW extension table on my web site:

The extensions only have two legs because they latch onto a regular FW card table.

Subject: FW
Date: Wed, 3 Dec 1997 06:37:12 -0600

Hi it is wonderful to see all the new FW fanatics on the list and welcome
to a wold of learning about your wonderful little machine.
To Linda re: FW motor. We have encouraged FW owners to use common sense
about using their FW for machine quilting. Long periods of time free motion
quilting or using the walking foot is very hard on the motor. This a much
smaller motor than is found on all other Singer models and after long
periods of the kind of sewing could be very taxing. I understand there are
replacement motors out for a price. 
We really caution our workshop participants about using it this way and I
really think it depends on the user. Myself I am more of a collector and
rarely use any of my mint machines because I want them to keep them in as
original condition as possible.
You might want to find a 201 or 301 to do your machine quilting. The 301 is
not that heavy and has a built in handle and would be great to take to
classes, also there is the capability of lowering the feed dog.
We have workshops scheduled in the following cities or their will be:
Flushing Mi, Hindsdale Il,Benton Harbor MI, St. Joseph Mi, Tampa and
Orlando FL, Maumee OH. if you are interested in attending one of these
workshops please contact the shop or individual listed on our web page or
E-mail me privately and will be glad to give you more information. Nancy
Subject: Sewing machine history
Date: Wed, 3 Dec 1997 10:07:32 -0500

I'm cross posting as always since I never can decide what subjects are of
interest to which group! Was just reading my Dear Jane book (which is about
a quilt made in 1863) and thought the following quote might be of interest
to some of you. I don't vouch for its accuracy, just reporting what the
author says!

"With one hundred sixty-nine blocks and fifty-two triangles (in this
quilt), each pieced by hand, I wonder if you owned a sewing machine. Since
its invention in 1846 by a neighboring Yankee, Bostonian Elias Howe, the
sewing machine has been the pride and joy of all its owners. In fact, it
was so treasured that it was included in women's wills...According to
Suellen Meyer in Quiltmaking in America, the orignal machines were one
hundred twenty-five dollars, and the average family income only five
hundred dollars. Thank goodness for Edward Clark, Singer's partner, and the
installment plan!...Ms. Meyer also says that the sewing machines were
manufactured in the north, and most of the women who owned them lived in
the northeast. Many of the Civil War uniforms and quilts were made on the
sewing machine. It was very difficult for a southern woman to even get a
sewing machine, and according to Ms. Meyer, 'Northern soldiers searching
Confederate homes seized guns and damaged sewing machines.' "

Hope some of you find this as interesting as I did! Sue
Date: Wed, 3 Dec 1997 13:02:41 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 11/29/97

In a message dated 97-12-02 23:51:59 EST, you write:

>> Glad you found the One Drop locally. >>

I am new to the list and I want to know what ''One Drop'' is.

also, I have only have my FW for 10 days and I called the guy at the singer
place and he told me ''no grease in the motor. Now we only recommend a good
quality machine oil''.  this sounded a little odd to me. If these little
machines lasted all this time with grease, why would we change??? Am curious
cuz I need to lube her up soon so I can use her properly.  I did buy a new
tube of singer brand grease.

Date: Wed, 03 Dec 1997 13:31:07 -0700
Subject: 222

Okay, I'm going to be stupid.  Can somebody tell me what the difference
is between a 221 and a 222?       They look the same to me but obviously
the prices are leagues apart!  So somebody educate me, okay?

Date:	Wed, 3 Dec 1997 13:39:34 -1000
Subject: Wanted: Singer New Family Sewing Machine


	I am interested in buying Singer New Family sewing machines
(Model 12), ranging in condition from 0-10.  I'd also be willing to pay
a reasonable finders fee if you find one but don't want it for your own

Date: Wed, 3 Dec 1997 09:37:37 -0600
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 12/1/97

Has anyone heard of a Phaff 130? I put an ad in our local weekly flyer to
try and locate a 185, 99 or FW for sale at a price I might afford and got
a call about this machine?  The fellow wants $129.00 is that a reasonable
price? I haven't seen it yet, but thought I should find out more before I

