Featherweight Fanatics Archives

May 1996

Sunday, May 5th - Saturday, May 11th

Date: Sun, 05 May 1996 16:41:45 +1000
Subject: Web site pictures

Regarding identifying machines using a web page.  There are already some
sites that have some of the pictures people are looking for.
Melissa Bishop's Tangled Threads Antique Sewing Machine FAQ at 
has some pictures of old machines and will be getting more.

The following machines photographed on my page Doing the Block at
Singers 66, 201k, 206k, 222k, Ward Bros treadle head, White Vibrator hand
crank and will be adding Singers 185k, 306k, and a hand crank my brother has
bought for me, Jones hand crank and New Home hand crank when I can get them
cleaned up.
I use a Quicktake camera  and take lots of shots so I can get as clear an
image as possible, also closeups.  I try to keep the jpg size down without
losing too much detail.  Hope this can be of use to you.  I know I'd love to
see what a 301 looks like, I've been told by a Singer dealer that they
weren't sold in Australia and it's taken me ages reading all the postings to
get a mental image of one.

Date: Sun, 5 May 1996 12:46:29 GMT
Subject: cabinets

To Kolleen, 
         I'd have to agree that it's a shame to seperate an old machine
from it's cabinet. We all know what probably happens to the poor orphans
after that. I can understand if the head is in terribly bad shape maybe,
but then the cabinet probably is too. I'll bet there are more headless
cabinets out there than complete ones. Thats what I've seen in my
experience anyway. 
 I was wondering if anyone of you might be interested in some machines I've
collected.After running my ad in the paper can you believe I'm still
getting calls! I go to look at another cabinet model tomorrow. I can't turn
these away when they are in good shape, especially when pretty and clean. I
wish some people would call with portables but so far no good.I havn't
picked up anything so far I wouldn't keep myself, but if this continues
I'll run out of room in notime.I realize the shipping might be a problem
but as I collect and clean I'll post what I have. Let me know if your
interested. As to fws I havn't seen one yet. Hard to believe but true.I
might have a hook on 2 more treadles next week really cheep and supposedly
no finishing work needed on the cabinets. We'll see..........Maybe an
antique sewing machine and quilt show and sale in the fall. That would be
             Later Maggie
Date:        Sun, 05 May 1996 09:20:16 CDT
Subject: Spartan?

Hi all.
Dh and I went to the What Cheer flea market yesterdayand Dh spotted a
301 case.  When he looked inside, he saw a Spartan machine.  The 301
case had been rigged to accomodate the smaller spartan bymeans of a
piece of metal attached with screws to one side of the case which
provided a place for extra bobbins and needles with a shelf for a griest
buttonholer.  The machine looked great, except for a few scratches on
the bed.  No manual or attachments and the basse is a bit cracked.  When
I plugged it in, it sewed great right away.  Quiet, smooth, and fast.  I
had never seen a spartan before and didn't realize it was a Singer until
I saw a decal on the inside of the arm that said "singer Manufacturing
Company Great Britian". There was no Singer seal.  Does anyone have a
manual they could copy for me?  I'd be glad to pay photocopying and
postage costs in money or fabric or whatever.
I'm also curious about whether any of you have one of these beauties and
what you think of it.  Well, I guess I should amend that to "how many of
you have one (or more!) given the way some of us seek out and acquire
these wonderful older machines.

    Grateful for anyhelp you can give me.  Michele 

  Ohhh-I almost forgot.  Dh surprised me with a toy singer he bought
yesterday while I was lookingat something else.  It is a tan and cream
plastic singer sewhandy with a lock on orange case.  Sept 12, l962 is
stampled inside the case.  It looks a lot like my 403. The toy is
electric and really zooms.  Does anyone have one of these babies?
Date: 05 May 96 11:42:17 EDT
Subject: Antique Sewing Mach.

Hi  all...  Thought some of you might be interested in a book that 
we've  started carrying here at the shop. "Antique American Sewing 
Machines  - A Value Guide" by James W. Slaten. Catalog # AASM, 256 
pages, softbound, many B/W photos, $24.95 plus $2 SH.

This   interesting  book  is  both  an  identification  guide  and 
valuation   reference   that  covers  US  machines  from  1842  (a 
Greenough)  through  the  famous Singer 221 - Featherweight. There 
are  pictures and company profiles for every 19th and 20th century 
American  sewing  machine  company,  as  well  as a history of the 
sewing  machine in America. Especially helpful is a reference that 
identifies  the  manufacturer  of  a  machine that might have been 
sold  under a 'relabeled' name. For example, the "Minnesota" brand 
of  machines  were  made  by  the  Davis,  Standard,  or  New Home 
companies  and  sold  through Sears and other major retail outlets 
(Much   the   same   as   Whirlpool's   manufacture   of   Kenmore 
appliances)...  Chris 
Date: Sun,  5 May 1996 12:36:45, -0500
Subject: World Fairs and Stuff for Sale

Hi All,
   Went antiquing yesterday and found a souvenir Singercraft Guide from the
1934 worlds fair.  Inside the box is a special souvenir rug design transfer
pattern with planets on it and another small pattern that looks as if it
was for practice.  The transfer patterns were printed by a company called
Walkers Transfers of Irvington, NJ.  I now have Singer souvenirs of the
Colombian, Pan-American, Louisiana Purchase, and Century of Progress
Expositions.  Anyone else like Singers world fair stuff?

   While I was out I saw the following which I either already had or didn't
want but will go back and pick up if anyone is interested:

1) Three sets of the Singer Sewing Library by Mary Brooks Pickens.   One
had a red sleeve and the other two were black.   The sleeves weren't very
good but I think the books were OK.  Each set was priced the same at $20.00.

2) Two buttonholers in egg cases, one pink (slant) and one blue (low shank)
that looked complete and in good condition.  They were also priced at $20.00.

3) Original instruction books as follows:

   a) Model 115 dated May 1915 - really good condition $10.00.

   b) Model 127 and 128 dated April 1921 - good condition $10.00.  Is for
     treadle since there is no mention of an electric motor.

   c) Model 99-13 dated rev 239 - generally good condition but not as nice
      as the two above $10.00.

   d) Model 66 dated Revised January 1929 - cover is faded and has scotch
     tape on the fold.  It is slightly oily but is complete $5.00.

   e) Model 15-91 dated July 1933 - scotch tape on cover where it folds but
       is complete and the insides are good $10.00.

   f) Model 66 dated May 1916 - complete but sort of messed up.  I think at
       one time there had been the old style scotch tape on the fold of the
      cover which has disappeared but left residue since a lot of the pages
      are almost clear at the fold and some are loose.  It is complete and
     I wouldn't mention it except that it is for the machine where the
  feet attach to the presser bar by having the screw on the rear rather
  than the side and along with it is a fairly complete set of
attachments in a green Singer box - tucker, ruffler, binder,
adjustable hemmer, and quilting foot $20.00.

  I think I saw the 201 you bought at Paducah in one of the antique shops.
I know it was gone Sun afternoon.  Can't believe you got it home on a bus.
If it's the one I saw I think it will clean up nicely.  I was tempted but
how many 201's can one person have?  They don't store as easily as a 
Date: Sun, 5 May 1996 09:54:19 -0700
Subject: Toy Sewing Machine


sewing machine that is labeled Casige Electric.  It seems in pretty 
nice shape.  Can anyone tell me more about this machine?
Date: Sun, 05 May 1996 11:58:26 -0500
Subject: "new" featherweights

I posted this a couple of months ago, but the issue seems to be back!

I saw one of the 'new' featherweights while visiting in NewJersey in March.  It 
looks just like a FW,
and had "Singer Classic" printed across the front.  1950's scrolling and face 
plate .  1989 Singer 
inspection sticker under base.  Priced at $250.  the salesman wandered by, and 
said, what do you 
think?  I replied that it looked a lot like a FW.  he said, yes, but it sews 
like CR*P!

I had several other fanatics mail me similar tales!  buyer beware!

I also think a web page with pics of our lovely old machines would be great! 
Claudette, I tried to
'mail you, but it kept coming back to me...

If you find out about the Fanatics Anonymous, I think my husband needs to go, 
too!  he hasn't
found any treasures for two weeks, and is getting rather depressed!

And someone tell my why the 301/301a is so much harder to find than a 
featherweight? (no, i don't
want to buy one, I have to earn it :)

Graham, let us know about your books, we might want to buy them if they have 
stories in them!
and you think the accents you heard on your tour were bad, you should hear some 
of my neighbors!
Even I can't understand them!

Date: 05 May 96 15:04:37 EDT
Subject: Various

Hi all...

For  Sheri  B , Claudette, Betty R , Terri Ja , Laurie 
E,  and  others...  The book we carry "Antique American Sewing 
Machines"  has  pictures  of most (all?) of Singer's machines from 
the  Perpendicular  Action"  (1851)  to the Featherweight. And all 
other   US   manufacturers   as  well...  $24.95  +  $2  SH,  USA. 
(International ok, but additional SH).

For  Judy  H ...  Sorry  about the damage on the FW. The Bobbin 
Winder is $21.95 plus $3 S/H.

For  Caryl  E...  We  have  copies  of  the Featherweight 
Service      Manual,      (which     details     the     tensioner 
disassembly/reassembly) for $8 + $1 SH.

For  Amber  F...  According to the Singer Service Manual for 
the  127/128,  the 128-13 was a motorized version of the 128-3. It 
has  a spoked handwheel, a thread cutter, a shuttle ejector, and a 
needle  thread  take-up  cover. It was available in two finishes - 
#318  (Colored)  or  #485 (Gilt). The manual lists the differences 
and  finish  options  for  all  models  of  the 127 and 128 series 
machines.  A  copy  of the manual is available from us for $8 + $2 
SH to Canada...

Chris  (tian)  V 
Subject: photos on web page
Date: Sat, 04 May 1996 21:34:22 -0400

To the person who was thinking of putting photos on a web page to help
us ID machines: I think it would be absolutely wonderful!

Lois F 
Date: 05 May 96 15:05:20 EDT
Subject: update

*                             Sewing Machine Books                          *
*       Antique American Sewing Machines - A Value Guide        $24.95+$2SH *
*       Featherweight 221 - Nancy Johnson-Srebro, 1st. ed.      $ 6.95+$1SH *
*                     Available Singer Manuals (copies)                     *
*       Model 221 Service Manual, includes parts charts         $8          *
*       Model 27, 28, 127, 128 Service Manual, w/ parts charts  $8          *
*       Model 301 Adjuster's Manual, w/ parts charts            $8          *
*       Series 15- Service Manual w/ parts charts               $8          *
*       Model 201 - 1200 Service Manual w/ parts charts         $8          *
*       Series 66, 99, &185 Service Manual w/ parts charts     $6          *
*       Add $1 for SH for 1st manual, $0.50 each addl' manual               *
*                     We carry parts for these machines...                  *
*  Chris 
Date: Sun, 5 May 1996 13:02:13 +0000
Subject: Re:My "NEW" Singer 15-91/1946

Hi everyone!
   I'm new to FW Fanatics. Two weeks ago I needed to take my zigzag 
in to get the spring replaced that I broke off of the tension knob. I 
took it to Jim Sorrel who does machine servicing and new &used 
machines. I just needed my machine fixed! 

