Featherweight Fanatics Archives

October 1997

Sunday, October 19 - Saturday, October 25

Date: Sun, 19 Oct 1997 08:04:19 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Dumb question

Let me start off by saying I know very little about sewing machines. I just
bought an old Singer treadle machine at a garage sale. It needs a bit of TLC,
but appears to be in pretty good working condition. I would like to clean it
up and get it working, so I'd like get an operating manual (I can't even
figure out how to thread it!). Also, I've got drawers full of extra parts, so
I'm not sure exactly what all the stuff does or what the machine should look

The wooden part looks like the desk/drawers on the Singer model #27. The
serial number (AC986186) would imply a later manufacturing date. It has a
light and an electric motor, both of which are still working.

Can you point me in the right direction so I can get this beauty up and
running? Thanks for any help.

Date: Sun, 19 Oct 97 13:33:15 UT
Subject: Any help in finding replacement parts?

My name is Debra  .  I just registered the information about my Singer 
FW with your site.  It is a model 221K. The serial # stamped into the bottom 
is hard to read but it starts with either an F or a P. The second # or letter 
is not legible and the remaining #s are 204385.  I purchased It new 
approximately 1975 for between $200 and $300. Recently, a metal circular part 
in the bobbin housing broke into at the point where it is attached with a 
small screw.  When I went to a repair shop, they told me the part would cost 
over $100.00 and tried to get me to trade my machine for a new model.  

Based on this information, can anyone tell me where I can find this 
replacement part or the entire bobbin housing.  The machine works perfectly 
except for this recent development.  

It is Ivory in color and the info on right end states it was made in Great 
Britain.  Motor cat # is CAK 9-8.  Manual states For K6610 with (969) printed 
underneath the Form # on inside front cover.  Cannot find a definite reference 
in the book regarding the broken part.

Any information about this would be greatly appreciated.

Date: Sun, 19 Oct 1997 11:34:00 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Need parts resource

We have an old Davis antique machine that needs a part.  Do you know where we
can obtain a catalog or info to get parts?
Thank you,
Date: Sun, 19 Oct 1997 13:10:48 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: 1959 Featherweight

Hi!  My mom is a bit of a fanatic herself when it comes to sewing.  She's
very talented at it, and has the equipment to show for it, too.  She recently
decided to sell one of her Singer Featherweights, purchased in 1959 (she has
two).  It is in excellent condition.  She has no idea what to ask for it,
however.  Can anyone out there give her some guidance?

Many thanks!

Deb (and her mom, Jane)
Date: Sun, 19 Oct 1997 13:52:53 -0400
Subject: should i go back

just returned from the flea market.they have a singer condition7.it has
the 1000yr of sewing crest and right under it is the letters mr
the#starts withjc he is asking $25 for it one of the slide plates is
missing it is in a bentwood case with knee bar .when i opened the case
there were 4or5 spare bobbins the shuttle is also there .i just bought a
singer 329j yesterday it runs great.so probaly cant justify another one
today.thanks in advance.evelene 
Date: Sun, 19 Oct 1997 18:56:59 -0500
Subject: V.S.#2 0r Model 27

I went to an estate sale today and saw a treadle machine.  I'm not sure if
it's a V.S.#2 or a 27, but it had the Egyptian Sphyinx design and a metal
accessory box jam-packed with attachments (no manual or oil can).  The
cabinet had one small drawer on each side and needed some veneer work.  The
machine had the decals worn on the front of the bed and a small amount of
rust on some of the metal.  The original asking price was $150 and she was
willing to knock $30 off that. I wasn't sure if the model was rare or
common, but I thought the machine and the cabinet should be in better shape
for the price.  I left it there.  Did I make a mistake?  Thanks for your
Date: Sun, 19 Oct 1997 19:28:53 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Manual for Singer Sewing Machines


My name is Mark .  Would you be able to
give me some information on finding a manual or a book on how to operate a
1900 Singer Sewing Machine?  My grandmother pasted down to me the sewing
machine that her aunt had bought brand new in 1900.  My grandmother was still
sewing with it, but she does not have a manual on how to operate it.

I am wanting to know and remember how to operate it, so I can pass it down to
my children someday.  I would appreciate any help.

Date: Sun, 19 Oct 1997 22:06:55 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Wanted

Does anyone have the directions or a picture of the placement of the
attatchments in a puzzle box for a model 27, I also needacopy of the
directions for the darning and embroidery attatchment for a feather weight? I
will pay for copying and postage.  TIA.    Roseann 
Date: Sun, 19 Oct 1997 21:30:19 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: Come by and visit

Come by and visit Wayne Arnold at the quilt
festival in Houston.  He has about 60 or sew
featherweights for sale.  Tell him Gaileee
sent ya!

 Subject: More on Pitiful Pearl....
 Date: Sunday, October 19, 1997 9:18 PM
 Time being scarce right now, we have not spent much time on delving into
 Pearl's innards, but today I decided I must find out if she works.  Only
 got one bobbin with her, so painstakingly peeled the old hardened thread
 off, got it wound, threaded the shuttle thanks to Charles' Law's page,
 sure the tension was too tight, but voila -- stitches!!  It was a great
 feeling to get that treadle going, but dang, it gives your legs a work
  This body is not as old as Pearl but probably aching more right now.
 Now, can you get more long bobbins?  Interestingly, in her middle drawer,
 Pearl has two more shuttles besides the one installed which works. 
 Installed one is bright and shiny clean.  The two in the drawer are
 -- but one of them is "different"  Sort of like it is in reverse -- you
 know, when you look at a negative from the wrong way..........  What
 this go to??
Date: Sun, 19 Oct 1997 22:45:17 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: PIQF Santa Clara

Hi again. I would like to invite all FWFers and TSMers who will be attending
the PIQF in Calif next week to meet in the lobby of the Westin Hotel at 6 pm
on Thursday evening after the show closes for the day. We can sit and share
photos and maybe have dinner together. If you won't be there that particular
day, but want to meet other FWFers, stop in at McGuire's booth at the show
and introduce yourself to Gerry and Marilyn. Kennalee 
Date: Sun, 19 Oct 1997 22:58:32 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Lovely treadle base/NJ

I really missed this list lately (too busy to really read it) But am working
toward getting a working Singer treadle--I now have a lovely 7-drawer cabinet
with a 27 machine that I don't want.  Would like a 66 with really nice decals
like a peacock or what does a Red-eye decal look like?
Through Capt Dick and others I did learn that I'm not compromising the
integrity of the treadle base if I put a different early machine in it---hope
I understood that machines and cabinets were chosen independently of each

I thought I would just mention that in Andover NJ on the second floor of an
antique co-op on RT 206 is a beautiful New Home treadle base priced at $149,
There is no machine in it, but all the wood is intact on the top and  the
"New Home" brand name is written with raised large letters on the front.
 There are 
three drawers on each side with almost a finger hole arrangement to open the
drawers.  It really is pretty.  I don't live near there, but there are just a
few antique stores there and it won't be hard to find the one with a second
floor--sorry I don't remember the name.  I think it is safest to say it would
be open on Saturday---the day I was passing through Andover.   

Date: Sun, 19 Oct 1997 20:11:39 -0700
Subject: Good price in northern california?\

I am on a limiteds budget. Do you have a featherweight for sale that may 
not be the most beautiful model? I am willing to negociate (sp?). 
Date: Sun, 19 Oct 1997 19:44:21 -0700
Subject: Greist company

Patti asked about Griest company, who produced so many
wonderful attachments for Singer machines. About 3 years ago, when I
learned that Greist had been in New  Haven, CT I checked the phone book
and found that they for-sure were listed in the phone book. When I
called the number, I found myself in touch with another company (forgot
the name) and the woman told me that Greist was bought out by her
company but the name Greist is still used. However, they have not
manufactured sewing machine attachments for 30 years or more. I asked if
there was inventory left over and she said that it was all sold to
someone in the South, forgot again exactly where. All this was detailed
in an early FWF, if anyone has the time and inclination to search the

The annual quilt show in Westford MA is coming soon (early Nov), but I
won't be organizing any FWF meetings as I won't be attending this

I found a fairly new, possibly never used, Epson Stylus II Ink Jet
printer for $10 at a rummage sale!  However, the driver software was not
in the box and Epson apparently does not have an online site from where
I can download needed software. So, is there a Feather out there who can
send me the software????? Thanks, Millie
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 00:22:14 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Auction daze

Just  checked out 2 auctions this weekend.  One had a bunch of dolls,
storybook +, I think, (I'm not into dolls) and it included a Sewhandy toy
machine in it's case with a couple of doll mannekins, instruction book, etc.
 That interested us, but there were too many doll collectors there.  It
looked in great condition.  It was the first time I've seen that so I don't
know if everything was there or not, but it looked pretty complete.  That
went for $180  There was also a 15-87 with the flying bird decal.  The
cabinet was a little battered, but the machine looked nice.  That went for
$32.  That interested us, but we didn't want another cabinet!  

There was also a small sewing cabinet next to it.  An elderly man started
talking to us, so I didn't hear what that went for.  When we were looking at
the merchandise in the beginning I discovered that the attachments for the
machine were in the sewing cabinet, so I put them in the machine's cabinet.
 I did that once before, too.  I hate to see the attachments separated from
the machine like that.  I don't know how "legal" that is.