Date: Wed, 3 Dec 1997 09:04:30 -0500 (EST)
Subject: this and that

Hi all!
  I hope everyone had a wonderful Turkey Day.  While I primarily collect toy
machines due to lack of space, a few FW have managed to sneak in.  I had the
best time last night cleaning and oilingAH213952, a charming little machine
that runs like a top.  I think part of the reason these machines hang on to
"the odor" is the heavy blotting paper that is inside the bottom plate.  Is
this replaceable?
  My most exciting news of the weekend came from my Dad.  He has been trying
to pin down one of his Flea Market buddies who said he had two toy machines.
 The guy also mentioned a green Singer.  I figured he must be mistaken and
was hoping it was an Elna Grasshopper. Well, surprise, it was a VERY light
green FW.  The case is so different from the black ones.  I can't wait to get
my hands on this although I will definitely sell it.  Dad says it is in
beautiful condition.
He aso picked up two TSM's, a Singer 20 in so-so shape and a newer blue toy
marked "made in Japan" (plate 202 in Glenda Thomas book 1)
  Although I work for a sewing machine dealer and sell top of the line Pfaff
machines, I love the charm of the older machines.  This group is so much fun;
I look forward to reading FWF every day.
                Chow for now!
Date: Wed, 3 Dec 1997 09:59:37 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Davis treadle drawers

Fellow Feathers,

Several years ago, I helped clean out my grandmother's house after her death.
 My grandfather died almost 30 years earlier and the garage had been left
pretty much the way he left it.  He had an incomplete woodshop in the garage,
where he went out to tinker (and probably get away from Grandma for awhile!).
 Over the years, he had salvaged drawers from unwanted pieces of furniture,
and attached them under the top of his workbench, so as to have a place to
keep the various parts for his hobby.

I took off and saved various drawers, mostly for the old wood or
hardware/pulls on them.  Luckily (since this was before I was hit by the SM
Salvage Bug!), I saved 4 drawers from a treadle sewing machine--oak, marked
DAVIS on the hardware.  They are about 5 inches square, by whatever the depth
of the treadle top is (about shoe box size, if that helps you picture them).
 Now, what can I do with them?  There was no treadle bottom to rebuild them
in.  I currently have them stacked out in my garage--awaiting inspiration.  

I'd love to use them to store some of the various sewing doodads I'm
collecting, but they need some kind of frame to fit into.  I hope someone has
an idea how to do something with these orphaned drawers.

Date: Wed, 03 Dec 1997 07:30:07 -0800
Subject: Wilcox/Gibbs

I have a friend that has a 1894 electic Wilcox/Gibbs sewing machine. she
is down to nly one needle and is unable to locate a source for
replacement. Can you help or direct me elsewhere?
Date: Wed, 3 Dec 1997 09:18:18 -0600
Subject: one drop

     Hi, all you feathers out there with stinky cases. I called willert 
     home products yesterday to find out where in my area I could find one 
     drop. The gal was very helpful and I was able to go directly to the 
     store in my area and find this product. The phone number is 
Date: Wed, 03 Dec 1997 10:43:18 -0500
Subject: fw extension id

many thanks to everyone who emailed me about the fw extension table.i
cant believe that i saw pictures of them and never realized that they
only had two legs. thanks sue for making the digest possible where else
can one get answers to so many questions thanks evelene
Date: Thu, 4 Dec 1997 02:17:52 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Sewing Machines

Hi Feathers,
I had a great visit to Cheyenne, Wyoming over Thanksgiving. My friends now
collect and had many wonderful machines to look at and take pictures of. The
best part is that I bought a New Family handcrank, 99K and a Babylock serger
from my friends. Also we searched out all the machines we could find at all
the local stores. I came home with a National 2 spool. I believe it was
discussed recently, but could not remember what was said about this machine.
Can anyone enlighten me on this. TIA. I went back for this machine because a
local SM dealer had a similar one that he wanted $650 and he said he knew of
two others back east that sold for $900 each. Needless to say it pushed me
back to the store where I got mine for $118. Did I do okay on that one? I
also picked up a Penney's toy that is plastic, but only $16. Also bought a
thingy clamp that has a hook that rotates when the wheel is turned. Nobody
knew what is was and everybody thought I was crazy for buying it. Does
anybody know what it might be? Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks, Cathy 
Subject: Cynthia England FW pattern
Date: Thu, 4 Dec 1997 05:46:18 -0500

Had to write another note on this great pattern - after having just
received a note from the creator indicating it really ISN'T as difficult as
it appears to be! Another FWF had also told me she'd taken a class with
Cynthia and discovered her method isn't that hard, only a little time
consuming. I'm sure it would be well worth the time it would take to have
such a wonderful wallhanging and I do realize that you couldn't get all
those great details unless there were lots of small pieces involved!
Actually, since purchasing it, I discovered several articles in my quilt
magazines on Cynthia and her technique, including one with a simple heart
design. I plan on trying that one out after the holidays - and maybe THEN
I'll be more prepared to tackle the BIG project! I DO realize that it's
often easier to actually SEW things than trying to figure something out by
reading the directions - so I haven't given up on this one yet! I'd sure
like to have that lovely quilt hanging on MY wall!  Sue 
Date: Wed, 03 Dec 1997 21:12:30
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 12/1/97

I was wrong in reporting that I had found a Singer 28 in a beat up
Bentwood...it is a Singer 99.  After reading and organizing my SM notebook
I realized what I really had.