   I go in there and he's talking with another lady, so I sit my 
machine down and look around. My eyes came upon this beautiful old 
Singer! It's black, gold scroll in vine &flower along the base. All 
silver scroll down the face. It's in a wood case. With it's old key. 
The case is also beautiful with a couple of rub marks on it. The case 
tapers to the top and the top is curved. Is this a bentwood case?
 There's a hinge thing on the inside of the case where I believe the oil
 can is to go, if I had one.
Don't you know this machine followed me home!!

   I went into the FW Fanatic's Home page and Gail P,
 where I found Dale P number and the Singer number
. I called Singer, my serial number is AG729865. Singer said it was born
 6 June'46. The very nice lady at Customer Relations gave me the part
 number for the manual. Jim said he was going to get me a manual.
 I left a message to see if he had and waiting for him to call back I made
 a few more phone calls. I called Singer Dealer here in town who assured
 me she could get me a manual for $29.95. Is this a book I ask?
 No, she says it's xeroxed copy of the original manual. I didn't have her order 
 I talked to Dale P and he told me that he had a couple of manuals for 
different 15- Singers. I didn't know what my - was. 

   Jim called me back that afternoon and said my machine was a Class 
15-91 model. Yes, he was getting me a manual. How much I wanted to 
know! He said he was giving it to me since I bought the machine. I 
told him about the $29.95. We hung up so he could call his supplier. 
Called me right back and said he can get the copy of the manual for 
$3.50 and was giving it to me. 
   I called Dale P back and gave him my 15-91 and yes he had 
the original manual which I bought from him. I'll use the xeroxed and 
air seal the original. I also bought the attachments from him. Plus I 
bought the Patchwork foot he sells. He told me that my Little Foot 
wouldn't cover the feed dogs on my new Singer. I'm glad I ordered his 
foot because my little foot doesn't cover the left side of the dog 

   I got may xeroxed manual from Jim on Friday. I'm very happy. The 
manual shows how to lower the dog feet, which back then was used to 
darn and embroidery. I'll use it to free motion quilt. This machine 
does reverse too. I know many of you are old hands at this but I 
think this is the neatest thing since toilet paper!!

   I went to the Library here on Monday to get books on vintage 
sewing machines. I've been bitten now by the bug!! The library did 
not have 1 book. There also was nothing about Singer history. 

   RE: Quilting Today, I agree, with Kolleen. It hurts to see part of 
our history destroyed like this. 

To Claudette: I like the idea of the page on the internet. I'll send 
a copy of my beauty that I named "Julie" because she's such a jewel!

  This too, is one of the good things!! This list is wonderful. You 
have so much knowledge and are so willing to give and share of it!!

   I have a question: On my Singer Julie, the name Singer 
Manufacturing Co is in gold across the top, slightly raised. There 
are 3 other places that the name Singer is placed in gold. My 
question is why? Was Singer having an identity crisis? Or what? If 
any one can give me more info on my Singer Julie, I'd love it!!

   Jim has a FW table, in wood that he's asking $200.

Thank you,
"wouldn't it be nice if common sense were common?" 
Date: 05 May 96 16:16:19 EDT
Subject: Contribution

Julie re 1935 Singer
You were right to be suspicious of what Singer told you, the EX series was used
from July 1964 to October 1966. Numbers went to 999,999 before the next prefix
was used so we can guess yours was made a little after the center point of the
two dates.

Jeananne, Caryl, Beryl and others re my true stories
Thanks for the kind remarks but I haven't really missed my calling -- I was a
journalist for 20 years before getting in this collecting business.

 Caryl, Becky and many others re living in California
OK, points taken and absorbed  but right now in London it's raining, cold with
no chance of improvement for weeks and California, which I know well, is very
tempting despite the problems

To Voila re Harris SM
Your Harris isn't really a Harris at all. WJ Harris who had offices in The Old
Kent Road in South London was simply an importer of cheap German-made machines.
Because there was a general reluctance to buy such machines many agents called
themselves manufacturers and Harris was one such case. Without seeing a picture
of the machine I couldn't tell you which of a score of German factories 

Kevin re very, very old Singer.
Will need to know serial number to help you here or even a photograph for a 100
per-cent identification

To Bob
I know for sure that Maggie Snell has a good few of the toy machines you list
currently available. e-mail at 100644.3142@compuserve.com

To all
I see that of the past three true stories posted, only one made it in complete
form. Will remedy this in the next couple of days.

Graham F 
Date: Sun, 5 May 1996 14:04:31 -0700
Subject: Two new FW - Garage Sale Finds

Dear fellow FW bargin lookers, don't give up.  I never thought I'd find a FW
for a bargin price but yesterday I found two.  My dear children, both
teenagers, were in charge of our 4-H groups garage sale.  So we get up very
early for a Sat. morning, usually I like to sleep in a little.  I get all my
sewing mess off my card tables, load up the car and we're off the the best
site in our small town for a garage sale.  Well we are setting up and our
leader Dorothy shows up with stuff and a large table to use when what do I
spy but two small cases that do I dare hope look like FW cases.  Over I go
to check it out, open one up, and find myself screeming who brought the
sewing machines.

Well to make a long story short, the 4-H sewing group at one time, long ago
used these two FW to sew with, and they hadn't been used in many years and
Dorothy decided to get rid of them because "we don't have a sewing group any
more and anyway who wants to learn to sew on such old machines the kids want
to learn the new machines with all the different stiches."  So I asked the
important question, "how much" , Dorothy answeres $10. And then being the
honest person I am say I'll give you $25 and you know they are worth a lot
more.  I know says she but they havn't been used in a very long time and
you'll have to get them serviced, so $25 each is what the club will take.
Into my car they go, and all morning all I can think about is my new FW's
sitting in my car.

Later when things quiet down I take them out to look and see what I really
bought.  First one is a AE, AE303799, case in good shape, handle comming
apart.  Lots of attachments, a key, no manual, machine in good shape, the
gold a little worn in front from use.  The second machine is a AM, AM678736,
case in good shape, one extra foot, no manual, no key, gold not worn much at
all.  Havn't had time to plug them in yet but will later on today.  So those
of you who wonder when you'll find those FW bargins, keep looking, don't
give up because you never know where or when you'll find one or two like I did.

Liz F 
Date: Sun, 5 May 1996 21:22:47 GMT
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 5/4/96

To Lydia: Thanks for the advice, I'll call singer and see if they'll send
me a manual for the 128. I have a 27 model manual and it looks to be the
same type so maybe that will help. My 27 is in the garage waiting for a
proper burial I think.This machine is unsalvagable(hope thats correct).Is
missing the shuttle so I didn't  
even know what it looked like.The New Victory shuttle looks pretty much the
same.I'll check it out tonight if I have the energy.Thanks for keeping eye
out for the shuttle but it luckily came with one. 
Went to my local antique shop yesterday for my weekly peace and quiet. They
had a nice old wood foldout sewing box in and it was full of stuff. Asked
if I could peak through it, and found a carved bone thimble holder in the
shape of an acorn with thimble made of the same inside.I got really excited
as I like all the old sewing accessories from the past, just never get to
find any. The shop owner was really happy about my find and when I found
some Singer needles in the old envelopes she GAVE them to me! She must have
been in a grateful mood because before I left she went 
to her treadle cabinet and gave me some ancient packet of needles from
Germany from 1862. That thimble must be worth plenty! 
--Mom told me "You never get anything staying home". 
Maggie A 
Date: Sun, 5 May 1996 18:53:51 -0400
Subject: Need info Model 66

Though I have just become a FWF, I still enjoy hunting for antigue sewing
I am learning right now. So please be patient. I have just purchased a old
singer model 66. I called singer for the some info. This machine was born
10/25/27. It's in the original cabinet.
I am curious, I have been hearing alot about model 66.
Can anyone tell me if this is a collectors item? The machine is in good
working condition. I purchased it from the original owner that sewed her
daughters christening dress on it. Her daughter who is now in her 50's. I
think that is so neat.
I also have 2 Featherweights. One is in mint condition, case and all.
The other is in good condition, but no case. I purchased it in a thrift store
for $100.
I am in search for the fw model 221k7 and of course model 222.

Thanking You in advance,
Date: Sun, 5 May 1996 18:27:51 -0500
Subject: Flea Market find

        Hi! this is Sew J  writing on my Mom's computer.  I've
gone "home" to the parents for the week.  In our family quality bonding
time is spent antiquing.  So we went to the local monthly flea market held
at the State Fair grounds.  We all broke and went in different directions.
When we meet in the isles, we passed information on where items of interest
to others were to be found.  Mom found it first and sent me to give it a
look see.
        My new "baby" is a Singer with lovely gold floral decals and red
and green details.  I don't have my reference stuff here, so I don't know
what model it is.  The SN is G9641368.  There's some paint missing from the
leading edge of the table.  The decals are worn in three places.  Where the
fabric feeds into the needle, where your hand would rest on the front edge,
and on the back edge where your hand would rub on it's way to raise and
lower the presser foot.  It has been electricfied with a Unirversal moter,
the foot pedal is one of those black squarish things, looks to be 40's or
50's and never used. It's in a case that Mom and I date at around the 40's.
No extra's other than a second bobbin.  The light mounted on the moter is
        SO......  Any one know what kind it might be??  I'll be looking for
a manual or xerox for it when I figure out what it is.
        OH and this beauty only set me back $25.

Date: Sun, 5 May 1996 19:50:35 -0400
Subject: Destruction of old treadles

Hi All!

I have just finished reading the post from Kolleen.  I too,  hate it when
people take these old treadles and use them for something other than what
they were intened to be used for.  I sew on mine regularly and it breaks my
heart when I see these "TV stands" and drawers hanging on the wall w/silk
flowers in them.  Today at an antique show, one booth had several old treadle
cabinet drawers.  He was putting 2 drawers together w/2 more on top and then
slapping on a piece of wood for a top.  He called them sewing boxes.
I've seen the heads at gargage sales labeled as boat anchors (admittingly
they are heavy babies).  There was a nice old Wheeler-Wilson at the local
flea market.  I wanted to buy it, but I thought maybe I should cool it for a
while since I've aquired 3 in 1 month.   Now I find out someone bought it
just for the drawers.  ARGHHH.  If I'd known, I would have rescued it!
  Never  have I heard of someone cutting the hole larger to accomadate a new
machine.  What's wrong with pumping the foot pedal?  I'll bet I've got the
strongest leg in town!  Being a relatively new owner of the FW  I have not
yet had a chance to compare the sewing when piecing together my quilts.  I
know though, nothing can stop on a dime like a treadle.    Please...give me
time on the FW, I know I will love it too.

Terri J 
Date: Sun, 5 May 1996 18:16:26 -0600
Subject: Singer 201

Although I love this list and love Featherweights, I am not into collecting
machines.  My DH doesn't understand my sewing hobby, much less collecting
machines (and I really don't have the room).  I want to find a reasonable
Featherweight for my daughter so I was looking in the local paper at yard
sales and spotted "old Singer" for sale.  I went ot check it out, and it
turned out to be a 201.  Since I am pretty ignorant about these machines, I
would like advice from anyone about it (probably has been sold), but it
would still be interesting to know.  The machine itself appeared to be in
good shape as far as finish and the gold detail work.  The wheel turned
freely.  I didn't check out the bobbin case.  It needed a belt and the
electrical cord.  It was in a cabinet that wasn't anything special and
needed refinishing badly.  She was asking $15.  I told a friend about it and
she seemed interested, but since I didn't really know what I was talking
about, I couldn't advise her.  Please, somebody let me know if this would
have been a good deal.  I'm sure a cord and belt can be found.  Mostly just
curious.  It will probably be one of those things that eats at me.  Oh, yes,
it had the manual, which was in like-new condition and several attachments
in one of the drawers.  

