Featherweight Fanatics Archives

May 1996

Sunday, May 19th - Saturday, May 25th

Date: Sun, 19 May 1996 00:01:31 -0400
Subject: Reasons to live in So. Cal.

1. No bugs
2. No tornados
3. No hurricanes
4. No shoveling (of anything)
5. No rain [ :( ]
6. Finding a FW after it was advertised in the paper 3 days ago!
New FW is an AJ (hopefully my friend's BD, we'll know on Monday) found in LA
(only 5 miles from home) at decent price. Case not great, no accessories
except the famous lubricant tube, scratches show use but the gold is perfect
and it has the centennial medallion. I was so excited I talked for 13 minutes
on my car phone even after I was in the house! After I calmed down and put a
needle in it, and adjusted the tension, it sews like a champ. The presser bar
lifter is broken but I have a replacement. Anyone know how to get the old one
off? I unscrewed the face plate but don't see easy access. My local FW guru,
Fred, probably does, but I'd like to do it myself, if possible.
PS Thanks for the treadle belt info. I haven't gotten it yet, but it's on my
Date: Sat, 18 May 1996 21:22:47 -0800

I was out shopping today at some antique stores in Oroville and I 
came across a machine I could not go home without.  It is a White 
model #619 it's a baby blue in color and has a scroll plate like the 
singers, I paid $55.00 for it including a nice cabinet. I was 
wondering if anyone knew anything about this machine.  I have no 
manual for it but I'm going to call White on Monday to see if I can 
get one. If f anyone knows anything about this machine please e-mail 
me lscott@sunset.net  Thank you for your help.
Date: Sun, 19 May 1996 08:41:21 GMT
Subject: Want to buy

Hi FWF, I've been around for along time, reading what everybody writes and
enjoy every minute of it. 
I don't post very often, but really enjoy reading what everybody else has to
I own two featherweight's who have become Fred and Ethel, I just finished a
Bargello Heart quilt top on Ethel, she's my pride and joy, even if she is a
bit older that Fred, she still purrs like a kitten. I also just aquired a
model 99 in the wooden dome case, by accident at a yard sale. It doesn't
have a name yet and I haven't used it hardly at all.
I am looking for a white, tan or beige featherweight at a reasonable price
that I can afford to add to my collection. I believe these were made between
1940 and 1970. If anyone out there has one they would like to sell you can
email me at pnotions@cybergate.com or give me a call at (209) 271-1965. I'm
really anxious to find one.
I'm also looking for manual's or copies of manual's for my three machines,
if anyone has one that would be willing to share I would be happy to pay for
the copies or purchase the extra if you have it.
Well I hope everybody has a great day tomorrow and finds lots of good buys
on all those great little featherweights, especially since I have never run
across any of the deals I keep reading about.

Pat P
Date: 19 May 96 05:14:34 EDT
Subject: Contribution 15

True story no 15 (second try)

Regular readers here will know that I have a particular hate for those
collectors who claim to have museums and have nothing of the kind. The ploy of
course is to get you to part with something they want at much less than the
market price because you think it is going to be displayed for posterity.

Last month I had a rare chance to get my own back on one of these charlatans 
was able to use the ISMACS convention to do so.

Advertisements had started appearing in collecting magazines offering a good
home in a sewing-machine museum for any pre 1870 machines. These machines could
be donated or, in exceptional cases, the museum would provide postage expenses.

Having checked that this was indeed a dealer with no museum other than the top
shelf in his shop, we put the plan into action.

I wrote to the museum telling the owner about the ISMACS convention and the 170
collectors from all around the world that would be converging on London. I also
told him that we would be hiring four coaches to bring the entire party to 
the museum on a given day
Panic must have set in for he rang the next day, attempted to brazen it out by
saying that decorating work was to start on the very day I had proposed.
Otherwise we would have been most welcome.
How lucky, I replied, we've had to bring the convention forward a week. I then
asked whether the museum car park could take the four coaches and whether the
establishment had a full restaurant or only a snack bar.
I added that I was going to contact the local newspaper and TV as media 
of such an international group would be valuable publicity for his museum.
The phone went quiet and I imagined him  pondering on the thought of 170
visitors in his 20 by 20-foot shop, four coaches, press and TV cameras and
hungry collectors demanding to know where the restaurant was.
Minutes went by and then he collapsed completely. Told me he had to invent the
museum because business was bad. Told me about his wife and three children. 
me the tax man was on his back. Told me he was sorry and would never do it
again. And he hasn't -- so far.

Beware "museum" owners, the ISMACS convention group could visit you.....

Graham F
Date: 19 May 96 05:14:51 EDT
Subject: Contribution

To Terri re Franklin

Franklin brand machines were made by both the White and National sm companies
during the first quarter of this century. There was a Franklin company but it
operated only for the few months in 1871.

Graham F
Date: Sun, 19 May 1996 05:55:42 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Pfaff and Minnesota

I had a great sewing machine day yesterday! In the morning, after going to
hundreds (actually about 20, but it felt like hundreds) of yard sales and
finding absolutely nothing interesting, I stopped at just one more and one
the floor of their garage, saw a suitcase that was a little wider on the
bottom than the top. When I opened it up, I discovered a Pfaff sewing
machine! Didn't really check it out much just asked the price and when they
said $5, I ran out with it - actually, the nice husband running the sale
carried it out to my car for me. When I got it home, I checked it out and
it's a model 360 made from 1960-1969 according to the Blue book and it has
just everything with it - manual, attachments, extension table for the free
arm bed, even a little plastic dial that tells you how to set the levers for
different stitches. I haven't even tried it out yet, but it looks to be in
great shape and since it's made in Germany, I have high hopes for it - I'm
really getting into these foreign machines lately - first a Necchi, now a
Pfaff. I'm very pleased with it so far! Then last night I went to the
auction that advertised a "sewing machine case". I looked all over during
the preview, but didn't see anything that would fit that description, so I
asked the auctioneer and he told me where to look. Turned out to be a
rectangular shaped oak cabinet, all enclosed, but when you opened the front,
there was a sewing machine inside with a treadle base. I lifted the top up
and saw it was a Minnesota long shuttle and looked to be in pretty good
shape. I waited patiently (or rather, not so patiently) during the bidding
and they finally got to my machine. I was the only one interested, so got it
for $10! When I got it home, I checked it out, and it has its manual,
attachments, even a warranty dated April 25, 1910! I haven't tried it out
yet either, but everything looks good, even the treadle belt! I discovered
it's in Sincere's book on page 175, figure 158. I know I didn't want another
treadle, and it's not even a Singer, but I'd never seen one like this and to
find one in such good condition with all its part was too good to pass up!
I've gotten so many Singers that I have to expand my horizons rather than
duplicate machines, but there are alot of wonderful other machines out
there, too! Sue M.
Date: Sun, 19 May 1996 09:33:46 -0400 (EDT)

Hi All!

I have to type fast today -- I'm supposed to be on a plane to New Jersey
at 2pm.

Went to the Scott Antique Mall yesterday, and I am now the proud owner of
one of the Boye needle/shuttle dispenser cases.  the thing is a wealth of
information about shuttle and needle types -- I had no idea there were so
many different types of needles!  I also got four shuttles, one of which
fits my Singer and three of which don't.  When I get back later this week,
I'll let you know which machines these shuttles do fit.

I regret to inform several of you that the tan FW has been sold.  The
dealer had a note from the woman to whom she had sold one of her black FWs
last month, and she got the note before she got the information from me. 
Unfortunately (for us) this woman showed up yesterday and made the
purchase.  However, the dealer has everyone's name, and I've sent her the
dating information I've extracted from the list, and also my list of
sources for parts (Mike Hayes -- you have the inside track since we're all
in Ohio.  If you are contacted by a rather short, somewhat elderly-ish
white-haired lady named Freddie who needs a new FW bobbin case because the
old one has the position finger broken off, please be VERY NICE to this
woman!!) and I'll see her again in the fall.  She also may have access to
a number of small oval oil cans.  (She has one of her own, but she never
realized it fits inside the clamp in the FW case). The next one she finds
is for me, but I told her if her late great aunt happened to leave several
I know where she can sell them.

Other stuff of note:

One featherweight at the show.  I didn't see it (why do I always start at
the WRONG end of the building??)  Selling price reported at $375.00

Available: One Minnesota Model A treadle in good condition in good oak
cabinet, with original book and attachments.  Asking price $100.00.

Available: Two Singer Sewhandys (in the absolutely ugliest orange cases). 
One definitely works, the other she hasn't checked out yet.  Asking price:
$70.00 each.

Also saw: a younger (and of course, better looking) sibling to my Model
127.  Smaller, less elaborate 4-drawer cabinet). Mechanicals working fine
(but this machine also has the famous "hiccup" in the needle).  Asking
price: $85.00 but definitely negotiable.  Bad news is I forgot to get her
card, mainly because I don't need the machine.  But she was happy I could
identify the model and date it for her.

For the two "available" items above, e-mail me privately AFTER THURSDAY if
you want dealer names and phone numbers.  No financial interest here, just
trying to get the machines into good homes.

At a house sale Saturday am (I actually DID get up early and stood in line
for 10-20 minutes waiting for the place to open up): One touch and sew,
which I ignored.  One "Princess" treadle with original book and
attachments, selling price $85.00, sold within the first hour.  One
electric Singer, Model 66-something, selling price $85.00.  One small old
Singer machine, model uncertain, treadle, very small table (one drawer,
left side).  Machine cover is a box which locks down on top of the
machine.  Selling price: $135.00.  If I hadn't spent my money on the
shuttle/needle case I was thinking about this one.

To Becky: I would think that any walking foot or darning foot for the
singer slant series would fit your machine, and that your local Singer
dealer should be able to supply both of these.  Sorry I don't have time to
verify any of this in my Clotilde catalog this am.

To Susan M :  If you are desparate about the 66-16, I think I still
have the name of the folks who sponsored the house sale.  I can try to
find out A) the exact model number of this machine and b) whether it
actually sold yesterday and c) if it didn't, what happened to it.  Also,
the dealer from whom I bought the shuttle/needle case had a small green
Elna.  I didn't pay much attention to it, but I believe I have his phone
number.  E-mail me privately AFTER THURSDAY (23rd) if any of this
interests you.

To Kathy (I think): Try loosening the top tension on your 128.  I think
the button holes are normally supposed to be smooth satin stitch, unless
you expressly want the ridge you're talking about.  Sounds like the thread
may be breaking because the top thread is indeed too tight.  What
functions as a "balanced" tension for ordinary straight sewing (where the
fabric moves only forward over the feed dogs) may not work right for the
zig-zag motion where the fabric is in fact moving both slightly forward
and definitely sideways at the same time.

That's all for today.  "See" you all Thursday when I'm back in town. I'm
wondering which will take longer: catching up on four days of this Digest
or filling out my voucher for this trip.  I already know which one will be
more fun!

Date: Thu, 16 May 1996 15:11:04 GMT
Subject: connections

Today I have a question. Is anyone out there having as much trouble with
their servers as I have the last couple of weeks? I'm lucky to connect at
all, no less get my fwfix for the day! 
to Millie 
          Welcome home! 
To all 
   Congrats. to all the new machines making their way into your homes.I
think what we are doing has a greater purpose than we even understand right
now. I think down the road we're all in for a nice suprise, although I
think maybe our children will be the beneficiaries of our quests.You know
the old saying: What goes around must come back! 
Date: 19 May 96 13:40:53 EDT
Subject: Various

Hi All...

For  Marlen:  We  sell both the original Singer Featherweight belt for $5.75 
or  an  "improved" lugged belt for $3.50. The improved belt is more flexible 
and  lighter  than  the  Singer, so you machine will sew better. If you just 
want  to  "look" at your FW, buy the Singer belt... I'm email-ing you our FW 
price list under separate cover.

To  all:  Yesterday's  post  about selling the FW contained a small error. I 
mentioned  that  I  replaced  the  'bed  feet'  when  I  meant  to  say 'bed 
cushions'.  These are the little rubber doughnuts at each corner of the base 
of the FW - you know, the ones that turn into globs of silly putty.

For  Kim: Sorry to hear about burning out your motors after returning to the 
states...  It's  unlikely  that the step down transformer did damage to your 
motors  or pre-conditioned them for failure when you got back to the states, 
unless  it  provided  the  appliance  with a voltage in excess of 130v. What 
*is*  likely  is  that  the  50 cycle (hertz) AC stressed your 60 Hz motors. 
It's  ok  to  run  a 60 Hz motor for awhile on 50 Hz, but not continuously - 
they'll overheat. Of course, the toaster didn't care...

Regards,  Chris(tian) V
Subject: Continued Enjoyment!
Date: Sat, 18 May 1996 17:43:30 -0500

Have been reading a little over a week now I think, and can hardly wait for the
next day's mail!  Posted "my story" initially and have had several nice e-mail
chat's .

I have downloaded, for printing out, some of the FAQ sheets and help data, 
because I know nothing about BUYING old machines or cleaning/fixing them 
up and hope to get some knowledge out of these.  Must check my library and
see what they have on old sewing machines -- why didn't I think of that before?
I have been coveting a treadle for years, and in my mind, said it MUST BE A
SINGER, but now perhaps I can start looking around with a broader viewpoint.