Also the other Singer 99, (that was made in Gr. Brit.)  was so dirty that
the flywheel would not turn.  Well a few days ago I took her apart, cleaned
and oiled and changed the belt....she now purrs :-)  WOW what fun!  Thanks
for this list that has so many folks with so much information to share.  I
have learned quite a bit!

Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 11/30/97
Date: Thu, 4 Dec 1997 00:39:24 +0000

To Sandy

The Elna music box toy is very collectable. It was made in the  mid to late
1950s by Tavaro in Geneva Switzerland.

To Linda C re FW  motors.

These may not be available new but  they can always be rebuilt to "as new"

To Jack re Elna

There was an article in ISMACS News OIctober issue about Elna which showed
and discussed the various models. This will be put up on the ISMACS web
site http://www.ismacs.net  around the middle of next year.

Date: Wed, 3 Dec 1997 23:06:55 -0500 (EST)
Subject: What's wrong?

I'd appreciate any ideas about what's wrong with my FW. I'm hoping
it's not the motor about to give out.  I was doing some prep work
for paper piecing - sewing through several sheets of paper with an
unthreaded needle - when everything started slowing down and the
wheel just turned and turned without the needle moving up and down.
This is hard to describe - but it's like what happens when you are
winding a bobbin.

I could not get things working right after checking everything
obvious.  I then took things apart, cleaned, oiled, changed the needle.
Things were slightly better but I could only get it to sew if I nudged the wheeto get it sewing.

My trusty 70 year old Singer repair man is at his winter home.  The
sewing machine business has been very good to him.  He owns a beautiful
lake front home in Bay Village, OH (Lake Erie, the North Coast;) )
and another on an island off the coast of Texas.

Thanks for any ideas.  
Date: Wed, 03 Dec 1997 13:58:49 +0000
Subject: featherweight lightweight

I am new to this quilting thing. Why would I use a featherweight and
where would I aquire one?  Why is the featherweight preferable to hand

I've been quilting on my regular machine which I use for everything. I
really want to learn more about the featherweight.

Date: Wed, 03 Dec 1997 22:12:06 -0800
Subject: New Home SM

Hi Out There. Saw an ad in the paper for 2 treadle SMs. Calledand found
out one was a NEW HOME. So went to check them out and found the New Home
and a RUBY (made by New Home). Both had attachments and all parts. The
NH had an original manual and a Certificate stamped with sale date of
1906. Machines are very dirty but look to have about 95% of all the
decals. Haven't been used for a long time but both turn over easy.
	Graham where do i find the serial #s? I've looked all over except where
they are but can't see them.
	The cabinets are going to need a lot of work. Something to do this
Winter. Oh yeah. I paid $40 each for them.
Date: Thu, 04 Dec 1997 07:10:51 -0500
Subject: Wanted!

I would like to buy a 1909 Singer Stocking Darner (#35776) with the instructions and box in good condition.  Please e-mail me with price and condition if you have one to sell.  TIA.

Date: Wed, 3 Dec 1997 23:20:50 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 11/29/97

To Valerie 
To smooth out your Elna take the fly will off and hold a piece of course
sandpaper against the rubber pully while you run the motor.  You can sand the
pully down until the flat spots are gone.  This should quiet your manchine

I have also use super glue to glue a strip of rubber around a worn pully.
 You can give it the same sand paper treatment to true it up.

Does anyone know what the little lever to the left and behind the cam is on
the Supermatic?

Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 12/2/97
Date: Thu, 04 Dec 97 08:31:37 -0500

>I have an AH model 15, with the round stitch-length controller with reverse
, and feed dogs that >lower. It's not a 15-91, though, because the motor is
the standard belt-type, not in a pot like >15-91's. So what is this? Acc. to
Capt. Dick's book, the 15-88/89 was only made until 1941, and >the AH serial
number puts this at 1947. Could it be a 15-90 or a 15-125?

My mom's 15-88 was made in 1948, so it seems your belt driven 15 could still
be a 15-89. 
I also have a 15-90 manual that shows a belt driven 15 just like you
Could someone please tell me just what the difference between a 15-89 and
a 15-90 is? They both look like electrified belt driven model 15s to me.

