Featherweight Fanatics Archives

November 1997

Sunday, November 9 - Saturday, November 15

Date: Sun, 09 Nov 1997 16:38:21 +1100
Subject: question to Kiwis

I am after the date and details of the next NZ Quilt Symposium, like
everything, I'm sure I've read it somewhere but cannot find it when I need it.

Subject: tape residue
Date: Sun, 9 Nov 1997 05:19:56 -0500

I'm sure I'm not the only one with this problem and hope some of you have
figured out a way to deal with the residue left from masking tape on sewing
machines. Too bad so many people marked the seam allowance line that way
(to say nothing of the price stickers that can't be removed easily - there
should be a LAW against that!). Stuff like Goo Gone works fine when the
tape is fresh, but I need to remove the old dried up pieces and it doesn't
seem to have any affect on THAT! Appreciate any advice you can offer! Sue
Date: Sun, 09 Nov 1997 08:51:00 -0500
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 11/6/97

> Subject: Singer Cams
> I know Singer made about a zillion models which take cams.  How do you
> tell
> them apart? Is there some code or number on a cam which will tell me
> if it's
> suitable for my 503?  My mom said I should carry one of the cams I
> have with me
> every where I go until I find what I want to compare them, but there
> must be an
> easier way!
> Marie

    FWIW, my 500 takes the cams numbered 1745xx.  Rather than carry the
cam itself, why not carry a Xerox of one of the cams, with some
dimensions penciled in?

Subject: Centralia get together
Date: Sat, 8 Nov 1997 16:44:47 -0800

Hi, all... I will be going to the Centralia gathering that the
Lacey's are sponsoring Sat. Nov. 15th.   will be taking a van of
machines, etc. down with me.   If someone thinks they are seriously
interested, will take the Model 1200.   Let me know.

This one got short notice, but let's see what we can do to make a
good get together.    What about bringing quilts to show?

Captain Dick
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 11/5/97
Date: Sun, 9 Nov 1997 00:38:52 +0000

To Diane

Re the miniature Singer trucks. I contacted the company here in England
with the idea of getting one for each visitor for the Convention. That
meant I was ready to order over 200. The sales manager said he would have
to come back to me about bulk-order discount. Two months later he did. We
could have a whopping 2.5 per cent off the retail price....

To Judith

Think you will find that your Seamstrees was made in the USA by the Davis
Sewing Machine Co. Eaton was simply the Canadian distributor.

To Dick re Mr Prince joke.

Keelhauling is too good for you.
With your permission I will use this in the Christmas issus of ISMACS News.
Do you want your name on it  or are you too ashamed?

To Jodi re left-handed machines.

Great question. I think the answer's no. I once made reproduction antique
horn phonographs and telephones and did some of these for a special ordeL
for the "left-hand shop" here in London.

Would be just about imposible  with a standard machine but some models were
fitted with reverse feed. Needs some thinking about....
To JoAnn re calendar

 Couple of people are ahead of you here. Some years ago the Dutch company
IMCA which has one of the world's top collection produced a series of
callendars. Real king-size up-market stuff. Did it for three years using
some of the machines from Maggie's collection as well as their own. One was
real surealist -- eg There's an Anchor machine in the shape of a ship's
anchor. They had this in an underwater setting with mermaids etc.

Then Singer UK did virtually the same thing . There was big row with IMCA
and neither company did it again.

The IMCA calendars are highly prized -- one has actually been entered in
the ISMACS auction next May and there's another as a runner up prize for
the quilting/embrodery competition.

To Linda

The 99 was one of Singer's greatest machines -- just a tad heavier than the FW.

Date: Sat,  8 Nov 1997 22:02:34, -0500
Subject: FW Fanatics 11/5/97

Hello fellow FWFers:  For those FW using quilters that were having 
trouble feeding the fabric when using the Little Foot - I have GREAT 
news.  Now Little Foot has come out with another 1/4" foot that has a 
wide left "toe" that completely covers the feed dogs on your 
wonderful little FW.  I can tell you from experience tht it works 
like a dream.  It comes in clear and purple.  Try it, you'll like it.

Subject: calender
Date: Sun, 9 Nov 1997 07:31:11 -0600

Ooooohhh!  A Calendar of FW's & stuff. With big up close pic's of the
special parts, all the special editions, tables, cabinets,  parts, all
colors,  This is a GREAT idea!  I'll take three!  Maybe for 1999!!!

Subject: Singer Model 920 AKA Futura II
Date: Sat, 8 Nov 1997 19:43:58 -0600

This is an old favorite "modern" machine I have, but have not had the
opportunity to use in about 5 years.  Pulled it out yesterday and refreshed
my memory of how it threads, how it works etc, and found it to be very
growly and grumbly from I guess, lack of use and probably heavily gunked up

Now this was one of the first -- "do not oil, take to the man for service",
machines -- but I don't believe this for a minute now, with what I have
learned herein.  So, shall I take the screwdriver and remove the plastic
bottom and see what lurks inside, or shall I take it to the "man" and pay
to have it serviced.....or is there a chance of getting a service/adjusters
manual from Singer on this modern (1975) machine??

Date: Sun, 09 Nov 1997 12:26:16 -0500
Subject: Buttonholers

Hi everyone,
I have 5 or 6 buttonholers in the green jetson case and they're for low shank machines, while my two buttonholers in the pink jetson case are slant needle.  I also have several buttonholers in green krinkle cases and they all are low shank. I've had two in maroon krinkle cases and they're for slant needle machines. My buttonholer in the black krinkle case is low shenk. As for the instructions - they're identical for the pink and green jetson cases, while the maroon, black, and green krinkle have the same.

BTW - saw a buttonholer in the green jetson case for $48 several weeks ago.  Needles to say, it did not follow me home. 

Bought a really nice white FW this week - problably will be selling it on eBay within the next week or two.  

-Subject: FW Quilt Pattern
Date: Sun, 09 Nov 97 14:28:16 -0500

While cruising the web, I came across a quilt site selling patterns.  One
design has a very realistic Featherweight in front of a window with a quilt
under the needle.  If interested the pattern is called New Stitch in Time,
Pattern #203 for $9.00.  (I am not affiliated, etc......)


Well, back to lurkdom until I find a sewing machine worth writing about
which comes few and far between in this town!

Date: Sun, 09 Nov 97 16:38:40 PST
Subject: Looking forFW Case and Manual

I have recently inherited a FeatherWeight from a relative. Strange luck since
was looking for one anyway.

The machine works and looks great, even though it has been through a flood and
the case, manual, and attachments all were ruined.

The machine is shiny Black with gold scroll work and the # is AF584217 which
makes it about 1938-1940.

I would love a manual (221), original case, and attachments, but would be happy
with even a FAX of the manual for right now. If anyone can help with this my FAX
# is 206-223-5186 at work, thanks to everyone in advance!!!

Diane A.
Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 00:10:14 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Thread Lubricants

try to contact the "thread Pro" lady--she is fanatastic--knows the
machines and what the lubricants do -both to machines and to threads--just
a happy customer!
Date: Sun, 09 Nov 1997 15:18:15 -0800
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 11/5/97

Beth  wrote:   My real find (for me as I really, really wanted
one) was a Singer pinking attachment with manual (but no box). I was
thrilled and the price was reasonable (I thought - $30).

You betcha the price was reasonable! I just saw one at the International
Quilt Festival in Houston a couple of weeks ago with a price tag of
Yes I wanted that baby, but not that bad! 
 I was really, really disappointed in the prices on all the machines I
saw - FW's, toys, the whole nine yards! Perhaps more sales were made
there, at those, IMHO, inflated prices, to quilters who were under a 6
acre roof filled with vendors of every sort as well as the beautiful
works of artistry shown in the quilts, but a LOT of the machines I saw
on Wednesday were still there on Saturday. I certainly wasn't going to
pay those prices, but other quilters, who might not have as much
knowledge as they do money, may have been swayed.
  Throw rocks at me if you will, but I agree with Beth - Come ON, Folks!

Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 00:49:35 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Cams

I have found that the dark brown cams will work on the 500 and the 6 and 7
hundred touch and sew series.  The white (streach stitch) cam will not.
 Carry a cam with you is a good idea.  I find them a lot lost from the

Subject: Centralia Gathering
Date: Sun, 9 Nov 1997 22:09:14 -0800


Know its short notice, and hope this makes it to the list in time to
be helpful, but I am going down in a van on Sat. morning.   Will have
a seat or two extra if someone wants to pool from my place.   Email
me direct if you do.

Captain Dick
Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 09:11:07 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Machine identity

I've been trying to remember the name on my aunt's sewing machine, a treadle.
 Does 'Damascus' ring a bell with anybody?
Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 09:52:40 -0500 (EST)
Subject: FW Prices

I'm just agreeing with the person who mentioned that most FWs are priced
between $350 and $450 regardless of condition.  I don't necessarily mean
those I've see posted on FWF as I believe that most of us (thanks to Graham,
etc.) have a fairly good idea of a SM's condition.

But, it is true that I've seen some pretty bad looking FWs (maybe they sewed
like a dream--don't know though) all priced in that range.  However, the
shocker came to me a couple of weeks ago while on travel in Santa Fe, NM.  I
went into a sewing and vac store there.  There were quite a few old machines
sort of all jammed together on a couple of tables.  I saw two black FWs and
one white one.  One black one looked a bit tired and worn, one black one
looked OK, and the white one looked like it might be as high as an 8.  I
didn't look carefully; this is just my quick impression.  I asked him how
much his FWs were (none were marked) and he said, "That's easy, they're
$600."  I could tell he wasn't kidding and I immediately felt anger (guess I
wanted a "deal" and there wasn't going to be one here!!).  I was angry enough
to tell him that they were overpriced (compared to others I've seen and what
has been for sale on FWF).  He just walked away.  Either he doesn't really
want to sell them or there are some desperate people wanting FWs in Santa Fe.
 Santa Fe is a bit "out of the way" but it made me angry that he would charge
so much for his FWs when they can get them for less elsewhere.

I'm still fuming a bit.  His attitude wasn't so great either (but, I have to
admit, neither was mine!).  Just sharing as part of my FW therapy.

Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 11:44:22 -0500
Subject: fw cardtable

went to montreal the other day to have lunch with my ds.i had a few
minutes to spare so popped in a junk store what do i spie but a fw card
table insert and all asking price 4.99 needles to say it followed me
home.now i dont know where the store was as i left there 35 years
ago.but i described the store to my son hopefully he will come upon it
and check it out every once and awhile for
me.                                  evelene
Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 09:11:33 -0500
Subject: children using sewing machines....

There has been some discussion lately about young children owning and
operating sewing machines and I thought I'd comment on my daughter's
She just turned 7, and over the summer we came across a really nice
Singer Model 128, a 1935.  It was a "honey" with all the attachments,
manual, gorgeous bentwood case, etc.  My dillema was that I already
owned two 128 models and couldn't justify bringing another one home. 
Well, DH shelled out the money, and bought it for our daughter.  She was
absolutely delighted with it.  I find it's really hard for her to use,
and I must be right beside her for her to operate it.  It's kneebar
control is hard for her little legs to handle, and the machine dosn't
"stop on a dime", so she often sews to far.  Also, this particular 128
seems to have two speeds fast and very fast.  I don't feel very
comfortable with her using it.  I may actually let her use/have/trade it
for my Model 28 handcrank (but I LOVE this machine, would be hard to
give it up, or see it damaged with a child's usage) as I know it's stop
on a dime capabilities and without electrical involvement, I would feel
so much more comfortable with her usuing it.
Well, that's my two cents, maybe someone would have some ideas for me
Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 10:31:57 -0800
Subject: Re: Tape residue on your machine

Hi, Karen,
  Read your FWF post, and from experience, I can tell you that WD40
works like a charm to remove the residue. Just squirt a little on, wait
a bit, and voila! that sticky mess dissolves, comes right off with a
wipe, and doesn't harm your machine.  
  I use my FW all the time for piecing quilts, and use various "stiky"
things as a seam guide.  When they start to get worn , or curl up, etc.,
I pull them off, use the WD40, clean it off well, and put another
"guide" on. I've used layers of masking tape, post-it notes, Dr.
Scholl's pads, etc., and all will come off clean as a whistle.
  Happy Featherweighting!

Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 01:55:47 -0600
Subject: WANTED

I just bought a model 99 in great shape with a beautiful walnut bentwood
case, original manual and box, six bobbins, and a number of
attachments.  But I need a key for the case.  The keyhole is quite small
and perfectly round.  any ideas how I can get one?
Helen C.
Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 09:37:41 -0800
Subject: Re: White 77

Steve  wrote:
> There is a telephone number for White that you can call and
> get the manufacture date for your Model 77. If someone
> else doesn't give it to you I'll look it up at home and let
> you know.
> Here in the Sacramento area, Whites are pretty common in
> the thrift stores and usually priced lower than Singers
> of the same era. I bought a Model 43 in very good condition
> for $19.50 at Salvation Army. We have a White treadle
> too.
> They are good machines I think. The tension mechanisms are
> a little more delicate than Singers. As you've already
> found out, they rotate opposite the Singers. I haven't
> formed an opinion on friction drive vs belt drive yet.
> The bobbins are different than any Singer bobbin, at
> least on our machines, but they are still available.
> >From what I've read, White was probably #2 behind Singer
> in the pre-war years. The Sincere book's author speaks
> highly of White's rotary design.


Thank you for the info on the White Model 77. Then, I didn't pay too
much for it at $10.(?) I have it all cleaned up. The machine is about a
9 now. but the case cleaned up to about a 7+. I must get a luggage
handle for it. They are available. Then it will be a 7 1/2. It is a grey
carrying case, after I got all the crude off it. The edging is like a
Samsonite plastic edging about 3/4 inches wide. The stitches have
disappeared in some areas. Can these be restitched or does one have to
take the covering off to stitch it? Otherwise the shoe repair shop
sewing machine would have to sew through the stiff sidding.
Yes, I would like the White phone number. Thanks again.

This information you have given me should be shared with the FWF, so
I'll send them a copy.

Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 10:14:38 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 11/8/97

To remove the sticky residue, I use a product called "Goo Gone".  I purchase
this at the local Menards store which is similar to a Home Depot or other
large store that sells hardware/lumber.  The Goo Gone can also be used on any
appliances /clothing/carpet that has tape, gum or what ever stuck to it.  It
will not harm the paint.

Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 21:28:35 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 11/7/97

In a message dated 97-11-10 10:21:32 EST, you write:

>>  There is a fourth kind but the locals keep them a secret . >>
Dear Graham,

Now, now, that's not fair to keep us dangling like that. Please tell.

Subject: Re: Free motion
Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 18:48:56 -0800


I just finished free motion quilting the border of my newest quilt
with the FW.   I used a standard darning or jumping foot, and did not
lower the feed dogs!   I have also found that on my Pfaff 134
commercial machine, I can use a jumping foot and do excellent free
motion work with the feed dogs working.   No explanation... it just
works for me.

As to why I used the FW.   I sat down to do hte free motion work on
my 201's, and neither of them wanted to do it!   The  hook wouldn't
pick up the thread to make the stitch.   Both did straight sewing
fine.   And I used the 201 treadle to free motion a whole quilt a
little while ago.   Don't know what's going on and don't have time to
look into it right now.   some minor problem, I'm sure.

Captain Dick
Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 14:07:23 -0500 (EST)
Subject: replica FW

I have to add my .02 worth on this machine.  While my FW was being serviced,
my local repairman loaned me the replica.  All I can say is YUK..  The stitch
was not nice at all, it made a terribly loud noise while sewing and was not
at all enjoyable to use.  So, for my money, I would wait however long it took
to find the real thing.  Period!!!!

Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 20:37:10 -0600

I haven't heard from Bobbie, but I did send he AG the info I had.  Copies
of emails, etc.  I just hope they keep at it and we get our money back.
Subject: Is this the key? (URL to pic)
Date: Mon, 10 Nov 97 13:11:04 -0500

I've found three little keys in flee markets in the past few weeks
that fit the lock on my Singer bentwood cases. They also fit
my treadle cabinet. What I'm curious about is whether these
are THE key or if these are keys that are meant for something
else and just happen to fit. 

If you know what these keys look like, could you please
take a look at:


Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 17:16:59 -0500 (EST)
Subject: The Other Little Foot

Hi Feathers!

I have been peacefully piecing a quilt on my FW using the new Other Little
Foot that I got from Phil at Little Foot last week. Let me tell you folks,if
you don't yet have one of these,it's the GREATEST!!!!!! Best quilting foot
I've ever used!! I now have them for all my sms except the 301 and I
understand that foot is coming soon! Will certainly order one,when it's

Check it out  with Phil at:  Litlfoot@rt66.com

No affiliation with LF of course...

Will be coming out with more info re Holiday For Mpls Feathers gathering
soon. If you live in Mpls area....let me know interest in attending....should
be lots of fun to meet  some of our fellow Feathers.

Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 16:28:24 -0800
Subject: Re: Tape residue on your machine

  Re which home-made seam guide is my favorite, that's hard to say - all
three work well for different reasons - the masking tape is the
cheapest, but it will, in time, begin to curl up on the leading edge and
have to be replaced. 
 Post-it notes are good in a pinch when you don't have anything else,
like when you're going to a class, and forgot- nearly every shop will
have a few you can bum off them. The problem I've had with them, is that
unless you tape down the free edge, your fabric will catch on those
little free flaps, and eventually pull the whole stack off. The adhesive
doesn't seem to adhere quite as well either.
  Dr. Scholl's gives the nicest edge for your fabric to butt aginst, but
it is by far the most expensive. However, it lasts a long time.
  Even if you buy all three, you won't break your budget, so I would
suggest trying each for awhile and see what you like best.
  I also use the Little Foot, almost exclusively, on my FW. There are
probably as many people who love it as hate it, but I like it. I know
where to start and stop sewing 1/4" from each edge, and it is a good
1/4" wide measure when your fabric is about to go under the needle. 
Mine is black, and I've had it so long, I don't think they're even made
in black now. Again, this is just a matter of personal choice.  
  The long metal seam guides are good, if you can keep the screw holding
them on tight enough to avoid that 'wiggle". I haven't used the magnetic
seam guide, but I suppose, if heavy enough not to be moved by your
fabric manipulations, it would work well, too.
  Good luck, and Happy Featherweighting!

Becky ( who only needs to make 60 more tiny log cabin blocks to be able
to start her vest construction(!), followed by 3 quilts for Christmas
gifts - YIKES!!)
Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 15:05:24 -0500 (EST)
Subject: humorous!

Hi, I was reading some very early Wheeler & Wilson's Lock Stitch Sewing
Machine advertisments circa 1866 when I came upon this paragraph which made
me chuckle, remember this is their words not mine.

Let every reform school, whether of boys or girls, be provided with one or
more.  Let orphan asylums, widow's homes, hospitals and other institutions
like Lunatic Hospitals, Asylums for the deaf and dumb, the blind, the
inebriate, the idiot, also be furnished with them, as there are always some
persons half-well and half invalid in such establishments.

Well I would say they just about covered everything, or everyone!

Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 15:11:41 -0500
Subject: Inclusion on digest

I am currently restoring my mom-in-law's old Gritzner Extra treadle machine
(which she brought with her from Holland in the 50's). I am a real novice on
sewing machines and have a few questions that will help me to more
accurately replace/fabricate some missing parts. While doing a web search
under "Gritzner", I made contact with Maggie @magsrags who steered me to
this address. Hope the experts won't mind a few dumb questions and maybe
offer a bit of help ?  Harold 
Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 23:23:40 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Safety First

Buying a machine
Unless they sound elderly I do not go to a home. If I must then son or hubby
(both 6 ft.+) are with me with the ruse that I can not carry the machine.
 (estate, tag, boot or yard sales are different)  I may be a black belt but I
do not know how to stop a bullet or a unexpected blow to the head....get my
point?  I prefer to meet at a fast food area where there are a lot of parents
and kids. My card lists my post office address, mobile phone (it rings in the
house if I am not in the car) and my e-mail address.   My concern is that
family members may think that I am a good target as I buy in cash.  What I am
going to offer for that one sale is in small bills (5, 10, 20).  If I need
more go to an ATM nearby.   Safety First.  A FW is not worth a life. {mine
anyway ;-) but I will consider offers on the son....}

FW and 99
A FW does looks like a toy, the 99 does not.  I will not quilt with the FW as
the motor is small and I want it to purr for a lot longer time.  The 99 is
common and has a stronger motor that is cheaper to replace.  Why risk it?
 Most of us on this post have a gazillion machines, why bother to wear out
the most expensive one?  I carry it to class and piece on it, but not to
quilt as it is too small and light (IMHO) and I might knock it off the table.
(I know of this happening)  I move my machine on a luggage cart (folding)
secured with a cord.  I also have a personally designed bag for each machine
to protect the case.  

Smelly Cases
Use a product call "One Drop".  I get it at Walmart or Kroger.  If you cannot
find it I will send you the address of the company...OR...if you are really
brave call a funeral home they will advise you of a source for a similar
product.  Don't ask....you really do not want to know why they would be
familar with this product.  I find it where you get laundry, carpet or other
spot removers.  I paid about 3 for a 2 oz bottle.  Put ONE drop on a cotton
ball in the case where it will not touch the machine.

Singer 185
This is a newer machine and was the based on the 99.  We do not talk a lot
about it as it is not part of the machines that are considered "collectable".
 (In the US some collect those made before 1964) Look at the book put out by
ISMAC.  In the front are codes that Singer used later in this century to tell
you about the machine.  The author did an excellent job of explaining the
codes used both in Britain and the colonies .  While the book has been
made from copies and not all pictures are clear, it was well worth the 7 or 8
I spent on it.  It has the machines up to the 1980's.  There are other books
but my favorite are this one, the Captain's, Oldtimers and Carter-Bay (for
the unusual).

I agree about not liking to price as I want it  cheap but I will not lie.
 Older people are hesitant to price them and the interesting part is they
fear overcharging.  I am conservative about what I price it at but not out of
the ballpark.  I will tell them that it is worth xxx but I can only pay xx.
 For example, an 7-8 FW in a case is worth 250 to 350 if you can find a buyer
 that will pay retail.  Then I offer my amount (usually about 100 to 200). I
leave my card with the amount I will pay on the back, the number of the
machine, and then "cash only".  Then I walk.  Not unusual to leave and be
called back within the week.  Had one to insist that I take less as I was not
very well versed in prices as he was.  Still calls monthly to offer machines
to me.

Use WD40 to get the sticky off the machine without harming the finish.  Baby
oil works too and smells nice.

New FW
IMHO.....garbage.  Been there, seen it, don't want it.  BTW this is the first
one that really has FW on it.  

Blessed Be
Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 16:51:35 -0500
Subject: post

Hello Everyone...

Well,  back  from  the  quilt show in Jacksonville FL. This year we decided to 
'send  up  a  trial  balloon'  and have a "Featherweight Store" as part of our 
booth  -  turned  out  to  be  a  really good thing for us! We brought several 
really  *nice* FWs with us and a whole bunch of books, parts, and accessories. 
We  peddled  over 50 of the new Alphasew Patchwork Feet and many FW Care Kits. 
Partner  in  crime, Tony of Fernandina Beach, offered free FW Care Classes and 
most  were  standing  room  only.  I  only  had to bring one FW home with me - 
Tony's  pristine  white  FW,  a  c.9... The FW store was a nice 'draw' for the 
rest  of  our  booth  and  we  did  a  bang up job selling fabric and 1600 fat 
quarters (most of which I folded myself...).

Read  the  back  log  of FWF digests and noticed that several queries were not 
answered, so I thought a take a crack at 'em...

For  Janet,  re:  Spartan Spool Pin... The Spartan is a variation of the class 
66  machine,  and  is,  in  fact,  a  'entry  model'  version of the 99. These 
machines  use  *drive-in*  spool  pins  -  that  is,  you drive them in with a 

For  Kathleen,  re:  15-91  motor  lubrication...  The 15 motor has two grease 
galleys  that  are  meant  to hold a fair amount of Singer Motor Lubricant. Do 
not  confuse  SML  with oil! All Singer motors with lube ports and galleys use 
the  SML  for  lubrication.  You should avoid using oil on the motors - if oil 
gets  in  the motor brushes, they'll smoke and score the motor communtator and 
your motor will be toast...

For  Lynda,  re: 221 Feed Dogs... We have a couple of guild members who do, in 
fact,  use  their 221s to do free motion quilting. One uses a business card or 
a  scrap  piece  of  template  plastic  to  cover the dogs. The other uses the 
Buttonholer  feed  dog  cover...  The feed dogs are removable. Just remove the 
two  throat  plate  screws  and the throat plate, then remove the two feed dog 
screws  and  the  feed dog. Replace the throat plate (remember the Bobbin Case 
Base  Positioning  Finger!!!)  and  you're  in  business!  ...or  buy  a 301 - 
stronger motor, almost as light, and a *lot* cheaper than a 222!!!

For  Selma,  re: Sincere Book Fiasco... I have been blessed with no flame-mail 
from  BK  for  several  months, so I'm glad she hasn't fled the country. And I 
(and  many others) have sent complaints to the AZ AG. And I recently confirmed 
that  they are actively investigating this scam. And I've done about all I can 
do, save send cousins Guido and Louie down to Tucson from Chicago...

Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 11/6/97
Date: Tue, 11 Nov 1997 00:26:18 +0000

To Bonnie re Singer 24 and Frister and Rossman needles

I can supply these if you cannot get them more locally.

To LouAnne

The serial number can be found under the stitch plate on the main casting
-- look end-on at the machine. Come back to me with the number and I can
date it accurately.
You will not find a bobbin as this is a chain-stitch machine. Very
collectable but make sure the spool holder pin is there -- these can go
missing and are unobtainable. Good luck with the negotiations.

To Terri J

Ernst Plank was one of the pioneer German toy makers but sewing machines
came late with this company --1925 was the only year they were offered .

Date: Tue, 11 Nov 1997 01:13:46 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Model #s & Quilting


Wanted to thank everyone who responded to my query about my 221. Several
people suggested I get a different model for machine quilting. I'm currently
using a Singer Athena 2000; however, the old girl ain't what she used to be.
Held up well considering  this model was the first computerized Singer. While
I am looking to replace her, I'm looking for a newer machine (probably a new
or used Bernina). I take lots of quilting classes so the FW is great, but to
take a class that involves machine quilting, I'd like to have a machine that
won't give me a hernia to lug around. While I love my FW, I'm not a sm
collector like many of you; I have to many other things to collect. But, as a
history major & former museum employee, I'm glad you all are saving & using
these wonderful machines!  Thanks again for the info!

Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 22:21:43 -0800
Subject: Sightings

Hi All. I stopped by an Antique store near Paso Robles, Ca. and saw 2
nice treadles. One Was a Minnesota in a nice 6 drawer oak cabinet.
Machine is about a 6 & the cabinet a 7. The other was a Davis ModelAA.
the machine maybe a 7 and the oak cabinet a 7+.
Date: Tue, 11 Nov 1997 02:11:01 -0500
Subject: Singer #24 chainstitch

I acquired a Singer Sewing Machine No. 24 Chainstitch machine today from an
elderly couple. It was the woman's grandmother's machine. The woman learned
to sew on it when it was a treadle. I'll be getting more of the history of
the machine soon. It's nice to be able to know a machine's history.

It came with a variety of attachments, extra needles and the original
instruction book. All the gold is intact, there are a few minor nicks on
the enamel.

She told me her grandmother had it electrified. It must have been a long
time ago when it was electrified. There is a hole in the case for a knee
control, but no knee control. In the back there are two things that look
like a plug must go in, but there isn't any cord for it. anyone have a
kneebar & know what goes in the back of it? 

The motor is quite interesting also. I'm thinking about converting it back
to treadle, seeing as I have a machineless Singer treadle that looks exactly like the one in the instruction book. 