And in answer to Rosemary (of the common sense tag line) about zig zag 
attachments -- yes, I had one for the FW I bought in 1955/56, which I foolishly
sold later on.  So what if my kids needed shoes!  But I did not sell the zig 
attachment, but gave it to my mother who had the FW she bought when I was
a baby -- the one I have now -- but when I got her back, only the buttonhole
attachment was there.  Don't know what happened to the zig zag attachment.  
It may have been in with stuff my sister got rid of or perhaps mama got rid of
it because she probably didn't ever use it.  It was about the size of the 
hole attachment, came in a similar box, and moved the fabric from side to side
while the needle (of course) continued in its straight line.

Y'all keep up the wonderful conversations!
Date: Sun, 19 May 1996 14:57:39 -0400
Subject: Cleaning and polishing

Hi!  I bought a 1941 FW at a flea market today and the finish on the base has
a "film" on it - kind of oily/waxy.  Any suggestions on how to clean it up?
 The finish is pretty worn otherwise, but figure I can improve it somehow.

Date: Sun, 19 May 1996 15:07:52 -0400
Subject: Toy sewing machine

Hello FWF's

This list REALLY is addicting!  Just got back from yet another antique
show...Saw another white colored FW for $595. I usually look for Imperial
Candlewick crystal but now find myself looking for SM's and NOW the Toy ones.
  Well anyway, reading about the Toy machines has gotton me very curious.  I
purchased the book by Glenda Thomas "Toy and Miniature Sewing Machines", and
bought my first one at the same time.  It is a Singer 20.  The head is a
brown color and has a satin type paint on it.  The bed and fly wheel are
brown, but shiny.  I paid $18.  No case came with it.  It's sew cute, and
actually works.  I have never seen a SM that did not use a bobbin.  I really
did'nt think it would sew.  I did however adjust the hook thing underneath
out a little more.  I only have 1 problem.  It is missing the knob on the fly
wheel.  Can I purchase one or maybe use something that will do the same
job???????  What about a manual.  I saw a picture of a manual in this book I
just bought on page 168.  Would it be possible for somebody to photo copy one
for me??  I would very much appreicate it.  Any further information on this
little cutie would also be a plus. :D   

Thanks, and I also look forward to reading the daily digests... it's the
highlight of my evening!

Date: Sun, 19 May 1996 14:22:21 -0500
Subject: Elias Howe


With apologies for any inaccuracies, and to those who know a lot more about 

since I had Sincere's book sitting here, I'll 'synopse' the info about Elias 

He was from Mass, worked in a machine shop in Cornwill, MAss for a while, and 
on a sewing machine in his 'free' time for some years.  He doesn't seem to have 
a good business man, and was repeatedly broke.  Anyway, he did produce a 
patented design
in 1946, but it sure doesn't look like what we think of as a sewing machine!  
His design was
a good one, for the time, but didn't market well, as tailors thought it would 
them out of business.  A lot of other machine designers took advantage of his 
and virtually stole his patented work, for which he did take them to court and 
royalties.  His brother , Amasa, also manufactured machines, under license from 
The Elias Howe company made machines.  There is a picture in the Sincere book 
the medallion, of Elias howe, on a machine, also of a Howe machine and an Amasa 
Howe machine.

The Amasa Howe company made machines starting in 1853.  The Elias Howe company 
was formed in
1851, and manufactured a few machines (he was busy pursueing legal action 
patent infringers).  According to the book, he didn't manufacture machines in 
any great number
until slightly before his death, which occured in 1867.  His sons-in-law took 
over his company
"when his health started failing" and bought Amasa's company in 1873.  They 
manufactured machines
until 1886.  The machines pictured are from 1860 (Amasa Howe machine)(no 
medallion visible), 
a Howe sewing machine (manufactured by Howe's sons-in-law, the Stockwells, 
1870, medallion visible,
I think, in the front right of base) - this one also has Howe M. CO. 'written' 
on the pedal
of the treadle, and another picture of the Howe sewing machine.  Nifty little 
thread tension/guide
on the top of the arm, looks like a floral decoration!

Hope I haven't put you to sleep!

Sherrie G
so!  If it is truly an Elias Howe machine, It is a rare item! How much it is 
worth, only
Graham knows...
Date: 19 May 96 18:09:54 EDT
Subject: Contribution 16

True story number 17

Maggie, my SO, and I always leave a little extra time at airport security when
we are on a sewing-machine-buying trip.
I don't know why but a Wilcox and Gibbs and a Betsy Ross in the carry-on bagage
always seems to look like a loaded Ouzi with a spare magazine once viewed
through an x-ray machine.
Like I say, we're used to emptying the bags, answering a couple of questions,
listening to the "I wouldn't want to run up a set of drapes on one of those"
jokes and hearing how the security guard's grandmother had a machine that was 
least 200 years old.
Therefore we were both a little surprised  when leaving Edinburgh a year back
not to send the usual alarm bells ringing. I must have looked a little shocked
for the guard asked: "Is anything the matter, sir"
"Well, no," I replied, "I guess I was expecting you to check the bag."
A big grin came over the guard's face -- he'd been waiting for this for years.
"Why should I stop you sir? You can't hold up a plane with an 1886 Moldacot
sewing machine can you?
He explained his wife was a collector, he did the restoration work and was
currently halfway through a major overhaul of a Moldacot.
I guess he tells the story at every chance he gets and Maggie can't resist
revealing how she signed up ISMACS member 375 in an airport check-in lounge.

Graham F
Date: 19 May 96 18:10:30 EDT
Subject: Contribution

To Terri

Think you have just found the "Dealer of the Year". Elias and Howe huh?
For the record you are right, there are no Howe machines pre-dating the Civil
was but plenty after that. All had the medallion on. You are also right about
woodwork. A tired cabinet can easily me made to look good with a little French
polish ( or, in this case, probably polyurethene laquer) but with a sad looking
the machine, the result is a disaster.
Again for the record, Howe only produced three machines whilst in England -- 
none of them worked. Ask your dealer friend how Howe could have invented the
sewing machine when others in England, France, Austria, Germany and another
American all pre-dated him. Saw some interesting evidence the other day that
Howe ripped off his ideas from a preacher in the deep south years before
announcing his "invention".
Any other nominations for "Dealer of the Year"?

To Kim re transformers
No at all sure about this. However, on British building sites 240 volts is not
allowed which means that every tool used has to go through a transformer to
reduce it to 110 which is the building standard. Perhaps reducing the voltage
that goes through a motor (from 240 to 110) is long term safe but going the
other way as you did whilst using US appliances over here has its problems. I
wonder too, if the transformers you were using could stand the amperage you 
demanding from them
Anyway, I want to look at it from the point of view of going back to basics and
having 240 volt motors rewound so that they meet Singer's original 110 volt
specifications. If this can be done we'll have no unsightly transformers and
should have no other troubles.
In the meantime I think we should all take heed of your warning. Has no-one out
there got a qualified electrician in the family?

Graham F
Date: Sun, 19 May 96 17:34:56 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: Re:More &MOrMachines

Found 2 more machines this weekend.   On Thursday I stopped by a garage
sale. Found a 185K for $7.50.  I ask the lady if she would take $5.00 and
she said OK!  Couldn't believe it.  Then on Saturday went out to the antique
malls and ran across a 401a with cabinet for $55.00.  My heart skipped a
couple of beats. After I left the mall I went to the local Thift store and
found 2 buttonholers and 2 boxes of cams for the  401a.  My mom bought one
set and I bought the other set. It cost me a total of $12.12 for both. I
kinda think the 401a was just waiting for me to buy her. I took the 185K to
the dealer to buy a belt, it still had the orginal belt on her. By the way
the belt cost $6.98 more than the machine, can you believe it. The 185K also
had a case included. Both machines are 8 to 9 on the scale.  The case is
probably a 7 and the cabinet is probably a 7 too.  Anyway I a great weekend.
Really enjoy the FWF , it's nice to have somebody who cares about your
finds.  Ya'll have a good day. Thanks Sheila
Date: Sun, 19 May 1996 19:16:59 -0400
Subject: Old non electric Willcow and Gibbs

 I was wondering if any one knew any info on a non-electric Willcox Gibbs 
machine. I was at a flea market  and saw this tiny thing and had to have it! 
Where do I look for a serial number ,how can I find out how to thread it , and 
any way to find out the value?

Betsy H
Date: Sun, 19 May 1996 17:29:32 -0700
Subject: Replies to Sun. FWF digest

Someone wrote:

        Home Journal (1961) that has a two-page Singer ad.  Boy, is that 
>new (in '61) white FW pretty!  And not a bad price -- I'd buy one 
>new (if I could) for $129.50! :)  I'll probably do something 
>sacreligious, like cut the pages out and frame them for my sewing 
>corner, where I'm keeping my growing collection of machines.

  If I may make a suggestion.  I too have found many old Singer ads.  So 
that I can 
'preserve the originals', I take them to my local copy store, and make a 
Color copy of 
them. I then put away the originals in acid free paper and acid free photo 
boxes, and 
use the copy in a frame in my sewing studio.  Sometimes, it's difficult to 
tell the original
from the copy.....that's how good they are.  

Now you have the original in the book, and still have the great deco for 
your sewing
- ---- ---- --- -- -- -- -- -- -- -

Someone else wrote:

Does anyone have a good source for replacement belts for the Featherweights?
> Saw a vendor at Paducah but they were already sold out.  Thanks.

   Try calling Cutter's Exchange in Tennessee.  They have never let me down 
their phone is 615-893-6493.....Angus is the GuRu of old machines, ask for him!
Subject: Auction finds

Just had to let the group know about our auction finds this weekend.  First I 
got a different machine, a Sylvania.  It says deluxe model 1952 made in Japan.  
It is black with some gold scroll work on it.  It runs though the belt was 
slipping a little.  It had a box of Greist attachments.  Well I only paid $5, 
the attachments were worth that much.  Buying this machine endeared me to the 
auctioneer as no one else showed any interest.  That was good because later I 
got a box with a Singer buttonhole attachment, blind stitch attachment and a 
zigzagger.  Also found a leather needlecase with Singer Hand Needles in gold 

Also in the box of attachments was a Famous Buttonhole Worker.  This 
is heavy, weighs over a pound.  It looks like a stainless steel monster. It was 
made by Lenox Manufacturing Company of Catasauqua, Pa.  It has an originial tag 
from Montgomery Ward for $10.95.  It fits a high shank machine, which I don't 
have so I can not try it out.

Then came the prize, after cooperating with the auctioneer.  A 201-2 in a 
bentwood case.  It is a 7, and looks great.  Best yet after we cleaned it 
alittle and plugged it purred and sewed a perfect stitch.  I have to also tell 
you there was a note with the machine that said set the tension at 4, flat side 
of the needle to the left and thread from the right.  The lady had been an 
extension agent and I guess she wanted to make sure the next owner knew how to 
use it.  Well I paid more than $5 for this one but not all that much more.  Oh, 
my dh says to tell you he put a shine on it with KIWI Western Boot Dressing.  
looks smeary at first but after a little buffing shines like glass.

Also at the same auction I got buttons, sewing stuff and lots of thread on 
wooden spools.  Since I collect and sell buttons and I'm Wooden Spool Antiques 
this was really a great auction for me except for the 90 degree heat. 

Date: Mon, 20 May 1996 01:51:49 GMT
Subject: Info on Franklin SM

DH and I went to several antique stores this afternoon looking for
attachments for my FW.  Bought a Singer buttonhole attachment (#121795) for
$15.  I don't know if thats a good price or not, but I've never seen one
like it.  It's in the orginal box, but no instructions.  However, there was
an 66-16 Instruction Book. There are no templates with the buttonholer, only
"bight" and "space" adjustments on the right side.  Does anyone know the
approx. age of this buttonhole attachment?

We saw a Franklin for $160. The machine worked, but was dirty as was the
cabinet.  The cabinet was most unusual - the treddle was enclosed in the
cabinet - had to open the door to use it.  It didn't have any big scatches,
just needs some TLC.  I'd like some info on the Franklin.  Does this seem
like a good price?  When and where were Franklin machines manufactured?

Saw the most beautiful 66 in a cabinet for $175 - looked like it had never
been used.  I would have liked to have had the machine only, (the cabinet
was rather plain) since I have an oak cabinet and no machine for it (a story
in itself!!!).  

Please send me some info ... thanks in advance.

Date: Sun, 19 May 1996 23:49:08 -0400
Subject: For Sale: Sewing machine related items

All prices include postage. Will consider all offers.

Folding wooden box with 15 attachments. Brown velour inside. Very good
condition. $30.

Singer blind stitch attachment #160616. Complete. Fits FW. $28.

Singer zig-zag attachment #160620. Complete, but paint slightly chipped.
 Fits FW. $25.

Singer buttonholer #160506. Complete in rectangular green plastic case.
Includes feed dog cover. Fits FW. $25.