Date: Thu, 4 Dec 1997 12:04:45 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: model 15

Okay, so I believed the guy who said that the machine I saw in the Farmers
Market here in L.A. was a model 55.  I went back , checked, and it was the
motor # !! :-)
I called Singer, and they say it is a model 15, made @ Feb 1 1916.  The box
is full of strange looking attachments.  They want $132 for it.  If
interested let me know and I will tell you what stall it is in,  the cabinet
was in very nice shape.  Thanks to those who recommended Glenn  I have sent him a check for a spool spring!!
 Best, Susan
Date: Wed, 3 Dec 1997 10:24:33 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Feed dog for 239 and Needles for Singer 20 TSM

A few days ago someone was looking for a feed dog for her grandmothers Singer
239.  I have 2 Singer feed dogs but don't know what machines they go with.
 If you still have not found one and could identify the numbers on the feed
dog, perhaps I could help you.  Just a long shot, but I can't think of
anything more frustrating than not being able to use a SM because it was
missing a vital part.

Also, a few days ago someone was looking for a source for needles for the
Singer No. 20 TSM.  Have not seen any responses.  Does anyone out there know
where I could purchase 1 or 2 new needles for this machine?  It takes a 24 x
1 needle.  I would prefer a size 11 but will settle for a size 14.  Thanks in
advance for any help.

Date: Thu, 04 Dec 1997 16:01:27 -0500
Subject: "Liliputian"

Hi there sewing machine collectors, I have an offer to make. Is there
anyone out there willing to swap a 222K featherweight for a "Liliputian"
this is known as the worlds smallest working sewing machine and is
Highly collectable. Thansk frish
Date: Thu, 04 Dec 1997 17:06:16 -0500
Subject: Slightly OT--Needles

    At a flea market last week I bought a small plastic pack of SM
needles (actually not so small now that I come to think about it...I
ended up with about 70 needles).  The package is labeled Groz_Beckert.
The needles are quite small, about 1/4" smaller than the standard
15x1's, with a round shank and a deep scarf.  I though I could use them
on some of my needle-less TSMs, but these needles are even smaller than
my smallest TSM ones.  Does anyone know what machine these needles go to
(sergers, industrials, ???)?  Can anyone use them?  TIA..

Date: Thu, 4 Dec 1997 17:56:43 EST

Hi Feathers,

Are you all doing your holiday shopping? Bought my DD a 301 from GWillie for
Christmas. She's going to make teddy bears on it.


One more week before our gathering for Mpls Feathers...I'm SO excited! If you
haven't e-mailed Susan that you are attending....please do so now.It's gonna
be a ball........Dec.13th's the date at 11:30am....please bring a dish to
pass....there will be door prizes & lots of sm talk,show & tell,for sales &
swaps. Come one,Come all!

Date: Thu, 04 Dec 1997 06:08:09 -0500
Subject: Franklin treadle

My first treadle is also a Franklin and I just love it.  No, it ought not to
sound lound and noisy, it could just need cleaning and oiling but check
carefully for all moving parts to be where they ought to be (and not bent to
be making such a racket.)

Mine is plain black in a wooden cabinet that I paid $100 for.  I saw it, I
liked it and I wanted it so I didn't mess around.  Actually I think the lady
in the shop said she wanted $150 for it but that I could take it for the
$100, but she could just have been doing business...

I haven't sewn on it too much, but enough (since I cleaned it up and oiled
well) that I am so glad I own it and whenever I make enough space to have it
opened up I will use it regularly.

Date: Thu, 04 Dec 1997 18:26:45 -0600
Subject: Mystery model 15

Lois said:

> I have an AH model 15, with the round stitch-length controller with
> reverse, and feed dogs that lower. It's not a 15-91, though, because the
> motor is the standard belt-type, not in a pot like 15-91's. So what is
> this? Acc. to Capt. Dick's book, the 15-88/89 was only made until 1941,
> and the AH serial number puts this at 1947. Could it be a 15-90 or a
> 15-125?

It's probably not a 15-125 -- those had the motor directly attached to
the machine, too, and I don't think they were made until the 1950's. 
The 15-90 looks like a 15-88 except that it's got a solid balance wheel
(instead of the spoked one the 15-88's got.)  The stitch length lever
plate is round like the 15-91's.

It might also be a 15-96 or 15-97 -- they were belt-driven, too.  The
stitch-length lever plate is different on these machines -- long and
narrow rather than round, and there's a little metal sleeve that the
screw on the end of the lever goes through which moves up and down with
the lever.  The -96 has a spoked wheel, and the -97 has a solid wheel,
but both have a newer style bobbin winder that doesn't have the
ratcheting wheel and the thread guide that moves the thread back and
forth as the bobbin winds.  (The 15-90's got the newer style bobbin
winder, too.)

Does any of this help?