As she presented the machine to me it was in a small bentwood case with the
key. The bottom of the case is not in good condition, but the rest of it's

The serial # of the machine is AA039905. Serial # for the motor is 2264557.
There's a serial # on the controller too, but I haven't gotten to it yet,
it's sort of hard to get to to copy down.

The attachments it came with are a tucker, ruffler, 3 hemmers, extra needles. There is a picture of a metal box with the attachments in it. This machine came with a green box instead of the metal one.
Date: Tue, 11 Nov 1997 02:11:03 -0500
Subject: Thread

 Graham F 
>>  have a history written about  thread but it's from the English perspective, also a slide lecture somewhere with pix and notes. An ISMACS member who died some years back was a director of the English Sewing Cotton Co ( a conglomerate of all the old factories -- many founded in the 1700s )
 He specialized in researching the history of the business. When he died I got three tea chests of material some of which I haven't looked thru yet.
Most of the pioneer work on thread was done in Europe long before the invention of the sewing machine and I doubt there is much American material here. You want me to go look? >>

Please do share this information. I understand one can color match DMC #s
from several hundred years ago. Of course that doesn't take into account
the fading from exposure to the elements through time, but the original
colors are the same.
Date: Tue, 11 Nov 1997 06:52:15 -0500
Subject: being cautious?

HI guys!
Well, it's my turn to think twice.  I had a phone call from a man who
got my name from someone else, and says he's got three sewing machines
for sale.  One a 99K (I think), one a Singer Treadle he describes as
beautiful (we'll see), and a third unidentified Singer in a table - who
knows?  At any rate, he lives about 40 minutes from me in an area I've
only been to once in the 7 years I've lived in New York.  My alarm bells
have gone off, as first he wanted to meet me, an leave my car somewhere
and drive me to see the machines, and then offered to come all the way
and pick me up (no way!) to bring me to see them.  I insisted, with a
road map, I'd be ok with my own car.
I claimed that I would be SO BUSY this week that I wouldn't be able to
make it there until the weekend.  Naturally DH will be around and might
just happen to want to take a ride.  I'm hoping he'll have the time!
More than likely, this is on the "up and up", but after all the
discussion lately about security, I think I'm making the safer choice.
Thanks for listening,
Date: Tue, 11 Nov 1997 14:30:26 +0000
Subject: VEsta

HI all

My darling So went ot our local junk shop today looking for a Singer
Hand Cranked machine, as I otld him!!!

He got back in the car to tell me they had a Vesta treadle machine - he
hadnt enquired re price or anything or condition.

I have never heard of these - any ideas anyone?


Date: Tue, 11 Nov 1997 08:02:04 -0800
Subject: Re: White portable

Sue M  wrote:
> I think I have the exact same machine - bought it at a moving sale near
> here this summer! Mine came in a grey case that I at first thought was a
> suitcase - is yours like that? Neat to be able to buy yours from the
> original owner - no one seemed to know much about mine! If you find out any
> more about yours, I'd love to learn more - it's one of those "so ugly it's
> cute" machines! Talk with you again soon. Sue  


Yes, I found out that it is a Model 77 White Portable. It runs like a
dream. The "suitcase" is grey and had a leather carrying handle. I must
find one to replace it. I have a line on luggage repair parts from the
internet. It has a grey plastic piping around the edges of the case
about an inch wide. It looks like Samsonite style older suitcase.
The machine is the crinkled alligator looking finish.

Captain Dick says,  "This is an excellent machine..though not greatly in
demand or favored. Mostly due to the friction drive. One caution. If
allowed to rest under pressure on the wheel for long periods, the rubber
drive bushing will sometimes develop a flat spot. This bushing can be
replaced, and when the machine is not in use, put something behind the
motor to prop it outboard a fraction of an inch.  This is the only
machine, I know of, with separate stitch controls for forward and
reverse, very handy for tight bactacking. I have two, and consider them
top quality. Properly set up, they are smooth sewers."

I don't know what they might bring on the sewing machine market. I
bought mine for $10. It is all cleaned up now and looks ugly, but right
proud. I like it. It would be ideal for a child to learn to sew on. I
don't know how to sew, and, maybe it would be good for this "child of
sewing" to learn on. 

I finished restoring my latest model 66. Refinished the legs and the
walnut wood cabinet.I put gold leaf paint on the Singer logos and name
on the legs. I did a hand rub finish on the cabinet. I think it is a
better finish now than when it was new. It looks like a brand new 1923
sewing machine. My wife's "sister", girl friend, wants to buy it and is
coming over this morning to take a final look at it, and put a leash on
it and walk it home. I don't think she wants to sew on it. It will just
sit in a corner and look at the guests when they are over. Too bad, as
it is a fine running machine.
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 1997 23:38:33 -0800

I have a FW 1952 and a treadle Red Eye 1923 I think.  I am trying to ignore
the urges since I became interested in collecting but have had a few
opportunities I have passed up due to ignorance.  This last weekend I found
a Singer treadle that preceded mine and the dealer said either 1989 or 98,
cant remember. Cabinent is older version with carving and center knobs
(mine does not have this). It is really dirty and I couldnt distinguish the
plate design. The decal designs were sort of silver and gold. No belt.
Working condition unknown. Very very rusty (mine was just rusty) and
has the puzzle box with what appears to be most attachments. Drawers are
packed with notions from 50s or so.  Can someone tell me what model this
machine is, and a high/low expected price range.  I paid $150 for my redeye
which works great after reconditioning and new belt but has no attachments.
The cabinent is plain but nice.  I don't mention how much I paid for my FW
but it is pristeen!
I think they were asking $300 which I felt was high with the condition and
unknowns. What kind of offer  should I make or is it redeemable other than
the puzzle box and cabinent (which needs some work on the center drawer). I
am new to Fw Fanatics and would appreciate any info.
Date: Tue, 11 Nov 1997 11:33:06 -0800
Subject: Featherweight Bottom Plats Wanted

WANTED:  2 bottom plates for Featherweight machines (1941 models).  
Date: Tue, 11 Nov 1997 12:31:12 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Singer Number?

Hi everyone!

New to the List, but love it - it's the only List (and I belong to a few)
that I bother to print out, along with ISMACS and TSMs, everyone seems so
nice and very helpful.  So I'm hoping someone can help me out here.  I'm in
Canada and seem unable to get through to that 1-800 to Singer in the States
- is there a number I can call in Canada to find out my fws birthdays?  And
like Sue, I also have a problem with winding the bobbin, or not in this
case, on one of the 221s, so I shall be interested to hear if anyone has a
cure for that.  Finally, anyone know if a walking foot was made specifically
for the 301?

Thanks for the interesting read every day, yes with a cup of coffee (!) and
all the tips and help I derive from this list.

Date: Tue, 11 Nov 1997 13:04:35 -0500 (EST)
Subject: quilter's post from another list

Hi All,
The following message was from a quilter on the Bernina list.  I thought some
of you quilters would be interested in the note about the machine appliqued
quilt from 1875.
Gail R.

Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 10/31 & 11/1/97
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 1997 09:49:21 -0600

Last night I went to a meeting of the Van Alstyne (TX) Quilter's Guild. The
guest speaker was Carolyn Miller, a quilter, teacher and collector. She has
over 100 quilts in her collection and brought some last night. One has
fabric dated to 1845.  Some of the colors were horrific, but she said you
can't buy a quilt to "go with" your house.  The workmanship was astounding.
One was machine appliqued, frm about 1875, with was claimed to be the first
sewing machine in the county. Really fun to see.
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 11/8/97
Date: Tue, 11 Nov 1997 21:20:12 +0000

Help re Alpha foot

A lady in the Isle of Man who has bought a FW from me is asking about an
"Alpha Foot". Anyone help please.

To Kay re Featherweight prices

Very few antique dealers are experts on sewing machines  so they simply
look around at other prices when one comes along.
 With speciaslists things are different .Maggie, for example has
Featherweights from $50 (parts, and not many of them, machine) to $1200
(222 Freearm)

Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 11/7/97
Date: Tue, 11 Nov 1997 21:20:08 +0000

To Bob re mysteries

Your latest mystery machine (no 5) was made by Ballin of Hamburg in the
1885 to 1905 period.

The New Williams Singer card  is simply one from the Canadian  New Williams
company which produced Singer clones and, not being in the USA, could
suggest that they were connected with the factory with less fear of

To Bill

White is alive and kicking -- albeit with a new owner. You can contact the
company at 1-800 446 2333

Date: Tue, 11 Nov 1997 16:09:02 -0600 (CST)
Subject: machine

My daughter found a small lightweight, green GE sewing machine, Model N
3632.  The storage case is black.  I would appreciate any information anyone
has on this machine.  Thanks.  Ginger

Date: Tue, 11 Nov 1997 17:57:12 -0500
Subject: Manual in English Needed For Singer Zigzagger 160990

Hello, fellow FWF'ers.  I recently purchased a Singer Zigzagger number
160990.  It is in a plastic box with a hinged lid.  On the top of the
box is the Singer logo, red "S" shield and "Made in Switzerland".  The
zigzagger itself is silver in color, stamped "Singer" and "Made in
Switzerland" and has two black plastic knobs (one of which is marked
Singer).  The zigzagger fits a low shank machine and came with 10 small
metal discs that control the zigzag pattern.  My problem is that the
instruction sheet (booklet) is in either Spanish or Italian and I'm not
bilingual (I have enough trouble with English).  Does any one of you
have an original or copy of the English version of the instruction sheet
(booklet) for this zigzagger that I could purchase?  Or any information
about this zigzagger you can provide would be appreciated.  TIA
Subject: New Featherweight
Date: Tue, 11 Nov 1997 19:23:20 -0500

Hi, Just wanted all to know I finally got a Featherweight yesterday. 
Managed to get a 1947 model for $265, shipping incl. Has a case, which is a
little rough, but has working latches, no key.  No manual or attachments
came with it, but I can't complain for the price.  It looks pretty decent,
paint bright w/no chips.  Decals brightly intact, except for two areas at
the front of the bed, so overall about 80%.  

It runs smoothly, but is a little slow.  If we disconnect the belt and
wheel from the motor, it runs very fast, so the motor is good.  It goes as
fast as I will ever need it to, but husband is concerned about the drag on
the motor from pulling on something that is somewhat "hung up."  Any of our
experts have any input on this?  Is this going to cause a problem down the
line, or should I just let it try to work itself out, hoping that as the
WD40 gradually works it's way into everything, it will free it up more?  We
have cleaned out all lint and taken the wheel off and cleaned that very

Hoping for a little help, TIA.

Date: Tue, 11 Nov 1997 19:59:51
Subject: Puzzle box

Dear all;

I need help on identifying what attatchments belongs in my puzzle box.  I
got the puzzle box along with a Singer Egyptian Vibratory #2 whe I was a
small child ( fourth grader)  Anyway I need to know if someone has a good
picture of what attatchments belong in the box and how they are arranged. I
found the picture on the Magsrags site, it helped some but some of the
pieces I couldn't make out. Also I have no idea what some of the
attatchments does.  Has anyone ever laid out the attatchments, idnetified
they and put it on a web site??????
If so please e-mail with that info : -)

Date: Tue, 11 Nov 1997 20:14:55 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Lube 301 motor

Hi Fwfers,

I just got my first Singer black 301.  It is a short bed.  I have a manual
but it did'nt come w/this machine.  The serial number on my machine begins
with "NB".  When looking on page 28 of the manual at the letters "DD" showing
where to put the grease for the motor it is pointing to a grease tube.  My
machine does not have any sort of grease tube that I can see.  Did they
change this feature on other models that maybe this manual goes with?  So how
does one grease the motor on this 301?

This is a very nice machine to piece quilts on. It sews a perfect 1/4 inch
seam. It will also stop "on a dime".  I thought only my treadles would do
that.   It reminds me so very much of the FW.  The bobbin case is the same
and so is the bottom.  Even the serial number is in a similar place.  This
could be the big sister.

Can someone please help me to find where I grease the motor???

Thanks so much!
Date: Tue, 11 Nov 1997 19:59:42
Subject: Help

Hello again

Also I am afraid I started something.  Now I have all my friends looking
for, and buying machines...but not for me!  

That is OK, my friend bought a real nice 99 in a somewhat beat up case.
The sewing arm was out of the black matt finish and the decals were plain,
but not worn.  I was a bit puzzled that the fly wheel and the metal piece
over the belt was made out of the shinny black finish.  Has anyone ever
heard of a two finish, matt and shinny for a machine.  I thought perhapps
it was replaced at on time.  The machine worked just fine and my friend
bought it anywhay.

Please e-mail me if you know anything about this :>)

Date: 11 Nov 1997 19:16:30 EDT
Subject: The Santilla's collection

I meant to mention that while we were at a family reunion in
Gaithersburg, we had the good fortune to visit Krissi and Bob's
home and see their collection.  It is gorgeous!  Didn't know there were
so many items that Singer made.  Although the reunion was nice, this was
the highlight of our trip.  I'm afraid they thought there was something
wrong with me....Just couldn't stop looking at and drooling over all the
featherweights, spool cabinets, oilcans and bottles, and all the other
collectibles they have found over the years.  We *are* very new to
collecting, but probably won't live long enough to find half the goodies
they display in their house.  Thanks again, Krissi and Bob!
Wish we could have been there for the fwf gathering, as I'm sure it was
great!   Marge and Dick 
Subject: Quilt Challenge
Date: Tue, 11 Nov 1997 19:13:39 -0800


It's possible this will be a moot post by the time it appears, but
did I miss a list covering the status of the Quilt Challenge?   I am
eagerly looking forward to seeing the quilts, but havent' heard
anything about it since just before the closing date, when I
understand we had 8 entries.  That latter rather surprised me... I
honestly anticipated that with the size of our list we would have
something like 50 to 75.

Have picked up a few additions... a Singer bank, a truck, a very nice
306 and a Spartan.  Still working on how to expand the shelving in
the sewing room.  Think I have a couple of ideas that might work.