Singer buttonholer #489510. Complete in egg shaped green plastic case.
Includes feed dog cover. Fits FW. This is the one that would have been for
sale at the same time as the tan or white FW's. $20.

Domestic Buttonholer #2163 in folding leather case with manual and 5
templates. This is for a low shank machine. The feed dog cover does not fit a
FW. $15.

Original manual 66-1. 1913. Well worn $6.

Original manual 66-18. Dated 3/47. Very good condition. $10.

Original manual 66-16. Dated 1/51. Taped cover and well worn. $6.

Original manual 101-4 and 101-12. Missing cover and well worn. $5.

Singer booklet "Smart Fashion Stitches". 1952. Shows how to make 9 decorative
stitches on a basic machine without additional attachments. Covers slightly
dirty, but otherwise in very good shape. $8.

Matchbox size green cardboard box of Singer needles. Almost full. Ex. cond.

Singer zig-zagger #161103 for 301. 1956. Has cams for 4 different zigzag
stitches. It is sooo cute! $30.

The following sets of Advertising cards each have 10 cards with photos on the
front and Singer advertising on the back along with an explantion of the
photo. They are all very early 1900's. All are in their original envelopes.
Will sell all 4 sets for $100.

"Singer souvenirs of the Pacific Coast - Missions". Cards are in very good
condition, envelope is poor.  $25.

"Singer souvenirs of the Pacific Coast - California".  Cards are in excellent
condition, envelope is fair. $28.

"Singer souvenirs of Yosemite Valley".  Cards are in excellent condition,
envelope is fair. $28.

"Singer souvenirs of Portland". Includes an 11th card of a birdseye view of
the Lewis &Clark Centennial Exposition 1905.  Cards are in excellent
condition, envelope needs TLC. $30.

2 different postcards of Seminole women in the Everglades sewing on Singer
handcranks. 1963. $5 for both.

Postcard for Goodwill Industries showing a woman sewing on a Singer
Industrial machine. 1960's? $2.50

Well, this got long quick. I'll save the rest for another post.
Happy Featherweighting,
Date: Mon, 20 May 1996 05:12:28 -0400
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 5/17/96

                         I just made trip to St Louis, this WK End, went to
the prsidential , to try slots out , Ha! not worth talking about. ,spotted a
Flea Market from the window of the monorail, made my husband get off !, went
in, an came across an old White SM in a treadle cabinet,it was very old , had
a long skinny head , with scroll work , not in very good condition $20.00
Husband said he would not carry it home on the plane HA! also found a Singer
in a cabinet stopped and looked it over, it was beautiful, black head with
red scroll work all over the head , even on the wheel, I've never seen that
much red scroll work on one SM,it was in a very plain but nice cabinet, the
little old lady wanted $35.00 for it ,I would have bought it , but my husband
threaten me Ha! Also found a man that had 4 Treadle machines,  Sure wanted to
bring one home.
 I have a Singer FW ZIG -ZaG attachment ,I found at an antiqe shop, it works
great on my FW,Has book. Anyway I had a very nic etime at the Flea Market,
can't wait to go again.                            SANDY

Date: 20 May 1996 13:07:42 +0000
Subject: STUFF


I'm in 7th Heaven.  I now receive my FWF postings at home or at work so if 
I'm not at work, I need not go "Feather-Less," a truly deplorable state of 
being.  I only wish my monitor at home was 17 inches like work and that I 
had a fast Laser Printer at home like at work....(you're never happy!)

My right little finger is in a splint as I was cleaning up the garage so I 
could put some of mother's boxes of stuff in the garage so as to make room 
in the basement to sneak in my Royal from my next door neighbor. which.she 
is.giving.me.for.free.... and it looks REAL good.  I'm lusting for it!  She 
even asked me if it was ok for her husband to bring it over (since my 
husband wasn't at home--even they know!)

My mom &I were cruising down the street and practically caused an accident 
because we saw a treadle sitting out in front of an antique store....so I 
hit the brakes and did a quick U-turn and ran to the little darling, which 
was a White, lifted the lid to look inside and discovered that the Baby was 
missing!!!  Woe, woe; and previously, we had seen a Singer base in another 
antique store...

To Graham:

My sister lives in Eureka Springs, Arkansas...just a short hop from 
Branson....so let me know next time you go there....by the by, I think you 
would be impressed with Eureka Springs....they call it the Town Where 
Misfits Fit.  There are the locals, who are multi-generational descendants 
from forever, the religious Passion Play group (The Passion Play is On-going 
there), and then there's all the folks who went to Woodstock, like my sister 
and her husband and my nephew who was a fetus at Woodstock.  Sandles &
beards and double PHD's, alternative life style, etc.  Anyway, there are 
artists and craftpeople galore, drop outs from the Main Stream, Quilts, and 
Stuff.  I love it, and would there in a second, but my DH despises it. 
 (sigh)  My sister's ten acres have property taxes of only.....$200.  Think 
of all the SMs one could buy with the savings!  Sigh..

As to the Newark Airport, I once made it there from my house in 8 
minutes...of course I was driving my 280Z, it was night and I was 
NOT...observing the speed.limit.ahem!   But I do know the Holiday Inn there, 
and it is easy to get to...and yes, I'm waiting for the story about you 
calling a cab to get to Manhattan.  Should be good.  My husband has a limo 
business so we hear all sorts of stories about out-of-towners.....poor 

About your True Story #13:  My mom always told me to never marry an 
Irishman!!! (My dad was one....a McDonald) but that they did have some 
sterling qualities, one of which was their word.  The other one she 
mentioned is a trifle earthy for this posting.  Anyway, I did take her 
advice.  I'm happy for your experience.  A nosy question, just what is the 
Kimball &Morton worth, ball park figure?

To Debbie

Where are you located?

To Courtv

Thanks for your list...very nice.  It was a lot of work.  As soon as I can 
get around to, I plan to use your list to make up a database of my "stuff." 
 If I come up with more serial numbers, I'll pass onto you.

To Linda E, re:  Crank Machine

Thanks for note; let me know how you like your new baby.  You don't know how 
close you came to not getting her at all....I really wanted her for 
myself...I'm glad you worked out the kinks in the arrangement with Sarah. 
 She seems very nice, and I think I told you that I did buy a Singer 40 Toy 
from her, for a fair (not bargain) price.  Thanks for offering to keep "an 
eye out" for the white FW for me....

About space for your stash; I have a 4 BR house with attic, garage, porch, 
and basement...and have NO ROOM!!!!  We plan to move to Florida within next 
2-3 years.  They have no basements, very neglible attic (very hot n' 
hummid)..it will be tough.  That's when I will be parting with some of my 
babies, I guess.  My DH is very cunning and said I have to pay....for the 
moving expenses.  All he has is his toothbrush and his Marine stuff (US) and 
his marine and fishing stuff...what a mean thing to do!  Not going to garage 
and estate sales is like an addict not indulging in his addiction of 
choice...and I don't know of any SMs 12 Step Programs...woe, woe,woe.

To Kim

Yes, I forget where in my craftiness I have camaflaugged (spelling?) my 
stash.  But half the time I can't even find the stuff I didn't hide.  Like 
I'm forever missplacing my SM oil and having to run out to the Singer store 
and buy more!  And other stuff...sometimes it's lost for so long it could 
become a veritable antique just by roosting so long in my stash..

I'm not sure exactly how many I presently have: it's in the 20's, and 
counting!  6 of which are FW's.....

Don't forget to think of table covers, cloths put over SM and put flowers or 
pictures on top...

To Kathy :

I applaud your craftiness...I think of it more as being Crafty, rather than 
sneaky....it sounds much nicer, don't you think?  In fact when I snuk the 
Spartan in, I had forgotten that I gave my mother the quilt I had purchased 
(for $40).  She reminded me, or who knows when I would of thought of it at 

To MaryAnn :

If you have a Singer dealer, just ask them about the belt for the FW...

To Rose  re:  Mal's Mini Classic:

I know a dealer who sells them (or did, I'm not sure if he still is) in 
Princeton,NJ.  He didn't think much of them, except the physical resemblance 
to the "Real Thing."  He said they were tempermental and on the whole were 
not very good...I wonder why he was selling them???

To Carol A :
Re: 301 manual

If no one else has offered, I would be glad to copy mine for you.  I don't 
have a 301 yet (you lucky devil), but one of the FWs I got came with the 301 
manual in addition to the 221 one...I look upon it as an omen that I should 
have one..no question about it!

From Mary 
Date: Sun, 19 May 1996 18:51:33 -0700

I stopped in an antique store yesterday and saw a couple of machines.  One
was a Singer in bad shape, a very heavy White that had a design embossed on
instead of paint and rusty to boot. They did have one machine that was in
good shape. 

It had a plate on it that said DRESSMAKER. I didn't see any other name on
it.  The manual came with it and had no other names and no copyright date.

It looked like it might be a commercial machine as it appeared to be more
heavy duty than your basic machines. The bobbin cover, throat plate was on
the left hand side and was pretty big.  It extended clear to the edge of the
machine.  It had a round bobbin that fit in same location as a featherweight
bobbin would.  It looked like it might last until the year 3000.  

Anyone know anything about this machine? It was a straight stitch, with a
plain black head.

The price was $50 and they really wanted to bargain with me over it. they
have had it for a year.

Date: Mon, 20 May 1996 09:04:35 -0500
Subject: FW Bobbin Case


I know that I saw a post regarding where to purchase FW bobbin cases at a
resonable price.  At the time I didn't need the information, so I didn't
keep the message.  Can someone send me information. I need a bobbin case
for my FW.

Thank you,
Date: Mon, 20 May 1996 10:04:58 -0500
Subject: Re Krisi S post re Centennials

Hello all,
 I just sent off a Centennial FW machine to a dear friend in Washington DC.
It has a serial number of AH663791.  Singer has dated it at 6/18/48.  The
lady I bought it from received it as a high school graduation gift in 1953.
Yes, it does have the Centennial seal on it so it looks like those
machines were made a quite a bit before the official 1951 date.  Hope this
Date: Mon, 20 May 1996 10:25:19 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Wanted:  hardware and bobbins

Hi All, I was wondering if anyone knows of a source for hardware for a 
bentwood case?  For some reason the metal pieces that hold the top on are 
bent and I'm afraid even if I do get them straightened that they will be 
weak and will bend again...sigh.  Fortunately the locking mechanism is 
fine that was the only piece not bent!!  :)  I am also looking for 
bobbins for my 128.  They are the long shuttle type.  I bought some a 
while ago but now can't locate them...  I have two but it still makes 
colour changes a pain!

Subject: RE:OK, I want one too
Date: Mon, 20 May 96 07:47:03 -0500

Hi everyone,
   Ok, I give up, I want a FW too. Any suggestions, any  for sale out there?
   Millie, I can't find your e-mail address!
   I wasn't going to get a FW, I was perfectly happy with my 1946 Singer.
But, I want an old FW from the 1930's or 40's.
  Please help my novice mind!
  Thanks to all who answered my zigzag question. I was amazed that Singer
had made these. The more I read here on FW FAnatics, the more amazed I
  Does anyone know about a Riccar?(sp) The one I saw was old, with gold
scroll, in perfect condition. At least a 9. The case looked like it had been
pushed there, shoved here, it was a mess.
   I'm becoming an addict!!!  
Date: 20 May 96 11:10:59 EDT
Subject: Contribution

To Betsy re Willcox and Gibbs

Look for the SN under the stitch plate near the stitch adjusting lever.
Not really sure what you have. Is it a hand crank or just the head from a
I can provide a threading diagram if you e-mail me your address.
Its value is more than you paid for it -- but only you know how much more.
There should be quite a lot on the W&G Company archived from earlier FWF

To JP re Franklin
See post from me a couple of days back. $160 sounds OK for a full cabinet model
but you'd be buying it as furniture not as a sewing machine.

Graham F
Date: Mon, 20 May 1996 08:00:20 -0800
Subject: FW's

This past weekend I went to an antique show held at the Puyallup Fair
Grounds in Washington State. There was a guy there that had 5 FW's. Two
black, one older model, and one 50's.He also had 3 white (lt. turquoise). I
asked for his card or phone # and he said he didn't have either.I was
trying to help FWF's find there dream machine and make him a sale but he
was set in his ways. Any machine was 325. and he would sell for less if in
quantities of ten. I am quoting this person because DH and I had to chuckle
at some of the things he had to say. He has all his other machines in a
mall in West Seattle. He went on to tell us he just sold a pink FW last
week for $600., and if we ever saw a Red one (even if we didn't want one)
buy it because it is valued at $25,000.I'm not sure who set the price of
$25,000., or who the prospective buyer is I'm just passing the word. He
say's there are only 12 RED's and they are beautiful!I am reserving my
belief in the RED machine until I can see at least a picture of one (same
for the pink).There were two other FW's at the show, one for 350., and one
for 175.The $175 machine had bubbled paint on the bed and not to pretty. I
was thinking that a hard working determined person could purchase the 175.
machine and for less that $25,000. have it painted red with the best paint
job in the world.Not for resale but just for fun.

