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Digest of postings from Saturday, October 23, 2004 

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Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2004 23:16:38 -0400
Subject: RE: thread cutter
From: catdanccer 

Hi all,
Graham said he had never met anyone who actually uses the thread cutters.
I'm hoping I'm not the only one who does???? I never used the one on the
ancient Singer I grew up with because it was too dull.  Then, about 10 years
ago, I bought a Bernina (Is it okay to use the b-word?) and it has a very
nice thread cutter that I use all the time.
Last spring, I bought two Featherweights and quickly learned the thread
cutters were dull.  This would not do!  I was totally used to using the
build in cutter on the Bernina so I ordered new ones from 221 parts dot com
and put them on. 
Admittedly they are in a slightly awkward position but I do use them.
Does anyone else?  I can't believe I'm the only one!
Karen in Michigan 

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Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2004 22:54:18 -0400
From: Betty Murphy 
Subject: my mistake to Barb

First thing,
Must have had a moments brain lock when I answered Barb's question about 
the chatter in her FW. I said that she could rotate the spring counter 
clock wise....this is wrong.... its clock wise one notch and see.

Second,
Wondering what model is everyones favorite FW?
Mine is the late 30's with the scroll face plate and chrome hand wheel. My 
wife likes the Centennials and a 222 she just got.


Featherweight sales, service, and repairs
Monty and Betty Murphy
Woodstock, Ga.
770-926-9189

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From: "Janice Brady" 
Subject: Thread Cutter
Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2004 20:21:01 -0500

Hello everyone,
Graham said   "Never met anyone who actually uses it....."   regarding
thread cutters.  I use the thread cutter on all of my machines and feel
handicapped using my one machine without the cutter.  I'm frustrated that
they become dull from too much cutting.   This subject could develop into a
survey.

Ditto to Cindy Garcia encouraging everyone to vote.
Cheers,
Janice
Deep in the Heart of Texas

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From: "rosella" 
Subject: class
Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2004 20:07:08 -0400

Hi All....just completed a class with Tony, Glenn and Graham......it was 
very informative and those guys sure made it fun....Wynona,my FW, won 
the prise for the machine in the worse condition....poor Wynona.....but 
she runs like a dream......tks guys for a fun day.....rosella

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From: MelGIllette@cs.com
Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2004 19:24:07 EDT
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 10/20/2004 - Singer cams/discs

I have the sort for the 328 that were mentioned on list and probably dupes 
for the 500 the other gentleman was talking about.  I need to do some sorting.  
If anyone is still looking, you can email me and let me know which ones you 
are looking for.  I believe a few other specific feet were mentioned.  I can 
check.

Mel

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From: MelGIllette@cs.com
Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2004 19:29:05 EDT
Subject: Sock Knitting

In a message dated 10/23/04 1:28:01 PM, FWFanatics@ttsw.com writes:

<<  i kept them and gave away brand new,
never been used socks.  what a wonderful memory of both my grandmother and
my dad!  it's nice to have the list back to 'normal.'

dutchrose >>

I would love to hear more on this, though granted it si off topic here.  I 
have taken to knitting more again the last year or two.  I frequently do 
facecloths and booties but have toyed with the thoughts of doing socks.  What little 
I have researched it seems there are two needle patterns and circular needle 
patterns?  Would love to hear some more on this from experienced "sock" 
knitters and maybe get some tried and true links or personal input...  I started 
knitting at nine or ten....  and the biggest things/hardest things I have ever 
knitted are :) baby blankets.  :)

Mel

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 Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2004 23:21:44 +0100
 From: Graham Forsdyke 
 Subject: Re: Featherweight Fanatics Thursday, October 21, 2004
 
 Jenn said:
 >
 >
 >Hello everyone,  I purchased a 222 from a very
 >reputable seller....... I was disappointed to find
 >that it is a refurbished machine.  The removable
 bed has all new paint and
 >decals, the decals ...... The decal for "made in
 Great Brittain" was
 >placed on crooked and is so smeared you can't tell
 what it says.
 >.
 >Am I  just being picky?  Or should I be thrilled
 with the machine as 
 >it is.  It
 >does sew very well.
 
 
 
 I hate these type of mails which lead everyone to
 wonder who the 
 un-name  "reputable" seller is....and fear that it
 is the same one 
 they have ordered a machine from.
 
 For the record, I'm not the seller and I would 
 never deal in 
 repainted or re-decaled machines..
 