Date: Thu, 04 Dec 1997 07:24:59 -0800
Subject: Lookie What I Found

To All:

I just went surfing (the internet) and found this listed.

Antique American Sewing Machines by James W. Slaten. It gives the value
of every collectable sm manufactured since 1850. It gives the Singer
Serial numbers dating chart, the history and more. 256 pages soft bound
for $19.95. Order from the Sewing Machine Museum  3400 Park Blvd.,
Oakland, California 94610. I have no affiliation with them and have
never visted the place. Next time I'm in the Bay Area, I will, though.
Maybe "Sandy Claws" will bring me one.
Date: Thu, 04 Dec 1997 19:59:48 -0500
Subject: Re: Welcome FW Fanatics!!

Hi Everyone!

  I just signed on today. I  don't have a featherweight yet... but am hoping to have one soon! I do have an Elna Grasshopper, which I didn't know I had until I heard about them on the web. My brother found it (someone was tossing it a few years back) and gave it to me. I have all the accessories and manual, and it is in very good shape. I have absolutely no idea of the value of one of these machines!!
Would anyone know how I go about finding out?
   My local SM repairman, works mostly in commercial machines. He has a bunch of OLD Singer, Wilcox & Gibbs stuff. He has a totally reconditioned featherweight for sale. He said I could have it for 100.00... Is this good for a remade machine?(Old..black..cute) I was routing through his stuff today, and found a puzzle box full of stuff, lots of accessories, some real funky looking boxes, lots of old
manuals, OLD Singer overlock's. He has this strange looking machine (actually lots of strange old machines)
that is a singer 24-4 double needle chain stitch. It is so cute! I want to make him an offer, but I have no idea what is a fair price. It has these little red flowers on it, but some of the decals are worn a bit. Anyone have any clues? He has no idea what any of his machines are worth.. being a commercial repair man, and not a collector.  He is just a nice guy and has always given me wonderful service.
Well enough of my rambling.. TTYL...
Date: Thu, 4 Dec 1997 21:26:33 -0600 (CST)"

I am looking for a "Domestic" sewing machine head circa 1890 to 1900.  I 
believe it is also called the fiddlehead because of the shape and the 
fact that it does not fold down into the cabinet like many of the 
treadles.  I lost the head in a fire but have a perfect cabinet, 
attachments and manual.  
thank you!
Date: Thu,  4 Dec 1997 22:21:57, -0500
Subject: Liberty SM

Hi Feathers:  A friend of mine picked up a small hand cranked machine 
called a Liberty DeLuxe.  Serial number was very hard to read but I 
think it was 16-7076 or it might have been 46-7076.  Made in Mexico 
probably.  Would appreciate any info.
Date: Thu, 4 Dec 1997 22:23:39 EST
Subject: machine

Hello, I just bought a Featherweight, the serial number starts with AL. It is
in very good condition and I can't wait to use it. First I have to make
Christmas candy and cookies. I'm intrested in any other infomation about the
machines. Thank you, Kay.
Date: Thu, 4 Dec 1997 23:58:31 EST
Subject: Chisel blades and wish list

I collect needlepacks if anyone has some I would like to talk to you about
buying them.  

That is not a chisel....it is a buttonhole cutter.  You lap the button hole
over a wooden block so that half is on the block like a "U" and use the cutter
to do a clean cut buttonhole, you reverse the buttonhole and the cut the other
end.  The blade is placed at the end of the hole and the rest goes the length
of the b/h and off the block, that way you get the perfect cut.  Personally I
love them as you never overcut like you could with scissors unless you have
the buttonhole scissor that can be set for the length of the hole.

Thanks I needed some help with my diet.....cannot have waffles if I am to get
a lot of sewing done.   Doing a memory quilt for my SIL.  I had the
family sign it this summer at the reunion.  Did a large triangle tree with the
signatures and old photos around the designs.  Use the double T for the four
corners as DH last name is Tabor.  Rest of quilt is done with a saw tooth
border.  All in 30's original and the back is a printed flour sack.  She
should like it.  

The cabinets were made with walnut that does not have the graining of the oak.
The older wood is not the same color as that we have today.  I have one and
all it needed was a little alcohol and waxing for the cabinet to sparkle.

Tredles are quite, a lot more than electric.  Could be the oil can could put a
muffler on that racket.  I can sew with mine and not need to turn up the TV
(telly to you Graham).  I find myself going very fast as the speed is limited
only by my foot.  Action movies get a lot more sewing done!!!!!  I would take
a long hard look as why the machine is a noise maker.  Cannot advise you on
cost.  My feeling is that if you left it, in your gut you did not feel that it
was worth the 100.  I have seen a lot of them lately.  