Also.....For those of you that do not have a FW or 301 table you don't know
what you are missing. It is so nice to sew with a flush surface and not
have your FW hop around. If you want one and do not care about collectible
value I have a friend that borrowed her friends FW table and made one out
of a solid door.My other friend has a very handy DH and he is makine a few
to sell.All you need is the pattern for the cut out. A handy person can
figure out the frame work to hold the machine in.A pattern for the cut out
could be done just the same as helping each other with manuals. Just at
I did get a black 301 for mothers day (table too), I would never even had
the least bit intrest in one if it wasn't for FWF's. I'm glad I learned
about them and I agree it feels like it has just a little more power and I
love lowering the feed dogs.
One last thing.Graham.... Does the toy Little Red Riddinghood sewing
machine have any increased value because it says "Made in ermany" no "G"?
Date: Mon, 20 May 96 12:23:56 EDT
Subject: for sale

 I have for sale a singer model 29-4 machine. This machine has a long narrow
bed. This was used in the shoe industry. This is a treadle machine complete
with stand all accessories and the instruction manual. If anyone would like
more information please feel free to contact me.

Mike H
Date: Mon, 20 May 1996 09:30:24 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 5/19/96

Hi everyone,

Just wanted to let you know that you can rewire your motors yourself.  I 
did it yesterday on a 128 with the motor mounted on the back and the knee 
lever attachment in the base of the cabinet.  I'm not saying it was easy, 
but it saved me $30.00.  The hardest part was putting the ring clamps 
back on the motor.  What a hassle.  There has to be a better way.  The 
machine now purrs along nicely.  If anyone has a manual they would be 
willing to sell me, I would really appreciate it.

I have a few items to sell if anyone is interested.   Just e-mail me 

Two buttonholers in green plastic boxes.  160506.  They fit low shank 
machines.  Both have 5 cams and the plate cover.  $10.00 each.

Singer zigzag attachment. 160620  This is a little zigzag attachment that 
does one zigzag stitch.  This is not the model with the cams.  The box is 
not in great shape.  $20.00

Greist Zigzagger, like one above but with 6 different metal disks that 
change the zigzag stitch.  Fits low shank machines.  $15.00

Singer buttonhole attachment.  Older model 121795 for Family Sewing Machines.
This does fit the featherweight.  Has manual.  Box is used.  $15.00

Two boxes of cams for zigzagger (Singer)  There are some duplicate cams 
that came with the original ZigZagger.  E-mail me for the numbers.  $7.50 

2 Boxes of extra templates for the Singer buttonholer.  Part number 
160668.  Fits the 160506 and l60743 buttonholers.  $5.00 each.  

Attachments and manual for Minnesota L treadle machine.  $20.00

Postage will be added to all prices listed above.

Date: Mon, 20 May 1996 13:00:04 -0500
Subject: Singer number

Help! I need the number of Singer to get a date on a machine. I have misplaced 
my copy somewhere in the move. 
Date: Mon, 20 May 1996 09:30:24 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 5/19/96

Hi everyone,

Just wanted to let you know that you can rewire your motors yourself.  I 
did it yesterday on a 128 with the motor mounted on the back and the knee 
lever attachment in the base of the cabinet.  I'm not saying it was easy, 
but it saved me $30.00.  The hardest part was putting the ring clamps 
back on the motor.  What a hassle.  There has to be a better way.  The 
machine now purrs along nicely.  If anyone has a manual they would be 
willing to sell me, I would really appreciate it.

I have a few items to sell if anyone is interested.   Just e-mail me 

Two buttonholers in green plastic boxes.  160506.  They fit low shank 
machines.  Both have 5 cams and the plate cover.  $10.00 each.

Singer zigzag attachment. 160620  This is a little zigzag attachment that 
does one zigzag stitch.  This is not the model with the cams.  The box is 
not in great shape.  $20.00

Greist Zigzagger, like one above but with 6 different metal disks that 
change the zigzag stitch.  Fits low shank machines.  $15.00

Singer buttonhole attachment.  Older model 121795 for Family Sewing Machines.
This does fit the featherweight.  Has manual.  Box is used.  $15.00

Two boxes of cams for zigzagger (Singer)  There are some duplicate cams 
that came with the original ZigZagger.  E-mail me for the numbers.  $7.50 

2 Boxes of extra templates for the Singer buttonholer.  Part number 
160668.  Fits the 160506 and l60743 buttonholers.  $5.00 each.  

Attachments and manual for Minnesota L treadle machine.  $20.00

Postage will be added to all prices listed above.

Subject: RE: FW Fanatics 5/19/96
Date: Mon, 20 May 1996 10:21:11 -0800

Dear Chris,
	I am interested in your FW price list for belts, parts, etc.  Would you 
also email me a copy?  Thanks, Mary Ann
Subject: "Junk shop" finds
Date: Mon, 20 May 1996 21:44:00 +1200

Hi everyone

Today I went into our local "junk" shop determined to closely inspect a 
collection of SMs which have been sitting on a high shelf for a long time.
There are five machines: They all are Singers; electric with knee bars. Two 
have Centenial badges with "1951" on them. One of these machines is in 
really good condition shiny black paint with a plain "Art Deco" type gold 
pattern and stripes on the face plate. 
The other is identical but rough (pin scratches scuffed paint).
SN for these two EG231037 and EF 252??
Two of the others appear to be older with more gilt (light floral) and 
floral pattern on the face-plate. One was in excellent condition but 
unfortunately had been sold. SN started with Y

The other still had the pin-cushion wrapped 
around the arm complete with lots of scratches. The gilt on the bed was a 
bit worn. SN EB3888020 . The shop owner plugged this one in and it ran 
The 5th machine is really rough, missing bobbin plate, scratched etc.   

To veiw these machines (apart from the one which I heard running), I had 
to climb up a high ladder while holding my 5 month old baby - I memorised 
the SNs and wrote them on my hand when I got back down - now I can't read 
them properly :(

All machines had solid balance wheels. There were three bentwood cases all
a bit rough.
What are these machines? (I can't call the Singer 800# as I'm in New 
Zealand and the number only works in the United States.)
The machine that I liked the best was sold. The shop owner said a lady had
bought it for someone and would collect it when that person got married; 
and had never come back. He said he couldn't re-sell it to me even though 
he's had it for over a year :( 
Thanks for any help.
Date: 20 May 1996 12:56:57 U
Subject: Fristen &rossmore

Hi everyone
I've never posted here - not even on the list so I don't know if this will
work, but I'm trying to get some info on a machine for a friend and this was
recommended by someone on IQ.
My guild had it's first show this weekend.  Several people brought some
antique quilts and sewing machines to use as props.  Well two of the machines
were working machines and someone stole the shuttle bobbins out of the two
machines.  One was a singer and her husband took the machine to the shop just
as soon as she found out about it.  The other is a Firsten &Rossmore.  I
don't have any more info on it but was wondering if any of  you know if it is
possible to obtain a replacement bobbin for this machine?  Someone was saying
that it's not available.
If anyone could help I'd really appreciate this.  I just can't believe this
could happen.  I'm sure you all already do this - but be sure and remove your
bobbins if you take your machine anywhere like this.  
Aside from this sad note, the show was a great success.  Our guild is only 3
years old, has about 140 members.  We had about 300 people come to the show. 
We had no vendors or anything but did raise quite a bit of money througha
silent auction of miniature quilts and the $1 entry fee.  It was so much fun.
Thanks again for letting me ask this question.
Isabella L
Date: Mon, 20 May 1996 15:26:27 -0400
Subject: 15-30 manual anyone?

I have just recieved a wonderful treadle machine that started it's trip
to me over 8 months ago. THe machine came from Albany and HHAQKris. It
is a fine contribution to my growing group of machines.  I am trying to
find a manual for this treadle. According to SInger it is a model 44.
An industrial treadle sewing machine. No manuals available.

According to the "stitch in time" catalog in my hands, the bobbin case
matches the bobbin case for the singer 15-30.  This of
course is not the same as the bobbin case for any other singer machine- 
but then again why should I have it easy this time.

Of course, I took the bobbin case out, and can't get it back in again.
It is an oscillating hook machine. It is NOT the push up bobbin of the
model 66 or 99. (Kris kindly included a copy of a 66 manual with the

Machine runs smoothly. I have ordered a new slide plate, and I
am ready to go.

The treadle stand is the 6 drawer one, with the cutwork scrolled wood
work around each drawer pull and on the sides.  I tell you this because
I would like to find the one mssing pull knob.( The little round doohickey
that you pull to on to open the drawer).

Mainly I am asking for anyone with a 15-30 manual to contact me for $, 
or other considerations *fabric, etc.

Kim M

PS the treadle action is smooth, and great! Nice machine!
Date: Mon, 20 May 1996 16:09:51 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Featherweight!!!  Not really...but...

It was in a bentwood case and the tag was clearly marked Singer
Featherweight--$100 dollars.  On the otherside of the tags was
written "Key missing -- use screwdriver to open."  Taped to the
handle with duct tape was the "key."  I opened the case and saw the
most wonderful looking black matt Model 128!  

So I ask "how much less than the 100 dollars would you take?"
Not bad I thought but I don't really want it...so I start to say,
"It isn't worth over 50 to me."  I didn't get to the "to me" part. 
At 50 she said,: "I'll take 50."

Needless to say I bought it.  Didn't even bother to see if it would
run or what attachments it had.  Got it home and found a Singer box
with attachments and a tube of lube, five long bobbins, two wooden
spools of thread and in the bottom of the case under the machine a
SIMANCO loop handled screw driver.  Alas, no oil can but I'm still

Plugged it in and it ran but not well.  Now after taking apart the
moter it just purrs right along...Great I think.  Then I got huge
loops on the bobbin thread.  Oh boy!  But an hour or so of
"adjusting" the shuttle it works wonderfully.

The machine had originally been made to be used with a knee lever. 
Now it has a foot pedal and a storage area.  But that's okay too. 
But I do have two questions:  First, did the matte black machines
come with shiny enamel handwheels and bobbin winders?  Actually the
entire bracket from the right of the head itself is in the shiny
black enamel--it just doesn't look original.  Second question: 
Should I refinish the bentwood case?  The Singer decal is the only
protion that is in good shape.

Im so happy!  And thanks for listening!
Date:          Mon, 20 May 1996 17:47:36 +0000
Subject:       For Sale

Hi Fanatics,

I keep finding this stuff and can't keep everything so if anyone is 
in need of any of the following, please e-mail me. Prices do not 
include shipping.  Thanks, Katy

1. Singer buttonholer in green plastic box with SINGER in raised 
letters, # 160506, will fit FWs and other low shank Singers. Includes 
5 metal templates, feed cover plate and a manual copy.  It 
is missing the screw for the feed cover plate but I think that could 
be easily replaced. The buttonholer itself works fine but does have 
quite a few scratches. $20

2. Extra set of buttonhole templates #160668. A green, white and orangey 
red matchbox type box with a slide out tray containing 4 metal 
templates that fit in all Singer buttonholers (3/8" straight, 1 1/16" 
keyhole, 5/8" keyhole, 15/16 straight). The box is a little 
rough. $9

3. Yet another folding oak box containg some but not all attachments for 
Singer treadles. This one is not in the best shape but not bad. $24

4. Greist Attachment set in original gray cardboard box. Fits low shank 
Singers including FWs. Contains an edge stitcher, narrow hemmer, 
zipper foot, gatherer, cloth guide, foot hemmer, multislotted binder, 
quilting guide and that all important adaptor foot. $19

Greist attachment set in black metal box for an old White Rotary 
machine. This thing is chock full of stuff and includes 6 extra 
bobbins. $13

Greist Blind Stitch attachment. Will fit low shank Singers including 
FWs. Works great, original box and copy of manual. $9

Thanks much and have a great day everyone!
Date: Mon, 20 May 1996 21:26:47 -0400
Subject: Cases??

Does anyone know where I can get some wooden cases?? Or at least the bases??
  Old or New.  I have two machines that are "naked" and in need.

Date: Tue, 21 May 1996 13:26:58 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Info on Model 15-91

I went to see an "antique sewing machine" advertised for sale and it 
turned out to be a Singer 15-91, purchased in 1945.  The machine is in 
good condition, few pin scatches and a minor chip or two around the 
throat plate.  She has the original manual as well as various attachments 
-- blindhemmer, ruffler, others I can't identify.  It was recently 
serviced and sews beautifully though I think it's a bit loud.  It's 
pretty darn heavy too.

So even though Graham says value is matter of personal perspective, can 
anyone tell me whether this machine is collectible, does anyone have one, 
a range of reasonable prices?

Date: Tue, 21 May 1996 12:31:37 -0600
Subject: Point taken

On copyright:  Point taken.  I agree, let's cease and desist.
Date: Tue, 21 May 1996 15:48:05 -0400
Subject: Book review

A mystery with a sewing machine theme.