Captain Dick
Date: Tue, 11 Nov 1997 21:01:49 -0500
Subject: singer sewing machine

I have a singer sewing machine in orignal cabnit and parts. sn m 
g031454d  Excellant condition  type 127,knee control Patent June 14,
1910 or Oct. 10, 1911 made in USA  The book with it  and I think most
parts are there. It is black. This is about all I can tell you at this
time until I go to my mom's and look at it again.  Thanks..Linda
Date: Tue, 11 Nov 1997 17:58:31 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Soft, padded FW Case


I just returned from a 5-day weekend (the best kind) with my mini-quilt
group.  Four of us transported our FWs by plane.  In order to cut down on
weight I put mine into a Rubbermade File box (they fit perfectly), but the
handle is VERY uncomfortable.  As I plan to take my machine away for
weekends often, I'd love to locate one of the soft padded cases I used to
see for sale at big quilt shows.

I apologize if I could find this quickly looking at the various web sites,
but if they're still available and someone could let me know where. . .I'd
certainly appreciate it.  I haven't kept up with the list for months, so
I'm sorry to ask if I should know where to look.

BTW, I had a wonderful time piecing on my FW--hadn't used it for
years--since I got my Bernina 1130, I guess, but it's heavy!

Thanks in advance.

Date: Tue, 11 Nov 1997 21:08:47 -0800
Subject: WANTED:


1.  Lift out tray only for model two featherweight case.   
2.  Featherweight case - must be good condition and model two case
    with lift out tray.
Date: Tue, 11 Nov 1997 23:50:00 -0800
Subject: stuff and such

 It's been a while since I've posted; my thesis is basically completed, and
is in the hands of my committee.  I have two weeks to touch it up before it
goes to the departmental graduate committee, so I've come (briefly) out of
lurk mode.  Once this is completely done, I'm going to get the Model 12
research completed and post the  results.  Any New Family/Model 12 owners
who I haven't been in contact with, but who would like to help me with this
project, please drop me a line.  I'm behind on my dating calls to Singer (a
combination of thesis and the LONG waits on the toll-free number), but once
the thesis is done, I'll get onto this one.  Just a teaser, though.  It
appears that at least some of the 12's made in England in the 1880's have a
different shuttle and shuttle race design than the ones made in America, so
those of you who have 12's that are missing the shuttle may have a problem
not just getting a shuttle, but getting the RIGHT one.  A British shuttle
will fit an American machine, but not the other way around.  Unfortunately,
the only marking on the machines that indicate place of origin is on the
shuttle, so if it's missing, there's a problem.  You can look at the
shuttle race, but the differences are hard to describe.  If anyone has a
machine that is missing the shuttle, contact me.  I'm going to take photos
of the two designs, and I'll be able to e-mail the JPegs to show you what
to look for. I've also found that the books that state that the 12 was made
until 1883 or so are WRONG.  I have several machines in the database that
date to the 1890's.

 On the subject of NF/12 machines, I saw one in an antique mall/shop near
Napa, California (cond. 6 or so, $395.00; YIKES!!), but it had the
attachments!!! The dealer wasn't there, so I couldn't  find out if she'd
sell the attachments separately.  The  lady I talked to said she didn't
think so......I have a tucker that came with my treadle, but  this is the
first time I've seen the binders and stuff for the 12.  They're brass, and
attach to the bed of the machine, not the presserfoot bar.  I need those
attachments!!  If anyone has some for the 12 that they'd be willing to
sell, please let me know.  While the machine didn't follow me home, I did
get the information for my survey.

I've been following the auctions on eBay, and there's something that I've
been wondering about.  I have a Singer Pinker (with clamp, instructions and
box), but I've never seen another in real life.  My computer is a laptop
with a greyscale screen, so the pictures are all in back and white, and the
pictures of the pinkers that have come up for auction looked just like
mine.  My computer was down last week, so I logged on with my husband's
machine, and there was a pinker being sold that had a silver bed and cloth
guide (amazing what a color monitor will show!).  Mine has a black bed and
cloth guide, but since I had never seen another one it didn't strike me as
odd until then.  How common are the "black" bed pinkers??  I'm assuming
that they date to the same era as the "blackface" sewing machines.  Any

well, this is long enough.......back to thesis/lurk mode

Date: 11 Nov 1997 18:53:40 EDT
Subject: Wanted: NH front slide plate

I am hoping someone out there has and would part with a front slide
plate for an old treadle New Home machine.  Haven't been able to find
any serial number on the thing, but back slide plate and bed of machine
have a greyhound on them.  THe only patent date on it is 1887.  The
machine and the cabinet aren't in bad shape for the age, and the fact
that it obviously has been stored in a barn for much of it's long
life.The drawers yielded some very interesting buttons, trim, and other
neat things.  Would like to get it cleaned up and fixed up with a front
slide plate, as that is the only thing missing.
I think the last time I wrote we were headed for an auction advertising
an elna, and were harboring the hope of a grasshopper.....It wasn't a
grasshopper, but a nice tsp, that runs very nicely, thank you, and makes
nice stitches, too.  It's case also doubles as a sewing surface, and
it's a free-arm.  That's not the best news, though.  The auctioneer's,
although they advertised the elna, failed to mention that they had a
featherweight on the sale!!! When the bidding started, they didn't get a
bid til it went down to $25.00 (which was from faithful DH)  Thought
we'd get it for a song, until one of the helpers thought if it was going
that cheap *he* was going to be the one to own it.  We still got it for
less than any fw at auction I've seen around here.  In another box we
found the manual, and bobbins , and the manuals and bobbins for the
elna, also.  Dh wasn't unhappy that I dragged him to *this* sale, even
if it was a cold windy day.
Since then haven't had a whole lot of luck finding machines at auction,
but at a garage sale last weekend found a 301 longbed table the man was
using for his junk display table.  Told him the only thing I was
interested in was the table, and he said Not for sale.  After looking at
old treadle heads (with the front plates missing, of course) and fooling
around there, he asked what the tables were worth, as he uses it to set
up at flea markets and his garage sales..(I think we had asked him at
one of the flea markets we had gone to before if he'd sell..answer then
was no, also).  I told him since he wouldn't sell it to me I'd let him
know that if someone asks him to tell them 75 to100.  He wondered what
I'd give him for it there, and I promptly told him I couldn't go over
$25...After a few minutes, he said he'd sell it to me for that.
Couldn't believe my luck. I did tell him the only reason I was telling
him what it was worth was because he wouldn't sell it to me.  Don't feel
I cheated him out of anything.  *Now* it would be nice if we had a
long-bed 301, wouldn't it?  We really do have plenty to keep busy for
the winter, what with 5 treadles in the garage to refinish, and outfit,
and one inside that still needs work.  It sure is fun, though, isn't it?
  enough for now,  from Marge
Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 07:02:29 -0500
Subject: Portman Sewing Machine

Hi, FWF Friends,

We have recently added a little mystery sewing machine to our assortment,
and maybe someone can help us learn  more about it.  It's an Elna #1 (AKA
Grasshopper?) look-alike, but it's a Portman Sewing Machine made in New
Rochelle, NY.  Paint color is light gray metallic, and it's hard wired with
a small foot pedal, instead of the #1's knee bar, but otherwise, all it's
design features looks exactly the same.  Anyone ever seen or heard of a
Portman, which goes by the initials PSM?  It's serial number is only in the
6,000's, so undoubtedly not many were made.  We are wondering if Portman
was an independent company that cloned the #1 or if Elna jobbed out
badge-machines.  It needs a good cleaning and oiling, but it runs, and
seemed like a pretty good $40 buy.  Thanks in advance for any input any of
you might have about this Portman brand and model.

Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 08:26:08 +0400
Subject: Machine pricing

At the risk of really stirring the pot, may I say a few words in defense
of retail pricing on Featherweights?  All of us are happy when we are
able to purchase our favorite machine at a bargain; those of us who
resell are no different.  I don't know what the selling climate is like
in other parts of the country, but here in Indiana it is rare to find a
Featherweight at auction for less than $300, and the ones I have seen
recently have sold for $375-400. Private sellers, when one can find
them, often have wild expectations about what their machine is worth.  
That may be fine, IF the machine is not going any further.

I don't know what other dealers do, but I carefully check out each
machine I buy, clean and lubricate, recondition the cases (and try to
remove "the smell"), rewire as needed, replace damaged handles and
latches (courtesy of gw - Hi, Glenn!).  I add bobbins, needles,
and missing attachments, provide a published replacement manual if none
accompanies the machine, call Singer for the mfg. date, and include a
copy of Krisi's survey form.  NOW the machine I paid between 300 and 400
for is ready for resale.  What's it worth?  In a market where the number
of quilters and collectors keeps increasing, the number of available
machines is lessening, and the savvy of machine owners is growing, this
machine is worth what a willing buyer and a willing seller can agree on.
'Nuff said.
Subject: Tape
Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 08:21:50 -0600

Hi, for those of you who purchase machines with old tape on the bed, here
is how we suggest you remove it. Use a hair dryer to soften the tape and
glue up and gently start taking it off it still resists, use hair dryer
We hope that those FWF that are heading south to Florida this winter or
perhaps you already live in Florida will consider taking our workshops on
The Care and Feeding of Your Featherweight. There are details on our web
page. We are also changing our E-mail address again. I will keep checking
the hotmail server but prefer to use the new, There has been reports of
inappropriate spamming on the hotmail server. Thanks Nancy
Subject: Free Motion Quilting on 201
Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 10:15:37 EST

Capt.  Dick wrote:
> I sat down to do the free motion work on my 201's, and neither of them
> wanted to do it!   The  hook wouldn't pick up the thread to make the

When you solve this problem, please let us know the solution.  I recently
bought a 201 with hopes of using it for free motion quilting.  My feed
dogs do not lower.  I'm still getting it cleaned up, so haven't sewed
with it yet.

If anyone has had success free motion quilting on the 201, please let me

Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 10:20:33 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Masking Tape Residue

Sue wrote:  
>Stuff like Goo Gone works fine when the
>tape is fresh, but I need to remove the old dried up pieces and it doesn't
>seem to have any affect on THAT! Appreciate any advice you can offer! 

I'm NOT an expert on preserving the finish of old sewing machines but I have
used WD40 to dissolve and remove tape residue, both dried and fresh, on lots
of other things.  And, on particularly sensitive stuff, you might try plain
old cooking oil - it will need to set longer than WD40, however.

Good Luck, Sue.  Let us know if you come up with a magic formula.

Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 00:38:50 -0600
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 11/9/97

Hello to all!
    I'm new to the list and have appreciated all the info being passed
along.  It's been very helpful.
    I had to comment on Terry's post about Cynthia Englunds "New Stitch
In Time" pattern and especially the fabric packet for it.  Her choice of
fabric for the chrome face plate on the older machines is beautiful and
is certainly a "must have" for my fabric stash.  I will try and find out
what company made this fabric and pass the info along to the list as my
daughter in law purchased the kit at the Houston Q. Festival this fall.
(and I'm not affiliated either....)
    I would also like to give some recognition to the Singer 603E, Slant
needle that was my partner for 30+ years.  It could and did everything
and I recently passed it on to my daughter and I'm sure it has at least
30 years reserved for her.  I remember the lady that was giving me the
demo, sewing through matchsticks. It is a tough machine and would sew
anything I could get under the presser foot.

Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 09:52:00 -0500
Subject: domestic machine

I have a Domestic trendle machine in great condition.  It still has the
operator's manuel but no copyright date.  I would love some info on this
machine.  There is no date or model no..  p.cooper

Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 10:26:45 -0600
Subject: FW221-1 AJ

Fascinating is the only way to describe the Fw conversations over the
past few weeks.  My mother was a very accomplished seamstress and placed
a very high value on her Singer.  I am still suffering guilt pangs over
selling it at estate sale.  How could I have done that?  Young and
stupid I suppose.  Anyway I love your chatter, companionship and

You seem like the sort who will help a not so young and still stupid
woman answer a question, so here goes.  I have been trying to sell 221-1
(that is original reason I joined your group) that is in excellent
condition.  I read the rating guide and I suppose it is an 8.  The
machine itself would be a 9 but the case has two wear spots and the foot
pedal has scratches and scuffs.  The card table with insert is in 9
condition.  It has lots of attachments in two Singer boxes (one very
good condition, one not so good), oil can, screw drivers, needle cases,
needles, manual (green cover) in excellent condition and works great.  I
have been asking $650 and I will pay shipping.  I have based this price
on FS items on this network but everyone who is interested has in the
end said they purchased a cheaper machine.  Are they settling for less
or am I expecting too much?  I am a pottery collector and half the fun
is the bargain hunt.  Is that what I'm up against here?

Your responses will be valued and greatly appreciated. linda
Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 11:40:24 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 11/10/97

Hi, I am a lurker and am learning a lot from all of you. I have Singer cams
that are like little top hats - I use the flat ones. If anyone wants -
contact me via e-mail . Jan 
Subject: misc
Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 08:50:42 -0800

Re kids machines... a couple of thoughts.   First, I too would
consider the older knee controls unpractical for a small kid.   With
the standard "on the floor" control, the height of the machine is not
a factor.  A child can use a child's height table and hte control is
still perfectly placed.   I would not choose a 128... maybe it's just
me, but the long bobbin seems more complicated and fussy for a child
than a drop in bobbin.   My choice for these reasons would be a late
model 99, preferably the 99K with reverse.  Or a 185.   Re speed...
the "fast or faster" problem is strictly a matter of the foot
control.   Clean the contacts and try to get it running right, or
replace it.   New foot controls are cheap and easy to wire on... even
if they don't "match" the old machine, it's worth it for the child to
have control.   Hand crank is another possibility, and both new
spoked hand wheels and cranks (both are necessary) are available from
PD 60 or Brewers if you can get your supplier to order them.  I have
my doubts as to the ease of sewing on a cranker, never having tried
it.  But they were used world wide, so that's probably just ignorance
talking.   Maybe I should try a quilt on one.

Re White... I have a simple catch phrase that helps with all aspects
of threading and using Whites.... "White is Singer spelled
backwards."   Everything seems to be reversed... the handwheel turns
opposite, the thread comes off the bobbin opposite, etc.