We didn't come home entirely empty handed, tho.  The elderly man who was
talking to us, said he had a bunch of attachments back at his farm if we were
interested!  He didn't have to ask twice!  We followed him back to the farm
he was renting to his kids.  He jumped out of his pickup & into a permanately
parked van and hauled out a couple dozen Singer attachments thrown into a box
and two 201 heads for us!!  Turns out that he was a janitor at a school (he
retired last year at 76) and the school was throwing them out so he retrieved
them!  There were a couple of Greist zipper feet and a couple made in Japan,
but otherwise all Singer stuff.  About a dozen seam guides--all with the
screws missing.  A few of the black attachments.  About 5 or 6 rufflers.
 Several tuckers.  A real treasure chest.

The auction today started out in the rain! :-((  We didn't stay long at that
one.  There was a Vertical Feed treadle there that went for $35.  The cabinet
was very plain & the drawers were stuffed with fabric, etc.  The head looked
like it would clean up nice.
So...no new machines this weekend, but we still got lucky!

Gail R 
Date: Sun, 19 Oct 1997 19:03:44 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 10/16/97


    I've been following the Fanatics for a few months now and of course,
looking for my first Featherweight. I'm wondering if I actually found one. 
    A garage sale in south Arkansas had a small two-toned green Singer
machine in a two toned green plastic case. It says it is made in Great
Britian and the only thing I can see to identify it is the number 185K on top
of the stitch length gauge. The person selling it said her MIL purchased the
machine new in the 40s...........  What is it I have here? 
      I enjoy reading and learning from the Feather's notes. Thanks.

Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 10/14/97 - Resend - Sorry, mail problem
Date: Sun, 19 Oct 1997 23:33:31 +0100

To Nancy

Don't know the Compaq but it could be one of the Japanese machines which
flooded into the American market in the 1950s just as German models did at
the turn of the century. Probably any pedal would do the job.

To Pat

Can provide copy manual for the 99K if you can't find one more locally.
Mail me.

To terri re Florence

I've e-mailed you a jpg of the tension assembly. Any problems come back to
me. Yes the wheel with the serations in it is part of the assembly --
sounds like all you are missing is the spring and the nut. Virtually any
spring of about the correct tension and an nut that fits the thread should
have you up and running.

Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 10/16/97
Date: Sun, 19 Oct 1997 23:34:31 +0100

To Lesley

In case no-one  else answers you . The 200 is not a Featherweight.
Featherweights are either 221 or 222 machines.  You will find a good number
for sale in the sales list of this digest which should arrive shortly after
the weekend.

Subject: Oiling Wicks
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 13:37:07 -0500

Just received the manual copy from Singer for the 127 I just acquired.  It
references an oil wick in the area below the feed dogs.  Cannot see
anything down in there so wonder if someone pulled it out, or if it rotted
away....... Can you give me a clue where it should be, and are they

Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 10/17/97
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 19:50:09 +0100

Some quickie answers.

To Barbara

The turquoise colour covers quite a range of 221 grom the very green to not
very green.  Gren, tan and black are the only authenticated colours.

To Rebecca

Vertical Feed was a brand name used by Davis Sewing Machine Co

To C Dick

I have the same form of test bench but included a low amp auto fuse in the
ciircuit. Saves a lot of time when there's a big problem.

Date: Sun, 19 Oct 1997 16:48:07 -0700
Subject: Smellies

As I begin sewing again, I thank you for all I've 
learned here. 27 years ago I started a simple but
large quilt which I'm now completing. After many
many moves, how it's still around is remarkable.
Has anyone else resumed such an old project?

	About SMELLS: R.C. Steele dog and cat catalogue
company, in or near Buffalo, and the New England 
Serum Company catalogue sell DeLiminator.   It's
a safe powder which works miracles on odor--
looks like baking soda but probably isn't. Right 
away it will reduce stinks and over a couple of 
weeks really eliminates it.

	Our new-used car was revolting with wet dog,
maybe a Bouvier, and the DeLiminator conquered
even that.

the Best to all,
Subject: Like a lost child......
Date: Sun, 19 Oct 1997 21:43:50 -0500

I learned to sew on a FW at age 6 or 7 -- I'm talking 1942-ish here -- I
got married in 1954, my DH knew that he must provide my own FW for me ASAP.
 We accomplished this the next year at a great struggle.  Time marched on,
went to Bitburg, Germany with the AF -- the trusty FW sewing anything and
everything.  Just before departing for Germany, I saw a 401 being
demonstrated -- Didn't know it was a 401, just "Slant-O-Matic".  Thought
about it for years, and then in 1960 shortly after the birth of our third
child and only daughter, my DH saw a machine in a window in Luxemborg that
he thought sounded like what I had described. (Gee, he was paying
attention).  Next thing you know, they were in the Singer store in Trier
(nearest city to us ).  So I acquired at 401 "G" (I have always *assumed*
the G was because it was made in Germany -- my first manual was all in
German).  After we returned to the US, things changed -- DH got off active
duty -- times were rough and I decided to sell the FW (over DH's objections
-- guess he does know sewing machines!!)  

Now before you cry too hard, I do have the FW I learned to sew on that my
mother bought shortly after I was born -- Miss Kitty is an AE from Nov 1936
-- same month I was born -- but I have begun to think about the one that
got away.  I wonder if she was a Centennial---------  and my daughter is in
possession of the 401 -- she thinks its hers, but actually it is only on
permanent loan.

Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 06:53:46 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Questions on cleaning up FW table & 401A case style

Yesterday, I traded some stuff for a FW table.  It cost me about a dozen old
quilt blocks, some old fabrics, and a large pile of older quilting paper
products (patterns, stencils, brochures, etc., dated from 1928 to 1975).  I
traded with a friend, and both of us are happy!

My new table doesn't have the insert (I didn't know that until after we
traded, but I'm still happy!).  Does anyone know if an insert can be made to
"plug the hole"?  It has the metal legs and wooden top.  The legs are showing
some rusting at the bottom and I'd like ideas on how to clean that up.  The
wooden top is showing wear, but I'll just use some Murphy Oil Soap and clean
it up.

I haven't tried my FW in the table yet, but I've used this table at quilt
shows with someone else's FW, demo'ing paper piecing.  It works real well
with an Ott lamp on it.

I saw a 401A at a garage sale Fri., in the plastic case, with most if not all
attachments.  I was hoping to buy it for a friend who's looking for a
401/401A, but someone else had it on "hold" and ended up buying it.  It was
an excellent price ($35) and I'm really disappointed it got away.  The case
was a newer type ivory colored plastic case where the machine sat in the base
and there was a clamp closure at each end.  Did the 401s always come in this
kind of case?  For some reason, I thought they came in a brown/tan luggage
earlier style case.  Mine came in the Queen Anne style cabinet so I don't
have a case for it. 

There's so much to learn about all these machines.  I enjoy seeing them at
sales, even if it's not a model I'm interested in.  I did see a dilapidated
red eye this week, no top to the case.  So dirty I didn't want to touch it (I
was on my lunch hour from work) and there was no price on it.  The red eyes
stood out brightly, though.

Date: Sun, 19 Oct 1997 22:27:51 -0700
Subject: Blackside FW

To Kay & Joe. What do you mean by Blackside FW. Is just part of it
Black?		Jack 
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 10/18/97
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 19:50:13 +0100

To Marilyn re Willcox and Gibbs

If you check the serial number (under the stitch plate on the main chassis,
probably begins with an A) I can give you the exact date.

To "Bistry"

What you have is clearly a FW 221K and the Singer service is wrong again. I
would expect an odour or even smoke from a dirty motor which had not been
used for some time.

To Kay

Not sure what a blackslide FW is but it sounds to me as if the machines is
seized and you are able to turn the wheel by beating the friction device in
the wheel which disengages the mechanism for bobbin winding.
Take off the base and squirt WD everywhere, take off the face plate and
ditto. Repeat every day and eventually it should free. You might try taking
the bobbin case off and seeing if this helps. Once it has freed up,
lubricate properly -- do not rely on the WD40 to do the job long term.

Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 09:32:25 -0700
Subject: sewing machine tables for 301s?

My parents, those intrepid Featherweight Fanatics, have picked up not
only FW tables for my sister and I, but also some other Singer
tables - blonder finish, bigger (sorry, I don't have the dimensions
here), look more modern.  The cutout for the machine is bigger than
a FW.  Could they be tables for 301's?  Perhaps I need to obtain
a 301 just to check.  :-)

Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 08:22:23 -0400
Subject: FW Corrosion

Hi fw fans, I just realized something I should have figured out years
ago about my first FW.
  The first one I bought came from a musty damp Michigan dirt basement.
It had white corrosion on the back bottom on top of and under the enamel
finish. The metal underneath deterioates and turns white and chips off.
 I have also seen this on old kenmores stored a long time. The
undersides of the machines get a white "frost" on them,
	Duh, Bakelite foot pedals, and metal.  Bakelight and metal
plus damp= corrosion.  There is a rule to not store Bakelight buttons
with metal buttons because the bakelight can cause corosion of 
the metal buttons.  
  If you store your FW's, it might be a good idea to keep them very dry,
and the bakelight foot pedal outside the box.
  This may not be new information to most of you guys, but it just 
dawned on me.  I don't know if this happens in dry areas of the 
country, but it sure happens here in Michigan. (USA)
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 10:03:53 -0700
Subject: Wanted!

I am interested in buying a Singer featherweight for quilting, doesn't 
have to be old, just in good working condition.