"Sew Easy to Kill" by Sarah J. Mason features a murder with a sewing machine
as the weapon.  Another sewing machine part is used to carry out the second

The book isn't great literature, but I got a kick out of reading it.  It is
published by Berkley Prime Crime, N.Y. for $5.99.  (Web site:
http://www.berkley.com)  The scene is a cozy English village that is
sweltering in a blistering heat wave (do you believe that Graham).  Detective
Superintendent Trewley and his side-kick Detective Sergeant Stone solve the

One question, do walking feet really cost over $50 in England? Second
question, what would a walking foot do to satin being quilted by machine?

Christine T.
Date: Tue, 21 May 1996 16:32:51 -0400
Subject: Old Treadles...

Ever wonder WHY people make plant stands out of treadle irons and WHERE this 
idea originated?  Here is one 
possible answer as quoted from "How to Make Something from Nothing" by Ruth 
Stearns Egge (..."guide to the fine 
art of junking").  Copyright 1968 by Ruth Stearns Egge.  In the section 
entitled "Utilizing Wood", 
subsection "Treadle ypes of Sewing Machine" she says:

   start quoting "Only a short while back, every junkyard in the country was 
glutted with these machines. Many 
of them, standing outside and exposed to the weather, were already too far gone 
to be of any use.  As with most 
things that nobody wants while they are plentiful and everyone covets once 
thery're scrce, oldfashioned sewing 
machines may soon become true treasures and exceedingly hard to find.
   "At present there are still a number of antique machines about--in attics 
and basements, as well as 
secondhand shopes--and their uses are multiple.  The cast-iron legs are in 
moderate demand for dressing tables 
or plant stands.  The drawers, especially those with careved design on one 
side, make very decorative planter 
boxes.  Those with a rounded end in front can be soaked in water to remove the 
glued on curve.  Or leave the 
curve as is, and use the two drawers, instead of one, to make a longer planter. 
   "Some shops do not take time to slavage the rack or framework into which the 
drawers slide unless it is in 
perfect condition.  ...  Such bits of molding make interesting trim, say on the 
flat top of a trunk or chest, 
as does the carved ornate wood from the front of the machine (unless the design 
includes lettering)."  end 

She goes on for another three paragraphs about the uses for drawers and the 
removable top covers for the old 
machines.  After seeing an old treadle stand (one of the older looking ones 
with the foot shaped pedal) topped 
with formica at a recent antique show this little book made me very upset.  Now 
I just wish that I had the 
money to buy all the treadles I see.

On a brighter note Singer says that my 128 was born in 1946.  Of course the 
dating info I've pulled from the 
net says that an AG serial number is from 41.  It does have the knob for stitch 
length and no numbers on the 
tension dial.  And of course the famous "hiccup" of the needle.  Would it be a 
sacrelige to canabalize parts 
from another machine that isn't in as good of exterior shape to but doesn't 
"hiccup" to fix mine?  Still sews 
wonderfully and through more layers of denim than I care to count.

End of the ramblings...Jim
Date: Tue, 21 May 1996 17:17:51 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Looking for a Toy Machine

Hi,  I am looking to purchase an older toy sewing machine.  If you have one
to sell, please email me.  
Date: Tue, 21 May 1996 18:01:53 -0400
Subject: White treadle

My good friend has moved from Montana to Anchorage, Alaska, back to Montana,
then to Las Vegas and hauled her three sewing machines along with--all in the
back of a truck.  She is nuts.  One is a White treadle, SN# FR2480983.  Does
anyone know how to date it?  Also she donated her attachments to Good Will
and would now like to find them again (replacements)!  One of her other
machines was a FW in, she says, mint condition.  She mailed it to her niece a
few weeks ago.  When we chatted by phone, and I told her I was preoccupied by
FWs and old sewing machines, she asked about its worth.  Needless-to-say, she
couldn't believe its value.  Would appreciate any advice, info., parts offers
on the White.  Thank you.  --Mari
Date: Tue, 21 May 96 17:53:09 -0700
Subject: request for featherweight

I am interested in obtaining a featherweight mechine.  I 
live in western Nebraska and would appreciate hearing from 
people who might be able to help me obtain one of these 
wonderful little machines.  Contact me 
Subject: help with a toy machine?
Date: Tue, 21 May 1996 22:48:36 GMT

Hi, all...went out hunting this morning and visited all the antique and/or
sewing shops in a small city about 80 miles away. No luck with an FW--but I did
hear three times about the "little black machine in the little case? oh, I sold
that last week."
Went off to a rummage/thrift store that carried the advertisement "if we don't
have it, you don't need it". I asked about old machines, and the woman behind
the counter said" we have two; that old treadle, and a little one in a case."
Well, I managed to control my excitement  until she brought up a red
alligator-skinned box. Well, I knew it wasn't a FW. It turned out to be a
Hamilton-Ross toy machine. My very first toy machine!!

 I had to reattach a wire in the foot pedal, and it works. However, I don't 
a manual for it or any idea of how to adjust tensions for chainstitch. The
machine happened to be threaded already, so it does stitch, but the chain is
badly looped on the bottom. I tried tightening the tension, and all that did 
cause broken threads. Also, does anybody know if it takes special needles? I've
compared them to my other needles, and the shank is much shorter. Are these
available anywhere?
 I'd appreciate any info on this machine. I have no idea how old it is--50's?
60's? It really is kinda cute, and my two daughters are already arguing over 
Little do they know-they have to get past MOM!

Date: Wed, 22 May 1996 06:19:04 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Another fw

Yesterday morning I saw an ad in the paper for a fw for sale for $225. My
husband even encouraged me to look at it (guess I've convinced him of their
worth), so I called and went over to check it out. It turned out to be an
anniversary model (which I didn't have yet) with its manual, attachments,
oil can and lubrication tube(in its box). The case is a little beat up, but
the handle's intact and the latches are both there and work. The machine
itself is in pretty good shape with a few scratches, but nothing major. The
funny part is, the woman selling it works in a sewing machine store, so they
had just cleaned and oiled it - I have no idea why she was selling it at
such a low price, but of course I bought it and added number 6 to my
collection. I know it's crazy to keep buying these machines, but they are so
cute and run so well and the price seemed quite good to me for all that was
there. Too bad I seem to have to spend over $200 for all my fws, but even
that seems worth it to me. Someday I may have to start selling some, but for
now I can just admire them - and even sew on them on occasion! Is it true
that the anniversary models are more collectible, perhaps due to there being
less of them than the others? I like to have some justification for this
craziness, but I always seem to be able to come up with some reason to get
yet another! Sue M.
Date: Wed, 22 May 1996 09:08:48 -0700
Subject: Where's Quilting Possibilities? &older Elnas

Mary,  We are located in Bayville, 210 Ocean Gate Drive.  908-269-8383.  
I will email you directions if you need them.  We were at the Woodbridge 
quilt show, weren't you the one who bought the Featherweight rubber stamp 
and we had a nice chat???????????


PS  I am an Elna dealer and I missed the first posting about the older 
Elnas (we have been having trouble with our emails - human error not the 
computers!) If someone will repeat the question, I may be able to find 
out the answer.
Date: Wed, 22 May 1996 08:24:21 CST
Subject: Electricity

DH is an elctrician, and I posed him the question of sewing machines on
transformers in Europe and their demise on returning to the states.  The
problem is, indeed, the 50-60 cycle difference.  He says that if you take
one to Europe and use a transformer, it's useing it's little life up at 
triple the rate, and just can't take it when it returns.  I should have
taken notes obviously, and if anyone wants more technical info, I'd be
glad to ask again.  I neglected to ask about one wired for overseas comming
here and being used on a transformer.
He did say that it is going to be harder on older items, versus newer machines.
The newer ones should be able to take it.  Taking a Featherweight over and
putting it on a transformer would be a disaster.

Date: Wed, 22 May 96 08:07:04 -0500

   I found a FW at an antique store! First the lady said $385, then $350 so
I said, "is that the bottom line?" She said if I came with cash right now I
could have it for $300. It's AL559380 and when I called Singer they said it
was born 14 Oct 1953. It's AL, so I thought 1955.

   The FW is in beautiful condition probable a 7 1/2, it does have fine
scratch marks on the base. It came with all the attachments, a old
buttonholer in a green box, extra set of 4 cams in original box, 2 keys, the
original manual, an old lubricant tube in original box, it has a small shiny
screw driver and the old black one with the loop end.

   The case was dirty, I cleaned it with black Kiwi shoe polish, one corner
was scruffed up to the wood, so I used a "goop" silicon like glue and
smoothed all the covering back over the wood, let it dry and put black shoe
polish on it too. Now it's hardly noticeable. The lining inside was coming
loose at the top, so I used a regular glue to put it back. Then I took the
black shoe polish and did the whole inside including the lid and pedal
holder. Looks great!

   Question -- The case cover has fibers. So, is it made out of material of
some kind? 

   And don't you know, I also found a treadle I want while looking for a FW.
I have spent my SM allowance for months to come. I really need this treadle,
it reminds me of my grandmother. There is a way to do this. I'll just have
to put it on lay away. A little here and a little money there and the next
thing you know, it'll be home. My hubby had told me when I first started
looking for a treadle that we have no room. We have 4 bedrooms, 1740 sq feet
home, only he and I and our 2 lovely Golden Retrievers. I told him if I
found one I'd sit it in the middle of the living room floor, we don't use
that room much anyway. Remember though this was before I decided I had to
have a FW.

   Now I have 3 expensive hobbies! First was the computer, it's nice not to
have to share, then there's quilting, and now I've become a SM Fanatic!
Vintage that is. I already have a serger and fancy zigzag. They don't count
because in 40 yrs they'll be a pile of junk with broken plastic cases. 

   The lady at the fabric store where I'm going to be teaching quilting in
July told me that I was not allowed to bring my beautiful Julie Singer, 1946
in bentwood case, to my quilting classes.She doesn't want anyone saying that
the OLD machines are better. I said "they are" She runs the Singer
department at the store. She was the one who was going to get me a manual
for this 15-91, photo copy for a mere $29.95! WOW, what a deal. I bought a
original from Dale Pickens for $25. Plus Jim who I bought the machine from
gave me a photocopy which cost him $3.50!

To Yvonne ,
  I had a red toy that I believe was a Singer when I was small, maybe around
1949. Wish I had it today. My Mom gave it to the neighbor kids across the
street. I found it over there in their sandbox!! It had just disappeared off
the shelve in my toy room. > He say's there are only 12 RED's and they are
beautiful!I am >reserving my belief in the RED machine until I can see at
least a >picture of one (same for the pink)

Per Kim M 
>According to the "stitch in time" catalog in my hands
What is this "stitch in time catalog and where do I get one?

Happy Days!
Date: 22 May 96 10:37:15 EDT
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 5/20/96

While lurking in a local antique store yesterday I spyed a Singer manual for 
9w family.  It was a 10 on the Graham scale.  Anyone interested can E-mail me
for details.

I love and look forward to the FWF digest everyday.  Thanks, Sue!!!

Carol Ca
Subject: Books
Date: Wed, 22 May 1996 10:46:51 -0500

What are the names, and authors if possible, of the various authoritative books
that you all use to identify machines and learn about them?

Date: 22 May 96 11:48:31 EDT
Subject: Contribution

To Mary re opting-out
Don't you hate,it when you've travelled thousands of miles to go soemwhere that
finishes up disappointing and then, after you return someone tells you about
another place you should have visited.
I wan't impressed with Branson (Maggie calls it the place where country singers
go to die) but Eureka sounds very different.
What, I'm wondering, is it about my postings makes you think I'd be interesed 
a place full of unkempt,society's drop outs with 'ollogy degrees. Anyway, most
perceptive of you, and I'll be sure to visit if ever I'm in the area again.
Datsun Z range now very collectable in the UK -- I guess the same is true in
Re ball-park figure for Lion. Difficult one as none has every been sold but
Maggie has turned down an offer of $16K.
We live in London , Maggie right in the centre (English spelling) overlooking
Tower Bridge and the Tower of London and I'm on the eastern outskirts

To Sheri
I don't think you are going to find hardwear for a bentwood case off the shelf
anywhere. What you need is a long-established desaler who has a pile of old
cases that he is willing to strip. If all else fails try contact Cathy or Steve
Racine at The Sinple Machine in Charlton Mass (508) 248 6632. Tell Cathy, hugs
from G

To ? (no name on posting). Re Made in ermany

The Casige Company used standard Made in Germany decals for their machines.
Sorry to say Made in ermany would simply suggest a fault and would reduce the
value very slightly rather than increase it. 
Some dealers dream up stories of how much stock they have, of what they have
just sold and what certain items are worth (red FWs for example). I think the
idea is to impress the customers with their expertise. Usually, as you found,
the customer finishes up laughing at them. Please tell him if you meet again
that I can provide red, green blue etc FWs at only $20,000. Discount on 
I'll even cover shipping coats. One other thing, he pays up front when he 
his order.

To Isabella re  Fristen &rossmore

Your  Fristen &rossmore is acutally, I guess, a Frister and Rossman made in
Germany. It's worth trying to see if a Singer shuttle will fit as this company
made many Singer clone machines.
Re-reading your post I'm not sure if it's the shuttle or the bobbin or both 
have gone missing. If it's just the bobbin and you still have the shuttle
there's no problem -- send me shuttle and I'll find a bobbin to fit. 