Captain Dick
Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 14:19:24 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Left-handed machines

As a left-handed person, I use a regular machine.  however.....i found I
needed one in which the presser foot lever was center or left rather than
right (cut down on choices).  So that's a thought.

Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 13:39:39 -0600
Subject: WANTED

I am looking for a Singer Featherweight 221 for my sister in
California.  Any help would be appreciated.

Lou Ann  
Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 16:17:47 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Davis machine

I found an old treadle machine yesterday.  It says Davis N T on the arm.  It
used to have a lot of pretty flower designs on the head but some one varished
over it.  I was really interested when I got it home as is almost a duplicate
of my Minnesota A which I knew was made by Davis for Sears and Roebuck.  The
only things different are the decorations and the shuttle is marked Davis.  I
can't find any numbers or marks of identification on the head and have not
found much information on Davis.  Can anyone steer me to some info on the
Davis Co.?  I believe my Minnesota is about 1902 era.

TIA, Pat
Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 17:15:32 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 11/10/97

In a message dated 97-11-12 09:41:54 EST, you write:

>> maybe someone would have some ideas for me too! >>

Dear Linda ,

I agree with you that 7 is kinda young for a child to own a gorgeous valuable
antique. I can think of a few of us here who would be happy to take it off
your hands. LOL Maybe she could get a regular easier to use machine and keep
this one for when she grows up.

Subject: Model 99 key
Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 07:49:38 -0800

Helen C ask about a key for her model 99 case.
If your case is like mine it takes a square key.  I ordered a key from
Howard Baker in VA and alas it didn't fit.  (Fortunately it did fit my
Eldridge handcrank case)  DH looked at the case and took an old screw
driver and ground it down to a square and it works perfectly.   

If you cannot make a key, you might look at clock shops as many of the
clock winder keys are similar and you can find one of them that will fit.

Subject: bentwood keys and seam guides
Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 18:59:04 -0500

First, about the bentwood case keys (Singer). There seems to be quite a bit
of talk about these lately, but those I've seen described/pictured won't fit
any of our bentwood cases! These are the keys that have a simple, flat end,
almost like a little screwdriver. Ours, on the other hand, are notched on
either side, near the end, to clear the slotted "guard plate" that is in the
locks. One of our keys, which came with the old, knee-lever 128, is plain,
and the second, which we found in a "big box o' keys" at an antique shop is
marked "124428 SIMANCO.U.S.A".  All of our bentwood cases (all pre-war, I
think) can only be opened with these keys, or by slipping a 1/8" screwdriver
in just past the guard plate. Is perhaps the flat, unnotched key a newer

Oh, and a small note on seam guides. Seen a lot of discussion of masking
tape (yecch!, not on one of OUR old Singers, I went through too much getting
them so clean), Post-Its, etc. Why not use the Singer seam guide that screws
down to the bed? I'm not too keen on the older all-metal type (fraid it
might mark the bed, or something) but the "newer" style, as came with our
401 and 328 is great. The only part the actually contacts the bed is nylon,
and it can be adjusted right up to the presser foot.

Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 19:14:40
Subject: Re:young sewers

I wanted to put in my comments about young children and sewing.  My mother
was a home economics teacher, and of course I was sewing at a very early
age.  My dear sweet aunt gave me her old Singer treadle so I could use it.
Linda Heminway worte about how sometimes a machine with a oter was hard for
young folks.....it was like that in my case.  I was really scared to use a
machine that in mind mind could run over my fingers ANyway the treadle
was the answer.  I could stop on a dime and go as slow as I needed.  I made
lots of "good stuff"  om my treadle...which by the way I still have!

Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 21:38:07 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Boye tin

HI Feathers,
A few weeks ago I talked to someone about Boye needle tins & how they are
handy to have.  I apologize I don't remember who but thought a general
message to the group would get to the person.  On Ebay item # 1872995.
 Sounds like a pretty good one.  Happy bidding.  
Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 15:44:28 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Parts for the 500a

Hi, it's been a while since I've been on the list.  I get my e-mail here
at work and was getting too much mail so I had to get off the list for a
while.  But anyway, it's good to be back.  I'm still looking for parts for
my 500a.  Particularly cams for it.  I also need a manual and various
other parts.  If anyone has anything let me know!  Thanks!

Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 21:01:22 -0500 (EST)
Subject: presser feet

Annie - for $10 you could have bought the AlphaSew foot, which the "new"
little foot now looks like. It's all metal, and works like a charm - and
there's one for the 301 slant needle. I've been using them on my machines for
over a year now, and recommend them to all my students. I think the little
foot people had so many complaints about their foot not covering the fed
dogs, they had no option but to go the way of the AlphaSew.  Try it - you'll
like it. (no affiliation- just love that foot!)
By the way - did you know that if you send your old little foot in to the
company, you get the new one for just $10! Just say you saw it on the
Featherweight Fanatics!
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 00:02:51 -0700
Subject: Phoning Singer from Canada

When I first found my fw, I put out a query on the other quilt list that I
belong to and was given the following phone number to call re: birthdates.
1-800-877-7762     It may take a while to get through, and you may have to
listen to musak for awhile, but it's worth it. I believe you want to go to
the Consumer Services department and they'll give you the birthdate of your
machine. The Singer phone number for the place in Montreal, won't give you
birthdates but will sell you copies of manuals. Their phone number is:

Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 00:23:54 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Fire away

Prices at the shows
If no one is buying at the inflated prices they will come down.  If someone
does buy them they will stay at that level.  I like to shop at the last day
of a show.  Then the vendor are more willing to talk about prices.  Why would
they want to bargin on the first day, not in their best interest.  

As for the stores..they will sell them at a higher price (with credit
available helps) but  they will sit unless you have a buyer.  Telling the
store owner he is overpriced is rude.  If he is they won't sell.  Let's not
assume that everyone that pays more than you consider "right" lacking in
insight but not in money...they have their reasons and should not be
considered anything other than a person who shares our love of the old
beauties.    I would love to be a fly on the wall when some of the "enlighten
consumers" get a chance to sell an item at what they would consider inflated
prices.  Personally I buy as low as I can and sell as high as the market will
bear.  This is business not a moral or religious situation.

Children on machines.
I do not care how you look at it, an unattended child on an adult sewing
machine is dangerous.  Pulling on the fabric can break needles and hit the
eye.  I started sewing at 6 and mom was there with me.  I still managed to
sew my finger.  I KNOW it can happen.  I was advanced for my age but I was
still a child.  This is a machine.  Look at the old toys...they were not safe
for an unattended child.  Buying one for them to have when they are older is
one thing, but at under 12 I would not risk leaving them unattended no matter
how good they are.  The handcranks are a little better but still not safe.  

Flame letters not required.  If you are going to thow a book at me make it a
Sincere's.  Rightous Indignation must be accompanied with a MO for $10 (US)
for processing.

Blessed Be
Date: Wed, 12 Nov 97 21:07:08 EST
Subject: mileage

Captain Dick writes:

Still doing my 3 miles a day, in spite of the back and the cold.

Wow, so you have an odometer on your sewing machine?  How can I get one?

Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 23:37:46 -0500 (EST)
Subject: A sticky FW question...

  I just got through cleaning up a FW that had been extremely over oiled.  I
mean this poor thing's light literally smoked from oil in the socket!  There
was so much oil in the bottom that if you tipped the machine on edge oil
would leak out the base.  Anyway, to make a long story short, the black liner
inside the base was so smelly and saturated that I chose to throw it out.   
  For the time being, I cut a replacement out of water color paper- figuring
it would be a neutral, absorbent liner.  (Someone suggested using the
cardboard off a notepad).  Does anyone know what these black liners are
actually made of (it almost looks like roofer's tar paper)?  A lot of
machines (301's for example) seem to use the same stuff.  I wonder if these
were actually supplied like a gasket for each machine or cut from some type
of generic "blotter" paper.  I wonder if the liner material is still
available or what a recommended substitute might be.  I'm assuming it's only
purpose is to absorb drips inside the base of the machine.  Any info would be
appreciated            ...and thanks again for furthering my education!!!
Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 23:37:39 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Left-Handed Machines

Thanks to all who replied about the idea of a left-handed machine (no one
knew of any such beasts).  I forwarded all the replies to the dealer and he
found several useful suggestions which he said he would pass on to the
child's parents.  Thanks again.  -Jodi
Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 19:50:22 -0500 (EST)
Subject: several things

Hi Feathers.  I finished the queen size Jewel Box quilt top I was doing on
the 66 treadle.  Loved working with that machine and also looking at it. 
It is beautiful.  Now I have put it under it's lid and I'm starting a
quilt called Around the Twist on the 401.  Have it's little table set up
in the family room.  I thought it was about time I used some of these
Singers I'm collecting.  I have never used a slant needle machine before
and love it.

Sat. we went to an indoor flea market and saw 4 sms, 2 of which were
Singers.  Nothing I wanted to buy, though.  One machine was called "New
Defender" Made by Mason in Cleveland.

My big news is my new old spool cabinet.  Found it in Circleville, Ohio. 
It is in beautiful condition, has six drawers and the Clark logo on the
back.  The drawers have glass panels and the letters are metal, not
painted on.  I'm putting it in my sewing room but it really should be out
where people can see it.

To Barbara  - I thought I was getting to be a world class
solitaire player and last week my DD introduced me to Free Cell.  After
today I think my percentage is 5.

Has anyone heard from Christine T ?  I had a taker for one of her
patterns but she isn't answering email on either id.

To Graham - Thanks for the offer of British thread history, but I'm
looking specifically for info on Clark or Coats and Clark.

 That's all for now.  Good hunting to all of you.

Subject: New Postings to Web Site
Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 14:14:24 -0800

Heads Up!

For the vents... Special Postings now has three pictures of the
performing stand.   Didn't mention it there, but note the black
patches on top of the stand... these are the hard surface part of
velcro... keeps the figure from sliding off.  

For the Feathers and Fitness Gang... I put up pictures of the newest
quilt on the quilt page, and of some new Singer items on Sewing
Machines III.   Also, on Special Postings, I put up two shots of the
Model 1200, which has generated a lot of questions to  me about the
cabinet.   I think this will show you what Singers "home industrial
use" concept was.

I have deleted the Pelican Page.  The picture of "Isle of Wight", our
seagoing home for 10 years, is now on "The Captain Thing" page.

The Special Posting Page stuff will not be there too long, as, once
again, I'm nearly at the limit with my server.

Captain Dick
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 11/10/97
Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 23:40:29 +0000

To Linda

Damascus machines were made by Davis, White and Standard at various times.

To Evie re expensive FWs

Evie, you've got this guy in New Mexico with his beat-up $600
Featherweights completely wrong.

His brother's friend's aunt in Ohio knows a woman whos sister's hairdresser
saw one at $600 (or comething close to that) in New York last year.

No point in getting angry with "experts" who know it all and, as I've
explained, this guy had done his homework.

Seriously, there's no future in getting wound up about this character. My
ploy in these circunstances is to say 'Oh gosh, wish I'd come here first --
I've just paid $850 for one a couple of towns away" The minute you leave he
hikes the price to $850 and never sells them. You win, he loses.

To Ellen
>>> There is a fourth kind of pub but the locals keep them a secret . >>
>Dear Graham,
>Now, now, that's not fair to keep us dangling like that. Please tell.

Sorry Ellen but I've taken the secret oath and nothing (short of a
considerable bribe) would make me break it.

Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 18:59:43 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 11/9/97

Re: Tape residue...    try vegetable oil  (perhaps your sewing machine oil)
 Works for me on many items. 

    Recipient of Sues "treasure"             Nancy
Subject: Re: Sincere Fiasco
Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 14:36:58 -0700

Hi all,

Gosh, I'm feeling really left out, BK didn't send me any inflammatory email.
I would feel really good if she did, it would indicate that she's at least
aware that she's cheated a lot of people out of a lot of money who trusted
her.  But it makes me wonder, how is she aware of the people who have
written to the Attorney General?  Do they make it available to the person
who is being investigated?  Does any one know what the status of the enquiry

A question...for those of you who have been lucky enough to find 301 cases
for their caseless 301's, what are the average prices of those empty cases?
I have 2 301's that need cases, but the ones that I find are pretty pricey.
I need a baseline so I can make a decision with some knowledge.  TIA

Also want to thank those of you who post of their fantastic finds...with
bargain prices.  Since I have been very unlucky in the last 6-8 months,
these stories of $20.00 FW etc. make my day and give me hope.  I've been
living vicariously through your wonderful deals.  I wouldn't  pass up any of
those deals.

Congrats to the lucky lady who found a pinker attachment for $30.00,  I too
think $85.00 is sky high , and I also agree with the FW who thinks FW prices
have gotten way out of hand.  Yikes.
$600.00 for a soso Fw is really nuts, but these folks must be finding buyers

Just my opinion...

Subject: Re: Sincere books letter
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 97 05:51:52 -0600

Here is the form letter I used for my complaint re: the Sincere Books.  I 
may have altered it somewhat from the original version, but it should do 
the trick. I did receive a response from the AZ Atty Gen'l's office.

Lisa in Illinois

Arizona Office of Consumer Affairs
Assistant Attorney General's Office
Consumer Protection Division
400 W. Congress, South Bldg. #315
Tucson, AZ 85701


Re: Non-receipt of pre-paid book order from BK

Dear Sirs:

I wish to register a formal complaint against BK, who has 
received and cashed my checks for the Sincere books and has not sent them 
to me.

I ordered one of the following:

             [list what you ordered here]

My check [check # here] in the amount of [amount] was written and mailed 
on [date].

Ms. K advertised the books in 1996 on an antique sewing machine 
collectors list on the net.  I understand that she collected thousands of 
dollars and did not pay the printer to obtain the books.  All the while, 
she continued to indicate over the newsgroup that the printer delayed the 
process and was promising that the books would be out very soon.