Date: Sun, 19 Oct 1997 23:56:49 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: NewHome/Family?

Hello again-----I just posted a message and it occurred to me that the
Treadle base I saw said New Family and not New Home on the front----What kind
of machines were New Family--or am I hopelessly confused?

At any rate---I have purchased a FW also while reading this list and I've
learned so much about all these other machines, too.  (When I joined the
list--I inquired about a 99 which I thought was a FW, so I've come a long way
since then) 

I just wish I would see more of any machines----to Trish in NJ----be glad you
live where you do, in NJ-----I rarely see any sm in northern NJ now that I'm
a reader on this list or maybe you get to them first.  
I'm primarily looking for a pretty and functional Singer treadle for my
treadle base, but think it would be fun to see some other ones that people
talk about.
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 08:01:19 -0500
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 10/18/97

Guys & Gals!

One of you recently mentioned that Penny's catalog had a toy SM and you
were going to get one for your children. I looked, and there are three
toy Singer SMs! My oldest is 5 and very interested in learning to sew,
especially quiltmaking. 

My question is this, should I go ahead and get him a TSM (and if so which
one?) or should I pick up an inexpensive portable adult model for him? I
appreciate feedback on this.  Thanks!

Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 18:59:50 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Yippee!!!

Got my first FW ever in September. Bought my SECOND, a Centennial, in
October. Am I hooked or what? After I bought my first, I just knew I had to
get another, and I purposely wanted a Centennial. Went to the last big flea
market of the year, and what do I find? A Centennial, which I was able to
dicker the price down to $275. It's in the type three box, no attachments.
But the machine is in very good shape, probably an 8 on Graham's scale. Runs
lovely, no problems. My DH is slowly getting with it. He knows I like SMs and
he's slowly recoqnizing stuff. He found two attachments, the blind hem
stitcher and the zigzag attachment, in their original boxes with the original
pamphlets. The dealer had $8 marked for each. My DH got them for $6 each. I
almost got a buttonholer, but the dealer had sold it already. When I read one
of the emails on FWF, the same zigzag was priced for $30. My DH definitely is
learning!!!! I'm so proud of him. Sad to see flea market and garage sale
season coming to an end. Just got to keep checking out estate sales now. But
then, have the winter to clean the house to make more room for SMs as well as
my quilting.
Subject: FW Sightings
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 18:50:54 -0400

Hi all.

Went antiquing this past Sunday and had a good time.  There's one dealer
that's getting to know me by name.  She's always on the lookout for FW
stuff.  I sent her the pictures of the cabinet from the web.  Hopefully
she'll find one for me.

Anyway, when we got there, we went right to her booth.  Well, she was so
excited, she had something for me.  She reaches into a display case and
brings out, not one, but 2 of the half-height oil cans.  She wants $35.  I
didn't argue.  They came home with me!!!!!  

I do have 1 question, though.  The one oil can said it was sewing machine
oil.  The second can says that it's household oil.  The price is printed on
one side - 10 cents.  Did these 'household oil' cans come with the FW or
were they for some other purpose / machine?????

  Saw a lot of overpriced Featherweights.  This one dealer that is always
at this show generally has a few Featherweights, and all are at the top of
the price range (he never has one for less than $450, no matter what the
condition!).  This time he had a tan one, and a black one.  He also has a
lot of Toy Sewing Machines, again, all at the top of the price range. 
What's funny (actually sad) about this guy is that he knows almost nothing
about Featherweights!!!!  You'd think if he was dealing in them for so long
(I've seen him for at least 3 years now) he'd have read up on them some.

Another dealer had a FW in about condition 7-8, no attachments, drawer
missing (yes, it should have been there!), and she wanted $475 for it!!!!!

The very last building we went to, we saw a sad little FW indeed.  All she
had was the machine and the foot pedal.  Bed extension was gone, as was the
bobbin case.  But she just purred - runs really nicely.  Well, this machine
was just crying out to me to take her home, clean her up, and fix her up. 
She wants to sew again, so bad!!!!  So we made a deal, and she came home
with us.   I have a spare bobbin case, and have a line on parts.  Just what
I need, something else to work on!!!!! 

Subject: Identifying 27/27/127/128
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 20:15:11 -0400

Here's the criteria I use for differentiating these different Singer models.
Does this seem right to everyone? (I suppose there's some glaring excection
that blows the whole thing out of the water.) Perhaps there's some real
"expert" out there who could tell me if this is correct.

    27 -- Full-sized head -- Low-mount bobbin winder
    28 -- 3/4-sized head -- Low-mount bobbin winder
  127 -- Full-sized head -- High-mount bobbin winder
  128 -- 3/4-sized head -- High-mounted bobbin winder

Or, the way it works in my head when I see one of these: "Full size=ends
with 7, 3/4 size=ends with 8. High-mount bobbin winder=has the 1 in front."
I'd thought I'd share this with everyone, and nail the issue down once and
for all, as there always seems to be confusion over identifying these
models. (Of course, this leaves out the older long-shuttle models, but those
are far less common, and have their own special characteristics.)

Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 20:28:26 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Stems and Pieces

Hi All!

Have finally got caught up on my Digests after ever-so-long neglect.

To Linda H : I would think you could cut your own spool felts if you
really wanted to.  But let me add that the "stuff" that passes for "craft
felt" at most local fabric stores seems to be pitifully thin compared to
the felts sold by sewing machine repair places.  And no, you are most
definitely NOT the only one who names her machines.  My first FW, who has
since gone on to a friend's daughter, was Lucinda Marie (she was a real
fussbudget when I first started to sew with her and I had pretty much
decided to name her after Lucy VanPelt in Charlie Brown.  Then I
discovered that the bobbin was in backwards and the thread was not seated
properly in the tension disks.  Since none of this was her fault, Lucy got
revised into Lucinda Marie, which is much more ladylike in my way of
thinking).  My current FW, a Centennial machine that also shares my birth
year, is Cassandra because I'm told that's what my Mother really wanted to
name me but my Dad evidently said no (exactly why he bought into "Lydia" after
having turned down "Cassandra" still puzzles me).  Anyway, she is my alter ego
and soulmate (after a fashion) so she's the me I never got to be.  (I realize
this doesn't make a lot of sense, but surely you don't expect logic from
most of us on this list....) 

To Bistry: In your case there's an easy way to tell.  Just pick up the
machine. An FW out of the case weighs just about 11 pounds.  A 99K weighs
LOTS more (which I know from experience as a Spartan owner).  Besides,
I've never heard of a 99K in a green & white case.  And there have been
many instances of the Singer records being wrong for individual machines.
Sometimes their information has to be taken with several grains of salt.

Grahammm.....vous.......sensitive???? Gee, all that fermented carrow juice
must be melllllowing you out.

To Kay: I must have missed something.  What's a "blackside" FW?

To Elaine: You need to make up your own mind but if you end up with a 401
or 401A I guarantee you won't regret it.

Machines Sighted: Returning from Pittsburgh over the weekend I finally
stopped at a flea market and an adjacent an antique and toy mall that I'd been
promising myself I'd look at someday.

Singer 301: Saw one "in the flesh" (or in this case, in the cabinet) for
the first time.  Tan shortbed in a 4-drawer blond cabinet that was missing
two of the drawers.  It was also missing the bobbin case.  At $50, I
wasn't interested. And I don't have room for another cabinet anyway. 
After I'd left the area, I began wondering if I should have offered her
$25 for the machine only.

At the T.C. Antiques & Toy Mall at I-70 Exit 118 (about 20 miles east of
Columbus, OH):

Singer 66-1 red-eye treadle in 4-drawr cabinet, SN: G9763787 (1921-1923). 
Condition 7 (best red-eye that I've seen in a long time).  No book, no
attachments.  At Booth/Dealer 357. Asking: $195.00

Singer 99 in Godzilla finish in bentwood case (but converted to foot pedal
so knee bar is no longer required) SN: AF290804 (1935-1939).  Condition 6.
 No book, no attachments.  Also at Booth/Dealer 357.  Asking: $130.00
(definitely overpriced).

Standard DeLuxe Syncro-matic Machine (Class 15 knock-off).  SN:A296650. 
Condition 7.  No book, no attachments.  Tag says "it sews".  At
Booth/Dealer 12.  Asking: #25.00 (a good deal if you want a servicible
machine, assuming it works as promised).

Singer Fiddlebed VS Treadle Machine (I'm not sure of the model) in
4-drawer cabinet w/metal pulls on drawers and oak lift-off coffin top. 
Could not see any serial number.  Condition 6.  Had floral decals of tiny
red & blue flowers.  Some attachments in drawers (with lots of junk).  At
Booth/Dealer 110.  Asking: $165.00 (when I win the lottery I'm going back
for this one -- it is such a pretty machine).

Sorry for the long post -- I guess I've been "saving up" for a while.

Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 05:30:23 -0700
Subject: Re: Did I find something wonderful - or what?

Greetings Fellow feathers,

For the most part I have "lurked" on this list becasue although I love old
machines, I am not the collector that many of you are, nor do I have the
time to go to Auctions, garage sales, thrift stores, etc. seaching for the
prizes many of you find.

Untill this weekend......

A neighbor of mine is moving out of their home of 45 years and was having a
garage sale.  It started Thursday and I sort of glanced accross the street
to see if there might be something of interest mostly for the kids.  Garage
sales certainly do make them feel like they still have some buying power
with their allowance.  It wasn't until Saturday afternoon that I spotted
what might be an older sewing machine.  So I wandered over to have a closer
look trying desparately to remember all the discussions on what to look
for, and how to behave, when spotting a potential gem.