To Bobbie and all
The SRM (Singer Recognition Manual) was posted a couple of days back and should
be in the States by now.Reproducing it is not going to be easy -- some of the
pix were very poor -- so give Bobbie some time with it. She tells me she will
post here as soon as it's ready to go.

Graham F
Date: Wed, 22 May 1996 12:24:31 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 5/20/96


Even though I have promised myself, no more machines, I found one in a 
neighboring town's antique shop that I could not resist.  It is a Wheeler and 
Wilson treadle, the type with the beautiful carved wooden box on top.  I had 
seen this machine last year at $125 and yesterday it was reduced to $50.  

The wooden box of attatchments was included and also the book.  No date.  The 
machine has a round bobbin.  The book proclaimed," made by the Singer 
Manufacturing Company."  Does anyone know any history of this machine?  Does 
it pre-date the singer's?  Probably not, with the round bobbin.

I think Wheeler and Wilson has been discussed here before, but skimming as 
much mail as I do, I can't recall any facts about them.  I would appreciate 
any information any one knows about these machines and the company that made 

Thanks in advance.  And thanks to Sue for keeping this great list going....

Barb K.
Date: Wed, 22 May 1996 15:05:00 -0400
Subject: Foot pad for FW foot pedal

Hi all

My DH was fixing the speed control on my 1949 FW and when he screwed the
feet back on, one broke off!  i couldn't be mad because he fixed my original
problem.  Now I need to know where to get the pads for each corner of the
foot control.  I figure I should replace each one, anyway.  

Are they available and How much??

Went to a Vac &Sew where the man seemed to know a lot about old machines
previously and his teen-age son was in charge for the day.  He told me it
couldn't be a FW because HE KNEW that they only made FW in the 1950's!!

I said  "Wrong!"  but , of course he knew everything and didn't believe me.
I Believe I will check back when DAD is there!

I love my FW TABLE.  Found it for $48 and feel it is a bargain.  It is the
metal-sided kind with round legs.  Good shape.  I heard of another table,
wooden edge kind but the price was $90!

Saw Krisi S's old Free-arm today and it is a BEAUTY!  How many of those are
there, anyway???


Date: 22 May 1996 21:11:11 +0000
Subject: Stuff

Dear Sue:  thank you for all the work and time and sweat and worry you 
invest into keeping this digest Alive &Well.  I nominate you for 
FeatherWeight of All FeatherWeights (altho' from your dedication and work, 
you should be a HeavyWeight FeatherWeight!

To Sandy  :

Some trips are better taken alone; I feel so sad you had to pass up such a 
bargain....I would never ever even remotely consider making a 
purchase(SM)(or much of anything other than groceries) in FRONT of my DH!!! 
 Unless it were a FeatherWeight, (he  understand but does not fully 
comprehend this) and even that would probably be a Big Time Hassle, to 
 the situation at the very .  Ha!  I hope you were able 
to double back and get it or sneak a note to the dealer to get in touch with 
you later and arrange a liaison?  A FW one, of course!  You have to have all 
your pistons popping all the time!

Next time you go to the Fleas, send your DH fishing or something!

To Lede I :

The Evil Person who stole the bobbins from your antique machines at your 
quilt show - if ever caught - should have all their fingers &toes sewen 
together with a 16 needle and heavy duty thread on a giant industrial 


Does anyone know of a place to procure replacement bobbin winders for 1933 
FW?  I just remembered my 1st Child, Sparta (because I bought him in Sparta) 
 has a sort of sickly winder, according to my Singer guy.  He said he 
thought there might be some being made for replacement, but never came up 
with anything.  Does anyone have any info on this?  This is a very nice FW 
with all the chrome, made in 1933...it cost me $75 and I thought I overpaid! 
 I was so excited I neglected bargaining....but for once, I didn't care, it 
was such a High, after so many disappointments and following leads that 

Toodles for now:  hope everyone is surviving the Heat Wave...it was winter 
forever, then rain forever...then BANG! 96-97 degrees....ugh!  Today and the 
next few days should be beautiful...I can deal with that...
Date: Wed, 22 May 1996 07:35:37 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: FW's For Sale

	Here is the update on the current list, many have sold and new 
ones have been added.

AG  $360 Case, Copy of Manual, a few attachments. There is wear on this 

AJ  $450  Good Condition, Manual, attachments, Case. Machine has wear vut 
I would consider it normal wear.

AL  $450 Case, Manual, Attachments, wear on machine.

AM  $550 Very, very good condition on machine, attachments, and case, 
original manual. Look good.

AE  $550  Mint condtion, case, attachments, copy of manual, scrolled 
faceplate, gold intact also black finish is great.

AL  $450  Very good condition, attachments, case, copy of manual.

	Shipping and handling $30 also includes insurance and tracking. 
If you need further info e me.  All those that 
have made specific requests for machines I have logged and will call you 
in order of list. Hope I find some whites soon. Zsuxxa
Subject: RE: FW Fanatics 5/20/96
Date: Wed, 22 May 1996 17:07:24 -0600

Hello everyone - I'm twisting in the wind~ ( I wrote wine there by 
accident first, and it might be better if that were the case! ) A local 
woman phoned and left a message on my answering machine that she had a 
mint condition featherweight for sale.  I've returned her call several 
times a day, for several days but she isn't home, or at least isn't 
answering her phone, and doesn't return my calls.  Someone is tormenting 
me here!  I'll let you know if I ever get in touch with her - don't know 
anything more about her than her phone number - but I'm sitting down 
right now to go through the book line by line -  Susie
Date: Wed, 22 May 1996 21:34:32 -0400
Subject: Antique store finds

Spent two days rummaging thru antique stores and overturned quite a few
sewing machines and items.  Would appreciate some feedback and leads for the
following if you feel like chatting.

Willcox &Gibbs machine of my dreams--only this one's electrified.
 S#A683693.  "Travel sewing machine" says the sign.  $385.  Has a W&G motor
that fits alongside the machine.  Pretty needs polish.  Graham, can you
identify this model for me and let me know how much to pay for a treadle?
 Are they common?  Thank you!

Singer 66 in beautiful refinished oak cabinet.  1919 working treadle.  $445

Western Electric S#A95594.  I may go back and get this one for only $38.50.
 Gorgeous art deco gold with slight bit of red on black machine.  In oak
bentwood case.  Needs TLC.  Motor turned with gusto but bobbin didn't connect
with thread.  Anyone know history, model number, birthdate, have manual,

Toy KAYanEE (U.S. Zone Germany) sewing machine.  Red.  $60

Victorian looking, heavy cast iron handcrank with lovely legs on base.  Some
of name is  missing (last letters NGTON), otherwise gold in fair condition.

Singer treadle sitting wounded out of its table.  S# worn but Singer 1/800
thought it was a Model 27 (1905) manufactured in Montreal.  Rusted plate, one
side missing.  Pretty gold work on smaller machine.  $25

Griest attachments in black metal box marked "Attachments.  $12

One shop had a handcrank up high and the person working didn't want to climb
a ladder to even show me the machine.  Another shop had treadle "body parts"
in different corners--two beautiful double drawers on one side and a nice
treadle foot pedal on another.  Someone wanted the drawers.  Said her friend
made a nice night table combining lots of them.  Ergh!  --Thanks from Mari
Date: Wed, 22 May 1996 21:56:06 -0400
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 5/21/96

Hello everyone.  Now that I am completely addicted to reading our daily
digest, thought I would put my 2 cents in re: old machines, cabinets turned
into planters, etc.  Naturally when I go antiquing now I look at old sewing
machines (although I'm only really interested in FWs) and the ones that I
have seen so far seem to be in really bad shape. Most don't look like they
could sew a stitch and appear to be incomplete machines.  I know that many of
you absolutely hate the idea of turning old machines and cabinets into
something other than what was orginally intended.  But some of the ones I've
seen just look as though nothing could be done with them sewing wise.  Would
you save them all no matter what the condition?  Why would you want to?  I
just think that if we save every old thing, the world would soon look like my
sewing room!  I wouldn't think that antique dealers would take apart/make
into a lamp (yes, I did see one in the antique store) a perfectly good SM or

Off the subject, but was wondering if there are others in Central Calif. who
might want to exchange 'finds'.  I've seen some good cabinets at yard sales
for $22, but since I'm not searching for cabinets or treadles, etc. was not
interested.  If there are any of you in my area (Visalia, Fresno area) who
might want to be contacted let me know what you're interested in.  Claire
Subject: for sale
Date: Wed, 22 May 1996 20:44:20 -0600


I have a Kenmore buttonholer  #60706 for sale, it has all the parts, 
including the manual which is in  excellent shape.  $10.00 plus shipping.
Also have a manual for an Eldredge Model B sewing machine.  It's in pretty 
good shape, 1 page is ripped, but it is on the top fourth of the helpful 
suggestions page.  $5.00 includes shipping.
I recently had to fly to Washington state for a long weekend to check up on 
my dad who had had a heart attack, while there I checked out a few antique 
stores..boy the prices on their machines were really high.  I saw a 
beautiful 99 with a perfect finish, but at $180.00 it was too high for me.
Also saw a hand crank Singer, rusted, crank wouldn't budge, $150.00, I was 
disappointed, so I went to a garage sale, walked in, and right there in a 
cabinet was a 301 for $15.00, and that included the buttonholer in the 
pepto bismol pink egg, both the manuals were there, yes I bought it.  It's 
missing the throat plate and the presser foot, but for $15.00, I guess I 
can live with it. VBG
Mom and dad are storing it until I can drive up to get it.  Then my S-I-L 
offered me her late mothers Singer sight unseen,  I said sure and threw my 
little another sewing machine dance, which made my whole family look at me 
real funny.  It turned out to be a 1928  99, with all the attachments, and 
a box full of really great misc. sewing aids.  Mom and dad are storing that 
too.  Plus, my dad is doing great.  All in all a great weekend,

Date: Wed, 22 May 1996 20:33:46 PST
Subject: Singer 66, Collective Noun for FWs

Today I bought a tube of German paste metal polish, Simichrome Polish, on the 
advice of an antiques dealer who specializes in restorations.  She asked me if 
had "one of them lightweights."  She meant, of course, a FW, and we chatted 
about our respective machines.  I'll let you know how the polish works out.  I 
want to remove a very light coat of rust on the presser foot on my "new" Singer 
66 machine which I found at the Salvation Army.  It's in a beautifully 50's 
cabinet, blonde Danish modern.  The small metal identification plate on the 
machine appears undamaged, but says only "66 -   " so I don't know (and Singer 
couldn't tell me) whether it's a 66-19 or what.  I think "66 -  "  is the 
designation!  Does anyone have the story behind this?  

Besides a 1920's manual for a White Rotary machine, I also found today an 
unusual (to me) sewing kit:  the size and shape of an iron, complete with 
handle, covered in oak veneer.  The top (with the handle) is hinged and inside 
are spool pins and storage space!   Lovely.

Finally, I've been giving some thought to the proper collective noun to be used 
when talking about our machines.  A "chorus" of Singers is too easy.  A "hum" 
Featherweights?  A "comfort" of Featherweights?  Because of the tenor of our 
conversations on this list, however, I think I prefer a "pride" of 
Featherweights.  Or should that really be a "pride" of Featherweight owners?  

Sandy W
Date: Thu, 23 May 1996 00:00:48 -0400
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 5/21/96

Started to check out a Salvation Army Antique store when I first started
looking for a FW.  Lucklily I was able to get my first FW, Black one, through
my boss - owner of a Quilt Store (Quilt 'n' Things in Montrose, CA.).  Still
checked the store afterwards at least once a week.  About a week ago went in
and saw three new sewing machines.
Opened on and it was a 221K FW, bisque in color and such good condition.  The
case needs so much more help than the machine.  I took it home, cleaned,
oiled and lubed it and then decided to try the stitch.  It is better than the
FW I purchased for a lot more.
It came with attachments, no buttonholer but  a ruffler, zipper foot, two
bobbins.  I have one of those finds - $45.00, no tax.  I am living in the
best of two worlds.  It doesn't have
any fancy work on it but it is a wonderful FW.  According to Nancy, it was
made between '68 and '70.  Would like to find two more just because I have
four daughters and would very much like to live one to each.  Only two really
would make use of them.  It is so much fun looking.
Date: Thu, 23 May 1996 07:33:14 -0500
Subject: Swedish singer

Hi all!

My dh has found another interesting machine, at least to him!  This one
isn't for sale, however.

He is in Goteborg, Sweden on a business trip and met a friend of mine
for dinner. turns out she has an antique Singer. Now, he hasn't told
me about it yet, but my friend Emailed me the serial number and 'model'
number from the cover of the manual, which is printed in Swedish.
I'm not clear whether it is a treadle or not at this point, as Tim
doesn't get home until tonight (Thurs. pm)

I have copied the serial number and model as Anita sent it to me.
I haven't been able to get through to Singer, will they even have
the machine listed in the States?
> Here it is:
> Model: Singer 15 K 88
> Serial number: Y9417356

Amazing, the man can find machines anywhere!  The really best part was
that Anita is convinced I have him 'well educated'! LOL!