Mary Sue 
Date: Sun, 5 May 1996 19:33:15 -0600
Subject: Singer 201

Hi everyone,

A few minutes ago I sent a message about this 201 that I found at a garage
sale.  Did I forget to mention that the lady wanted $15 for it.  Should I
run back and get it?

Mary Sue 
Date: Mon, 6 May 1996 10:06:28 -0400
Subject: Book

I would like a manual to go wth my 127, now that I know what it is.  It
came with a booklet for a round bobbin machine and I knew immediately that
this was not one of those.  That book found a good home, though.

Date: Mon, 06 May 1996 10:44:00 -0400
Subject: Go Kolleen

I dislike seeing perfectly good treadles trashed to make furniture also.  My
contribution is to let other sewing machine collectors know about every
machine I see that I cannot personally bring home, and bring those in that I
can until their final owner shows up to claim them. 

Date:          Mon, 6 May 1996 10:53:08 +0000
Subject:       Re: FW Fanatics 5/4/96

Hi everybody - if this message appears more than once, forgive me, it 
keeps getting bounced back. I'm going to try once more.
I need help identifying my treadle machine - and Graham I would also 
love to purchase a book to identify machines - put me on your list. 
Anyway, a couple of months ago I called Singer and they told me my 
treadle was a model 115. Well I received the manual and the machine 
pictured on the front is nothing like my treadle! Mine seems much 
more primitive than the 115 pictured, the tension knob and take up 
leaver are at the back left end, and there are no numbers on it. The 
decals are just wings, my DH says they look like a phoenix. I think 
the stitch length knob is just a screw in lever, also no numbers. If 
anyone can help, or you need more details, just e-mail me privately. 
I also have scanning capabilities if that might help. 
Nancy D. 
Date: Mon, 6 May 1996 09:48:26 -0600
Subject: Sewmor

I know that I am getting senile.  I can only think of one thing at a time!
Reference my post yesterday about the Singer 201 at the yard sale.  The lady
also had a Sewmor in a ratty cabinet.  I had never seen one or heard of one.
I didn't pay much attention to is as I was looking at the 201.  (I was also
on crutches so didn't spend a great deal of time.)  Anyway, as I was reading
the posts this weekend, I saw mention of a Sewmor.  Can anyone fill me in on
this one?

Mary Sue 
Date: Mon, 6 May 1996 10:47:03 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: Sticky Gears

Hello All,

I have been resurrecting a 401 (some of you are waiting for me to get 
pricing on some "sewing dealer" 401's and Rocketeers- this is NOT one of 
those machines!).

At first inspection, the machine appeared immaculately clean, so I oiled and 
lubed the gears per spec.  When I tried to sew, the machine ran VERY 
slow, but after sever brief attempts, gradually loosened up and began to 
run faster.  This process has had to be repeated several times.  A bad 
foot switch or too-close fitting gears would prevent the machine from 
ever getting up to full speed, so I'm a little stumped as to what could 
be causing this mechanical arthritis.  Hava any of you encountered this 
on any other all-gear machines?

Date: Mon, 06 May 1996 12:47:21 -0400
Subject: ?201

Dear Mary Sue:
Drive . . .do not run or walk. . .back to that yard sale.  If in 
fact that is a 201, it is a gear driven machine and does not 
need a belt.  Anyway just the manual and attachments are worth 
the price she wanted ( $15.)  Good luck.
Date: Mon, 6 May 1996 10:45:52 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: FW's For Sale

	Here is the updated list of Featherweights as of 5-6-96.

AE  (1936)  Machine is in very good condition, a few pin scratches and 
blemishes on the bed, but otherwise great. Old tension, no numbers, 
scrolled faceplate, just serviced by the mechanic, has new light. Case 
is not that great, one latch needs repair and it also needs a new handle. 
The case did take a beating on this machine, but machine looks wonderful. 
No attachments, copy of manual. $395.

AE (1938) Mint condition, attachments, copy of manual, case. $550
AG - Case Manual, some attachments, even wear $375.
AJ - Case, Manual, some attachments even wear $360.
AL - Case, Manual, some attachments, even wear $450
AM - Great Condition both machine and case, manual, attachments, eqyptian 
gold stenciling. $510
AK - Mint Condion, Case, Manual, Attachments, $550.
	An assortment of AJ's and AL's that I will detail later in the 
week for $450.
White FW Motor - $100.

   Price for shipping, handling, insurance, and tracking is $30. If you 
have further questions on the machines feel free to email me or phone  Zsux 
Date: Mon, 06 May 1996 11:11:39 -0700
Subject: YIPPEE!!!  I got a Featherweight!

Hi to everyone!  Yes it is true...this list *will* turn you into a sewing 
machine junky!  My husband is now proficient at recognizing a sewing 
machine across 50 feet of jumbled stuff in thrift and antiques stores.  
But best of all, he found me a featherweight!

Start at the beginning?  Well, ok.  I originally joined this list after 
buying a beautiful 99k hand crank for $40.  And she is still lovely.  But 
since I am a quilter...and since this list gave me the lust (yes, LUST) 
for a Featherweight, I have been looking locally as best I could in all 
the usual places..to no avail.

My DH and I usually attend the Renaissance Pleasure Faire this time of 
year (we were hand-fasted there a few years ago &subsequently got 
married), and this year was no exception.  But this year we went with a 
group and camped near the Faire at a KOA.  I was somewhat subdued at 
Faire since it was very hot..and I didn't want to squander my money on 
trinkets and such.  My husband was well aware of my reluctance to 
spend..which actually caused him a little concern.    But when I 
suggested that since we were within 30 miles of where I had purchased the 
99k that we Featherweight shop instead of going to Faire on Sunday, he 
realized thathe need not worry about my (temporary) frugality.

We hit every antique shop from Beaumont (where the Pomona Fwy[60] and the 
San Bearnardino Fwy [10] meet back to Redlands.  There was one very sad 
and badly scratched fw in Beaumont, but the $400 price tag was about $150 
too much for the condition of the case and the severe scratching on the 
machine - maybe a 4 to 5 on Grahams scale.  Since they wouldn't come down 
in price, we searched on.  We saw a beautiful 201 with attachments and 
lovely table for $175, several treadle machines priced from $175 to $500 
and *finally* we stopped in a small mall in Redlands and found IT.  

Yes my new wonderful Featherweight (serical AK58872, mfg. date 12/31/51) 
was in a case that is in terriffic condition - I would say a 9, and the 
machine is in as good condition.  The only scratch I could find was if I 
turned her at an angle to the light and looked REAL hard.  All the 
goldwork is unmared, she came with the original oil can, manual (which I 
will photocopy for regular use) and all the feet listed in the manual.  
Also a buttonholer in the green plastic Singer box.  Oh yes...the 
attachments are in the original green cardboard box (serial #160809).  
The proprieter said he had had several FW over the years and this machine 
was the one his wife chose to keep for her own.  He decided to sell it 
since she had passed on.  I assured him that his wife would be pleased 
that a fellow-quilter (Alice did beautiful work) now had custody of her 

The FW I bought was also $400.  Isn't it amazing how much more one can 
get for ones money by being persistant?  I was so happy that I finally 
had the Featherweight of my dreams that I cried when I got to the car.  
My husband said "Happy early birthday present."  [contented sigh]  I have 
to go sew now...did I mention that she (named Alice in honor of her 
former owner) runs so smooth and quiet??

But for those of you in Southern California looking for old sewing 
machines, do check out the antique stores in Beaumont and Redlands.  
There are some lovely machines there...and some nice prices too.  I saw a 
99 (didn't get the serial #) with beautiful red and green decorations for 
$60...but I held out for Alice).

Oh yes...thank you Sue for this wonderful list, and thanks too to all the 
contributors.  (Graham, you really must *not* give up posting your 
stories, they are truely wonderful).

Date: Mon, 6 May 1996 18:10:18 GMT
Subject: 66 manual

I forgot to post that I'd picked up a Singer manual.Last copyright 1929. It
an origional green cover and says :Electric Sewing Machine 
                                                  with attachments 
                                                 Lock Stitch for Family Use

-This manual would probably rate a 9 but for some oilspots on some of on
the inner pages, cover is smooth and in beautiful condition. All pages and
instructions on how to use the attachments.I'd love to trade for something
older to do with sewing. No books please.Lets make a deal!Mail me privately
if you like. 
Maggie A 
Date: Mon, 6 May 1996 14:03:31 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 5/5/96

Hello fellow Featherweight Fans:

Recently I have seen an article on here requesting what walking foot fits the 

I own 2 featherweights, a black one and a white (green) one.  The other day, 
while at a garage sale, I spotted a sewing machine cabinet containing a 
plastic type singer, I think it was a 360 model.  The price was right $20, so 
I purchased it, thinking maybe the walking foot along with it would fit my 
featherweights.  Well, it fit one of them.  The white, made in Great Britain 
one.  It is a perfect match.  

Apparently there is another difference between the black and white 
featherweights that I was not aware of.  The shank that holds the feet is a 
different shape, thus the foot not fitting.  

Getting back to the foot.  There is no part number on it, only the word 
"Singer".  Sorry I can't be more helpful.  The machine I purchased with the 
walking foot, is a straight needle, not a slant needle.  So for those 
interested with a white featherweight, there is a Singer wakking foot out 
there that will fit.

Happy hunting,

Barb K 
Date: 06 May 96 16:13:02 EDT
Subject: Contribution

To Chris and all re book on Sewing Machine Values

Please do not publicise this book. It is full of errors. Much of it has simply
been lifted from other more worthwhile  publications.
The owner purports to run a sewing machine museum. Take it from me --- there is
no museum.
The values given in the book are mostly guesswork and so much in error as to be
a complete joke. I dislike all so-called value guides but what can you say when
they are over 100 per-cent wrong?
The danger with such a publiocation is that someone will believe it and either
waste good money on a worthless machine or pass by something worthwhile.
Of all the books written about sewing machines, some good, some bad, this is 
only one that the International Sewing Machine Collectors' Society refuses to
handle for its members.
Sorry, Chris, to have rubbished the book that you handle but let's be honest
here. It does not carry, as you say, pictures of "most (all?) Singers from 1851
to the FW".
In fact, it only has pictures of 16 or 17 different Singer models out of a
possible total of over 200. That's a tad short of most, let alone all. To 
check, I noted all the Singer models mentioned in the same FWF posting -- there
were 13 in all and less than half of these are illustrated in the book despite
being the mpost popular models. Chris, why not dump the book and handle the
Carter one instead? Lots more pictures and  accurate(ish) information? It's a
little more expensive than the other joke but at least you'd know that your
customers would not be disappointed.However, please warn them that it also has
an inaccurate value guide.
If you want to e-mail me, I'll put you in touch with the publisher (good
discounts on quantity). I've already sold hundreds in Europe. Will also take 
liberty of forwarding you the ISMACS book list for your information.

To Betty re the Casige toy
Casige was one of the most prolific manufacturers. Built toys from 1902 to 1975
in Germany. The one you saw probably dates from the mid 1960s but I cannot
identify it without a photograph.