There was it was.   An older Singer machine in an all wood cabinet.  I
started to get a bit excited.  I looked it over.  It was a bit dusty.  It
had obviously been sentenced to the attic for at least 30 years when some
newer machine was purchased.  There were a few stratches on the cabinet
that looked like they could be sanded down and refinished.  It was a model
128  with an AK serial number.  My mind was blank - was this a true find?
I opened the draws and found 2 green boxes of attachments - one still had
the parts wrapped in the original tissue paper.  Looking further, I
discovered a green box with a buttonhole attachment with 10 tenplates and a
box with a zig zag attachment.  All of these had their orignal manuals in
pristine condition.  At this point I decided, What the hell.  It's got to
be worth something.  I ask if it worked and was told yes, bu tit had been
years since it was used regularly.  It had been purchased brand new and she
even had all of it's service history.  So, I glupped and ask the key
question,  "What do you want for it?"  "Oh, I think $15.00 should be a fair

Needless to say, it is now sitting in my sewing room.

So what have I got and how do I take care of my new baby?  Did I find
something truely special?

And now that I have taken the plunge into actually buying an older machine
- how do I control my urges to want to run out and do it again?

Subject: Puzzle boxes/Griest
Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 08:07:48 -0400

I don't think I've heard of this before, so found it VERY interesting when
I received a copy of an article from an old Antique News magazine.
According to this article, John Griest worked for SINGER, and was the
holder of patent number 397,980 which is the Singer Puzzle Box (there's
even a drawing of the patent with the article)! I had always wondered about
Griest - seems to me that almost every machine I come across (aside from
Singers) had Griest attachments and I wondered what the background was! Now
I'm wondering if he STOLE his ideas from SINGER?? Bet THAT wasn't popular!
Anyone else know anything about all this? And here's another bit of trivia
for you: how do you pronounce GRIEST?? Sue 
Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 07:27:35 -0700
Subject: Baycrest Sewing Machine

I am a very inexperienced sewer and I recently purchased a Baycrest
Model 237 from a co-worker.  I am trying to locate a manual and I would
like to purchase a zipper foot for the machine.  The machine was
originally purchased from Queenston Textiles in Hamilton Ontario
Canada.  Can you suggest who I could contact to purchase a manual for
this machine?

Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 09:31:50 -0400
Subject: New AVI files

Hi fellow feathers!!!!!

Well, DH has been at it again.  We've bought a new computer and can
input videos directly into it, then convert to AVI files.  After our
first experiment with it, I'd like you to check them out at:


Once you have downloaded the photos of the 1908 Model 28 handcrank and
the 1864 Wheeler and Wilson, you can click on them and see the machine
operate WITH SOUND!!!!!  Try it, you'll like it!

Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 11:06:41 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: innovative musty smell tip

 I'm about to pass on one of those how to rid your featherweight of that
musty smell tips! In the family is a  mint condition featherweight but
musty!!!! You know the story!! Smell first takes over a closet, next the
room and yes tragically the whole house.;( Okay also in the
family(brother-in-law)is a fire/flood restoration business. Now what does
fire/flood restoration  have to do with it you ask? Well when you have a
fire you get that musty fire smell in your clothes,drapes,furniture
ect....Now I'm no scientist but what they do is place all your belongings
into a chamber and change the oxygen level. BINGO!! We sent the
featherweight through and it worked! Now isn't that why you subscribe to
this list,to hear solutions you can't get elsewhere?
     It's our cyber coming out party and everyone is invited !!!!
 Click on  Pro Oufitters logo ----unique embroidered featherweight
shirts,denims,sweatshirts ect.... 
 Click on Threadloose logo and you'll find imaginative cloth dolls(ofcourse
made with my featherweight)innovative ideas,mindful thoughts along with some
relaxing music. Something for everyone take a peek!
 Lisa and Rob 
Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 08:38:37 -0500
Subject: Sewhandy

> Just this past weekend I picked up a beautiful Standard Sewhandy
> (predecessor to the FW), black with all attachments in perfect black
> case.  My question concerns the stamping on the lower front center of
> machine which says: "Manufactured by the Osann Corporation, New York,
> NY   Successors to the Standard Sewing Machine Company". The manual has
> a date of 10-24-34 on the back cover.  I thought that Standard sold the
> rights to the machine to the Singer Company in 1929 (per FW Book) - so
> how does Osann Corporation get involved in 1934? 

It was the OSAAN Fur Machine Co that bought Standard originally,
according to Grace Rogers Cooper (in her history of the sewing
machine.)  They in turn were bought by Singer -- Cooper says in 1931.  I
guess the acquisition of Standard by Singer is more important news to
collectors than the acquisition of OSAAN, so that interim ownership is
not mentioned very often when people are talking about the fate of


Remember, if you're coming to the Houston quilt festival, or if you're
close enough to Houston that you want to come see us, we'll be getting
together this Friday evening, starting at 6:30 PM.  If you have
questions or want directions, please e-mail me or you can call.  Hope to see you there!

Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 08:55:38 -0700 (MST)
Subject: Singer 306

Okay, I'll show my ignorance -- I just inherited my grandmother's 306 in the
original cabinet (badly in need of refinishing; she put potted plants all
over it and watered them and let the water run everywhere) with the manual,
attachments galore, a box of cams, and a buttonholer in a green plastic case
with a snap closure.   So, is this a good machine?  She hadn't used it in
over 25 years, said it was frozen, but I took it to my favorite SM mechanic
and he got it to going just fine.  A little oil and clean-up, and it seems
to run just great.

Is this a good machine, or am I attached to it just because it was
Grandma's?  She made clothes for me on it when I was a little bitty girl.

Thanks for any info you can share --

Date: Tue, 21 Oct 97 14:56:56 PST8
Subject: Case Latches Sought


I am looking for a source for the locking latches on the Featherweight case. 
Heard through the rumour mill that a source existed.

Subject: Identify a sewing machine
Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 20:55:53 -0400

Hi, My name is Daniel . I'm trying to find some information on a sewing machine form around 1908. It was purchsed from a Speigal-May catalog in Wyoming. It is hard to read the exact name, but I'm pretty sure it says Speigel on the side of the machine. Any help would be greatly appreciated.Thanks.Dan
Date: Wed, 22 Oct 1997 00:10:25 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Wanted

        Hello everyone, I need help Im looking for a Quilter foot with the
guide attatched
for my 66-1 Singer treadle. And other attatchments. These attach to the back
of the pressure foot ,not the side. 
         Thanks, Debbie
Subject: Nirvana
Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 22:53:24 -0400

Thanks to Debra N , I have now achieved my goal of having
enough FWs and 301s to leave one set up for each task -- piecing,
free-motion quilting, regular quilting, zigzag for applique, & still have
an extra for my daughter to use while she learns.  This latest 301 is my
first black & first SB model and I'm quite taken with it.  Debra graded
it accurately, priced it fairly, and as a bonus, her child attends the
university here, so I got it delivered free.  

Now, maybe I can stop buying machines long enough to get some
of the new i.d. manuals and books I've seen here...Lin 
Date: Wed, 22 Oct 1997 04:13:21 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: My precious Singer 500A

Hi, Feathers,
A recent poster talked about her 500A as her favorite machine.  It's been my
only machine for over thirty years.  This lady referred to it as a
"Rocketeer"--does anyone know why it has this name?  Also, I'm still looking
for the slant needle tucker that fits the 500A;  I know it must exist because
there's a picture of it in my manual.
I certainly enjoy reading the posts on this group....

Date: Wed, 22 Oct 1997 08:28:12 EDT
Subject: FW Straps

Just had to 'endorse' the FW strap I've received from Amy Roberts.  A perfect
fit on my FWs, attractive and strong, and I now feel much more secure traveling
with them - good price also.  Kudos to you,  Amy.
Date: Wed, 22 Oct 1997 10:50:28 -0500
Subject: FW Tech Support

Hello all,
Hope someone can give me a clue what to try next on this FW I'm trying to
get ready for a friend.
How It Stitches:  Haven't gotten a balanced stitch yet, but even when it's
close to balanced, it goes ok for 4-6", then does several tiny rapid
stitches (during which the bottom thread breaks), then stitches ok for
another 4-6", and repeats.
What I've Done So Far:  Replaced tension thread take-up spring.  Pulled out
thread from behind bobbin case.  Not sure if there could be wisps stuck in
the joints back there (hard to see anything--could there be enough to give
it fits?)  Don't relish the thought of disassembling behind the bobbin case
and then having to reset the timing (I do have the Service Manual,
though)---is that what's necessary, or am I overlooking something simpler?
Thanks much!
Date: Wed, 22 Oct 1997 13:57:57 -0400
Subject: Help a friend who needs a part!

HI there!
DH has a buddy in his office who approached him and asked if we could
help him locate draw pulls for a New Home treadle cabinet he is
restoring.  I guess DH is getting famous in his own right for his
"contacts"!   : ) At any rate, if you think you can help, a photo of the
draw pull is posted to the Sewing page of our web site at 
Please let us know if you've got them and we'll put y'all in touch!
Date: Wed, 22 Oct 1997 15:21:53 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 10/18/97

Greetings Fellow Feathers!!!!!