Date: Thu, 23 May 1996 08:05:31 -0700
Subject: New Singer bobbins


I bought a pack of 4 clear plastic Singer bobbons for my 99-13. (On the
package it states clearly they are supposed to fit this machine.) I have no
problem with plastic and they seem to be fine for the bobbin case but they
don't fit on the bobbin winder. The center hole is too small!

Anyone else have a problem with these new ones?

Date: 23 May 96 13:07:21 EDT
Subject: Contribution

To all: re values

I've been taken to task quite a bit via e-mail for not wanting to discuss 
of various machines on FWF.
Let me make it clear where I stand on this.

I am quite happy to answer the: "I've bought an XYZ for $123. Was it a fair
price? or "I've seen an XYZ in an antique store for $123. Should I go for it?"

I am not happy with "I have just bought an XYZ. What is it worth? or "There is
an XYZ in the local antique store. What should I pay for it?" questions.

I hope everyone can see the distinction here. 

I can appreciate someone wanting to know whether they have a bargain I am not
happy about contributing to the "what's it worth" movement

In Britain we are plagued with so-called experts apprearing on radio and TV
shows or organising "valuations" in  malls. I know from my observations in the
States that just about every book on collectables is a price guide.

So far this year I have turned down three book contracts because the publishers
insist on including "values". I quote from one letter received from a 
" Be sure to increase real values by a high percentage. It allows for any
inflation and high prices always make owners feel good."

Like I said earlier, I'm happy to let someone know if they had a good buy or, 
the other hand, could have done better, and more than happy to help someone
avoid paying too much for something.

All collectors have had super-cheap buys. Most of us have paid too much for
something in the past and will probably do so again.  But I'd rather love all 
funny collector  bits rather than loose sleep worrying about  "what's it 

Sorry to go on a bit about this. It's a particular fad of mine.

Christine  re murder mystery
I gotta have a copy of this. Have tried the Prime Crime Site but I can't order
it from the UK. Would anyone buy me a copy and post it over here? I can have a
cheque written from Washington to cover book and postage.
Re the blistering heat wave in the cozy English village. This must have been
July 16 1987. It's still talked about here today.

Jim re old treadles
Would like to use the excerpt in ISMACS News. Could you give me the publisher's
details please?

To Kalna re toy sewing machines
Maggie Snell has large stock of toy machines from 1890 to 1950s. Contact her
e-mail 100644.3142@compuserve.com.
I have a business interest here.

Laurie re toy machine
Congratulations on the purchase. It never ceases to amaze me how many toys were
made in the States to run off mains electricity. That was a big no-no here.
Instead we had battery-powered models that would manage about six inches of 
before the  cells ran out of steam.  
Date: Thu, 23 May 1996 16:21:52 -0400
Subject: A New FW Owner

Hi All!  I just purchase my first (and probably NOT my last) FW yesterday at
a local consignment shop. Here is my story:

Yesterday, (Wednesday) DH decides to take ME (of all people!) out for
breakfast ALONE sans kiddies (who we tossed on their respective busses by
8:30)..... then, we ambled down the block to a store that sells old things
on consignment.  What did I see but a Sears Kenmore sewing machine in a
case, sitting by the sidewalk.... Gee, says I, that's kind of neat. Dh says,
if it trips your trigger....... the man then says, well if you like THAT,
maybe you'd like this better and brings out this little black box, about 12"
high by about 12" wide.  What's inside you might wonder?  A little black
Singer with the gold flowery kinda designs on it, not one but TWO complete
buttonholer sets, all the attachments I could ever need in my little life,
needles, etc etc etc.  Even a smocking attachment! (Can you hear that I'm
about to SQUEAL with delight?!)  

What makes this whole thing really exciting is that DH actually handed me
his wallet and said, if you want it, go get it..... It was, hold on to your
hats!  $10!  YES, I said $10!!  It's the perfect size to take with me on
vacation in the woods of NY, where I'm always good for at least one quilt
during our two weeks of "roughing it" (no shower inside, but we have a potty!)

I AM SO EXCITED!  Sorry to shout but DH is a tightwad from days gone by (his
wallet actually CRIES when he opens it!) and I'm psyched that he said, sure.

I called Singer and found out that it is a Model 221, born December 12,
1952.  I am so happy to have something that 'everyone else' has, instead of
sitting here drooling and breaking a commandment (thou shalt not covet)..
The buttonholer attachments are copyrighted 1948 and 1959.... 

DH left the house, chuckling, that I was like one of the kids with a new
toy.  Well?  I AM! I have a nifty new toy that runs GREAT, BTW. Needs  a
good dusting and an oiling, but otherwise, hums right along.....

So there I sat yesterday, all afternoon, with my new toy, country videos
playing in the background, kids still in school, all my fabric packed away
(in preparation for the new baby) and a tall glass of iced tea.   Today, I
just stared at it.... BTW, it's still sitting on the kitchen table from
yesterday. We ate dinner around it last night!  I wouldn't let anyone TOUCH
it, let alone move it!  I think I'm going to try and figure out how to
thread it, then play a little more.

I enjoyed reading today's digest.  Looks like I'm going to have yet another
expensive hobby..... as if I don't have enough already!

Sharon D
Date: Thu, 23 May 1996 14:33:02 -0600

To Christine T who asked if walking feet really cost $50 in England.
Apparently, you have not purchased a Bernina walking foot.  Yarrrgh!

Mary Sue
Date: 23 May 96 18:44:52 EDT
Subject: Contributions

Jeanne and all re transformers.

With the Singer motors -- at least all those make here  -- the cycles is not a
problem. In the UK we use 50 cycles, in the USA you opt for 60. Fortunately,
Singer motors are rated 50-60 cycles and I certainly know of two  Freearm
Featherweights that have been operating in California for over five years with
However, I repeat, my plan is to have the motors re-wound to original Singer 
volt specification. If all this works well and we get our arithmetic right over
shipping, insurance, customs duties etc, Maggie should be able to offer 221 and
222 models at resasonable prices.

Rosemary re red Singers

Certainly red Singer Models toys exist -- thay came in a large variety of
colours as the 1950s/60s Model 20. But red FWs -- I don't think so.

To Barb K re Wheeler and Wilson/Singer

Your Wheeler and Wilson made by Singer is a result of the SMCo buying out
Wheeler and Wilson in the 1905s. Before that, the companies had been deadly
rivals. After the take over the Wheeler and Wilson Machines continued to be 
at the W&W factory in Bridgeport, Conn, for a few years but with a SMCo decal
added. Last time I was in Bridgeport part of the factory was still there and 
being used by an antique-type dealer deeply into juke boxes and the like.

Marie re Wilcox and Gibbs
The electrified W&G is the one to have if you are going to use it. Fine 
nothing to break, nothing to go wrong. The one you are considering is 1924/
$385 is heavy money. A Condition 8 should run around $200 east coast and $275
west coast -- sorry don't know where you are situated. Treadle prices will
depend on the style of treadle. Some just had plain tops, some drawers one 
some both, some full cabinet with doors, some pretty top cover with a lid and
attachment compartments.Guess you should figure to start with the plain one at
$250 up to twice that for the full cabinet. These are east coast, add around
plus 30% west coast. remember its easy to re-furbish woodwork but no way to
properly put missing decals back on a machine. Price suggestions above assume 7
to 8 condition and there are enough of these about to make it unecessary to buy
anything in lesser condition.
See earlier postings for information on the W&G company.
KAYaeNE is a reasonable price.
The Victorian machine ----NGTON is probably a Wellington. Made by the Bradbury
Company in Oldham in the centre (English spelling) of England.
It would have originally had a picture of the Iron Duke (he whupped Napoleon at
Battle of Waterloo in 1815 and went on to be Prime Minister of  Britain in the
days when it was Great Britain).

To all

Have just been getting reports from Brimfield, Mass, the largest Antique Show 
America. By all accounts plenty of machines there but many at crazy, crazy
prices. Things that were thick on the ground five years ago for $100 a throw,
are now sitting there marked at $500. So what's happened in five years to cause
this? Price guides that's what. Stop the price guides and you halt this false
escalation in prices which will crash one day in a big way as it has in other
And how do you stop the price guides. Stop buying them -- that's how.

Sermon over. Indulge me.

Best wishes to all -- and I haven't thanked Sue lately for doing such a
wonderful job.

Graham F
Subject: RE: FW Fanatics 5/22/96
Date: Thu, 23 May 1996 17:54:32 -0600

Oh well, my story doesn't have a happy ending - the lady who says she 
has a "mint condition featherweight"  finally called me back today, to 
say that she paid $400 for her machine several years ago, and it must be 
worth a lot more than that now - it was obviously already out of my 
price range, so I didn't even go look at it - maybe tomorrow someone 
else will call - (I ran an ad in the paper).  I'll just have my two FW's 
to keep  me company until the next one comes along~  Susie
Date: Thu, 23 May 1996 21:25:43, -0500
Subject: FW Fanatics 5/22/96

This past weekend I picked up a blue toy KAYanEE Sew Master for $42.  
I don't collect these but didn't want to leave it on the shelf!  If 
anyone wants it for that price plus postage just e-mail me.
>Subject: check dates
>Hi everyone!  Love the list.  My turn to tell a story.  My featherweight was
>purchased by my mom when I was a kid and is the machine I learned to sew on.
>When Mom died, my sister took it but never bothered fixing it.  It had not
>worked properly for 11 years or so.  Several years later I wanted a small
>machine for quilt classes and asked sis for it.  She agreed - didn't want to
>sew anyway - why get it fixed.  Well, it wasn't broken - yup - needle was in
>front to back!   It's kept in good condition now and is used fairly often
>and well loved.
>I went to a garage sale in Atlanta, Ga. in 1987 and found the case under a
>table.  Told the lady I had one that came in a case like this and would be
>interested in buying it for daughter to take to college.  No phone call so I
>returned later in the day and asked again.  They had it on the kitchen table
>and were trying to decide what to ask.  It was covered in cobwebs but had no
>rust and had a bunch of feet.  I tried it and it worked but obviously needed
>TLC.  I asked the woman what she wanted and she said $35.00.   I asked if
>she was absolutely sure because....  I never had a chance to finish because
>she read me the riot act about how people wanted everything for nothing and
>it was worth this much to her and she was adament that this was what she was
>going to get.  So....I bought it for $35.00.  I wasn't going to argue.
>Besides it was going to a better place.  
>I have registered both these machines with the survey and finially got
>through to Singer.  She told me that both machines were born on the same day
>Jan. 29, 1957.  I asked her to double check the date because they both have
>anniversary decals.  She still said 1957 but agreed to send me a copy of the
>page in the register that she was looking at.  It came today and says
>1951!!!!!  It also said that our machines have sisters out there somewhere.
>I'd love to know if any on our list have one.  The ones born that day are
>221-1's  and are numbered from A.K. 071321 to A.K. 121320.  The page is #133
>and says Elizabethport  Works on it.  It doesn't say Singer anywhere so I
>guess it's not officially official.  The dates of registry are from Dec. 5,
>1950 to April 26, 1951.  What fun!!!!
>Bye for now.  I'll be listening and learning.
>Regina S
Date: Fri, 24 May 1996 02:02:42 -0700
Subject: Justa question

Sue, want to first say, you are incrredible.......the work that I know goes 
into posting the 
FWF digest.....I can never say thank you too often.

Also wanted to put to the list....for wood cabinets and machine covers, the 
absolute best
thing to use on these to clean them is Howard's Orange Oil, and then to put 
a protective
coat on them, Howard's Orange Oil/Bee's Wax.  I've used these two products 
for years
on my wood furniture, and machine tables and boxes....I would NOT use 
anything else on 
anything I own that is wood!  I swear by it.

I've got my GrGrgrandmother's bed, and sleep in it every nite; it's been 
treated with 
the Howard's product for the 50+ years I've owned it; a friend of mine who 
is a renowned
cabinet maker, marvels at the condition of that bed!  I attribute this to 
the Howard's treatment
I give it every 3-6 months.

Thanks for a wonderful hobby.
Date:         Fri, 24 May 96 10:41:08 EDT
Subject:      Singer Model 6268

My "regular" sewing machine seems to have become psychotic.  She's a
Singer Model 6268 and I have all the Sew Ware Cartridges for her.  One
day a couple of months ago she decided not to zigzag to full width.  She
just "piddled" at about half width on any zigzag stitch I tried. I took
her in and my repairman worked on her.  She came home seemingly OK, then
backslid into her half zigzag ways.  Back to the repairman she went.  The
first time he adjusted her "stitchometre" (well, it sounded something like
that).  The second time, he found and repaired a loose connection in her
single/double needle switch.  He said that her boards all checked out OK.
Last night I sewed zigzag stitches along raw edges of several pieces of
fabric to prepare them for the washer.  I got up and left the machine for
several minutes--leaving the machine "on".  When I came back to pick up
where I'd left off, she started stitching at half width again.  Just out
of the blue!  I turned her off for a few minutes then back on again and
she decided to stitch full width again.
Any ideas?  Mike, we've corresponded about this already.  Well, she's
at it again.  Maybe I should consider another repairman.  I'm in Athens,
Georgia.  Can anyone recommend a good Singer person in the Atlanta area?