To Sherrie re my books
Thank you for the comments but I don't think even FWF loyalty would convince
many of you that you need history books on classic motorcycles and Victorian
Industrial Architecture or a guide to off-road driving.

 To All re photo copy of Singer recognition manual.
Lots of response to this. Have had a close look at it and there are around 130
different Singers pictured to 1982 -- and that's still a long way from all of
I've had an idea which could cut down on cost which is mainly postage. If there
is a FWF out there in the States with good copy connections I could send one
good photocopy of the lot and then the book could be re-produced there. 
I've done a dummy run and the pictures copy good enough to re-copy without any
great detail loss. Any takers?  
Date: Mon, 6 May 1996 17:26:40 GMT
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 5/5/96

to Jeanette: I've been to your site and its very nicely done. Keep adding
those machines! 
To Mary Sue: The price of $15.00 is great if you like to work with old
machines. It could be a great place to start.You wouldn't want to pay much
more with the cabinet and head both needing work. The belts are relatively
cheap and my DH took an new extention plug wire about the same thickness
and replaced a frayed one on my model 15 and it works like new. All for
$.99.In my area a cabinet model in a shop is usually $75.00 if in great
condition. You can't go wrong.But be careful. This form of addiction can
affect everyone around you.You'll be begging everyone who will listen to
keep their eyes open for machines, and if their not interested you'll not
understand why.Your family will not understand why dinner is late or you
don't have time for the park on weekends like you used to because your too
busy going to flee markets, etc. etc. Good Luck! 
Liz: You gave everyone a well needed boost! 
And finally to Graham:I think you should write a short essay on yourself,
I'm sure it would prove to be a very innnnnnnnnnteresting story. 
Subject: 301-301A Mini-survey  Last Call
Date: Mon, 6 May 1996 17:03:06 -0500

A big THANKS to those of you who have sent  info on your 301s and 301As. 
 I haven't been online for four days, so haven't been able to confirm 
receipt to all of you personally.  We have info on nine machines so 
far-some vague patterns present, but also some curiosities...For those 
of you who haven't responded yet, your data would be appreciated!  
Please take a few minutes to e-mail me the following info on your 301 or 

MODEL (301 OR 301A)

SINGLE or DOUBLE plug configuration (double has two plugs on right side 
of machine)
LONG (5-1/2") or SHORT (about 2-3/4") extension bed

Please respond by (including) May 10, l996, after which I'll pass on the 
results.  The more machines we can compare, the better!

Joy F 
Date: Mon, 6 May 1996 20:59:30 -0400
Subject: Singer hand crank
>I got a set of videos from the library; six volumes of A&E's production of
HOUSE OF ELIOT.  It is about 2 sisters in the fashion industry.  At the end
of volume 2 a Singer hand crank is brought in in a wooden case and revealed.
Then in later scenes we see it being used.  Really neat!  Millie 
Date: Mon, 6 May 1996 21:46:22 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Short notes

To Judy :

I just happened to have my handy-dandy serial number list (originally
posted by Jim W ) right here, so I can tell you that a serial # of
G9641368 dates from 1921 - 1923.  What was the bobbin type??

To Mary Sue:

A 201 doesn't NEED a belt, it's a gear-driven machine.  If you can plug it
in and ascertain that everything is in good working order, I think $15 is
a terriffic price!  Run, do not walk, back to the store and check it out!

Date: Mon, 6 May 1996 21:58:49 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: One more note

I KNEW there was something I forgot!!

To Becky: The oak box arrived today, and I love it! 

To Everyone Else: Now that I have the box and the loose attachments that
came with my treadle, can someone tell me which attachments correspond to
the numbered "thinggies" in the box so I can put stuff where it belongs?? 
Or is there an illustration of this thing somewhere??  

Thanks in advance!

                                  _   _   
Lydia P 
Date: Mon, 6 May 1996 20:40:02 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Home Decorating with Sewing Machines

Went to a big antique show on Saturday but I came away empty handed. There
were two featherweights, nothing special, for about $395 each. I also saw a
very interesting electric Wilcox and Gibbs. It had a matching
power cord and motor. There was also a gentleman selling what looked to be
a collection of toy sewing machines. I don't think he was too serious about
selling them because some were very expensive, in the $500 range.

On the way home, we stopped at a junk store we had been to just once
before. It was junky, but fun. You never know quite what you're going to
find. Well there it was, right inside the front door. Setting a new
standard for a sewing machine travesty. This was a sewing machine head
turned into a lamp! There was a post coming out of the middle of the
machine where the motor may have been and a dingey old lampshade to finish
things off. And they wanted $95 for it. Yes, ninety-five American

Well, I went home and admired my 2 FWs, 2 99s, model 27, White rotary
treadle and little Wilcox and Gibbs. Maybe, I didn't really need another
old machine anyway.

Date: Tue, 7 May 1996 00:12:49 -0500
Subject: Quilt Sale and Show, West Springfield, MA

Do not remember what I posted about the West Springfield, MA show this
week.  The location is the Big E Convention Center.  Not sure of show hours
so please call.  We will be there May 10, 11, and 12.  The show has
merchandise for quilters and other collectors.  Usually there are FW's and
attachments to be found along with other goodies.  Please come.  Stop and
see me so we can talk war stories about finding FW's.  Booth name is
Patches on Sassafras Ridge. 
Date: Tue, 7 May 1996 06:28:51 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: GE machine

I have a question regarding the paint on my newest addition and I'm hoping
some of you smart fw people can help me out. I bought a darling GE machine
at an auction last week and it looked to be in very good shape, but when I
got it home, I noticed the paint on the base is very crazed and I'm sure
will flake off if I touch it. I'm hoping there's some sort of clear varnish
spray I can apply that will protect it, but I don't really know how to
approach it or what to use. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. It's
such a cute machine in fairly good shape otherwise that I'd love to be able
to preserve it in it's present condition. Thanks to you all. Sue M. 
Date: Tue, 7 May 1996 06:26:38 -0600
Subject: a surprise!

I'd certainly hate to have a week go by without some sort of Singer item
making its way into my home..... but that's just what seemed to be
happening until yesterday.

Saturday I went wandering with a friend. The only tempting machine I saw
was a 99k, and since it was the property of the shop owner and still
actively used, it didn't seem like I could expect to get my hands on it. I
made nice noises to the owner.... "I saw your machine back there. If you
weren't still using it I'd try to buy it from you."  etc. etc.

Also saw what must have been one of the rockets. Talk about ugly!  Saw an
egg-encased buttonholer, but I passed because I know my old one is at my
mother's house somewhere and I'm planning to spirit it away next time I
visit. Saw an older buttonholer, but it was missing the feed dog cover.  So
you can all see that I tried, but failed.

So yesterday in the mail is a box from a friend who is packing up and
moving from Wisconsin to California.  A large box, but at 2" thick,
definitely not her old and currently not working FW (more's the pity).  I
open it up.  I find 3 or 4 things wrapped as Christmas gifts (we are
notoriously tardy with our gift exchanges, but some of these were probably
a couple of years old). And in the back, a large, heavy, oblong shape that
rattled.  I peel off the the newspaper that wrapped it.  A black (dusty)
plastic box with SINGER on the lid.  Pitter pat goes my heart.  I open it.
Ahhhhhhhh an old buttonholer!!!  Eight cams.  A feed dog cover. An original
manual, dated 1948.  Part number 160506.  I assume it will work with my FW,
but will try it soon to be sure.

So...... another Singer item, and I wasn't even trying!  It's
spooky........ insert Twilight Zone theme here>

Date: Tue, 7 May 1996 08:41:05 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Found a 66

This is for anyone near Columbus, Ohio.  There is a 66 in the Salvation
Army Thrift Store on Morse Road.  Gold is good.  Black is filthy.  No top
to the case.  The outside plate to the thread tension is strange.  Must be
a replacement.  It is silver with embossed numbers.  Tension spring may be
broken or just needs attention.  They are asking $14.95.  We don't have a
66 but we just don't have room for it.

To the person who found the Spartan in another case (Sorry, I printed the
digest and mislaid it.)  We have two Spartans.  One has the original case.
It is green hard plastic.  These guys sew every bit as well as their more
decorated sisters, the 99s.  Although Graham can't find any records for
them, they both say "Made in Great Britain".  Their model # is 192.

To the person who found the 201.  My sm repairman says they are the best
machine that Singer ever made.  We have 2 of them and the DH loves them. 
They will sew through 7 layers of denim.  They are quiet because there is
no belt.  Direct drive.  

We have a white featherweight.  There are no plastic gears.  There is a
cogged belt that goes from the top shaft to the bottom shaft.  Cogged
belts are used in automobiles, so there is nothing wrong with that.  This
little sweetheart weighs a few ounces less than the black ones.

Graham, is it a custom in Great Britain to put a body in a rocking chair?
In the U.S. there are many different customs because we have people from
all backgrounds.  Some people want a picture taken of the body in the
casket while others think it is gruesome.  Most people have the deceased
in their best clothes while some prefer familiar clothes like flannel
shirts.  I had a friend whose husband could never find his way through
Cincinnati.  He told her if the road to Heaven led through Cincinnati, he
wouldn't make it.  When he died, she put a street map of Cincinnati in his

I lurk for a while and then I write an epistle.

Date: Tue, 7 May 1996 08:27:17 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: Karen's white FW

Hello again, everyone:

I saw Greta's post concerning my message of April 25.  I guess I didn't 
see the "conversation" Greta speaks of, but I'm happy to clarify.  As I 
said in that message the machine really is the standard white machine 
that everyone talks about (white, mint, light turquoise, whatever), thus 
I described it as being a little plainer.  I do still feel that it is not 
a piece of junk however its "innards" are different that the standard 
black FW.  It comes in the mint and tan case with no gold decals.  
Someone stated that it has plastic gears.  It really does not have 
gears.  I tried to post the following paragraph, but I have not seen it 
 yet so I'll include it here:

"I saw the post telling about the plastic gears and looked at my little
white one last night.  I didn't find any plastic gears; what I did find
was a nylon (how do I describe this?) belt gizmo.  At any rate there is a
belt rather than a gear system that makes the machinery at the bottom of
the machine connect with the machinery at the top.  The companion gizmo
item at the bottom is metal.  When the belt reaches the top it slips onto
this nylon piece that connects to a metal system that has metal parts to
make the machine run.  I hadn't noticed when I first purchased the
machine (it was my first one) that this piece was not metal as it is
mostly hidden by the belt.  I'm sure that this system was a big cost
saver to the manufacturer, but I still like the machine.  The moral to
this story is that I'll bet all of you are glad that I am not your Singer
sewing machine guru taking care of all of your gismos!!"

I was lucky enought to have a conversation with Glenn (he's shipping me a 
new machine to me, yay!!!) and he concurs that the machine does not have 
gears, but is belt driven inside and out.  This, I suppose, could be 
described as less desirable, but as I see it you simply have to contend 
with two belts rather than one.  This little baby purrs along and she's 
pieced many a quilt.  The paint is perfect and I enjoy her work as well 
as the things my other ones do for me.  The birthdate of my Whitey 
(sounds like a dog, doesn't it) is 1964 and it has a shorter fold down 
extension than the black ones do.  I think there is a good chance of your 
finding one in Canada as I've seen several contributions from other 
Canadians who have them which leads me to believe they may be as common 
there as they are here.