New machines (to me anyway)
Traded a Singer Tredle bottom for a complete New Home with attachments no
manual.  First time I have seen one where the cabinet is useable and the
machine is awful.  Total rust and may have a little paint left.  Have not
found the machine yet under the dirt and rust.  May sandblast this one and
paint it just for the fun of it.  Metal tin of attachments was complete and in
great condition.  Had a home made stilleto.  It was her gggmother's and all
she wanted was a pretty base for a table.  New Home is not a pretty as the
Singer so she was happy with the trade.  The singer  was the victum of cabinet
abuse (water damage).

Got a 401 (finally) and I do like it.  Have not had time to look at it but it
needs work.  Foot pedal has a broken wire and spool pins gone.  

Blessed Be
Date: Fri, 5 Dec 1997 00:49:50 EST
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 11/9/97

Thanks for your tip about the new fw foot. Where are they available?
Date: Fri, 5 Dec 1997 00:58:55 EST
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 12/2/97

In a message dated 97-12-04 03:15:34 EST, you write:

>> I just heard about an exhibition (and book) that  sounds interesting.  At
 the Autry Museum of Western Heritage, Los Angeles is a an exhibition
 entitled:  Patterns of Progress:  Quilts in the Machine Age (October 18 -
 January 19, 1998).  >>

Hi all,
This sounds like a wonderful exhibit.  The Autry  is a wonderful museum, too.
If you're ever in LA try to get there.
Date: Fri, 05 Dec 1997 05:04:37 -0500
Subject: a bit off topic....

Hi everyone:
Please forgive my being off topic, but felt this situation would be very
understandable.  Noted Fiber Artist and Author*, Ellen Anne Eddy has
been ill and has amassed truly sensational medical expenses that
unfortunately are not covered by any form of health insurance.  Many of
her noted and published works are being auctioned at the below web site:
> http://caproductions.com/ellen/
Please do check out the site if interested.
*Author of Thread Magic ... The Enchanted World of Ellen Anne Eddy
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 12/2/97
Date: Sat, 6 Dec 1997 00:00:52 +0000

To Kitty  et al re Autry Museum show

This quilt exhibition also feature vintage machines from ISMACS member
Lloyd Askew's collection.

To Krisi

who wrote
>	Great story about your trip to Morocco, but you left out the most
>important part: What sewing machines did you find? Inquiring minds want to

We discovered one great truth -- nothing gets thrown away. 19th century New
Families were still being used in the market place for on the spot repairs.

The trip was one of those break even affairs but no sewing machines were

To Linda

Thanks for the waffle information. And I'll take you up on the tasting
ceremony next time I'm in NY.

To Bill re Bartlett

Early Bartletts are very collectable. They were chain-stitch machines from
the 1860s and 1870s but the later models have nothing special going for
them. Rate it the same as any other early 20th century machine.

To Lin

The Leader was made by the Standard Company. Fairly typical 1920s machine.

To Judy

The Franklin was actually made by  the White and the National Companies and
sold by Sears. It would be loud and clunky compared to a modern model but
certainly a good lube job around the shuttle area might hush things up a
litt;le. Belt adjustment will not affect the noise.

Date: Fri, 5 Dec 1997 20:27:31 -0600
Subject: New 201

Hi all,
Just wanted to share my latest acquisition!  I bought a Singer 201-2 in a
No. 48 (walnut?) cabinet.  Came with all original attachments including
tucker.  Also has a Blindstitch attachment and a pink Singer buttonholer in
a light green Jetson case. (Is this the original set?) No attachment boxes
except the bottom of the Blindstitcher box, but all original manuals.  The
machine needs a cleaning, but seems to be well-cared-for and well-oiled.
Cabinet probably needs refinishing, but I will try Howard's Restore-A-Finish
first as I hate to remove an original finish.  They kind of grow on me when
they're "well-used".  I paid $125 which I felt was good considering it had
all manuals, buttonholer, and especially the Blindstitcher, which I've been
wanting.  I can't wait to clean it up and play with it this weekend!
Date: Fri, 05 Dec 1997 22:04:57 -0700
Subject: All I Want for Christmas.......