While visiting a friend  she showed me a mail order cataolog from
Costco/Price Club ( a membership retail warehouse store) and they had a
reproduction singer 25 (15nl) egyptian scroll work, in bentwood case for
sale, $99.00 US.  Sooooooo, sucker that I am, I had to buy it!!!!!!!

It took only 2 days to arrive, unpacked it and the screws that attach it to
the bottom of the case were too short.  DH is buying longer screws today for
it.  Also the bottom wood case has some minor flaws on it -- but I am looking
forward to trying her out -- need to clean and oil her first.  The manual
that came with it is a picture manual -- no words to describe how to thread,
etc.   She is pretty  -- but would prefer an original!!

My MIL has a treadle machine that she has promised to give to me (if and when
we can ever get through the rest of the stuff in the garage to uncover and
find it).  However, she says she had it motorized.......... I am wondering if
that can be restored back to being a treadle????   without causing too  much
damage?????  I don't know what model yet, what condition, or anything!!!!!  

Hoping & Waiting
Date: Wed, 22 Oct 1997 21:46:42 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: Wanted (and a thank you)

Hi all...

First a special thanks to Jim W. for sharing his 401A wisdom and also to
Libby. Their enthusiasm and knowledge helped me find my 401A.

Now, for the quest.  I am looking for 401A attachments, cams, and a manual. 

Thanks for your help,  Elaine 
Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 01:07:57 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 10/20/97

For those of us who are too deeply involved with our dear little Feathers go
to  and see the amount a very good
condition BLACK  feather (1938 I think) is being sold for on ebay.  Notice at
the top that the reserve has not been met at that amount.  

When so many are asking what is their machine worth....who knows?  A white
one just sold for a lot less than this.  Is this too much....NO...if you want
it that bad the price is fine.  Would I sell mine for that?  No...not now.

Back to my same old line.  If is worth no less than the owner will take, and
no more than the buyer will pay.

Auctions..I love 'em.  Bet that next week there will be a lot of feathers on
there.  Will I still think I should pay less for one....yep.

Blessed Be and happy Samhain
Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 12:04:14 -0400
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 10/20/97

> And now that I have taken the plunge into actually buying an older machine
> - how do I control my urges to want to run out and do it again?
> Carrie P 
You can control this urge?  Well, now why didnt anyone tell me?

On those treadles that DH wouldnt tell me where they were.  Well, finally found
them.  They werent worth going to see.  Tons of rust and lots of missing parts.
Oh well, it was fun getting excited, anyway.


Date: Wed, 22 Oct 1997 18:03:33 -0400
Subject: Help!

Hi Everybody,
    I need some imput about a FW. I have a chance to buy another one. To look at the machine it appears to be a strong 8, the case is about a 7, there's the original manual, attachments (no box) and about 20 bobbins. The problem is the motor. It's very slow, the motor bearing is almost shot, and there is play around the pulley and/or shaft. As my SM guy explains it one shouldn't be able to move the pulley side to side and this one moves. There is also a problem with the switch - the light may or may not come on unless I jiggle the switch. At times it comes on when I flip the switch, other times not. The lady who is selling it knows the going price in this area is around $300-350 for a FW is good working condition. I have no idea what to offer her for this one, or if I should even buy it. Any suggestions would be helpful. E-mail me privately or on this list.

Date: Wed, 22 Oct 1997 21:55:51 -0400
Subject: Proper Direction for Threading Needle

This may be very obvious to everyone but me, but it just jumped out at me
when I was looking at one of my FWs yesterday.  There is an arrow on the
throat plate pointing from right to left which obviously indicates which
way to thread the needle.  I looked on a couple of other model machines
and the arrow was there, pointing in the correct position for threading
the needle, depending on the machine.

I don't recall ever seeing this mentioned on FWF (if it has been I guess
I just wasn't paying attention), but then maybe you all knew this

Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 09:36:03 -0400 (EDT)

Dear Millie,

Epson does have a web site.  I just pulled it up again.  It is
Hope that helps.  What a bargain.  Good for you.

Helen (Heirlooms by Helen)  
Date: 23 Oct 1997 10:32:18 PST
Subject: toy vs. real machine

To Blanche,
      You wondered about purchasing a toy machine or a real machine for
your young sewer.  I recommend looking for a real sewing machine.  If a
small size machine appeals to you or your child, get a Singer 99K or
185J.  Otherwise, most older machines in good working order would do.
One consideration is that the class 66 models with the drop-in bobbin
(Singer 66 from 1940-1950's, 99K, 185J, 201, 404, 401) make it easy for
a younger person  to install the bobbin without help, and the threading
is quite simple.  A class 15 machine might be manageable, but I
definitely would not recommend an older White/Kenmore because both the
bobbin and the tension threading is more complicated.
      When my girls were small I bought a cheap toy chain stitch machine
(about $10) and was quite disappointed because it didn't sew well at all
and was so light that it didn't stay put.  My elder daughter never
really used it.  When she got old enough to sew for 4H (age 8), I got
her a Singer 404 in a cabinet for $12.50.
      It so happened that the second Singer I had bought after I got
interested in older machine was a model 99K (circa 1950's, cost $5.00)
in a cabinet that someone had sawed the legs off even with the base of
the cabinet.  When I decided to give it to my younger daughter (about
age 4-5), I bought an 8 foot piece of 2x2 lumber, cut it into 4 pieces,
and shaped the tops of the new legs to fit where I had removed the
stumps of the old legs.  Instant child-size cabinet!  You could do this
temporarily with any old Singer cabinet with the bolt-on legs.
      If you really want your child to learn and to love sewing, give a
real, usable machine.  Most of the toys are too frustrating to use and
cost about the same as a garage sale or thrift store bargain.

Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 10/19/97
Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 14:38:35 +0100

To Carl

First thing to do is find out which model you have. Phone Singer on the
number at the bottom of this digest with the serial number . They will tell
you the date (1930) and the model. Possibly they will provide a manual; if
not come back to the list. I can probably provide but it will be cheaper if
you can get one more locally.

To Debra re white FW

Are you sure you mean 1975? This puts it a tad late for a Featherweight and
by them the numbers were in the F series.

Unfortunately the "hook" which has broken off at the jib screw is not an
unusual problem and whilst it should be possible simply to replace this
small part, I do not think that it was offered seperately by Singer at any
time. So you are into the complete housing. $100 sounds a lot  but there is
a lot of engineering work on this part -- probably more than the rest of
the machine put together.  Best bet is probably to try for a "previously
sewn" part from one of the specialist delaers.

To Mark

Please seee my reply to Carl

Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 09:04:04 -0500
Subject: RE: Graham's Scale

Hi, I am new to the FWF's and have seen reference to a condition "Scale"
-- now learn that it is Graham's Scale.     

Could we get a re-print or know of a source?

Subject: Web site address
Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 08:54:21 -0500

I am relatively new to the internet and have joined several e-mail groups
that relate to sewing and, of course, FW's in particular.  This past
week-end I received an e-mail message that had a link to an interesting
site that had quite a few FW's for sale.  Unfortunately, I failed to
bookmark the site.  The man's name is Bob Bannen.  I have been surfing the
web all week looking for it but so far, no luck.  I checked my history file
and the only thing it will pull up is the pictures I viewed while at his
site.  Does anyone know the correct http for his site?

I am in the process of obtaining my first FW and have really gotten hooked
on the subject.  I am waiting to hear from a gentlemen who is obtaining a
1933 FW that is supposed to be in mint condition and he has promised me
first chance at purchasing.  Here in Mississippi (Vicksburg) it is very
difficult to find older sewing machines (newer ones for that matter as

Thanks in advance to anyone who may be able to send me the link to this
site (the picture files had the address of
http:/webhome.idirect.com/~bbannen...and I tried various other things
hoping I could chance onto his site but nothing worked. 
Date: Wed, 22 Oct 1997 22:21:10 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: free Westinghouse

Dear Feathers,
I've been visiting various sites on my list of favorite Sm sites to look and
see if there was a Free Westinghouse pictured or any info on that line of
machines.  I am asking for a friend in another state who is just new to
collecting and has seen one of these machines and asked me whether it is a
"good" machine to purchase.  She didn't tell me how much it was priced.  And
I don't know what the model is, or what it looks like.  Were there very many
models made?  Any particular ones to look for that you know of?  I know there
have been mentions made of Free Westinghouse on the FW list, but now that I'm
looking, I'm coming up empty?  Please e-mail me soon  Thank you.

Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 07:47:42 -0700
Subject: Wood & Metal Care

To Karen   and others interested,

To take the rust off the legs of your sewing table, take 0000 steel wool
and some turpintine and gently scrub the rusty legs.
For the wood top on the table, you can use Howard's restoring finish.
Howard's is what so many anitque dealers use to freshen up a tired,
faded, and scratched wood antique. It will do wonders and rejuvenate
your wooden table. If it doesn't make it look much better, then it is so
bad that it should be refinished.

My story is that I am new at sewing machines but around a long time on
antique furniture. About a year ago, I was helping at an estate sale of
a friend. She said that she had this Singer machine that had belonged to
her mother and that she didn't want. She gave it to me. It had
everything with it, booklet, attachments and the whole "enchalada". She
said to keep whatever I got for it. She didn't believe that I could sell
it. I thought to myself that it would sell for $25. I didn't know. I
took it to my antique dealer friend who sold it overnight for $350. We
all went out and dined and celebrated. Looking back, it was about a 9.5+
condition machine and carrying case FW. It was the lighter color case.
They are the type family who takes good care of everything they own.The
machine wasn't used that much. 