I'd like to end this now, but must add that I am no expert, am learning 
everyday along with most of the rest of you, would still buy a white FW, 
and think this is so much fun.  Thanks for all of the info.  I've loved 
the long digests that have shown up this week.  Thanks, Sue for all of 
your work in getting them to us.  You can't be appreciated enough!!

Karen P 
Date: 7 May 1996 16:22:26 +0000
Subject: Stuff, etc.

To Robin:  I never heard of a Starlet...what does she look like?

To Katy:  Did you buy the Ugly little green Elna?

To Graham:

Don't under any circumstances EVER cease or desist writing.  Personally, I 
wish you wrote to the Board at LEAST every day....(more wouldn't be a 
problem!)  I like the way your mind works and the resulting missives we get 
to enjoy....so....keep going!  Love from a Satisfied FWF in New Jersey 

To Bob C :

In what area does this creepy unscrupulous deal go to auctions?  I plan to 
start going and certainly wouldn't want to experience what you did with your 
machine.  The guy should be greased and lubricated!  (With Singer products, 
of course!)

To Helen  :

A quote from your 5/1 note:  "The only bad thing is reading it has turned me 
into a Fanatic."  This is GOOD!  Anything that is so much fun, stimulating, 
educational, useful, and keeps you out of department stores and other souces 
of Sin is WONDERFUL....I think it's one of the best things that's happened 
to me in recent times....it's so nice to know that you Are Not Alone in Your 
Addiction...besides FW's, I'm into computers, quilts, many other sewing 
machines, books/quilt books/sewing books/cookbooks, FABRIC, 40's, 50's &
60's collectibles, and STUFF...so don't sweat reading the digest....and 
doing SM things...we need to have Fun...

To Claudette R -

Your photos are a Terriffic Idea...I've been waiting for the Consummate Book 
of Machines, from A-Z, from earliest days to now, and all detail.  I wonder 
who will write it and illustrate it?  It has to be in color and then 
translated into all the other languages and should be done soon, to make ME 
happy!  All names, makes, pictures, details, dates, any trivia that's 
relative and then some...

To Kolleen:

What magazine article are you referring to?  Please advise....

To Michele :

I have one of those little plastic Singers you just got.  Got it for $3.00, 
with box...found box lying in junk heap in another room.  It has some crayon 
scribbles on it, which will come off easily.

Also, got a Singer 40 (?) little metal one (with box) for $50.00, in 
excellent condition except for the thread spindle if anyone has one or knows 
where to get one?

To Alton D :

I never was lucky enough to get or even set eyes on Singer World Fair Stuff, 
but anything Singer I see, I want and that goes for World Fair stuff 
also..the combination....oh my!

To Liz :

Oh-h-h--hh--hh--h-h-h-h.......................I'm GREEN with envy re: your 
$25 purchase of 2 FW's...but it just proves....luck still can happen!

To Mary Sue:

Re the 201 for $15...if you don't buy it, please send me the address so I 
can....WOW....I've been lusting for a 201, but not at dealer prices....

To Linda E :

Re:  Singer Crank....I have found it for you...it looks in pretty good 
condition, it's in a Bentwood Case, which has the attachments in a little 
box in the case cover (never saw that before.)  It has the bobbin, and as I 
recall the paint looks decent...I think, and this is recall, paint wise 
probably about 6ish...I got the woman's number which is 201-232-3704, her 
name is Sarah and she will ship it to you.  Tell her you're calling about 
the Singer Crank that she spoke to Mary in Union about...It should be around 
$100 approximate...I would buy it, but I bought the Toy first...and just 
can't do anymore for awhile anyway....sigh!  Let me know how you make 
out...I will copy this message and send it to you direct,   You can leave a message at either number 
or of course, just E-mail me.  My home computer is having surgery in the 
Computer hospital so I can read the postings only til Thursday, then on 
Monday...after I get it out of hospital, I want to have postings to home 
computer also...I can't do without them...it makes me antsy and actually 
wanting to go to work, imagine!  I gathered you're in Alaska, right?

To Gene B :

Thank you for the keys...work like a charm...I forgot just how beautiful the 
3 babies were inside of their Bentwood Cases...really, really nice...you are 
a doll!

To Graham:

What kind of machine did the little old New England lady have laying in wait 
for 8 years for you?  You didn't mention....I'm insatiably curious, by the 

One more Reason not to Move to California (which I love by the way)

My mom says it will drop off into the Pacific, like Atlantis...

To Ron/Lovina B :

PS:  I must confess, I forgot, but I have a few irons, too....my friend 
won't look at them, says they are a symbol of our servitude....but I like 

Royal Treadle:

My next door neighbor took me downstairs to her basement to show me a sewing 
machine she wanted to give me....was I surprized!  I thought it was an old 
dusty thing, but a treadle in Good shape, and the machine, with a bunch of 
attachments....it's a Royal, which I didn't have a chance to look up 
yet...but never heard of....even tho' I need it like another Body Part, I 
couldn't resist.  I just have to make some room for it since my mother just 
moved in with me and all her stuff came yesterday, along with HER 3 sewing 
machines, fabric et al.....but I WILL find the room...I think I'll give her 
some of my old books to even off the trade...Anyone have a manual for this 
or have one, with information to share?


What's the scoop with the little 221 on FW's...is there a protocol for it? 
 It seems to appear now and then, without consistency.

General Trivia:

I still haven't seen a comprehensive description of GODZILLA, unless it is 
of its own essence supposed to be self-explanatory??

I wish (for Mother's day I would get Lotsascrap's AM FW....sigh.  DH doesn't 
read these postings...

Stripping FW Cases:

So what's the big deal if they loooook or smell disgusting to strip them and 
make them nice, especially if they are wood underneath.  I love all six of 
mine but I know deep in my heart that it can't be A Bad Thing to make them 
look better if they look really Bad &Yuukky...but that's only my opinion. 
 Unless it had the Serial Number #1 or something or belonged to the Queen 
Mum or something...

My Old Magazines:

I am going to cut them up, at least the Sewing Machine (and....FW) ads and 
mat and frame them...they are so appealing...and I have a number of them 
from around 1910 through 60's...

Have a meeeeting to go to (I AM at work, after all!)  Hope to get more 
postings when I return...bye from

Date: Tue, 7 May 1996 12:26:27 -0400
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 5/5/96

Hello everyone,  I'm a newbie here and have enjoyed reading about all of your
high adventures re: featherweight hunting and antique sewing machine hunting.
 I've never considered myself a 'fanatic' but somehow I have accumulated 3
featherweights!  Since I have so enjoyed your  tales of how you found your
machines, thought I would share how I got mine.  First of all, I'm a quilter
and kept hearing about 'the legendary machine', it really didn't register
since I had my high tech, computerized models.  When I finally saw one, I
thought it was so cute (I know you men are probably snickering!) and decided
I was interested in one.  Since I live in Central California (mostly
agricultural area) I began noticing them in various antique stores (another
passion).  Anyway, my sister-in-law, knowing of my interest in them gave me
one for Christmas!  It was one of the best Christmas presents I ever
received.  I found the next one at a local antique and collectibles swap
meet.  It was a white (really beige) 221J made in Canada--I paid $l00.  And
the last one I got was just a couple of weeks ago at my local antique store.
 I took a chance on this one since the cord was completely shot and there was
no way of knowing if it would run.  In fact the owner of the store blew out
his electrical fuse trying to get it to run!  Anyway because of the cord, he
sold it to me for $100.  Now if I can just get my DH to replace the cord!
 And it does run just fine.  This machine also came with some extra feet, one
which I had never seen before-a sort of blocky looking foot could be a 1/4"
foot, I'll have to try it out.  

Also, there was someone who was looking for the instruction booklet for a
buttonhole attachment #121795.  If you still need the instructions, please
email me your address and I will send you a copy.  Thanks everyone for all
the great information.  Claire F 
Date: Tue, 7 May 1996 14:05:05 -0400
Subject: RE: new owner

I just received my first Featherweight and i am loving is ---
It came with its own case which unfortunately smells awful ---any ideas as to
how to get rid of the odor.
           Thank you   ML 
Date: Tue, 7 May 1996 14:34:45 -0400
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 5/6/96

to  Lydia P
Subject: Short notes

What was the bobbin type??>

Oops, sorry to omit such a detail.  The #G9641368 machine has a round drop in
bobbin, NOT a shuttle. 
Date: Tue, 7 May 1996 12:45:32 -0700
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 5/6/96

Hi ya,

To Graham, would you consider posting your society's references books here
for all to see-if list too long best available books?  Also True Story #13
regarding Lion Sewing Machine was incomplete and I would love to hear the
part after meeting at a dock at Belf.......

I finally  have an  FW- well almost anyway.  It's mine but it was shipped
to my Mother's for the time being - since I knew I would be OT when it was
to be shipped. I understand it be be at least an 8+, has all orginal
attachments, bobbin case, and oil can and keys but no tube of grease (since
you aren't to use it anyway I am content!) Mom has been teasing me with
details everytime he talk onthe phone. She says it's a beauty and it has a
great stitch. Can hardly wait to see it and sew on it. With luck I will be
able to bring it home this weekend. This is going to be a long week
Date: Tue, 07 May 1996 15:41:14 -0500
Subject: posting on another digest

The following was posted on QuiltBee today. Thought someone may be interested
in making a deal.


I'm interested in trading one  (or more) of my  Singer Featherweights in
exchange for some toy sewing machines.  I'm interested in any of the
following toy machines:

"Little Mother" by Artcraft Metal Products

Older Casige models in good shape including #6; Sunflowers;  Little Red
Riding Hood; Sew-O-Matic;  various Art Deco models.

Made in England "Comet E.M.C."

English "Palitoy"

Gateway "Rotar Model NP-8"

Genero Machine Works "Gurlee"

Hoge Mfg. Co.  "No 325 - Popular Model-Little Princess"

Made in Japan "Little Sister"

Made in Germany - Vielfach Geschutz "Liliputian"

Lindstrom Tool &Toy Co. "Little Miss Shirley Temple" 

F.W. Muller - any models pre WWII. (including toy treadles, Models 16, 18, 21)

Schurhoff and Co. "Gold Rain'

Sears Roebuck Kenmore by National Sewing Machine Co. "bright red" 1930"s and

Singer Sewhandy 1950's in Red or Blue

Singer Sewhandy 1951 Black 100th Anniversary 

Sotoy "Martha Washington"

If you have any of these toys or know any serious collectors please let me


Bob C 
Date: Tue, 7 May 1996 14:49:46 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: Featherweight question

Have been visiting and enjoying here for awhile.  Own two featherweights,
one since 93 the other since 94.  The one from 93 is what I've been piecing
quilts on since I got it.  The other one I put up after getting it home,
playing a little to check it out.  Knew they both had AJ serial numbers and
thought they were the same year 1950.  Recently I moved the empty case to
the same place where the put up one was and noticed the cases were
different.  Had been wondering about the difference and today checked it
out.  The one put up has a different emblem (or whatever the gold medallion
is called).  It has a blue border around it which says "Century of Sewing
Service 1851-1951".  Wouldn't that one have been made in 1951?  Or is their
another difference in the machines?

Anyway, I love them both.  Really enjoy visiting here and reading about all
the machines.