Please advise me if you need additional information.
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 08:37:46 +0000
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 11/11/97

To Judi 

I recall the late FWF, Robert  , mentioned a couple of times that 
he'd gotten machines that ran rather sluggishly, although the motors 
were in excellent condition.  His teenage son took apart the foot 
controls, adjusted something, and then they ran just fine.  I have a 
Singer 185J that is sluggish, and although I've yet to work on the 
foot control, that's the first place I'm going to check.  Hope this 
info helps a little.

Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 08:42:56 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Wanted--301 parts

This is my first post to the list.  I have been immensely enjoying reading
and learning every day, and am afraid I have been infected with the sm "bug!"
I purchased a very nice little Tan 301A at a local flea market a couple of
weeks ago.  It is in the shop now getting all fixed up to use and we are
missing a couple of parts.  I need a bobbin case (am I right that it uses the
same one as the 221?) and part of the tension assembly is missing.
Singer sent us a new one but it is white (new) and I am wondering if the
original one was a tan color, and if it would be better to obtain an old one
from someone who is parting out a 301A.  If anyone has one they would sell
me, could you answer this notice?   Also the bobbin case.
I can hardly wait to get her home from the shop and try her out!  Maybe I
will find that elusive FW someday (few and far between in my area) but
meanwhile I am enjoying her "big sister!"  It really is a nice little machine
and I love the way it looks. 

Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 14:35:45 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Holiday For Mpls Feathers

Hi Feathers,

It's all set!!!!!!!!!  The Holiday for Minneapolis Feathers  will be on
Saurday, December 13th at 11:30 am.  It will be Pot Luck,so bring a dish to
pass ,as well as show & tell and goodies to trade or sell. We can talk SMS
till we're blue in the face.

Susan   has very kindly offered her home for our gathering , so
please let her know you are coming by e-mailing her and she will give you precise directions re how to get to her house.

O-ooooh!,there will be door prizes too!!!!
Jingle,Jingle all the way!!!!!
Hope to see you there!!!!

Mark that date on your calendar   DEC. 13th  (Saturday)at 11:30am

Date: 13 Nov 1997 07:49:18 PST
Subject: children and sewing machines

To Linda  ,
      When I first got my 401 (with a fold down knee lever to press on
the foot pedal), I had never used a knee lever before, and I loved it!
When I started my daughter sewing on that machine at about age 7-8, she
let me know right away that she didn't like it.  It finally occurred to
me that being small, she could not brace her foot on the floor and have
any strength left to push sideways on the knee lever.  Putting the foot
pedal on the floor solved the problem.
      My advice, find a foot pedal machine for her, or modify
temporarily the 128 to use a foot pedal controller--look for one that is
more gradual in its speed control.
      Happy sewing.

Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 19:12:48 -0800
Subject: Wanted... Manual

Anyone have a manual or copy for a Minnesota model H ? This is not the
same as a model A but is similar to a model C.  
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 20:02:22 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Singer Pro fW

Hi All,

Last weekend on the Home Shopping channel they were showing a Singer Pro
Featherweight.  Said it only weighed 10 lbs and did 6 different stiches.  It
was white and sure did NOT look like our beloved FW's.  It was $149.  Is this
the machine I have heard talk about that is the reproduction (and a piece of

  I sure do miss your true stories.  I really enjoyed reading them.  Any
plans for some in the future??  Please??  Also thanks for the reply on the
Ernst Plank toy SM.  :-)

Date: Fri, 14 Nov 1997 07:14:04 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Case/Box for white FW

Does anyone out there have an original case that came with the white FW's
that they would like to sell?  The case would be beige and light green.
 Please advise and thanks so much.  M
Subject: Tape Residue
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 22:14:57 -0500

To Karen:

When I got a FW with tape residue on it, another Feather advised me to use
the hair dryer to soften it.  Sure enough, the heat softens the sticky
stuff and it can be wiped right off with a clean cloth.  Try that if you
haven't been successful thus far.

Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 10:03:51 -0500
Subject: 201 and buttonhole thanks

Hi all!
I wanted to say many thanks  to those who posted to this digest and
wrote me personally about my button hole identification questions.
I sure felt like some kind of NINNY to find out they actually say slant
or straight right on the front of the attachment!! Geezz...you would
have thought I'd have picked that up after reading this digest for
nearly 2 years now. Oh well...thats what makes it all ever interesting I
guess. Learn something new all the time.

I had the good fortune of being gifted a wonderful model 201. I brought
it home yesterday and she runs just great.A  friend wanted me to have
this as it was his moms machine, and he hoped  I would use it rather
than let it sit in his garage forever. Came in a nice cherry finished
art deco styled cabinet with a desk  look to it.Top left  little drawer
opens to reveal an ink well holder. Great stuff! Also came with the
right side,  3 rounded drawers full of it's attachments..........YES
another buttonholer........at least I KNOW now what this one fits
........... in maroon plastic case and lots of odds and ends
including 201  manual dated 1938. This is a nice old 201, but she was
used by a seamstress and she sure LOOKS used. Decals on bed near worn
off and black paint chipped on the front edge down to the metal. But she
hums along after lube and oiling as quietly as my Centennial model 201
does. She was taken care of mechanically very well. These sms are near
noiseless compared to many others. Never ceases to amaze me of the power
in them as they run so nice and quiet.

I have an extra feed dog cover plate that came with this button hole
attachment if anyone is looking for one. Postage only needed.

Graham................I think you can fire up that torch for the W+Gs
decal I am searching for. Seem near  to extinct in this part of the free
world. Thank you.

Made even more changes/additions  to my web site this week. Added some
great  service people for parts and repairs and services well know to
this group.  You all will have a good place to always find them posted
with their locations and e-mail address when you need something hard to
find. If anyone out there wants to be added to this permanent site I am
creating for this,  please write me.

I see a few good listings have made it to my classifieds page as well
and thanks for listing your items.I wish more would take advantage of
it. There is room for plenty!! I have a search engine for when there is
an extensive list to weed through.
I'd like to see the Singer Recognition Manual, Charlie's new Book and
Captain Dick's books there. I will leave things like those up
indefinitely if you'd like to put them there.

Well....... nough said.

Date: Fri, 14 Nov 1997 08:19:01 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 11/12/97

The case for my FW messed up.  Now I use an old bowling ball bag.  After I
took the ball rack out my FW fits perfect.

Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 21:50:40 -0600
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 11/9/97

Hello all.  Need your help.
I bought at the thrift store a Greist attachment for 50 cents.  What do
I have?  Will it fit my 221 or 99k?

It's in an aqua (blue/green) plastic box, about 2"x5" and 1 1/2" deep
(approximately from a quilter's eyeball, too lazy to go measure)
I cannot find a # anywhere on it.  It's black, and has the little
"alligator" or "open bird beek" on one side of it that I would immagine
fits over the screw that holds and tightens the needle in place on the
feather weight.  There's a couple of screws in the box, one has a hole
thru it and the other screw sets right in it although I'm not sure it's
meant to.  There are several little "tin"ny pieces that are thin, about
a piece about the size of a dime with a "fork"  thingie attached, some
say "medium", Heavey, light.  You know, I'm sitting here laughing at
this discription, wondering, how could anyone know what I'm talking
about and think this little dime & fork thingie look like the Starship
Enterprise (not 3-d)  This is just geting no where.  Sorry.  Maybe you
recognize the aqua Box!!!! Ooops here's a patent, U.S Pat 2687157.  Is
this the serial # I should be looking for? It's onthe plastic box, not
the Greist attachment.  Okay everyone, who wins the prize?  What do I
Where we're experiencing our first snow storm this season.  Blowing and
snowing to beat all.
Date: Fri, 14 Nov 1997 07:06:38 -0500 (EST)
Subject: WANTED

I am looking for the card table for my featherweight.  Can anyone help?  Also
am looking for the needle plate engraved with 1/4" markings and the screw-in
seam-guide.  If you have some to sell, please e-mail me.
Subject: Re: kids and "fast" machines
Date: Fri, 14 Nov 97 07:48:17 -0600

Regarding kids using machines that have only "fast and faster" speeds....

Somewhere I read (maybe on this list?  I dunno....) that, if the foot 
pedal is the lever type rather than the traditional FW button type, you 
can wedge a sponge between the lever and the base to prevent the lever 
from being depressed all the way. This will tend to keep the speed at the 
lower end of the range.

I haven't ever tried this, and of course you would want to be sure there 
aren't any 'hot spots' that could be fire or burn hazards (wouldn't 
"smoldering sponge" be a delightful aroma?)... but it seems like it would 
be worth a try and it's certainly an inexpensive fix.

If you're going to purchase a new or recent machine, and want a child to 
be able to use it, I know that some Elnas and Berninas manufactured in 
the past 10 years have variable speed settings. My Bernina 1130, for 
instance, can be set to a lower speed range.  And some Elnas have 
'turtle' and 'rabbit' spots on the foot control.  I'm not familiar with 
other current machines, but maybe they have similar capabilities.

Date: Fri, 14 Nov 1997 04:31:39 -0500
Subject: Collectors shopping trips

HI all:
A few collectors and I correspond regularly.  The topic of what to do if
you go hunting for machines together and both would like to buy the same
item came up.  Try just tossing a coin, this is the most fair I think.
Of course, I carry a two sided coin for exactly that purpose. ; )
(Only kidding!)
Date: Fri, 14 Nov 1997 08:29:00 -0600 (CST)
Subject: Daughter wants one too!

Hi All!
My middle child Rachel, took sewing lessons last summer,
and she took my centinial FW to take the lessons on.  
She is now buggin Grandma and Grandpa to let her have
one of their featherweights for herself.  She was 9
when she took lessons.  If/When she gets a fw, it
will probably got straight on into her room, and I can
just predict, it will be humming along for a long time.

Now a question, I've seen somewhere either in ISMACS
or here, a picture of a Singer Featherweight, that is
a "modern" machine, i.e. not a featherweight, in what
we FWF people think of.  A White smooth modern machine.
Does anyone own one of these and can tell what year
this was made, etc? TIA for your info! Gail 
Date: Fri, 14 Nov 1997 10:12:21 -0500
Subject: Sincere books

Heard some talk that some of you are getting mail from the famous BK. I
got taken for 108.00 can some of you email me and let me know whats
up??? Many thanks frish 
Date: Fri, 14 Nov 1997 07:06:03 -0800
Subject: Should You?


If this is an 1898 or so treddle machine you are refering to, and with
that condition you describe, I would not pay more than $20. for it.
There is alot of work to restoring a treddle sewing machine. After it is
restored, it could bring $300. in our Southern California market. The
work and materials justifies the $280 you would net. After the labor,
alone,(ten to twenty hours of work for one like that one sounds to be)
the price you pay should be no more than $20 to $40.

It sounds like the gold decals are coming off when you describe the
"gold and silver" decor on the machine head. Just under the gold is a
silver base that shows as the gold wears off.

Go to the garage and estate sales. 

You must learn, as I have, to not get emotionally involved in every
machine you find. Be willing to turn down the overpriced and bad
condition machines. If you are going to be playing this game for years
to come, there are many, many others out there that will love you just
as much, and  that are not in such poor condition. "Wait on patients".

Date: Fri, 14 Nov 1997 12:12:18 -0500
Subject: Little Singer Travel Iron

I found the most darling travel iron--made by Singer!  It's like-new &
really works, and even came in a little zip travel pouch.  It's about
2.5 in wide and 5 in long, and quite heavy for its diminuitive size. 
Has anyone come across one of these in their travels?

Robin M.
Date: Fri, 14 Nov 1997 11:20:53 -0500 (EST)
Subject: AG address in AZ

Consumer Protection and Advocacy Section
Office of the Attorney General
400 West Congress, Building S, Ste.315
Tucson, AZ 85701-1367
Subject: Anyone Know what these P/N's are ?
Date: Fri, 14 Nov 1997 11:26:46 -0500

 I was going through some Singer accessories we have here and trying to identify them, I found two that I have no idea what they are.

#121217, foot it has a lever on the back and a small sliding extention on the right side, lever releases the extension to adjust. Could this be a adjustable zipper foot ?

#121253, foot, about 5/8" wide with two slots either side of needle hole, seems also to be some sort of zipper attachment .

I also have a #121614, foot, described as a "blind stitch braider" could anyone tell me what this does and how it is used?

I also would like to find the following accessories for my FW.

Feed Dog Throatplate Cover: 121309 (specific to a FW)

If anyone has a parts machine - I would be interested in obtaining a spare set of feed dogs, I want to modify them for leather work (remove serration's & pad with rubber) or any information on if feed dogs are the same on any other model singer.

e-mail reply to : mtd006@concentric.net 

Subject: comments on Nov. 14
Date: Fri, 14 Nov 1997 09:24:27 -0800

Re feed dogs... someone said their 201 feed dogs don't lower... they
do... I run into this comment often.   The feed dog lowering
mechanism on the 201 is under the machne... you have to tilt it back
to reach it.   It's a largish (scientific term) knurled screw under
the needle plate area.   You back it out, throw the little lever it
releases, then screw it back in.

Re kids and machines... was interested in the comment about the
treadle, as I gave that some thought on my walk yesterday.   Was
wondering about smaller kids ability to reach the treadle with their
shorter legs... any comments.   Absent that problem, obviously, the
treadle would be a good and "fun" choice.

Must share this story.  a couple of years ago I was doing a treadle
demo at a quilt show... making a quilt on treadle while talking to
people.  I had some treadles there for sale, including a lovely
coffin top cherry Singer with a very poor condition but excellent
working 15-30 in it.   a young girl about 10 or 11  came by and was
fascinated with what I was doing.  I offered to let her do some and
had her sit down at the 15-30.   She was so thrilled I thought the
smile would split her face!   She went off and eventually came back
with her mom and showed her what she had learned.   They went off a
short ways for an animated discussion.   then came back.  turned out
she was a farm girl who kept/ raised chickens to earn her own money. 
 She had saved up to buy new fencing for the chicken run... her
responsibility to buy as the chickens and money made by them were
hers.   She had decided she would rather keep repairing the existing
fence and spend her money... $200... on buying the cherry treadle.  
Her mother discussed it with her and left it as "her decision... her
responsibility".   She bought the treadle.  I was a bit concerned at
the age and condition of the 15-30 and arranged a week later to have
her and her mother visit my place for an additional sewing lesson, at
which time I gave her a real good 15-88 to put in the machine, and a
display box for the old 15-30.  (which incidentally was the only owl
decal machine I have ever found... however, was too faint or I would
have been keeeping it).   The girl, whose name was McKenna Gill (neat
name) made a quilt of farm animal applique blocks and showed it to
me.   Have since lost touch, but it was a nice moment in time.