 I'll not comment on whether you should be thrilled
 or not.....
 
 
 Jim said:
 
 >Graham and I are on the same page, but I didnt
 explain
 >well enought
 >what
 >I meant by having a test fabric under the pressure
 >foot.
 >What I meant was that prior to shipping, insist
 that
 >the seller test
 >the
 >machine and leave it under the pressure foot, not
 on
 >his pictures.
 
 
 Gotcha --- makes a lot of sense.  I also keep a test
 swatch for every 
 machine in case there are any queries
 
 
 Linda wrote
 >
 >
 >I also am on the lookout for a Mexican-built FW as
 >there was a factory
 >in Queretaro, north of Mexico City, in the late
 50s.
 >An antique dealer
 >has found several in the past, he reports.
 
 Sorry, no. All Featherweights were made in the UK
 and the USA apart 
 from a few tan ones in Canada.  Your dealer is
 confused over Mexican 
 dealer decals.
 
 >
 >Should I post the name and ID of a crook on eBay
 who
 >advertised a 1957
 >machine in perfect working order then shipped a
 beat
 >up 1938 model in a
 >cracked case? She had fictitious telephone number,
 >recently changed ID. Fortunately, I paid for the
 machine
 >with a credit
 >card
 >and it's now being investigated by my card company.
 . Is there a 
 >formal black list?
 
 I'd say yes every time to naming and shaming ---(
 see above) but I 
 think this should be a policy decision by Eric/Sue
 
 
 
 To Claudia  who wrote
 
 >
 >Poor Graham, I can only imagine he is banging his
 head
 >against a
 >dilapidated featherweight carrying case wondering
 how
 >we ever won the
 >revolution!
 
 Revolution ????--ah you mean the first Civil War
 
 >  A chocolate teapot would be rather like a
 >"screen door on
 >a
 submarine"
 
 That's even better. --- I'll borrow it....
 
 
 
 >Graham Forsdyke
 >Purveyor of fine Featherweights to the gentry
 >ISMACS London
 >http://www.ismacs.net
 >
 >http://www.singer-featherweight.com
 >
 >Bert's Vintage Repair Book Book: 
 >http://www.singer-featherweight.com/bert/bert.html
 >
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From: Rozgram1@aol.com
Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2004 18:43:17 EDT
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 10/21/2004

Re: Jenn Devine's 222FW that she purchased from an ebay seller:  It is 
obvious from your post, Jenn, that you are sorely disappointed in the machine.  
Remember that it is not the last 222 on earth....somewhere out there is one that 
will make you happier.  Since the seller said you could return it, DO return 
it.  You will be out some $$$, no doubt (shipping etc) but you will also not 
have a machine that makes you feel bad each time you look at it.  Just my 
opinion....let us know what you decide. 
I am away from home and grabbed one of my little-used FW's to take with 
me...it is destined for my granddaughter, someday, and since she is only four 
months old I'm sure she won't mind.  It is always fun to oil and lube these 
seldom-used machines and then hear them purr.   Roz in Virginia.     

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Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2004 15:54:33 -0400
From: Linda Winkens 
Subject: Vintagesingers group

From: "Gerald" 
Subject: Vintagesingers
Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2004 06:17:25 -0500

Jo Ann, had this to say,
I was a member of Vintage singers and quit posting because the moderator
humiliated and embarrassed me. 

I too have had a problem with the moderator on that list.
I figure by now that you all know that I have an on-line business which is 
sewing machine related.  I used to reply privately to people, who post to 
the groups, that I have what they are looking for.  As far as I know it is 
only one time that I screwed up & posted to the that list, that I had what 
they needed.
I was chastised publicly on the list for selling, he said that I was mining 
the list for my own profit, etc.  I was also threatened to be removed from 
the list if my posts were more numerous for selling, than my posts are 
which are general contributions contributing to the welfare of the 
group.  I imagine my posts are still in the archives of the group and you 
should find his response there too.

That is why I do not post to any of the groups on sale days & remind people 
what my web site exists.   Once shot, twice shy!
All I now do is sign my name as follows when I post.