Since my FW episode, I bought a Model 99 Singer in a walnut cabinet for
$25 from a woman attorney at her garage sale. ( Singer tells me that it
was built on February 24, 1937, my fourth birthday. I had shown up at
11:00 A.M. and she had a price tag of $50 on it. I wasn't sure that I
wanted it, so I asked her what she would take. She said, "$25". So, I
decided that it would be good to resell. My wife took one look at it and
said, "That looks like the machine that my grandmother had and was
swiped away by a family friend when she died". The machine is a 9.9. I
took off the .1 for the dust on it. It has a box of attachments. The
cabinet is a 9.5. I thought that it was a FW until I joined this group
and was told that it is a 99. I am not disappointed, as I love this
little machine. My wife likes it so much she won't let it go. I am
trying to get her to sew on it. I'll probably have to learn to sew on it
to justify keeping it in our guest room. I just like to look at it. I
have had it for a couple months now and just keep going in the room and
folding it out of the cabinet and looking at it. I can see how all of
you get hooked on this devine machine devices. I haven't gotten into
naming the machine yet or taking it to bed with me, but I can see how
they affect all of us. I would like an orginal book on it. Have a couple
leads from this group that I will follow up.

In San Diego, we have garage sales all year around. When it rains (very
little) the sales go on anyway. I have focused my attention on finding
another FW. I'm concentrating on $25 to $50 for it. It will turn up.

Subject: SM's for kids
Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 11:38:43 -0700


RE SM's for kids...personal opinion only, but...   few toys sew well
or last.   I would look for a nice old model 99, 99K or 185 J/K.  
These 3/4 size machines will really sew, and are heavy enough that
the child will not think of them as a "toy", hence is more likely to
respect them and take them seriously.  Whatever is learned on them
will stick and be transferable to any other machine.

Captain Dick 
Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 11:21:23 -0700
Subject: Greist and Anna Magnani

To Sue, regarding pronunciation of GRIEST. When I spoke to the woman at
the company in New Haven CT about 3 years ago, she told me that GREIST
rhymes with CHRIST. An easy way to remember!

AMC showed THE ROSE TATTOO last night, in which Anna Magnani plays a
seamstress. For much of the movie, she sits doing hand sewing at a
treadle sewing machine but never actually treadles. I could not detect a
name on the machine but it looked very Singer-like, maybe a model 15 or
66.  Gee, is anyone keeping a list of movies in which machines have been
spotted? Seems like during the past 3 years dozens have been reported??

Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 14:25:26 -0700
Subject: dampness and machines

In response to Cheryl's message on protecting your machines from
Send them to Feathers like me who live in the desert and have to run
to survive!   I  can definitely tell the difference  between machines
who have lived here in the desert for years and those that are
Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 13:11:51 -0600
Subject: Re:  Baycrest Sewing Machine

To Judy  ,

 Baycrest is the house brand name of all appliances sold by the Hudson's
Bay Company department stores throughout Canada.  I don't think they ever
made anything of their own, just stuck their badges on models ordered from
real manufacturers.  The Bay no longer deals in sewing machines, but I
wouldn't try to order parts from them even if they did.   I would guess
that your machine is probably of Japanese origin, depending on its age and
takes low shank generic attachments.  Your best source would be a sewing
shop that sells such stuff.  If your machine is portable, take it with you
and you should be able to get fitted with  a satisfactory zipper foot for a
couple of dollars.  A knowledgeable technician should be able to tell you
anything you need to know about it in case you never locate a manual.  I
also own a department store SM and its manual is indeed brief.  I suppose
it saves in translation costs.

Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 15:50:37 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: What do I have?

Hello All,

Had a day off today so went to see about a Singer Treadle that I had heard a
lady was selling, but alas, by the time I got to her house, (it was well off
my beaten path and I got lost)  Anyway it was sold! Darn so I decided to hit
a few shops and I did find several SM's.  Way back in a corner under a chair
I found a black FW sitting on the floor.  It was so sad, when I picked it up
I saw why,,,it must have set in water or dampness for years.  The black
enamal was gone all the way around the base and starting on the edge of the
top.  Poor thing, but after checking the bobbin case I found it to be very
rusty, and the hand wheel didn't make a complete turn.  It did have an
Egyptian face plate and it was an AE, the price tag was $100.  If any one is
interested in a parts machine send e-mail and I will direct you to the spot.
 (Isn't that a bit high for the poor thing). I'm not to handy with the
mechanics so I didn't bring it home.

However in the same shop I did find a 3/4 black singer with a bentwood case
in very good condition.  It has a knee lever and runs.  I don't know if it
sews or not but will be working on it soon.  I don't know what model it is.
 It's number is AC which per Capt Dick should be about 1928.  It has a round
horizontally mounted bobbin but the stitch length is only a knob on the right
front with no markings, no reverse, Egyptian face plate, very pretty gold
flowery trim, belt driven, Singer silver color attachment light on rear.
 Anyway it did come home with me and I'm not even sorry for missing the
treadle.....3/4 heads were 28,128,99.  Anyone have any idea?  

Singer line has been busy, busy, busy

Thanks for any help

Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 16:49:15 -0700
Subject: Spotted

Hi All. Today I stopped by a Goodwill store and saw a delapidated
cabinet with a scrungy Pink SM called a Nelco (that's different). They
wanted $39.95. $3.95 would have fit better. Anyone know about a Nelco?
Subject: Bad FW Motor
Date: Thu, 23 Oct 97 17:01:49 -0500

After perusing all the FW sites through Gailee's Page, I have not been able
to find any help for a friend.  Hopefully one or more of you can assist us.

After several years of piecing quilts (no machine quilting -- just piecing)
the motor on this machine will still turn the belt but will no longer move
the needle up and down.  The repairman said it needs a new motor. Hmmmm.....
....What do YOU think?

If anyone has saved FW letters on this topic, knows a site on the Internet
that covers motor problems, or can give us any advice, I'd certainly
appreciate it.  

Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 18:53:24 -0700

Wow, I got a lot of questions regarding the blackside featherweight. I
refer to Nancy Johnson -Srebro's new Featherweight 221 book page 72.
I have the "early" model 221 Blackside. The FW has the scrollwork
faceplate but it is black not the normal silver.  Also the handle to 
lift the presser foot is black and the rectangular piece that has the
stitch lengths on it is all black.   Nancy has pictures and a short
description of the two types of "blackside" Fw's on that page.	

I took the machine completely apart and found the bobbin case position
finger was jammed up into the position plate and also put in wrong.
What a mess!  I tore it all apart, used kerosene in the oil holes,
ran the machine for a few minutes, re-oiled it and WOW!!!!! SHE RUNS
LIKE A CHARM!!!  After all that I then cleaned her up and she's a
fine looking machine.  You sure couldn't tell from all the dirt on her.

Who knows, maybe my next find will be a "freearm" or maybe a "tan"!!

KEEP HUNTING - they're out there!!

Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 08:44:25 -0400
Subject: Blowing off steam

Dear Fellow Collectors:
Sorry for the cross post to both digests, but I think this is important
enough to do so.  I try, if possible, not to do that as I don't like
repetitive info.

Several months ago when my husband and I set up our web site we were
carried away with it.  We wanted to "razzle dazzle" everyone with how
much "wonderful" stuff was on it.  (We still do want you to be thrilled
with it as well!)  I e-mailed a fellow machine collector and asked
permission to "borrow" some Singer emblems that appeared on their site. 
My answer was "no" and it was explained to me that the reasoning for
this is simple, that there would be no excitement or interest should we
all have the same things on our web pages.  Why even bother with the
links if we all have the same stuff?  This made me think, and now I
really agree with this philosophy and have abstained from "borrowing"
photos and animated GIF files from other sites.  There are sites for
"shareware" where one CAN take animated GIF files for private use for
free though, and we have taken full advantage of those.  These sites are
designed for that purpose.

DH has worked long and hard and created some really wonderful and
entertaining things, he spent HOURS on these getting them just right. 
Though these GIF files and the Singer emblems that appear on other's
sights are not "copywrighted" and are "fair game" to all, we would like
to be at least asked - it's actually a compliment if someone likes your
work so much that they want to display it.  DH has been asked to custom
design for a few people, and has done so, as he's such a "nice" guy.  

At any rate, this is just my two cents, forgive me for venting.  But I
do think that in the interest of why we have these sights - for giving
each other information and providing entertainment, it is more exciting
for each seperate sight to be INDIVIDUAL.  Now, I will get off my
soapbox - I love you all and sorry I just had to say my peace.
Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 17:46:11 -0400
Subject: this and that

Hi all!
I'm finally getting caught up after being way behind on my digests....
Can y'all stand one more remark on the great debate over yard sale
prices for FW's?  Well, I bought my White FW for $20.00 at a yard sale a
few months back, and I did think over telling the woman it was worth 
more and paying her more.  The Echols commentary on their paying more
than the lady asked, and being SO honest about it made me do some real
soul-searching.  I came to the conclusion that I KNOW in my heart that
had I re-sold the machine for profit, I would have gone back there and
given her more cash for it.  BUT, I am using it myself, and this woman
got exactly what she wanted for it.  She was delighted that I didn't try
to barter her down more on it.  One must recognize that in the hands of
a person who is not a quilter or a machine collector a FW is just "an
older sewing machine", and not even considered an antique.  So, I'm not
feeling so very bad about it.
But, the Echols are wonderful and high quiality people and I'm proud of
you guys!!!!  Good to be associated with such high caliber people!  What
is the saying, "you're a better man than I Gunga Din"...is this right?
Thanks for being an inspiration, maybe next time I'll be a better "man"
and make a higher offer!  I'm out there hunting whenever I can be! : )
Additionaly, to Barbara in Palestine TX:  My White FW is not mint green
or beige or tan - it's white.  Just so you know!
Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 15:30:03 -0700
Subject: "blacksides", etc....