Date: 07 May 96 16:22:28 EDT
Subject: Contribution

True Stories number 15

The small antique fair had just opened its doors. The trade was allowed in an
hour early and a friend and I were making the most of this privilege by rushing
round as the stallholders set up their displays.

Only one stall looked promising, yielding up  a couple of small sewing 
a microscope and other long-forgoten items. I made a small pile of these at one
end of the stall and asked the vendor how much he wanted for the lot.

"I don't sell anything until after 8.30" came the reply. "I like to get set up
properly first".

What he actually meant was that he wanted to avoid having to give any form of
dealer discount until the public had had the chance of paying him more.

My friend and I walked away and over a cup of tea (much tea is drunk at such
affairs) evolved THE PLAN.

Just before 9 am we wandered back and I again began to make a pile of the 
that interested me. Only this time the pile was much larger. As each item was
selected I asked the price and, most times, agreed it. The dealer kept a list
and, as the total mounted, he could hardly fail to show his excitement. This 
his big day. The day all antique dealers dream of. The day the mug walks by and
clears all the rubbish he's been carting around for the past nine months. And
the mug never even asks for a discount.

The grand total was well over 2,000  pounds ($3,000) and as my friend and I
discussed how we were going to load such an array of treasures into our 
I pulled out the dealer's "wad" and began slowly to count out the notes.

The timing was perfect, I was just two notes short of the total when the hall
clock began to strike nine.

My friend gently pushed me aside, picked up the pile of notes from the table 
led me away, loudly reminding me: 
"Come along Graham. Remember, you never buy anything after nine o'clock.

Graham F
Date: Tue, 07 May 1996 15:14:38 -0500
Subject: really interesting book!

I was at the library today picking up my quilts from a show,
and decided to see if they had the Sincere book I keep seeing
referenced.  they did!

My poor two-year-old was forced to read it with me, because
I loved looking at those old machines! 

Y'all are probably the only people I know who would understand :)

Date: 07 May 96 17:13:58 EDT
Subject: "Stomp the Newbie"

To Graham and all...

Flame  off  please! Boy, did I tweak your nose and I am so sorry... OK, forget 
about  the "Antique American Sewing Machines" being a value guide. I always go 
by  the  fact  that  something's  only  worth  what  someone's willing to pay. 
(However,  I  really  don't  think  a  set  of  Kennedy's golf clubs are worth 
US$750,000...).  And  you are most certainly correct in that all 200 models of 
the  Singers  are  not  pictured in the book. But the 13 or 14 models pictured 
(along  with  16  more  shown  with different tables, etc.), is an overview of 
some  of the early models and must have some intrinsic value for the beginning 
collector.  And please correct me if I'm wrong, but it's my understanding that 
of  the  '200'  models, many of these were within a Series. IE. the 128 series 
has  at least 8 sub models (128-3, 128-4, 128-13, etc.). And of course the 128 
is  the  smaller version of the 127 (also with several sub-models). It is nice 
to  be  able to understand the basic difference between a 15-90 and a #27. And 
once  you  know  that  a  66  is  close cousin to a 99 and that many parts are 
interchangeable,  you  can  pick  up  a  99  and get parts for your 66 or visa 

And  thank you for the ISMACS book list. However, of the 13 or so books on the 
list,  I  see  that five of them are out of print (and Carter Bays book is not 
going  to be reprinted - I just ordered it direct from Carter and it's US$50), 
so  I guess that makes 6. And six of the books probably don't have Singer info 
(the  French, German, and Toy machine books esp.). So, I guess my question is, 
what  book does a casual collector or owner refer to that is readily available 
here in the USA at a reasonable price?
Date: Tue,  7 May 1996 17:01:52, -0500
Subject: Vibrating Shuttle No. 2

To Graham;
   I have an ad card which shows the Vibrating Shuttle No. 2.  The card is
undated but shows the machine in a 7-drawer stand with a separate box to
cover the machine and says it is a family sewing machine.  On the front of
the card below a picture of the machine it says:

The Singer Manufacturing Company's
Vibrating Shuttle No. 2
Our New Vibrating Shuttle Machine is the latest development of that popular
principal, containing special patented improvements, which make it:
1st-The lightest running machine in the market.
2nd-The simplest machine in the world.  It requires absolutely no teaching.
3rd-The only vibrator which makes a perfect stitch-a result heretofore
attained in family machines only by our oscillator.
4th-The only Vibrator which can sew from lightest to heaviest cotton
without change of tension, covering the whole range of family work.

The reverse says:
Points of Superiority
which exist only in our
Vibrating Shuttle No. 2 Machine
1. It has a far shorter needle than any other machine of its class.
2. It has the simplest shuttle made. You can't help threading it right.
3. It has the latest and best form of Automatic Bobbin Winder.
4. It has the latest and best stitch regulator. By simply turning a screw
the stitch can be lengthened or shortened while the machine is running  at
full speed. No fastening necessary; it stays wherever you leave it.
5. It has the balanced tension by which, without change, the whole range of
 family work can be done, and all kinds of thread used. You can draw out
the work without loosening the thread; it will not break.
6. All its sewing movements are positive, avoiding variation in work
through dependence on springs, and ensuring unequaled durability.
7. Its wonderful light running is secured by a new (patented) sliding crank
 movement, far quieter than any other, yet having all the power,
directness and certainty of gears.
8. It has the simplest shuttle movement, it has the best self-threading
shuttle with skelton carrier, the shortest and steadiest shuttle  carrying
arm, it has cone-centers and adjustable bearings throughout; in short, it
has all the latest improvements (including a tension release)  and the best
modern ornamentation, and nickeled finish, both above and  below the bed.

Date: Tue, 7 May 1996 17:53:04 -0400
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 5/6/96

My repairman has an interesting machine for sale. It's an Elna #1, made, he
says, about 1941. He wants $150.00. Is anybody interested?
Date: 07 May 96 19:56:50 EDT
Subject: Contribution

To all

Think we have found a way around getting the Singer recognition manual to
members of this group without the horrendous mail charges of sending 80 pages
from the UK
Bobbie K  of Arizona has a son who runs a copy shop and is willing to do the
copy work. Bobbie will then distribute.
Within the next few days I'll get the best copy possible off to Bobbie and let
her take over from there.
She will announce when the re-prints are ready.
All I ask is that if you further distribute the job you include the cover page
which is going to be a plug for the International Sewing Machine Collector's
Hope you all enjoy it and find it useful
Best wishes
Graham F
Date: 07 May 96 20:29:23 EDT
Subject: To Graham:

I too am interested in the book that you recommend. I have the "other" one and
agree wholeheartedly with your assessment. 

Also, I would like a set of the photocopies if someone is willing to take it 
I am on the road so much I can't, but hope some FWF out there can.

Keep the stories coming...they're great.

Date: Tue, 7 May 1996 21:01:37 -0400
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 5/6/96

To Lynn, :  I saw a machine converted into a lamp in Paducah
and was horrified! Of course, not being a shy type, I voiced my opinion loud
and strong to the owner, who was sufficiently cowed to remove it from sight,
in light of the fact that there were thousands of other quilters in town for
the Quilt show who might have strung him up!
To all: On the same tack, I, too have seen treadle bases, with and without
the treadle, used as tabletops, etc., and wondered the fate of the machines.
I will gladly add my name to the list of protests going to the magazine, to
which I subscribe, BTW, but am so far behind in my reading that I haven't had
the chance to spot the offending article yet. That ranks right up there with
cutting up perfectly salvagable (sp?) quilts and coverlets for "cute craft
ideas". I'm as patriotic, red, white and blue as anyone, but I wonder about
our country's mentality towards it's history - down with the old and up with
the new- if we don't save something of our past, who will ever know we've
been here.
We have a perfect place on FWF to promote the preservation of old sewing
machines, and things related - and we should use it, IMHO.
Becky S.
Date: Wed, 8 May 1996 02:02:02 -0400
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 5/6/96

I have a friend who's trying to place an insurance value on his Grandmothers
sewing machine.  I haven't seen it but this is the information he gives.

It's in a major peice of desk like furnature, swing top to get the sewing
machine out.  Nice brass plate on the front says Singer Sewing Manfct. Co
Trade Mark.  #AH019730 on the base plate.  There are several boxes of spare
parts and a button hole attachment.  AH Haa here is the instruction book.
 It's a Singer Electric Sewing Machine (but I already told you that) 15-90
reversable feed, lock stitch, for family use.  The copyright of the book is

He didn't tell me the condition of it, but I've ask.


Date: Tue, 07 May 96 22:16:36 -0700
Subject: (no subject)

Help! I am a beginner with tons of questions! I recently saw a 
featherweight, fell in love with it and am in the market for one. 1.What 
is the most loved featherweight model among quilters? 2.How many different 
models are there? 3.What models am I most likely to find in good condition 
and aprox. price (I am located on Long Island N.Y; if that helps) 4. 
Reading FW Fanatics home page "little giant" was mentioned. Any further 
info on little giant($299.)  5.Any history info on a hand crank singer 
machine (was my mother in law's when she was young in N.Y.) it has no 
serial #. It is not electric, it is tan and gets clamped on to the 
tabletop.All parts are metal gears.-no belts.  Manual says Singer* 20  
SEWHANDY  copyright 1955. It needs a tension knob. 
Would apreciate any info. Look forward to hearing what your favorite is 
and any suggestions. THANKS! Kim.  
Date:          Wed, 8 May 1996 07:59:07 +0000
Subject:       Items For Sale

Hi All,

I have a few things left to sell. Here is the list. Please e-mail if interested 

1. Greist Blindstitch attachment.  The box is in good shape and it 
has a  manual copy.  This will fit low shank Singers. $13		

2. Folding Oak box with some attachments. These came with older Singer treadles. The box
itself is a dark color and the velvet lining is a dark purplish blue. I don't know what all belongs in
here but it does have a binder, hemmer, two tuckers, a couple feet, and a few other items I
cannot identify. $30		

3.  Singer buttonholer. Newer beige plastic  style, fits straight  needle short shank machines
including FWs.  The box is in terrible shape but the buttonholer works fine. It includes 5
templates and a feed dog cover. If you are only interested in the 
feed cover plate for free motion quilting, this may be a good deal for you. $7

4. Three Greist attachment sets to fit the following machines: White, older Kenmore, Domestic,
Majestic, Franklin, Worlds, Dressmaster, and Rotary machines made by White and Domestic
Sewing Machine Co. All in black metal boxes $13 each

 5. Two Greist attachments sets to fit top clamping Kenmore ( 49, 71, 76), Free Rotary, Free
Westinghouse, New Home Rotary, Stratford, and most all machines made by the Free and New
Home Sewing machine Company. Also  in black metal boxes. $13 each

Please e-mail for specifics on the Greist attachments sets.