Linda at Relics
www.sewing-machine-manuals.com 

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Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2004 15:00:43 -0700 (PDT)
From: M Hemme 
Subject: FW case odor

Joy posted:
From: Joyzquilter@aol.com
Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2004 10:30:49 EDT
Subject: Posting

Hello feathers out there.  I wrote awhile back about
the odor of a  
machine/case I purchased and gots lots of suggestions
for getting rid 
of the 
ode  de 
featherweight.  Tried them all.  Really, ALL of them
(on the  machine 
and case 
separately), to no avail.  Please no more suggestions,
 nothing works 
on this 
one!  My question now is this...what do I do with a 
machine and case 
that is 
in great condition but smells bad.  I don't want  to
keep them 'cause 
they have 
to stay outside.  I don't want to offer them  on eBay
and disappoint 
someone. 
 But, I would like to get my money back, or  at least
most of it.  Any 
offers?  I am not up to stripping the  material off
the case myself.  
Thanks 
for 
your help.  I love this  site!
Joy in Rainy Arizona (today)

Hi Joy, I'm certainly no FW expert, but have tried all
suggested methods of eliminating case odor as well. 
I've had to keep many cases out of my house for this
reason.
I've baked several cases after cleaning them with Tuff
Stuff then rinsing and drying before baking them in
the oven.  The odor was gone and did not return. This
process,however, made the case and fabric very dry and
increased the size of the case. My baked cases no
longer fit well into the tote bags I use to transport
my Featherweights. It is wonderful to have the cases
odor free though.
My mother used to spray lemon juice on mildew/mold
stains and place the item in the sun. It was amazing
how the stains disappeared.  I tried using this
process last month with several Featherweight cases
and it removed the odor. I sprayed the cases inside
and out until they were quite drenched then wiped the
excess lemon juice with a lint free cloth before
placing them in the sun. I will have to wait to see if
the odor returns. I hope this helps.
Mar

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From: Debette@aol.com
Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2004 17:31:33 EDT
Subject: Test sewing

In a message dated 10/23/04 10:29:34 AM, FWFanatics@ttsw.com writes:


 What I meant was that prior to shipping, insist that the seller test the
 machine and leave it under the pressure foot, not on his pictures.
 

Yes, Jim - with the thread still attached through the machine, so there's no 
question whether it was sewn on that machine or another. Right?

Deb

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From: Debette@aol.com
Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2004 17:30:27 EDT
Subject: Jenn's poorly refurbished 222

Jenn - YES. Yes, you should be VERY disappointed, and yes, you should RETURN 
it - now, post haste, don't look back, and don't apologize!

I paid $1200 a couple of years ago for a 222 which is in pristine and 
original condition. The market is not as high now, so you should pay less. BUT you 
also got a repainted (no longer original AND they didn't tell you) machine with 
bad decals - not even worth that much. I'd pay maybe 3-400 for that (it is a 
222, after all).

Ask for a lot of your money back.

Deb

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From: "Gerald" 
Subject: Bad ebay person
Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2004 15:43:12 -0500

Linda had this to say,

Should I post the name and ID of a crook on eBay who advertised a 1957
machine in perfect working order then shipped a beat up 1938 model in a
cracked case? She had fictitious telephone number, recently changed ID.

Linda, I would like to have this person ebay selling name, for my personal
black list of bad ebay sellers. I keep the list just above my computer so 
it's right there for me to see.
Email me privately don't want to upset the folks that don't think this is 
right.

I know of one more FWF that has a list like mine and I will send her this 
person name also.
I know some folks are against this, but we all know the feed back system is 
a joke, but when enough
folks start having a list and using it, it will make a different's.

The painter of Featherweights in a Rainbow of Colors
http://home.cablelynx.com/~rambo2/Colors/index.htm
In Hot Springs, R-CAN-SAW 

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Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2004 14:25:16 -0500
From: Loetta 
Subject: featherweight mailing list

I have purchased a featherweight 221 at a yard sale. It looks and sounds to be in good motor
condition however it keeps on coming unthreaded can you help me with this matter and i am
interested in attachments and the manuels for it. please subscribe me to the newsletter. thank you
    Loetta plvire@direcway.com

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Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2004 12:11:01 -0700
From: James Sorrell 
Subject: Hello

Hello All
Carole Lienau asked about the light green 15 she had seen. Basically it 
is nothing but a 15-91 that Singer decided to paint another color. There 
werent many of them painted that color but they are just as good in 
every way as the tried and tested 15 series in black.
Hope this helps
Jim Sorrell
Chico, Ca.