Re: "blackside" machines;
  these are circa WWII machines where the faceplate and sometimes the
presserfoot is a blue/black oxide finish rather than the shiny silver
nickel/chrome plating.  The story goes that during the War, chrome and nickel
in short supply, so the faceplates (and parts of various attachments) were
finished with a chemical process which kept the parts from rusting. The oxide
is similar to the bluing which is used on gun barrels. I recently found one of
the needle threaders from this era which was black rather than the silver
finish normally seen.

bad news, good news; or "every cloud has a silver lining (but sometimes 		    
you do get rained on)".  A little off topic, but not by much.......  

Well, this has been a heck of a month.  I developed an infection in my right
knee and later the ankle (the one I treadle with- comes from learning to
treadle on a spinning wheel first).  The knee cleared up, but the ankle
infection has spread to the bone and isn't responding to antibiotics, so I've
been going to the Dr's several times a week. The Dr. has been sending me in
for various tests, and threatening that if we can't get it under control,
they'll have to put me in the hospital for "a couple of weeks/months" on I.V.
antibiotics.  After leaving the Dr's office, I've been so keyed up that the
idea of working on my thesis or any other research project has been
impossible.  The end result is that I've been hitting the antique and thrift
shops for some thereputic sewing machine hunting.  My recent finds include: A 201
(1950-ish), a 99 (1928-ish, lacking the kneebar, but I've got a line on one),
a "sperm sewing machine oil" bottle, the black needle threader (with extra
hooks and the instructions), A Boye wooden needle tube with needles for my
model 12.  I've been sewing accessories for work: a new "slat" sunbonnet on my
Jones CS (a chance to play with the attachments), and another on my Model 12
and a variety of petticoats and chemises.  The handcrank machines are really
getting a workout,since the treadling and/or footpedal strains my ankle.  Once
I get the kneebar for the 99 I can try her out. If I don't get this infection
cleared up, they may have to admit me to the hospital just to stop the
proliferation of sewing machines around the house!!!!

Subject: Elna Grasshopper
Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 22:06:19 -0700

I did it!  I bought an Elna #1, or Grasshopper from Walt Hunt at Wheeler's
in Santa Ana.  I was inspired by the information in the latest ISMAC's
magazine about the Grasshopper.  It is not cute like my little TX, but
certainly is distinctive and I like the way the case opens to make a sewing

Also received a treadle head from DD's secretary in S. Korea.  It is
similar to a Singer, but the decal says "Steel"  None of the parts say
Simanco either.  Does anyone have a clue as to the brand, or do I have
something unique to Korea?  It was used as a treadle, but the table and
treadle mechanism were discarded and an attempt was made to electrify the
machine.  It turns over easily so I plan to make it into a hand crank after
DH makes an oak base to display it in.  I am thrilled to have it since it
came from Korea.

Subject: German 201 Singer
Date: Fri, 24 Oct 1997 07:51:43 -0500

Good morning FWF friends,

I enjoy the digest very much and this is my first posting after being on
just a short time.  I am a quilter and enjoy sewing on my FW very much and
it does sews like a dream.

My husband bought a 201-2 (??) Singer machine in a nice cabinet at an
auction the other day and on the round gold medallion it says:

	Singer Nahmaschinen  (sewing machine)
	Fabrik Wittenberge      (factory Wittenberg)
	Schutzmarke              (protection stamp or brand)

The serial number is C3323792.  Have you ever heard of Singer machines
being made in Germany?  I called Singer to see if they had any information
and the only thing she could tell me is that Wittenberg, Germany, began
making machines January 1, 1908, but the company did not keep good records
so they have no information on the year this one was made.

There is a book (in English) with it and it says it is a 201-2, but there
are some minor differences.  Also, since it was made in Germany, I would
think the manual would be in German.

Does anyone have any information on them or seen one?

Date: Fri, 24 Oct 1997 09:26:51 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Rust removal from attachments

I am looking for any ideas on how to remove that light coating of rust from
attachments.  Can anybody help?
Subject: Kenmore
Date: Fri, 24 Oct 1997 10:38:57 -0400

I recently visited your homepage in an effort to find information on a
recent purchase I made.  I have a Kenmore sewing machine and sewing toble
that I found at a trift store.  It is an old AC/DC machine but I have no
idea how old it is or where to find more information about it.  Can you
help?   Very Respectfully--- Joe
Kenmore Sewing machine- Model 117-959  SN  143000
Kenmore Cabinet  --  Model  566 3063
Date: Fri, 24 Oct 1997 11:51:38 -0400

Have recently come across this lovely hand crank machine (portable) and know 
nothing about it.  Can anyone help me.  Would like to know age, value and 
scarcety.  According to the manual the machine was made in Kent, England.

Hope to hear from someone


Date: Fri, 24 Oct 1997 11:22:06 -0700
Subject: Domestic

To All:

I just returned from a garage sale, a way out in the boondocks, to see a
treddle machine.

It is a Domestic. It's in pretty good shape. The oak cabinet has six
drawers and the machine is on top of the cabinet with a simple but fancy
little finished oak box that covers the machine. "Domestic" is in gold
letters on the front of the box. The iron cabinet legs have "Donestic"
in the scroll grill work. The bobbin covers have a list of patent dates
stamped into the nickle plated slide covers. The dates range from 1863
to 1876. The bobins look like little torpedos. The machine appears to
work. It has a new belt. It is well maintained and oiled. They want
$165. for it. I passed on it, because I don't know anything about that
make. It looks like it belongs in a museum. What do you all think. Is it
rare, common, or unheard of, or....? Oh, yes, the serial number is
1014337 on the bobbin slide cover, and it is 1025--- on the metal uder
the bobbin slide. I can't remember the last three numbers of the second
number. I memorized the others. Is that a good buy? 
Subject: 99k manual
Date: Fri, 24 Oct 1997 14:31:26 -0500

Thanks to all who responed to my request of 99k manual!
Located one and hopefully it will arrive maybe this week.

Date: Fri, 24 Oct 1997 12:58:02 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: innovative musty smell tip

To Robert:

  The tip on removing the smell sounds great - I have several FWs that smell.
 Now, where do you find these chambers to change the oxygen level?!

Date: Fri, 24 Oct 1997 13:04:50 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Japanese Machine

Dear FWFs:

I was just called by an antique dealer about a small sewing machine.  The
manufacturer is Electro Hygiene and it was made in Japan.  It was used by a
quilter.  Could you please give me some information about it and if it's
worth buying.  Thank you so much for your help.

Date: Fri, 24 Oct 1997 10:56:25 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Unrealistic Reserves

Having been lurking on the list for several months and have finally decided
to give my two cents worth to anybody who cares.  Noticed on eBay this week a
FW for sale with an obviously unrealistic reserve on it.  Am amazed that
people bid on items that have a reserve.  My experience has been that if an
item has a reserve on it, it's most likely an unrealistic one and that
chances are the seller doesn't really want to sell the item.  These sellers
may just be looking for a free appraisal.  Further, if you feel you couldn't
part with your item for less than $500.00 (as an example), then start the
bidding there.  If buyers are willing to spend over $500.00 for the item they
will, if not, the prospective buyer can move on to something more in line
with what they are willing or able to spend.  FWs are available for purchase
directly from reputable people right here on FWFanatics as well as on the
ISMACS.  I just purchased a 1938 FW in 8.5 condition with accessories/manual
for $350.00 at a SM store in So CA.  Other members of my family have
purchased FWs that way too.  There are a few antique stores on the west coast
that carry FWs and tables for prices that don't pinch as well.  As I said,
just my two cents worth.  
Date: Fri, 24 Oct 1997 18:02:57 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Needing manuals...

Hello...I was talking to a lady I know online, and she said come to you fine
ladies (and gentlemen?) to see if any of you have some manuals I need. I have
3 garage sale refugees that are needing manuals. They are....

**Riccar -model RZ-208B

**Singer -model 293B

**Morse -model unknown, but it is really old only straight stitch
machine...can't find any numbers on it.

and I am also looking for a manual for a Brother KH-260 knitting
machine...another rummage sale refugee. I would love to make something with
it, but I can't even thread it...Any help would be appreciated...Thank you so
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 10/21/97
Date: Fri, 24 Oct 1997 22:45:30 +0100

To Dan re Speigel

This was not a manufacture in the true sense. I do not know the company but
the chances are that the machines were made for the retailer by one of the
large manufacturers.

Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 10/21/97
Date: Sat, 25 Oct 1997 00:00:43 +0100

To all re Maggie's Toy Machine sale

Maggie's page at http://www.personal.u-net.com/~ismacs2 contains her u-net
e-mail address. Unfortunately there are problems with this mail and any
responses should be sent to me  
Date: Fri, 24 Oct 1997 20:25:44 EDT
Subject: musings

There was a movie about 3 years ago called "The Rocketeer" about a comic book
character in the 30's who flew on a rocket.  The outfit and helmit he wore as
well as the rocket itself are similar in lines and color to the 500A.