Thanks much!
Date: 24 May 96 10:25:00 EDT
Subject: Sewing Machine Fiction, &too long digests

I'm the compiler of the Quilts, Quilting, Quilters and Patchwork in Fiction 
lists which I maintain as a web page to be found at the URL


These two lists--one for children, one for adults--got started from 
discussions on the rec.crafts.textiles.quilting newsgroup, and like 
collecting sewing machines, it's become an addiction.

Now I really don't want to start another list for sewing machine fiction 
 but could CTislander tell me if _Sew Easy to Kill_ has any quilts in 

Another question for you all:  sometimes the digest is so large that my 
mailer truncates the end of the message, kindly telling me how many 
characters it dumped into the cyberspace black hole.  I always worry that 
one of Graham's greatest stories will be one of the messages thus lost.  
Does anyone else have this problem?

Date: Fri, 24 May 1996 17:16:45 -0500
Subject: B. Eldridge automatic /National

     I would like to know if anyone knows anything about my new (BABY!)
Date: Fri, 24 May 1996 20:24:33 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Quick notes

To Jim:  I wouldn't try to fix the "hiccup" in your Model 128 until you
are sure that it's actually broken.  I think there are at least three of
us who have 128s and as I recall, all of our machines "hiccup".  Also, the
younger sibling to my machine which I saw at an antique market last
weekend does indeed "hiccup".  If the glitch in the needle action is all
that's bothering you, I'd let well enough alone.

To Mari:  For which of her three machines is your friend looking for
replacement attachments?? I got a box at a house sale, definitely
top-clamping and NOT for a FW.  Also, given the type of underbraider than
came along, probably for a shuttle machine.  If this sounds like what your
friend could use, e-mail me and I'll list out what's there.

Rosemary:  A Stitch Back in Time, 3815 50th Street, #41, Lubbock, TX
79413; 806-749-0966; 102726@compuserve.com.  Phone or drop Peggy a note
and she can send you a catalog.

Date: Sat, 25 May 1996 01:22:39, -0500
Subject: Singer Packing Crate?

     OOooh!  I found something neat today!  It's a pine plank 27" x 13 1/2"
and almost 3/4" thick.  A 10" high big red S with "Singer Sewing Machines"
written in it, is stenciled on the wood.  Below in black stenciled letters
is "MADE IN U.S.A."  It looks like it may have been the lid or side of a
packing crate for a sewing machine or cabinet.  There is a molding attached
to the outside edges, but although the molding is obviously old wood and
has been there a long time, I'm guessing it was added to make the plank
more of a "framed" sign.   However, the whole thing appears to be too
primitive to have been any kind of advertising sign.
     Singer had a factory here (South Bend, IN)  many years ago.  My
grandfather remembers that one of the reasons for locating the factory here
was the availability of lots of oak in Indiana and Michigan for making the
cabinets.  I don't remember if they also made machines here too.  I know
South Bend has never been mentioned as a location for machine birthdates,
so perhaps it was only the cabinets that were produced here.  At any rate,
it seems to be a reasonable assumption that I found a part of a packing
crate that someone made into a "sign" long ago.
      I did of course bring it home to reside permanently on my sewing room
wall!      (Eat your heart out, Margel!  I finally found something before
you did!  :)
Date: Sat, 25 May 1996 01:14:05 -0700
Subject: Help needed

Just a few quick questions someone just might have some answers for.

I have an old Singer machine that my mother gave me.  I have looked for 
information on the net and this is the only reference I get.  

The only markings I can find are as follows:

plate on front    AF452589
markings on bottom   simanco usa

I also have a button holer 121795 and zig zag 160620 as well as other 
odds and ends.  

Can you suggest any books or net references for value and pictures?

I just thought of another question.  I also have a needle display case 
from The Boye Needle Co. with a lot of good stuff inside.  Any reference 
ideas for value and pictures?

Thank you for your time,

Karen F
Date: Sat, 25 May 1996 10:12:46 -0400
Subject: Serial No.

Can you please tell me the age of my Featherweight?

Serial NO.  AJ 909459

Thank you so much for your help.

Eileen S
Date: 25 May 96 14:05:25 EDT
Subject: post

Hi All...

First  and  formost:  for  Sue T and family - Connie's and my condolences to 
you and yours...

For  Susan  M...  RE:  plastic  bobbins  -  what happened to the dozen 
*metal* bobbins I sent you last week?

RE:  Singer motors... Actually, the three FWs we have here have motors rated 
from 25-60 cycles (hertz) &DC!

For  All:  I  received  the flyer on the Featherweight Plus as advertised in 
the June issue of QNL... It's a Singer Model 324. I'll post the specs:
- Lightweight &Compact, the Featherweight weighs only 10 lbs.
- Sews a Durable straight stitch, zigzag, mending stitch and blind hem.  
    Perfect for repairs, construction, alterations, or embroidery work.
- Uses standard sewing machine accessories.
- Fulley-Enclosed Motor keeps out dust. No exposed belts or pulleys to 
    pinch fingers.
- High Lift Presser Bar Lifter allows thick seams and fabrics to fit under 
    presser foot.
- Universal Pressure System adjusts to fabric thicknesses.
- Built-In Carrying Handle makes the Featherweight Plus even easier to 
- Built-In Storage Area keeps accessories handy.
- Handy Free Arm makes it easy to sew cuffs, sleeves and waistbands. 
    Converts easily back to flat surface sewing
- Dust Cover protects machine when not in use.
- Buttonholes and Darning made easy with the basic zigzag stitch.

The picture of the machine looks like a Baby Lock but with squarer corners.

Regards,  Chris(tian) V
Date: 25 May 96 15:52:05 EDT
Subject: Contribution

To Sherri

The Y series was the last that Singer used with numbers over one million --
after that they changed the prefix every 999,999 machines. The Y series was 
at Clydebank where your friend's machine was made between December 1920 and
October 1935. During that time 10 million machines were produced using the Y
prefix. 15 years into 10 million goes roughly 666,666 machines per year. My
arithmetic suggests that the machine was therefore made during the last year of
the period ie 1934 or 35.Versions of the 15 K were produced in Scotland from
1910 right up to 1964.

Graham F
Date: 25 May 96 15:53:34 EDT
Subject: Contribution 17

True story number seventeen

You have FW Fanatic Henrietta Clews to thank for this one. She asked how I got
so interested on old machinery, I started to answer her e-mail and realised
another true story was on the way

My love of ancient machines goes back nearly 25 years. I was sick with 'flu and
being very sorry for myself (you might have noticed that men are pretty good at
this). Maggie, my SO (we are still together) is not the most patient of souls
and eventually walked out of the apartment in a desperate attempt to find
something to take my mind off being totally bored.

I think she was headed to buy magazines but her route took her past a thrift
store in which she spied an old typewriter looking very sad and uncared for.
She knew that I prefered an old-fashioned manual machine to the, then,
new-fangled electric varities, and  called into the shop to buy it as a joke.
When she asked how much it was , the assistant appologised and said that it
really shouldn't be there because it was broken and could not be fixed.
"Perfect," said Maggie, "I'll take it."
She came back with the machine, dropped it dramatically on the bed and said;
Here you are, fix this!"
Twenty plus years later I'm still fixing. All that journalistic training and
experience down the tubes.
I blame Maggie of course for converting a scribe on his way to his first
Pulitzer into a creature besoted by what most consider junk.
But, between you and I, there's no way I'd trade back.

Graham F
Date: Thu, 23 May 1996 13:39:49 -0700
Subject: Eureka Springs ect...

Hello FW Fanatics,

I just want to add that Eureka Springs, Arkansas is a beautiful town and a
quilting hot spot. My sister lives just over the border in Oklahoma so
every time I am in the vicinity I insist on a side trip to this town. I
can't say about the aging 60's types but the shops are a treat. Lots of
quilts! The town is built on some hills, many of the houses are the
gingerbread victorian type. Lovingly restored or fixed up into  B&B Inns.

If you are ever in Northern California, stop in and check out Ferndale.
(Which is just south of Eureka on 101) it is not as big as Eureka Springs,
but all of the shops have  handcrafted items for sale- not as many quilts
as in Arkansas but shops worth checking out regardless. (I can attest to
the 60's type in this town. I used to live in the area.) Lots of
gingerbread Victorian era houses - Beautiful beaches at end of the road
(Centerville beach) and only a few miles to where the Eel river flows into
the Pacific. There used to be covered bridges out towards Petrolia and east
of Eureka on Elk Creek. Then there are the Redwoods.....

Date: Sat, 25 May 1996 19:54:41 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: SW Addict

Hello all you FW Fanatics,

I went to several yard sales and antiques shops this weekend.  Not looking
for anything in peticular, just shopping.  I did fine several items that I
will list below and I did purchase a few items.  I have been "reading the
mail" for about 6 to 8 weeks now and I am getting more and more infected
with the sw bug day by day.  I just purchased my wife a Viking #1 with all
the attachments about 2 months ago so she stays busy sewing on her quilts.
But she is all ways ready to go old machine shoping. HA HA.  I already have
a FW that belong to my mother.  My dad bought it for her in around 1953 with
the fold up card table and attachments.  Mom pasted away a few years ago and
I have the machine over here with me.  My wife claims it but my to daughters
want it to.  I might stumble across another one some day.  I also have a
singer model 66, made March 1919 according to Singer.  Boy! I hate them new
computerized telephone answering machine's.  I wish some times they said;
"Press 9 to cause this machine to self destruct".

1.  I purchase a small blue metal box with sewing attachments in it.  The
box says: Accessories, Sewing Machine on it.  In side the box are a ruffler
and feet for a sewing machine.  All Labeled Greist.  $5.00

2.  I purchase, at a yard sale, a "Davis" treadle sewing machine in poor
condition.  I hope to clean it up and get it working.  I can find no serial
number on it at all.  Can someone clue me in on where I should be looking.
It has a shuttle instead of a bobbin.  It has a tension disks in the middle
of the machine.  On top of the arm and in line with it.  It has a stitch
length adjuster on the inside of the head.  It as no feed dogs.  The needle
appears to go down and move back to advance the fabric.  If anyone has any
information on this machine, book, picture, threading instructions, etc.  I
would be happy to hear from you.  I will pay for copying cost and mailing of
any materials.  $50.00

3.  I found a singer treadle sewing machine in a cabinet.  When you closed
all the doors on the cabinet you could not tell it was a sewing machine.  I
wrote down the serial number and will call Singer on Tuesday and see when it
was made.  I might go back and get that one, if I can get a better deal.

4.  I found a plastic singer toy sewing machine, battery operated.  $125.00,
I did not buy it.  I found a singer toy sewing machine, AC operated. $75.00,
I did not buy it either.

5.  I found a Singer Monogramming attachment for a slant shank sewing
machine.  The manual was dated 1969.  $25.00  I did not buy it.

6.  I found a Singer 321K sewing machine with "Made in Great Britain" on it.
$50.00 with one cam.  I did not buy it.

I met one of those people who breaks up the treadle sewing machines for the
metal stands.  I got there just as he finishes breaking up a "White" treadle
machine.  He says the metal base is worth more than the whole machine.  he
gave me the wooden pieces and put the stand on display.  I never saw the
head.  Some times I wish I could put some people out of my misery.

Well, I have rambled long enough so let me rest my fingers.  


Love this list and everyone on it.  Keep up the good work.


Keep those stories comming.  Sometimes all you can do is sit back and laugh
it life.  When I go into a "antique" store I don't even ask to look at the
sewing machines, because most people have a very inflated idea of what they
are worth.

Chris V :

Do you have parts for the treadle bases?  My singer needs two of the wheels
that  go on the bottom and the pins for them.  I can not seem to find them

You all have a good day and Happy Hunting.  TTFN   David  (:D
Subject: Royal sewing machine
Date: Sat, 25 May 1996 18:01:47 -0600

Has anyone heard of a Royal sewing machine?  If so, let me know - TIA  Susie
Subject: First Antique SM Purchase
Date: Sat, 25 May 1996 20:07:47 -0400

This is the first time posting for me.  Just had to tell about my first 
antique SM purchase from a weekend estate tag sale.  It's a 66-8 Singer, 
SN#AF127706 (dates 1938) in its wooden Singer 41 cabinet with a storage 
seat bench.  It's in good shape &has a matt black finish (why isn't it 
shiny?) but very pretty metal scrollwork on left side and on a round 
disc in the back. Included was instruction book, green Singer 
buttonholer snap box with its templates plus another slide-opening box 
containing 4 extra sizes of buttonhole templates. Also had a Singer box 
full of the accessories listed in the instruction book and oil can 
attached under the cabinet. The cost was $50.  Was this a good price?  
Singer shop in town quoted a cleaning and oiling charge of $60.  Is this 
a job better left to the repair person or can I do it myself?  Enjoy 
everyone's listings.
Thanks.     JW

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