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From: "Gerald" 
Subject: List folks
Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2004 15:26:54 -0500

Ardith had this to say,

This is interesting because if I'm looking at a machine on line and there is
that test piece, my first thought is *what is it hiding*? Now if someone I
*know* lists a machine with the test cloth, I wouldn't think twice. My very
favorite way to buy a machine is from one of *usins*. I bought one e-bay
machine before I knew to be careful. The *near perfect* isn't. I have bought
machines for some on this board and have *never* been led astray or
disappointed. Not only machines, but repairs and parts. Just my never to be
humble opinion.

Ardith, did you read what happen to Jenn, she bought from some one on the 
list.
I hope she gets a full refound from who ever it was she bought the 222 from.

The painter of Featherweights in a Rainbow of Colors
http://home.cablelynx.com/~rambo2/Colors/index.htm
In Hot Springs, R-CAN-SAW 

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From: "Gerald" 
Subject: Bad 222
Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2004 15:21:53 -0500

Jenn, had this to say.
The removable bed has all new paint and decals, the decals were
applied in a sloppy manner and you can see the edges of the decals quite
easily,
the edges are not supposed to be showing.  The gold filigree type decoration
that is usually on the vertical arm, facing the needle bar, was not even
applied.  The decal for "made in Great Britain" was placed on crooked and is
so
smeared you can't tell what it says.

Did he tell you up front it had been refurbished ? If not I would say you 
have every right to a full refund.

I hate to hear that some one out there isn't or doesn't know how to repaint 
and apply the decals properly.
My newest decals that I was selling, if apply right is very easy to hide the 
edges. If he used my decals
he most not have read the instruction sheet on how to apply them, that is if 
he used mine.

I've been working on some corrections on my decals, yes there was some 
mistakes, and when you start
correcting the mistakes pixel by pixel it takes a long time, many, many 
hours of sitting at the computer.
When finished this time they will be better then ever.

The painter of Featherweights in a Rainbow of Colors
http://home.cablelynx.com/~rambo2/Colors/index.htm
In Hot Springs, R-CAN-SAW 

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From: Barbnlamont@aol.com
Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2004 14:27:37 EDT
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 10/21/2004

In a message dated 10/23/2004 10:43:58 AM Pacific Standard Time, 
FWFanatics@ttsw.com writes:
"After I read Robert Hamilton's assessment of white (celery) FWs "
I have a white/green FW and I agree with Robert H. that this machine is 
inferior to the black ones, of which I have two (one doesn't sew: needs new 
bobbinworks, an ebay "gamble").  But I still love this machine; it sews nicely, and 
is a conversation piece when I take it somewhere.  Can't offer an opinion on 
the tan ones, Mary.  I don't have one.....yet.  Barb in Aberdeen, WA

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From: "jaydub" 
Subject: fw tote bag?
Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2004 12:44:28 -0500

Hi Feathers,
Look what somebody on the E-site is selling for our featherweights.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=41248&item=6126523610&rd=1

Sharon W. in Texas 

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From: Barbnlamont@aol.com
Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2004 14:34:04 EDT
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 10/21/2004

How many of you out there belong to the Vintage singer list ?  I do, but I 
hardly ever go there, and if the moderator is rude, I think I'll just "UNjoin"!  
I see nothing wrong with the question that was posted there.  Barb in 
Aberdeen, WA

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Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2004 07:56:10 -0700
Subject: FW case latch needed
From: Robert Bond 

I need a latch for my sister's fw case.
Just one latch, but will buy set if needed.
Vintage preferred but repro acceptable.
As I am only replacing one, the replacement needs to look the same, or at
least really close and work with the lock.

Thank you for any help
Robert Bond
It's very humbling when the voices in your head are talking to somebody
else.
To understand the ultimate answer to life, you must first know the
question.
Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati
Always in motion, the future is.

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Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2004 14:35:15 +0000
Subject: singer machine no 201 K
From: aotg31@dsl.pipex.com

Dear Sir \ Madam
I have dug out a sowing machine from a great great aunt, she is aged 100 
years old this year;  the machine is a  Singer no EF76694 which stupidly 
has been stored in a damp cellar. It is in its hard box though . There 
are various bits and pieces including the instructions ,mat oil can etc 
which tell me it is a No 201K. Can you tell me something about it and 
are there people interested who might be collectors as i would like it 
to go to a good home. Do you have any idea of its collectable value?
regards
Sally Dean

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Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2004 21:35:05 -0400
From: Terry Wright 
Subject: FW class

I'm going to the FW class in Franklin too - I go on Sat.   Brenda, which 
day do you go? Hope to see you ... GAquiltR (Terry)


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