Yes there are slant needle tuckers and they are still being stocked at my
local sewing machine repair shop I visit.  Ask some of the advertisers in the
FW for sale listing.  

Like you I love the 500 for its sturdy and dependability.  I would not quilt
on a FW as the motor is not really built for that much stress.  They will take
it but I would rather be safe than sorry.  For quilting class I use the 99.
Not as heavy as the 500 but strong.

Before you mess with the lower tension I would be sure of a few things:
1.  The needle is in the correct direction.
2.  Use a new SINGER needle.  They are a little different length.
3.  Use good thread, name brand, cotton poly not all poly.  If you put the
spool on the machine with the side down that has the slit on the spool it will
cause what you are describing.  (When I open a spool I rip the label off the
end that has the nick or slit so I know that if I see the label on the machine
my spool needs to be turned over.)
4.  Is the needle threaded from the correct side?
5.  Using your manual I would take the cover off the feed dogs and clean then
with a brush.  
6.  Remove the clamp holding the bobbin case and with a bright light look for
any thing that should not be there.  I have found part of a staple in one.
7. Is the bobbin case snapped in  the correct position.  Does it fall out
easy...not in.
8.  Is the bobbin wound on snug but not too tight or with a thread hanging
out.  Only one thread on the bobbin at a time.  Don't laugh Captain Dick found
15 different threads wound on one bobbin.
9.  Be sure the top tension is assembled correct.  See the manual especially
on the small spring.
10.  Using cotton square of fabric.  Fold in half so that a triangle is
formed.  Sew on the bias of the fabric (about 1/4 inch from the fold) with a
10-12 per inch stitch.  Take the fabric and hold it at each end of the  seam,
then with a quick jerk snap the thread.  If both sides break at the same spot
your tension is fine.  If not adjust the top to get it correct.  
NOTE:  Unless you know someone has "adjusted" the bobbin tension I would not
bother it.

The value of the machine is based on how much you want it and how bad the
dealer wants to sell it.  It was not worth it or you would have come home with
it.  The value of a machine is not set in stone.  Be nice if it were.  This is
like a used car.  There is a blue book value, the trade in value and then what
you could sell it for to another person.  There are a lot of machines out
there that were made by Singer.  Don't worry you will find another one and it
will be the one you waited on to buy.  

If you are buying as an investment....get bonds, stock or a saving account.
The values of the machines are not solid enough for you to consider them.  In
10 years the value you pay today may not go up!!  The tredles are not much
more than they were when gotten new,  the 128 is a lot less, so is the 99;
but, then there is the FW.  Sold for 159 (US) in the 50's and now......  

I just got the manual (original) for the puzzel box.  Send me your address.

If Pearl is giving you a work out check the tension of the belt.  I use mine a
lot and it does not wear me out. (I am very out of shape so I should be easy
to wear out)  Too loose and you must tredle more to get it to sew as a decent

The Epson is as close as you phone book.  Call a business supply that repairs
copiers.  If they cannot help you then if you are with AOL use the 800 yellow
pages to find the Epson number.  Books and other equipment should be

Blessed Be
Date: 24 Oct 1997 23:45:36 EDT
Subject: Kudos

Hi, All!  Just thought I'd let you all know what a nice person Millie M
is.  I posted a note about needing to know about needles for old
treadles, and she not only gave me good advice, but she also sent along
a package of needles in the original wrap.  What a nice surprise!  Have
been keeping busy looking for old machines, and a few have gotten away,
but DH thinks I've found more than my share lately.  I really am going
to have to get serious about cleaning out the garage....It seems to be
filling up with old Singers, Whites, New Homes.......On and on.  Can't
seem to find any portables.  Tomorrow I'm going to try to go to an
auction where there is a portable elna.  Hope it's a grasshopper, but
didn't check with the auctioneer.  Never seem to think about it early
enough so we don't have to go check them out.  Well, Ya'll take care.
Date: Sat, 25 Oct 1997 11:59:42 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: red-eyes

where can I find a good picture of a red-eye?
thanks, Linda
Date: Sat, 25 Oct 1997 01:57:35 -0500
Subject: Singer model 319W

I allowed a Singer 319W (in blond cabinet) to follow me home today.  It was
so homely (in a two-toned green, '50s sort of way) that I figured I was the
only one around here who could appreciate its ugliness (in a pretty kind of
way).  And the price was right.

This machine has a  five built-in zigzag stitches.  It is a low shank,
threading from the front.  It will take optional cams.  I think this deal
is a full rotary, and it's got the weirdest bobbins I've seen for a Singer.  

This is something that bugs me:  somewhere on the 'net in the last few days
I have read about someone who had a Singer machine that had a
throatplate/slideplate all in one--such that when you got ready to do
anything to the bobbin, you had to lift the head of the machine.  I read
this,  but I don't remember where.  Was it here?  This fits my the
description of my new machine.

Has anyone else heard of my (hopefully soon to be beloved) 319W?

Date: Sat, 25 Oct 1997 14:40:20 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Minnesota Treadle Sewing Machine

I was wondering if anyone could give me info on a Minnesota Treadle Sewing
Machine.  I do not know when it was built, or who the manufacturer is.  I
would like to locate a manual for this machine because I do not know how to
load the bobbin into the case.   And I am not sure how to thread, wind the
bobbin, or insert the case into the machine. The case is a long slender case,
sort of looks like a bullet;  bobbin is long.  I looked on the throat plate
and there is a number: D1415537 and it is either Model D, B, or E.  I cannot
tell.  The wording is worn a little.    If anyone could help me, I would
appreciate it.  

I also have a Belaire 990, I believe is the Model #.  I would like to locate
a manual for this machine as well.  It is in really great shape.  I would
like to know who manufactured it also.  

Subject: Photo of FW
Date: Sat, 25 Oct 1997 15:19:22 -0400

I bought the November issue of Quilter's Newsletter Magazine and did not
see a photo of a FW.  Did I buy the wrong magazine or just the wrong issue?
 Anyway, it's a very interesting magazine and I'm enjoying it.  By the way,
I'm not a quilter, just a wannabe.  Would someone please tell me what a Fat
Quarter is???

Date: Sat, 25 Oct 1997 13:07:04 -0400

Hello Everyone...

For  Cheryl, re: Bakelite & corrosion. Actually, the white powdery stuff thats 
growing  under  the  enamel  of  your  machine  is  Aluminum  Oxide and is the 
reaction  of  moisture  on  the  aluminum  due to a fault in your paint (micro 
pores). This is fairly serious, as there is no cure once it gets started. The
paint  will  flake  off and expose bare metal. You can slow it down with clear 
nail  polish, but this doesn't really look very good. The ultimate solution is 
to  strip  it  down  to  bare  metal  and re-paint it. Now that decal sets are 
available  (from  Bob  Bannan  and others) you can get it fairly close to
original in looks...

For  Lydia,  re: Blackside or Blackface FW... PMFJI, but I have one. They were 
made  in  1941  and  have  black faceplates (scrolled). Mine has several black 
attachments, a black hand wheel, but an aluminum bobbin winder...

For  All,  re:  White vs Green vs Turquose (?) FWs... I may have the answer to 
this  controversy.  A  friend of mine, who works as an engineer for GM's paint 
division,  recently  refinished a WHITE featherweight. This machine DID have a 
greenish  cast  to  it.  He  found that a yellowish tan primer was used on his 
machine  when  first  painted.  His comment was WHY??? Apparently, pigments go 
through  a  subtractive  process as paint ages, and his contention is that the 
yellow/tan   primer  is  coming  through  the  white,  but  the  primer  color 
'subtracts'  itself  from  the  white  AND  THE WHITE TURNS GREEN. This is why 
automobiles  are  painted  with  GRAY  primer!!! He's painted his machine with 
gray  primer  with white epoxy enamel and he'll report back in thirty years to 
let us know if there are any significant color changes...

For  Joy  ,  re:  uneven stitching... I'd say that 90% of the FWs that I 
service  need  a  new Bobbin Case Spring. Over the years the space between the 
tiny  'toes'  that the thread passes between wears a tiny groove in the metal. 
The  bobbin  thread  apparently  'hitches'  in  this  groove.  This problem is 
(favorite  word  here)  exacerbated by careless stitches who remove the bobbin 
thread  out  of  the case by ripping it out backwards. This action deforms the 
spring's  curvature  and it's difficult to set up a consistent tension... This 
is a simple $5 fix...

Subject: My trip to Woodbridge, NJ
Date: Sat, 25 Oct 1997 15:21:11 -0800

Next month I am going to Woodbridge, NJ on business.  Does anyone have any
suggestions on where to go to look for FW's, FW accessories or quilting
fabric?  Up here in Alaska, there are not too many antique stores or flea
markets where you can go and pick up a FW or any of its accessories. 

I look forward each day for my FW Fanatic email.  Thanks Sue for all your
hard work on putting together and maintaining such a wonderful digest!
Date: Sat, 25 Oct 1997 21:18:01 +1000
Subject: Toy Singer 

Went to a trash and treasure today and picked up a toy Singer Touch and Sew
 1966  complete  with adaptor not that that will do me much good due to the
fact its for American power . However I just couldn't resist it due to the
fact its complete with little shuttle,  instruction book and cover .
Date: Sat, 25 Oct 1997 17:22:27 -0700
Subject:  dampness and machines

Actually, the machines should come to me. You live in the City, not the
Desert. I live in the real Desert. (G)

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