Captain Dick
Date: Fri, 14 Nov 97 15:40:44 EST
Subject: carrying case

I just bought my second case for a FW at the Grand Union for $9.99.

It is a softside cooler, with 1/2" very dense foam insulation, water proof
lining, nylon outside, two self sealing zippers on the top, two pockets with
velcro sealer outside, a sturdy nylon backpack type handle that converts to
shoulder bag or shorter, and without the machine it holds '23 pack,'
whatever that means.

AND it comes in great colors so I now have one teal and one dark purple case.

The name is Northpole and has the name 'Image' on the back of the label-NY
City, but no street address or phone.

I don't expect this to last 10 years, but I am very careful traveling with
my FW so the protection is fine.  And quite honestly, as much as I would
love to build a wooden case, my carpentry skills rank in the negative numbers. 

Ask in what asle your supermarket has hidden their coolers for the winter.

Subject: Trade in? Don't think so...
Date: Fri, 14 Nov 97 13:53:04 -0500

Well, I just came back from the local Sew n' Vac, where I went to get
the tiny screw that goes in the needle clamp for my 15-91. The shop owner
strongly suggested that I get into the '90's and trade all my old Singers
in for a bit of money off of a new Pfaff. Now honestly, would you do that?

p.s. Wanted - still looking for an original bobbin case for a 115. 
Date: Fri, 14 Nov 1997 13:53:39 +0000
Subject: Re: Visit to Sarah  

To: Sarah 
I am so sorry to have not contacted you about our possible visit with you .  Somehow, I lost your phone number and e-mail address and had
dumped it off my computer before I left home.  I just want you to know how
much I appreciated your invitation even if I was not able to accept it.  We
loved your beautiful, friendly, country and 41 days was not near enough time
to see and do everything.  Just wanted you to know I wasn't rude, just careless.
Subject: Compendium
Date: Fri, 14 Nov 1997 09:35:16 -0800

Hi, gang...

Abject apologies to all.   My ambitions have once again exceeded my
grasp.   I am working hard on the "Compendium" on overhauling
machines.   However, I have too much going on to get it out as
quickly as I thought I could.   Between the fact that it keeps
growing and the imminent approach of Christmas, I just ain't getting
it done.   I have to stop and get busy on my annual wood toys for
kids project for Christmas... these go to kids in abuse shelters and
on Indian reservations and I have to get going on them...   Also have
the quilted Christmas tree to do plus another quilt which it appears
will end up being a belated Christmas present.

Also, I keep getting notes from Feathers "am I including...."   so
the project keeps growing.   What started out to be a simple piece on
rewiring is growing into a general coverage work on all aspects of
things we discuss here on the list.   This is a good thing in the
long run, but obviously takes a lot more thought and effort.

So.... I am slowing down on it so I can do it right, and also to take
some of the pressure off myself.   Meantime... if anyone has
suggestions of things to include, post them to me.   LIkewise, clever
ideas, etc.   I am crediting the FW list as a source for much (most?)
of the info at the beginning, because a great deal of this stuff I
learned off of the FW posts... my contribution is mainly in
collecting them and getting them together.   Remember, this one is
not about identification, but about restoring condition, restoring to
use, and maintaining.

Sorry to disappoint by creating expectations that I would have this
out very quickly, but I'd rather get as much into it as I can and
avoid the "I just printed it and already have six additional pages I
wish I'd put in" syndrome (that's a pipe dream... it'll happen no
matter what I do, but you get the idea.)

Captain Dick
Date: Fri, 14 Nov 1997 19:56:19 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Responding

I loved your version of how to deal with the sewing machine salesman with his
$600 not-so-good-looking FWs.  I laughed and read your message outloud (very
loud) to my husband watching TV in the family room down the hall.  Thanks for
the fun!

Judi ,
I think Delia Weeder's suggestion about checking the foot pedal might be a
good one.  I got a 185J free this summer in a "junk" store in Oregon because
when the man and I tried it out, it wouldn't run.  He told me to take it.
 The whole time on our trip, I keep hoping that once I got it home, I would
be able to get it to run.  The light went on but no action.  Once home, I got
it to run in spurts, now and then.  So my DH took the foot pedal apart and
just put the wires back where they should be, tighten everything so things
would stay put and now it works very well.  I hope that will solve your
problem too.

Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 11/11/97
Date: Fri, 14 Nov 1997 21:51:41 +0000

ToiJenny re Vesta

This is a German machine made by the Dietrich Company.  -- named after the
Vestal (sp?) virgins.

To Pat re Singer numbers

Singer Canada do not offer the same service but ISMACS will check
numbers/dates for non-American members. http://www.ismacs.net

To all re machines for sale

Some time back a great friend  died in Las Vegas. I have the job of
disposing of his collection. My intention is to publish a list in early
January . I viewed the collection a year ago  and will give an indication
of pricing with the list of machines.

I will be in Las Vegas during the first week of Febuary to sort the
machines, take orders and sell to any visitors. Please don't come back to
me looking for a list earlier than my posting -- it just won't be ready. I
am simply posting this now in case folk want to make arrangements for Feb.
There are no toys but a large selection of domestic hand-crank and treadles
going back from the 1930s to 1860s. I
have a clear responsibility to set fair prices to maximise  revenue for the
estate but all machines will be priced to sell.

Date: Fri, 14 Nov 1997 23:22:55 -0500
Subject: 1960? White

Hi all,
Thought I could forget about this machine, but I gotta ask if anybody knows
what it is or has one.  It's a White portable, sort of a dusky pink color,
with a sleek chrome handwheel and the carrying handle molded in as part of
the machine head (not flip-up).  Straight stitch, pushbutton reverse.
Turned as smooth as silk.  Kinda cool.
The only anything with it was a generic White promo or warranty sheet,
copyright 1960.  I've not bought Whites, old or new, but wonder what this
is?   TIA

Date: Sat, 15 Nov 1997 00:07:33 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re:  FW Fanatics 11/12/97

Please help.  Can anyone give me info on a Spartan sewing machine.  My
sister-in-law gave me one that isn't in that great of shape.  It's very
rusted.  Are they worth cleaning up?  I am a FWF and have not seen anything
on this Spartan.
Thanks, Lisa  
Subject: Problems
Date: Fri, 14 Nov 1997 12:47:37 -0800

I am  experiencing major computer problems.   cannot read incoming
messages.  No idea what's going out.

May be off for several days.

Captain Dick 
Subject: A new Featherwight purchase
Date: Fri, 14 Nov 1997 18:18:45 -0700

Hi to all,
I am new to your digest, but would like to share a new FIND.
I started collecting FW's about a year ago, up until now have been paying
so-so prices. Last Sunday answered an add for a FW, called and went to look.
When I got there the fellow was trying to get it to sew, it was breaking
needles and he said he had it had been serviced last year and had not used
it since. Said it belonged to his Mother.  Well...it was dirty, dull and
many other things. He said it was a 1947 which I new was wrong. I figured I
could fix it , clean it , polished it, etc. I ended up paying Him $270.00
and I got a 1952 FW that I fixed, (only needed thread removed from shuttle,
cleaned & oiled), I polished & waxed it and now have a #8. It came with a
case 8-9, all the attachments in the original box, original owners manual,
one original pack of needles, both screwdrivers and best of all a
Featherweight utility card table !!

Thanks for listening.
Date: Sat, 15 Nov 1997 00:11:30 -0600
Subject: Tape Residue

"Skin So Soft" bath oil by Avon will remove any tape residue no matter
if it's baked on something.  I have used it for years not only for that
but it also works quite well on removing the black gunk from sewing
machines.  I also use baby oil and then follow up washing the machine
with Camay bar soap and then another wipe down with skin so soft leaves
a beautiful shine and does it ever smell good!

Date: Fri, 14 Nov 1997 17:47:43 -0800
Subject: Found A Singer

Fine Feathered Friends:

Today, I answered an ad for an antique Quebec Pine cupboard at a home
here in La Jolla, California. When I arrived, the lady and I realize
that we know each other. She is moving back to Canada. During our
conversation, she gave me bread from her new bread making machine and
butter. As I ate the bread, she asked me if I know anything about Singer
sewing machines. "Well, I don't know alot, but I am learning," said I.
To make a long story more interesting, she has a  black Model 201 in a
black case that looks like the machine and the case are brand new,
except for a little dust. It has a tray in the top of the case. It has
the foot pedal and a book that looks brand new. Parts and bobbins and
stuff. She said that she lent it out to a friend and there is a little
scratch on it someplace. I couldn't find the scratch in all that shiny
black finish. She said she bought it new in about 1950.

She has another Singer in the garage. It is a portable made between
1930-35. It looks like my Model 99, but it is in  a carrying case and
has a smaller wheel. It is in 9+ condition. The case is about a 7. It is
all there, but dull looking and rusty catches. Cleaned up, the case
would be an 8+. It is two toned tan and black case. Ther is a foot pedal
and a chrome Singer light on it.

The lady wants to sell the older portable. She asked me the value. That
stops me, because I must be honest with her. I would like to buy them,
but she would probably not take what I would pay for it. It is worth
more. The serial number is AD29496.
I told her that I would put it out on the FWF e-mail when she decides
what she wants for it, and we find out the model number.

She might sell the Featherweight as well. When I get the total
information like Model, price, etc. I will send it out with her phone
number and name, so that you nice feathers can deal with her directly.
You folks would pay her what they are worth. You would have to search 20
years to find a Featherweight in as new condition as the one she has.
It has a little bit of mildew smell inside the case. I told her the
"funeral home remedy" that I read on the FWF e-mail.

I didn't buy the cupboard, but we had a nice chat, and I pet her dog.

I will keep you posted on the sewing machines.
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 11/12/97
Date: Fri, 14 Nov 1997 17:56:02 -0900

I have had the soft side FW case for almost two years now and I love it.  I
travel alot due to business and my FW goes with me everywhere.  It has been
to New York, Penn., Houston, Seattle, etc. etc.  I ordered the case from
Jean Lyle, P. O. Box 289, Quincy, Illinois 62306.  Phone # 217-222-8910,
Fax # 217-222-6053.  At the time I bought mine, they cost $55.00 + $5.00
shipping.  Good luck - - you will really enjoy the case.  I also added a
strap across the back of the case that slips over the long handle of my
"roll on" luggage.  Takes the worry out of placing my FW on top of my roll
on.  Hope this helps you find what you are looking for!! 
Date: Fri, 14 Nov 1997 23:31:37 -0500
Subject: Thanks for help

Thanks to all of you who wrote with suggestions about my FW stitch problem.
Poor timing on my part, as I got all these great suggestions, but haven't
had time to tackle it yet.  I have all the ideas lined up, ready to get to
it very soon.  Really appreciate all the ideas---I'm sure one of them will
do the trick.  What a great group!

Subject: True story
Date: Fri, 14 Nov 1997 21:51:21 +0000

True stories  Series Two, number one ( OK, I've totally lost track of the
numbers so I've cheated a little)

I know I'm on tricky ground here for this is a story about an English
antique dealer who hated Americans. And I mean hated.

Bill was vitriolic in his condemnation of all visitors from the 50 states
and, of course, being in the antique business, had plenty of experience of
dealing with them first hand.

Most of us regard Americans much as we do natives from every other country
-- thoroughly nice folk with, of course, the one or two (usually doing the
whole of Europe on a three-day bus tour)  who are less than ideal
ambassadors. I'm sure you know the type -- loud sport jacket, pants that
would not be out of place on the PGA tour, very overweight  and constantly
complaining that there are no all-you-can-eat restaurants over here.

Bill's re-action to this type was legend and the story had grown up -- he
never explained -  that his mother had nearly been a GI bride ( went the
full nine yards but just missed out on the ceremony part) and had passed on
her bitterness to son Bill.

Whatever the reason, I'd never seen Bill in full anti-US mode until one
afternoon in a small antique shop in Dublin.

Bill, Paddy (believe me) and I were lounging in three rather comfortable
examples of the Irishman's armchair stock when in walked Chuck. Alright, I
don't know if his name was Chuck but it seemed to fit. Mrs Chuck was there
also but she just stood sheepishly at the door and said not a word.

This particular Chuck strutted around the shop struggling to stay upright
despite the vast array of camera gear more suited to World Series pictures
from the cheapest seat in the ball park than a tourist's requirements. At
least the foot-long lenses obscured something of the Bay-Watch shirt and

"How much is this chair?", he said pointing at a 19th century comode and
narrowly missing knocking a carriage clock from a table with his
dumpster-size gadget bag. Paddy told him. "What's that in dollars?" he
demanded. I translated the price adding on a few percentage points for his
temerity in thinking it was someone else's job to do his mental arithmetic.
The comode was "too damn expensive".

Chuck continued to strut the shop. Everything he asked about turned out to
be "far cheaper at home". We also learned that he owned a chain of gas
stations, had three Lincoln Town Cars, how much his house had cost and how
his two children had been voted the most popular at their private schools
for the third consecutive year.

I was getting ratty, Paddy was getting ratty but Bill the American-hater
just snuggled down deeper in his chair and emitted regular grunts of

After 20 minutes of criticising the stock and pricing, Chuck looked at his
watch, told us how much it had cost him and announced that he must get back
to the "quaint old post office to meet the coach". But, before he ushered
his silent wife from the shop, he had time for one more exercise in

He addressed me. "Hey, you a Brit?"  I nodded which was enough to light his
fuse and launch him into an extraordinary diatribe against the English.

The gist of it concerned  how, in the old days of Empire and Queen Victoria
(God Bless Her) we had raped and pillaged the art treasurers of the world.