E-mail if interested, prices do not include shipping. Thanks! Katy
Date:          Wed, 8 May 1996 07:59:07 +0000
Subject:       201

Mary Sue--Go get the 201  for $15! It is a fabulous machine. You will 
not tregret it once you have sewn on it. Katy
Subject: Help! Broken Featherweight Motor Housing
Date: Wed, 8 May 96 09:02:07 -0500

To Everyone out there is FeatherWeight land,
        A friend's cats knocked her FeatherWeight off the table!  Yuk! It
still sews, but the housing around the motor is cracked off in a couple of
places. She needs a new motor housing very badly, since it is now a potent
electric shock hazard.  The machine is a model 221K, 13608 (I guess the
second number is the serial number?) If anyone can help her, please e-mail
me (she doesn't have Internet access). Thanks a lot.
Date: Wed, 8 May 1996 09:04:19 -0500
Subject: Singer Pinking Tool

Hi Everyone,
A few weeks ago I was in a consignment shop and found a Singer Pinking Tool. It is has a handle but I can't tell how you would mount it. I may not have gotten all the parts. But it was so cute and in great shape I just had to have it. I cut some material and it cut so smooth, no ragged edges like I sometime get with my shears. Does anyone happen to know when this tool was manufacturedf? There are no dates or serial numbers. I also found a Singer basic sewing book soft cover dated 1932(?).
I'm headed for North Carolina last week of June. Hope to keep in contact when I get setup. I bought an acre of land near Youngsville (outside of Raleigh) and I'm having a house built which is suppose to be ready end of July. Looking forward to "shopping" in the NE area. 
Date: Wed, 08 May 1996 08:57:04 -0500
Subject: saving old treadles from extinction...

I have done this! My MIL had my DH's great-grandmother's treadle in her garage, to make
into a plant stand.  And I , the non-confrontational, somehow convinced her to 
give it to me instead.  Unfortunately, 20 years in a damp basement and 5 years in a 
Canadian garage have taken their toll, but The machine itself seems to run fine (a model

And when I spoke with my mother yesterday, she offered me my great grandmother's machine
(mom, is it a 66 or 99?) if I can find a treadle for it...(Mom also subscribes to this

A question for all of you:  If the mint condition of these machines  (the FW, 128s, 201s,
101s, etc.) is so important, do you use them?  My FW are in good shape, but I have
definitely noticed wear in the past year.  I don't even consider that I'm 'damaging' them
by using them, isn't that what they are for?  Graham, I understand that your collecting
is of the museum type, but it sounds like there are a lot of sewers on this list...

And also, why are you NOT supposed to use lubricant?  these machines need lubricant!!!
Mechanics, please step forward!

Date: Wed, 8 May 1996 08:25:18 -0600
Subject: Singer 201

Thanks to all who wrote . . .Laura, Jeanette, Maggie, Lydia, Al, Claudette,
and Daryl . . .  I now am more educated about the 201 and am not happy.
After I received the first 3-mail, I called the lady with the machine, but
it was gone.  So, after me, you can all start lining up to give me a good
swift kick in the pants.  I knew when I walked away from the machine, it was
a mistake.  But my practical self got the better of me.  Next time I will
take my practical side (what would I ever do with another machine and where
will I put it!) and stuff it way down in my socks!!  My husband said, "I
can't understand why you didn't but it; it was only $15."  When I said, "But
it was in a cabinet," he said, "Oh, well, I'm glad you didn't buy it.  There
isn't room."  He's going to be a difficult one to convince.  

This list is bad.  At first, I had no intention of even looking at old
machines.  Just thought reading about them was fun.  I do have my
featherweight, New Home, Bernina, and serger (they are all new).  Now I am
looking in the paper everyday (much good it will do me if I keep acting like
I did with the 201, huh?).  I also have two friends.  One has an old
spinster aunt who has been a seamstress for years.  She is going to ask her
if she has an FW.  My other friend's mother died last year, and she hasn't
done anything about her "stuff."  She told me she has a treadle and that I
can look at it when she gets around to sorting the "stuff."  I also have
another quilting friend who bought about 25 machines at an auction for the
grand total of $32.  She stored them away and didn't even look at them.  I
must ask her to let me look!!  I'll let you know if anything develops.  This
is addictive and I don't need another addiction!

Mary Sue
Date: Wed, 8 May 1996 09:31:34 -0600

More thanks for their input to Marilyn and Mary on the Singer 201.  Now I
want to kick myself even harder!!

To Pat M ,

Sounds like your machine is like mine, which I believe is an anniversary
model, although I have never been able to confirm this.  

Mary Sue
Date: Wed,  8 May 1996 11:28:16, -0500
Subject: Featherweight table

I saw an ad in the paper for an estate auction and they listed a 
Featherweight.  Well, I just had to go.  When we arrived I looked 
over the Featherweight (it was an AL)  there were a few attachments 
but no manual or oil can.  The machine was in good shape so I got a 
number and settled down to wait.  Then my DH and I decided to look 
around some more at the other items that were to be auctioned off.  
Low and behold but there was a Featherweight card table in almost 
perfect shape!
Well we waited and finally the auction began.  There were many 
bargains and I was hopeing to get the the Featherweight and the table.

I got the table for $10.00!!!!! I couldn't believe it.  No one else 
wanted it.  Now I just had to wait for the machine to come up.  When 
the Featherweight finally came up it went for more than I was willing 
to pay but I know that it went to a good quilter's home.  All in all 
it was a very interesting day and bargains are still to be found.  
Happy hunting!
Date: Wed, 08 May 1996 09:14:45 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Grandma's rotary

Dear Fanatics,
 I'm a newbie on this list, so please forgive any breach of protocol or 
bandwidth this once!
  Grandma left me her Improved Eldredge Rotary, made by the National 
Sewing Machine Company. Actually, she left it to my sister, but I traded 
her my serger for it. It's in the original table, and has all of the 
attachments and tools. Grandma thoughtfully saved the original manual and 
warranty. This is how I know that it is no.491742. I even have the 
receipt, which shows that she bought it Dec. 10, 1942!
 I dont have the rating scale in front of me, but the machine seems to be 
in excellent condition, although the table is worn. It was kept indoors 
and kept free from dust, bugs and rust. It appears to be in working 
order, although it needs a belt.
 What I would like to do is clean and oil the machine, and obtain a new 
belt for it. I'd also like to refinish the table. I could use all of your 
help and advice, because I'd like to do a proper job. In fact, I'm 
itching to start, but I won't without the proper tools. Is there a book I 
could get on restoring old machines like this one? A catalog for parts 
(I'm thinking of the belt)?. 
 I realize that antique machines should probably not be used at all, but 
I'd like to restore and use this one (gently and lovingly), and then leave 
it for my children to cherish after me.
 Thanks for your help! You can reply directly to me 
Date: Wed, 8 May 1996 14:34:12 -0400
Subject: old treadles

I don't like to see old machines die needlessly, but sometimes they were
already dead.  My daughter found an old treadle base for $10.  Unknown--
only a piece of driftwood hanging from the wheel.  We fixed it up, another
daughter made a wooden top for it and now it is the home for a $125

As an aside, I have a mola that has "Singer Sewing Machines" worked into an
oval with what looks like a couple of female figures and some spool-looking
designs.  Neat, huh?

MLC23--Stuff it full of newspapers and leave it awhile.  Wrap charcoal in
some of the papers.  Leave it open, if the former doesn't work.

Date: 8 May 1996 17:36:06 +0000
Subject: Stuff, etc.

To Graham:

I too, am extremely interested in the Consummate Guide to Sewing 
Machines*(esp. Singers, natch!).  People are making reference to your list, 
and you mention '80 pages,' and I saw 'ISMACs Book List' so are/is a 
list/book available for those of us that are hopeless addicted and HAVE to 
have this info to improve the quality of life?

I live near Elizabeth, NJ (2 miles away) and plan to check out the library. 
 I can't imagine why they wouldn't have a treasure trove of books there, 
considering it was a primary home of Singer for so long...but who 
knows....it's really frustrating to have access to such a wealth of 
information with the Web and not be able to compile what I really lust 
after.  A few years ago, when I tracked down Grace's Smithsonian book, I 
couldn't seem to find much of anything else, except now and again at an 
estate sale....some thin little thing or the Sewing manuals, which of course 
were better than nothing, so I got them....but I want The CGSM* and I am 
such an impatient person!  I want it NOW!  (sigh).(sob)(sigh)!

Story #15:  I absolutely love it.  Some sisters do shows also and have 
experienced this same sort of rudeness you described.  What a lovely Zinger! 

To Alton D :

I think my 1887 treadle is a No. #2 Vibrating Shuttle...I have to look at 
the manual.  It has the Fiddle Bottom or back, and has really pretty 
flowers, etc. on it... have another one to pick up at a friends house, she 
is trading me for another refinished treadle I have.  It's a Fiddle B, also, 
but it looks much older and smaller......do you have the manual?  I don't 
have the attachments for either of them.

To Marilyn R (and anyone to whom this applies):

My Spartan is the machine and the base only.  It had a green pack of needles 
taped on its little body, but no cover.  If anyone has a cover and or 
attachments, I would be interested....

Bye for now, from Mary
Date: 08 May 96 14:59:50 EDT
Subject: New Home question...

I  have a customer in Wyoming who needs a bobbin and bobbin case (shuttle) for 
her  "Sheraton"  by  New  Home.  This  is a small, hand-cranked machine, circa 
1896.  If  someone  has  an  extra,  but  doesn't  want  to sell it, she has a 
miniature  machine  shop  person  who  could 'clone' them. Thanks and Regards, 
Date: 08 May 96 16:21:52 EDT
Subject: New Web Page...

Hi  all...  I  have  posted several Singer pictures on our shop's web page. Go 
to:  http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/webspinner/quilts.htm  and  look 
for the Sewing Machine Gallery.
Date: 08 May 96 16:37:14 EDT
Subject: Contribution

To Suzy re crazed paint

Are you sure it's going to lift off. Some paint crazes but is still in very
solid condition. If it really is "live" my system is to mask off the bright
metal work and then use hair spray to gently fix the paint. This allows me to
then apply a thin coating of French Polish via a very sort brush. Be sure to do
this in a dust-free environment.

To Carolyn and all re 1875 Willcox and Gibbs
The odds are that this is not 1875 but much later. The 1875 printed on the
stitch plate is simply a patent date for the machine's automatic tension
arrangement. W&G machines were made (and very-well made) from 1875 to the 1950s
in virtually unaltered form.

To Marilyn re Spartan Model 192.

It's true that Singer UK do not acknowledge in any of their publications the
existance of a 192 but I'm hoping when the recognition manual becomes available
it may be revaled under a different disignation.
No, in Britain we do not put dead people in rocking chairs.The incident happened
on the Continent but I know that in Ireland wakes are held with open cofins so
that the departed can take some interest in the goings on.
Love the story of the road map.
I also deal in early photographic items and there are many collectors of images
of the dead. Sorry to be morbid here but when photography was in its infancy,
pictures were very expensive and were, to the average family, the exception
rather than the rule. Thus, when a person died, there would probably not have
been a likeness taken beforehand and the only keepsake would have to come after
The practice of morticans enhancing the looks of a dear departed for better
display is I think more an American custom.

To Liz re little Singer

Are you sure you mean a Singer 40? The bobbin spindle ,usually goes astray on
the toy/portable/miniature No 20.
If this is the case you can replace it the professional way -- get your local
machine shop to proviode a 2-inch length of 3/16-inch round steel slightly
tapered at one end. Shouldn't cost more than $5. Gently!!!! tap it into hole.
Or you can replace it the other way. At your local hardwear store find a nail
that fits, cut the head off and tap (again gently) it in.

To Mary re the machine saved for me

It was a Florence, made in the town of Florence, Mass, for around 20 years from
1860. Very collectable in good condition. Used a curved needle.