Fellow Feathers!  I'm desperate.  My DH just lost the teenie tiny gib 
screw to the bobbin casing on my FW.  It slipped from the tweezers and 
seemed to have fallen down behind the bobbin casing's assembly. Does 
that make sense?  We've looked all through the machine and thought it 
may have even slipped through into the underside gears and stuck in the 
grease but to no avail.  Does anybody out there have a gib screw for 
sale.  Please e-mail,  I'm in the middle of doing Christmas gifts.
Thanks for the help.  Jacque
Subject: Hand  crank
Date: Fri, 5 Dec 1997 07:28:33 -0800

Everyone has such good things to say about bargains the
got, well here is one. I bought a 1917 hand crank model 99
at an antique store in Clinton Arkansas. I just had to have
it for quilting classes so I wouldn't have to worry about electricity.
The price was 180.00, but it was on sale for 1/2 plus they gave
me a 10% discount. I didn't check it out real good because I
thought my local singer dealer could fix anything that was 
wrong. When I tried to sew on it, I found the tension assembly
missing. I can't find anyone that can fix it. It is close to perfect
for something that old. The decals are in great shape, the wooden 
case is close to perfect with a key. I would rate it 9.5. Can anyone help
me get it running? Elizabeth 
Date: 5 Dec 1997 08:11:53 U
Subject: Request

I have a friend who has an electric Wilcox/Gibbs machine 1894. She is down to one needle and is unable to find a source for replacements. Can you help? I left a message on your web site but have not heard anything. Thank you for any assistance you can give.
Date: Fri, 5 Dec 1997 09:02:32 -0600 (CST)
Subject: Guest Book

Thank you for signing my new guest book on my
web site.  Address http://www.icsi.net/~pickens/fwgu.shtml

What in y'all's (double '' wow!) opinion of the *most*
rare featherweight, or featherweight accessory?  My opinion
on that is the "extension" table for the featherweight
card table.  Not very many of those have been found/seen,
etc! (picture of it on my web site.)

I guess the other one, would be the crinkle finished
featherweight.  What has been the final decision on
that one?  Was it a "fashion" featherweight, or an
army/military issue?

Thanks and have a great day!  Gail 
Date: Fri, 05 Dec 1997 20:45:20 -0800
Subject: Are there any FW Fanatics in the Knoxville area?

I am travelling to Knoxville to see my daughter and her family for a
week and just wondered whether there might be some FW collectors in that
area. Since I've only lurked on my digest, wasn't too certain how to put
out a call to Fanatics there. Could you help me please. Would love to be
able to meet some of the people that have been on the digest!!

Just email me here at my address -- we leave Tuesday and that is why I
would like to get a connection before we leave so that I would have
someone to contact.

Thank you so very much for any assistance you can offer!

Subject: Singer 15
Date: Fri, 5 Dec 1997 21:54:33 -0600

Today I bought a Singer 15, SN AM007545. It is in very good condition with
the original box of attachments and in a nice blond cabinet. It only needs a
spool holder for the top and  I noticed that the rubber ring on the bobbin
winder needs replacing. It doesn't have the manual either. I would rate it
about a  7 or 8  but it does need cleaning up. It has a foot pedal. Don't
know if the knee lever is there or not.  I could not pick it up today so I
don't have it with me, but I paid for it -
$40.00 total for the whole thing.  My question is, will someone please tell
me something about this machine. I also need the manual and the little spool
holder.  Thanks!!
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 12/1/97
Date: Sat, 6 Dec 1997 10:56:00 +0000

To Don re National

This was a big-time name back in the 1930s Company formed in the 1890s as a
combination of the Old June and Eldgidge concerns.

Went out of business in 1953.

At $350 it sounds very expensive to me.

To Laura

That Muller toy sounds like a Model 0. Don't get confused, the company
started with the model 1 and then went back to use the 0 in the 1920s.

To Pam re Elgin

This was another of those badge-engineered products made by various makers
for a large retail outlet. Manufacturers included Davis, Free and AG Mason.

Date: Sat, 06 Dec 1997 00:48:50 -0800
Subject: Estate Sale

To All:

I was at an estate sale today. Saw a 10 rated model 66 portable
electric. The book is with it. The foot peddle and the case is about a
9+. Two tone yellow beige and brown. Serial number starts with AL. They
want $85. They have a Model 99 that is a 9 with a bent wood case. It is
also a 9+. They want $135. There is a newer model Singer. I don't know
what model. They have, what I think must be, a puzzle box. It is an oak
box with 45 degree sections on each end that fold out when you pull up
on the lid. It is full of attachments. I don't know what make it is but
it must be Singer with all those Singers in the house. There are two
like new Singer button holers and a ZigZag attachment all like new in
the boxes. I drooled over the good condition of the machines, but could
not bring myself to make and offer on any. Perhaps I'll go back on
Sunday and see if they are still there. I don't need them, but because
they are so perfect and new looking, I should attach myself to one or
two of them. It is funny, as another man and I were looking at the
machines. He sews, and I just like to watch them. None of the ladies was
even looking at the machines. They really are men's toys. Oh,Oh, sorry.
I know there are many ladies on the FWF who are nuts over these machines
like we are. If anyone in the San Diego area is interested in them, I'll
give you the address. It is an estate sale on East Mountain View in the
Normal Heights area.Listed in the San Diego Union Classified Section.
Date: Sat, 06 Dec 1997 10:27:46 -0500
Subject: Sewing Machine Repair Manual