As he got deeper into the lecture he got progressively louder. He reached a
crockery-rattling crescendo over the Elgin Marbles which Britain had bought
and saved from certain destruction in Greece a century earlier.

"If you Brits had any sense of justice you'd give them back. You took
advantage of an un-informed, ignorant, unsophisticated people and paid them

"When are you going to give them back -- that's what we want to know --
When are you going to give them back?"

It was all too much for Bill. He carefully folded his copy of the Irish
Times, put down his tea mug and quietly said:

"About the same time you Americans give Manhattan back to the Indians"

Date: Fri, 14 Nov 1997 12:53:30 -0600
Subject: Monarch SM

How common are the Monarch SM?  I have found a portable, shiney black
with oodles of chrome, electric motor, belt driven and has a dial a
stitch on the front of the machine.  As I understand the ratings here on
the list, it would be a 9+ IMO.  Their asking price is $40 and came down
to $36 when I started to take a second look.  It's been sitting there
for quite some time so I think they are ready to move it on out.
Couldn't find a number on it.

The only Monarch I'm familiar with was my mom's old Monarch cook stove
from years ago. It had lots of chrome too!  :-) !

Date: Fri, 14 Nov 1997 17:39:31 -0500

Hi FWF's

I am still having some difficulty finding information about my 
TAILOR-BIRD HAND SEWING MACHINE  MODEL P.H.2.  Other than knowing it was 
made in England I have no idea of age and popularity.  Any information 
and help will be greatly appreciated.


Date: Fri, 14 Nov 1997 22:06:14, -0500
Subject: FW Fanatics 11/13/97

ONe way to get sticky goo off your machine bed left by masking tape 
is to put peanut butter on it and let it stand for a while.  A word 
of caution though - dont use the crunchy kind - only smooth peanut 

I too have placed orders for patterns from Christine Thresh (three 
times now) and have heard nothing in reply.  Really wanted on of the 
FW patterns to put on a shirt for the Houston Festival.  That has 
long passed.  Maybe she will get one in the mail to me in time for 
next year.  I hope so.
Date: Sat, 15 Nov 1997 00:38:38 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Compac SM

Hi Feathers!

Once again I turn to you for help....I know I read about a sm called a Compac
in a previous digest....well,I found one (or rather GWillie37 found it for
me) & it needs a manual...does anyone know anything about this FW/99 clone?
It's made in Japan.
I will pay copy costs if anyone has a manual?

E-mail me at SewBear2@aol.com or perhaps reply to the digest so others can
glean the knowledge too.

 Annie  (yes,it's snowed...yuck..hampers my sm hunting)

Don't forget the Holiday For Mpls Feathers...Dec.13 
Date: Fri, 14 Nov 1997 13:40:46 -0500
Subject: post

Hello Everyone...

For  Sue  T.,  re:  Arizona  Attorney General... Send your Sincere Book Fiasco 
complaints to:

Arizona Office of Consumer Affairs
Assistant Attorney General's Office
Consumer Protection Division
400 W. Congress, South Bldg. #315
Tucson, AZ 85701

Be  sure  to  include  your current address, phone number, and refer to case # 
CIC 97-12827 BK

For  Graham,  re:  Alpha  Foot...  A  misnomer  for  the Alphasew (brand name) 
Patchwork  Foot.  This  is  a  relatively new foot that is used for piecing or 
anytime  you  want  a  perfect  quarter-inch seam. The foot has a quarter-inch 
'toe'  to  the  right  of  the needle and an eighth-inch 'toe' to the left (to 
prevent  interfering  with  a  previously  sewn seam). The foot flares about a 
half  inch  back  from  the  toe  tips to fully cover the feed dogs. There are 
quarter-inch  markings  along  the  right  side  of  the  foot and eighth inch 
markings  on  the  left. The foot is made of metal, is two piece (hinged), and 
comes  with  a  removable  fabric  guide  (to  aid  straight-line  quilting or 
basting). PS: This quality foot is about half the price of the Little Foot.

For  Shirley,  re:  Portman...  Elna  must  have  re-badged machines for other 
companies,  as  I  have  seen  an  Elna  Grasshopper painted a light grey with 
Montgomery  Ward (MW) stenciling. And a friend has an Elna Lotus in JC Penny's 


For  All: WANTED, dead or alive... I need the following Featherweight parts in 
ANY  condition:  Bed  Extension,  Hand  Wheel,  Defective Motor, Lamp "Shade", 
Bobbin Winder... 
Date: Sat, 15 Nov 1997 09:20:40 -0500
Subject: Re: 301 Case prices

> A question...for those of you who have been lucky enough to find 301
> cases
> for their caseless 301's, what are the average prices of those empty
> cases?
> I have 2 301's that need cases, but the ones that I find are pretty
> pricey.
> I need a baseline so I can make a decision with some knowledge.  TIA
> Mary in Meridian, Idaho

    Just another data point....The case I just sold on eBay went for
$31.  I believe it was a Singer case, but for a different model than the
301.  Contact me directly if you want more info (like condition, etc),
or I'll post here if others are interested.

Date: Sat, 15 Nov 1997 10:54:15 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Sewing machines

Hello, all!  It's been awhile since I've posted here, as I've had computer
problems.  I'm glad to be up and running again, as I enjoy reading this list
so much!  Thought I'd let ya'll know about my great finds recently.  I went
to one auction and they had three handcrank machines,  (two Singers, and one
Jones).  I was able to buy a 1930 Singer handcrank for $27.50.  The machine
itself is in excellent condition, but the bentwood case has some veneer
problems on the bottom part, in back.  It was fun learning how to operate a
handcrank.  I know one thing for sure, those women who used handcranks
probably had some arm muscles on them!  After sewing for about 20 minutes, I
had to give my arm a break!!  I went to another auction last night, and there
were 6 treadle machines there.  Two were in the fold out cabinet style, and
the other 4 were in the traditional treadle style cabinet.   Most of the
machines were in poor condition EXCEPT for one tucked way in the back of the
room.  It was a model 66 "Red Eye", in a 4 drawer cabinet.  I patiently
waited for them to bring it up, and by the time they did 2/3's of the people
had left.  I ended up getting the 66 for $88!!!!!  I was extremely excited,
as I was really buying this for my Mother, who has been wanting a treadle for
a long time.  We are both still on cloud nine about it!  The decals on the
machine are beautiful!  It even had various attachments, two screwdrivers, 5
bobbins, and an old ruler!  I also bought a treadle cabinet that had a 99K in
it.  Someone obviously used the cabinet for a sewing table, as the 99K is
electrified.  The 99K is in fairly good shape, and the cabinet is really
pretty, EXCEPT it was painted an apple green color!  The drawers on it are
"curvey", and there is some pretty scroll work on the front.  Guess I have a
winter project ahead of me!   Sorry for the long post, but I wanted to share
my "finds" with all of you!!  Happy sewing!

Date: Sat, 15 Nov 1997 12:27:19 -0500
Subject: WANTED

Hi, - This featherweight fanatics group is great as well as the
information.  My husband and I have been "lurkers" for quite some time
now.  We would be interested in purchasing the following:
  -original manual for Wilcox & Gibbs
  -original manual for a white FW
  -original manual for a tan FW
  -original box of attachments for a white FW
  -original box of attachments for a tan FW

Thanks. . . Margo 
Date: Sat, 15 Nov 1997 10:49:47
Subject: Robert C

Hi All: I am behind in reading my digests - since Sept 18, when I left on
vacation. Boy catching up is hard. Anyway, I read yesterday's FWF where Dee
made reference to: "the late FWF, Robert C". Did he die? I'm sad to hear
it if he did. What digest was it mentioned in? 

Belated thanks to all of you who gave me good hints on where to visit on
the west coast. I stopped at every antique shop, thrift store, garage sale,
sm shops along the way. At one point, I had more sewing machines in my
Explorer than most antique stores did. It was fun, but I missed you guys. I
have been trying to catch up on the old digests, but am going to give that
up and just read what's current. The problem with that is: What about
Robert? And what else have I missed. Shannon  
Date: Sat, 15 Nov 1997 13:13:32 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re:  Little Foot  Exchange

please could someone email me privately about how to contact Little Foot to
exchange mine for the new style for $10. T hank you.

Date: Sat, 15 Nov 1997 14:27:54 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 11/13/97

I replace the lining in the pan of the FW with felt.  You can get craft felt
for a small amount.  If you want a better grade then get it off the bolt but
the other is just as good.  BTW I clean the old liners by sticking them
between paper toweling (one layer on each side) and then in newspaper (thick)
and put a weight on it.  Gets it clean enough to use.  The smell is usually
gone by them.  If it does not smell better put it in a ziplock with a drop of
"One Drop" on a cotton ball.  Just remember that a little stale oil smell
will not be noticed as this is in a pan attached to the FW and not in the

Now I really like the 850 answer for the sewing machine store!!  Greed will
make him do exactly that.  Telling about the overprices will not.  Have to
admit that I pull on their chains a little also along that line.  Any way the
person that I did it to was not offended as I was not obvious....later they
sent a person to me with a FW to sell as they did not want it at the time.
 They also have a lot of old parts cheap.  I am sure that you and I agree
that burning a bridge is never a good idea....you may want to deal with them

For what it is worth I enjoy the postings about the FW finds but they are few
and unfortunately far between.  The question about how hight to go....if you
want it you will pay for it.  If there is any doubt then you will leave it
there.  I have had three people e-mail me privately about the 600 FW.  They
paid that and are happy with the machines....but they were concerned about us
FWF thinking they are not too bright.  Let us not alienate each of them were
very sweet people.  BTW the 650 FW with all the stuff was sold within 2 days
of talking about it.....by one of us.

Sluggist FW
Before you hop on the footpedle and fix it be sure by using another foot
pedal with the machine.  I have found more belt problems than foot pedal.  I
agree that you need to eliminate all possible sources and if the motor is not
sluggish after you use a foot pedle that runs fine on another machine then it
is that.

Waaaaa I want to come, could you move your state a little farther
South...like next to South Carolina?  Just for a little while.  Have fun and
I am sure that all of us would love to be there. 
Date: Sat, 15 Nov 1997 15:05:40 -0500 (EST)
Subject: another Centennial

Hi everyone,
I found a Centennial we *had* to have this past week.  DH usually finds them,
but I found this one!  I haven't checked with Singer yet, but I believe that
it is a 128.  It has the arcing shuttle, about the size of a 99, a godzilla
finish, (the hand wheel however is the shiny finish) and the 'blue' metal
needle & bobbin plates.  The decal on the bed is still in nice shape.  It's a
portable :-) in a bentwood case.  No key or accessories tho. :-(  I found it
in an antique mall.  The dealer had a tag on it which said "1940's Singer
machine".  I pointed out the centenial badge on the machine to the clerk &
talked to the dealer on the phone (interrupted the Packer game for her--best
time to shop, the stores are empty) and got it for $55 (plus tax of course).

Date: Sat, 15 Nov 1997 15:04:24
Subject: Wilcox and Gibbs

Ok all you experts out there I came across a Wilcox and Gibbs machine
today.  It was very hard to get at since it was on the floor, under stome
tin ware behind a table shoved way back.............
Anyway it was about 10 long and was an electric model.  THe wireing on the
foot petal was a bit frayed.  The sewing plate (chrome) was rusting and I
don't now if it would shine up.  The price was $90 and was marked down to
$50.  Now I don't know much about these machines, and I was wondering if
this was a good price?  I thought if it was I would go back and have the
owner dig it out.

Advise me oh wise ones...........

BTW I just hate going into a antique store and seeing all these sewing
machinnes with all kinds of STUFF piled up on them.  We can't get to them
to see what they are.  OK I am better now :-)

Date: Sat, 15 Nov 1997 15:04:36
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 11/13/97

>It's all set!!!!!!!!!  The Holiday for Minneapolis Feathers  will be on
>Saurday, December 13th at 11:30 am. >>

Hey how come we don't do anything like this in the good old south?????

Pam who feels left out ;-) 
Date: Sat, 15 Nov 1997 15:04:42
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 11/13/97

To; Cheryl 

Congrtadulations on you new tan 301.  I also have a tan 301 longbed and I
love it.  It sews like a dream and had everything included in the carrying
case.  It even had a pair of electric sissors that is still in the box.  I
belive that the lady who had it before me did not used but onece or twice.
No scratches or scuffs!  I was looking for a FW, but came across this one
and got it instead.
Oh don't get me wrong I still want a FW, but for now my 301 will do just fine.

Date: Sat, 15 Nov 1997 16:35:23 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 11/13/97

In a message dated 97-11-14 23:21:16 EST, you write:

>> for $10 you could have bought the AlphaSew foot, which the "new"
 little foot now looks like. It's all metal, and works like a charm - and
 there's one for the 301 slant needle. >>

I have a new old 301a, tan, and would like to know more about this alphasew
foot. Is it for 1/4 inch seams? What else does it do? I am a fairly new
quilter and bought the machine to take to class, so any help you can give
would be great. Do you have the address of the company and how I can get it?


Date: Sat, 15 Nov 1997 20:51:36 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Padded FW Cases

My DH met a lady at a dinner who bought a padded FW case while at the Houston
quilt show, and she likes it so much that she sent him information on it.
 The nylon case is $57.50 plus $5 S/H.  It comes in red or black and has a
zippered front pocket for controls and a back slip pocket for patterns,
fabric, etc.  It was designed specifically for the FW and has heavy-duty
handles plus a detachable, padded shoulder strap.  Also attached to the
brochure is a list of FW parts available for sale.

For more information, contact Jean S. Lyle, P.O. Box 289, Quincy, IL 62301,
217/222-8910 telephone, 217/222-6053 fax.  I have no interest in this
business and have not seen the product except in the brochrue.  I just know
that she is happy with the case, and I know some people have requested
information on how to find them.  I hope this helps someone.

Subject: Frank's Museum Sale
Date: Sat, 15 Nov 1997 12:19:37 -0600

No one has told us about going to this last weekend ...  I wanted to, but
it just didn't work out.  Were there lots of people there??  Tell us about
the great machines..........


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