Hello everyone,

Since I am now full throttle collecting wonderful old sm's and my husband
is greatly enjoying refurbishing them, we were wondering if there is some
catch-all manual on basic repair and mechanics of old Singer's?  He is
great at troubleshooting basics, but wants something more advanced.  Any


Date: Sat, 06 Dec 1997 10:52:54 -0500
Subject: Key for fw case

Do you have an address where Ican order the key for the fw case? I have 
2 fw's and would like keys to the cases but have not been able to find 
any. Hope you can help me.	
Subject: 222 vs 221
Date: Sat, 6 Dec 1997 07:56:24 -0800

Karen said "Okay, I'm going to be stupid.  Can somebody tell me
what the differenceis between a 221 and a 222?       They look the same to
me but obviously the prices are leagues apart!  So somebody educate me,

Karen the 222 is a free-arm, this means that part of the table is removable
to accomodate sleeves or pant legs.  A lot fewer of them were sold, hence
the premium prices asked for them.

IMHO the Elna Grasshopper which was a contemporary of the 222 is a better
machine.  Especially since I have one in my collection.  Check out the last
issue of the ISMACS magazine for pictures and a description of the

Date: Sat, 6 Dec 1997 13:32:26 EST
Subject: Franklin Treadle

To Judy ,

In response to the Franklin treadle being noisy.   I have 2 Franklins and both
have the same noisy/loud sound when running.  I think it is just
characteristic of these and all treadles in general.  I also have an 1800's
White treadle.  It is somewhat smoother and quite but still had the similar
"metal" shaking sound.  These machines used the "torpedo" bobbin and I believe
it is the bobbin shaking back and forth when you are sewing.  Don't worry, you
will get used to the sound.  Also with a little practice you will love the
treadle.  I use only 1 foot (my right) to pedal.  I don't know if this is
proper but it works for me so that is what I do.  If the cabinet is a very
large 6 drawer cabinet  and VERY squarish in shape, and the drawers are plain
w/wooden knobs it could be the cabinet Sears sold as the"Sit Right" cabinet.
The machie is positioned more to the right and the treadle pedal is more to
the left making it easier to use (I guess).  This cabinet is oak but may have
come in different woods.  I have a copy of the sales ad from the Sears catalog
if you would like a copy.  I think $60 is a reasonable price.  Good Luck!

Date: Sat, 06 Dec 1997 08:49:14 -0800
Subject: machines

I am looking for a featherweight machine for my wife for Christmas.
Where would be a good place to search? I (being not the brightest star
in the galaxy) am having a bit of trouble. Any help would be great.
Thanks. RHeinz
Date: Sat, 6 Dec 1997 13:27:08 EST
Subject: Re: Cynthia England Patterns

I took three workshops with Cynthia at the Glendale, CA. Quilt show this past
March.  While her system does deal with some teeny pieces, it is essentially a
paper foundation piecing system.  She provides a pattern to cut out, from
freezer paper, which is ironed onto the fabric right side up. They are cut out
with a rough 1/4" margin, then sewn together.  She finger pressed the fabric
over the edge of the freezer paper to make an edge, then put the edges
together without a pin by "feeling " the butted edges. She also provides a
paper  "map" to assist in connecting them.  The "map" can also be used to
trace a new pattern on freezer paper. The pattern is usually divided into
sections that are cut apart.  The individual pieces are numbered in a
chronological manner and sewn together, then the sections are sewn together to
make the whole. .  While it is a painstaking and by no means swift method, the
final effect is breathtaking and very photographic in
appearance.  She also taught us how to break up a photograph using her method,
to duplicate in a quilt.  Many people in the workshops caught on swiftly and
many, like myself, took awhile to "get" it.  It is a very logical method and
if approached that way, with no expectation of instant results, is very
satisfying.  I hope I haven't been too long-winded on this, and anyone
interested should try her patterns.  I am sure she would respond to inquiries
and questions, too!!!  Regards, Susan
Date: Sat, 06 Dec 1997 18:03:40 -0500

It all started with the 221.  The collecting bug bit and  has gotten
somewhat out of hand.  Manuals are needed for the sewing machines.
Would like to purchase the original manuals for:
    ----Singer 28K or 28
    ----Singer 101
    ----Wheeler & Wilson #8
Thanks for any response.

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