Hope you take then following with the humour intended. Recently we've had
postings talking of the horrors of people actually destroying and/or altering
treadles......and here you are cutting up magazines for the advertisements.
There is probably a OMF (Old Magazine Fanatics) listing somehwere with postings
about people who destroy...........

To Susan
I did try to post the list of books from ISMACS sometime back but I guess it was
too long. I will e-mail you a copy. Ture story 13, which left us at Belfast, now
should have been re-posted in complete form.

To Chris re that book
No flame, meant Chris, not even a whiff of smoke. I admit to getting rather
worked up about such issues. My criticism was of the book and not of your

You ask what book is available with details of Singer machines. I think that
FWFs will find that the Singer recognition manual when it becomes available will
provide the sort of information that is required. We are having it copied in the
States and made available  on a no-profit basis to anyone who wants it.

As to the ISMACS book list,. When a book is out of print we say so and then go
flat out to fill requests for it. This means that the book either comes in far
cheaper than the original cover price (Jewel for example) as a result of our
buying in bulk from the publisher who is clearing the line, or more expensive is
we have to deal with a antique bookseller who puts a premium on it.

I've found that FWFs are genuinely interested in old machines -- even those
which do not have Singer on the nameplate. I am surprised at the price you were
quoted for the Carter book, we were selling at less than this and still covering
our expenses. And my information is that a re-print is under way.

Embers fully doused. Best wishes to you, Connie and your business

To Al re Singer No 2
I've just checked this out and you are correct, Singer did call their Family
model the number two in America. Most confusing as this means the company had
two different number twos going at the same time. And, as I said before, there
were at least five models preceeding the Family Number 2. Thanks for all the
detailed information -- added to the archives.

I will forward information on joining ISMACS, as requested, to you by private e-

To Charlene and all others who have requested the Singer recognoition manual.
 Bobbie K  will post as soon as supplies are available.

Best wishes to all 
Graham F
Date: Wed, 8 May 1996 15:02:28 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 5/7/96


Just a short note and question.  I recently purchased a singer machine 
which I believe to be a 66--drop in bobbin, long bed, etc.  I am 
mystified; however, because the serial number is AH871762 and it has the 
l00th anniversary medallion on it.  My featherweight also has this 
medallion and it was an AK serial number.  Anyone else run into this?

Believe me, I would love to have a copy of Graham's 80 page guide.  When 
it is available, let us all know.  I hope Bobbie is in for a huge job.
If you want help, let me know.  

Subject: Wonderful Surprise!
Date: Wed, 8 May 1996 15:25:25 -0500

How thrilled I was to find your FWFanatics home page and start receiving 
the daily "mail".  Please forgive me for telling you about my 
"grandchild", Featherweight.  She was born Nov 5, 1936, fifteen days 
before I was born.  My mother did not buy her until some time in early 
1937, after February anyway, because a label on the little green 
attachments box says February 27, 1937.

I inherited a love of sewing, from my father's side of the family, and 
began to sew doll clothes at a very early age -- I know I had one of 
those little handcrank toy machines that everyone talks about, but can't 
remember any details.  First got "checked out" on the FW at the age of 7 
when I began to make aprons and skirts.  We sewed a lot of seams 
together, especially yards and yards of nylon net in the 50's days of 
prom dresses that wouldn't even go in the car, and you certainly never 
wore one twice!  The last garment of note that I made on this machine 
was my wedding dress in 1954.  

I bought my own FW in 1955 and sewed my way through three children on 
it.  In 1960 when we were stationed in Bitburg Germany, our third child, 
and only daughter was born.  My husband went off to Luxemborg one day 
for something leaving me home (in a pout no doubt) and came back telling 
me about a wonderful sewing machine he saw there.  It turned out to be a 
401 Slant-o-Matic which had come out in the states before we left for 
Germany.  A friend had one and I was green with envy.  Husband went back 
and purchased the 401-"G" (German model) and I ceased to pout.  Had to 
special order a manual in English, of course, but the S-o-M and I 
embarked on many more seams together. In 1962 or 63 we were back in the 
US, out of the service, and poor.  Sold my Featherweight in Las Vegas, 
Nevada for $50.  Never thought about it at the time.  Just needed the 

Years pass, I purchase a 920 model Futura 2; then a 6268 ultra something 
or other.  Never again have I sold a machine..... the 401-G resides in 
the home of my daughter who had just been born when I got it; the 920 is 
in my sewing closet; the 6268 something is on the back of my sewing 
desk, but up front where I use it is my mother's Featherweight, born in 

I almost didn't get her back!  Mother had no use for nostalgia, 
antiquity or such and was going to put her in a garage sale.  I just 
happened to be in the right place at the right time to put an end to 
that nonsense, but it was another year before I managed to get her in my 
car and securely home where she belongs. 

My cousin (from the sewing side of the family) is also a FW nut but she 
is not a computer nut, and until recently I thought she and I were the 
only ones crazy about Featherweights.  Thanks for listening -- I can 
hardly wait for the next mail run!

Date: Thu, 9 May 1996 10:31:12 +1000
Subject: Re: FW for sale in Australia

Hi Everyone,

It's a long time since I posted. DH and I have been travelling . We began
with the ISMACS convention in London and had a FANTASTIC time. The day
before the convention was cold with a light sprinkling of snow!! On the
first day we enjoyed a series of four seminars covering the history of the
SM, paper ephemera (trade cards, post cards and advertising material), Toy
SMs and a truly entertaining event conducted by Graham F . He revealed
his secrets about restoration, preservation, tools for the job,
electroplating and the best cleaning products to use. (He also included a
little light relief with a display of flame throwing!!!!!). During the
evening we enjoyed a four course dinner before the serious business of
judging the fancy dress competition. The theme was the roaring twenties and
there were some great costumes. If I remember correctly a member from Canada
was the eventual winner.

Sunday was the day of the big auction. Almost 200 machines went under the
hammer and we personally finished the day with 11 of them! Poor Graham lost
his voice but still amanaged to fulfill his role as auctionier. (You can't
keep a good man down).
There were displays of unusual SMs as well as a sales table for machines,
needles, books etc. I'm sure that most of us could have kept going for a week.

After a two week holiday we travelled to Washington DC for two days. The
main reason for this was to visit the Smithsonian and we weren't
disappointed. I loved DC and was amazed at the extent and quality of the
exhibits and it's all FREE!!!!!!. Two days just wasn't enough and we plan to
visit again sometime in the future.

Many of you have been asking Graham for some information about himself. I
doubt you'll get very far, he's too modest. I have known Graham for some
years and met him through the society. As Australasian representative for
ISMACS Graham, Maggie and I communicate on a regular basis. To describe
Graham in a few words is difficult but here goes... Imagine someone who
never seems to sleep, has a workshop where he can transform a heep of rusty
iron into a presentable SM, appears to know everyone in the antique business
in and around London and has an indespensible right hand (Maggie Snell) who
keeps him on track. Has agreat sense of humour (lots of ho! ho! ho!)and
always has time to talk to people. A mind like a computer with "batch files"
not only on SMs, but also on vintage cars, typewriters, aircraft, bicycles,
motor bikes and every antique event he's ever been to!!! Graham must have
enough info. to write half a dozen books but is probably too busy to sit
down and actually write them. If he keeps on posting his funny stories maybe
we can compile a volume for him!

From Brenda
Date: Wed, 8 May 1996 22:04:28 -0400
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 5/8/96

I have a FW 221 that was born on 12/10/48.  I'm looking for an oil can to go
with it.  Does anyone have one for sale?  If so E-mail me at
ManyPigs@aol.com.  I got my button holer and have tried it out.  I love it
and am so excited.  I love hearing all of the stories on here.  

Date: Wed, 8 May 1996 19:36:31 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: The Slaten Book

I'm with Chris V  on this one. The title of the book is "Antique
American Sewing Machines Value Guide". If you ignore the value part, this
is a book that has some pretty good pictures of old sewing machines and it
happens to be a book that is still in print. There is simply nothing else
readily available in the bookstores. I should know, I go to bookstores even
more often than I go to antique stores or old book stores.

Date: Wed, 8 May 1996 23:33:44 -0400
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 5/6/96

somewhere in here - somebody was looking for somebody to copy a book (i guess
to share) - i have copy connections at the moment - all i have to do is
supply the paper - let me know if i can help.

Date: Wed, 8 May 1996 23:13:13 -0700
Subject: I have copies of.....

I have made copies from the ORIGINAL  Manuals,  and if anyone wants a copy, 
e-mail me

1) Singer Buttonholer No. 160506 - Copy cost: $1.25 + postage
2)Singer buttonhole Attach. No. 121795 - Copy cost $  .75 + postage
3)Greist Rotary Buttonhole Attach. - Copy cost  $ .75 + postage
4)Singer Hemstitcher &Picot Edger for Lockstitch 
   Family Sewing Machine Co.  - Copy Cost  $ .75 + postage
5) New Home Series B sewing machine - Copy Cost $  $ .75 + postage
6) 5-pages instructions for using Darner - Copy cost $ .60 + postage

I have not priced in any profit here.....just asking for copying costs and 
All copies are made from ORIGINAL Manuals, NOT copies

I know what it is like to want a manual and not be able to locate one....and 
the charges
Singer is charging seem a bit outrageous to me, especially since their copy 
is not of 
an original, but of another copy, and leaves a lot to be desired.
Date: Thu, 09 May 1996 17:08:35 +1000
Subject: 201

I keep reading about the 201 having no belt.  I have a 201k which was made
in Great Britain and there is definitely a belt.  The manual has
instructions for hand crank, treadle and mentions the advantages of an
electric motor.  This was just one of the power options, similar to the 66
and 99.  Mine is a 1950 model and the motor came with the machine, it has
the knee lever control in the space where there might be an accessory box.
This is machine has internal bevel gears, rather than a bent shaft and it
runs very very quietly.  There are obviously many versions of each Singer
machine model.
Date:          Thu, 9 May 1996 09:15:01 +0000
Subject:       My Christmas gift!

Hi All,

I told you a while back about my dad getting me a 99 for Christmas 
(next). Yesterday the pictures of it came in the mail and it is a 
beauty! The bentwood case is wonderful, a few very slight scratches, 
even has the key on a neat little chain attached to the handle. The 
SINGER decal is in perfect shape. And the 
machine itself is cosmetically at least an 8+, NO PIN SCRATCHES! The 
beautiful centennial medallion, the pictures are clear enough to read 
every word. Manual, ruffler, tucker, hem foot, binder, adj. hemmer 
and extra bobbins. Get this, it also had FW bobbins in the 
case....Doesn't that make you wonder? Anyway, I was so excited to see 
the pictures, I just had to gush with someone who would understand my 
joy. Thaks for listening, Katy
Date: Thu, 9 May 1996 08:14:13 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 5/9/96

Hi everyone,

Yesterday after I made my post about the Model 66, I took it to the 
machine shop to get the motor rewired.  As I was looking at the machine, 
I noticed that the face plate was the scrolled one.  I thought these 
plates were only used until 1947.  I looked at the medallion to see if it 
could have been replaced, but it looked like it had been there from the 
beginning.  I just can't figure this out.

Also, Bobbie, I didn't mean to say that I hoped you would be very busy 
with the reprinted manual.  Sometimes my fingers type faster than my mind 
is working.  I mean't to say that I bet you would be very busy posting 
the manual.   Sorry--I would still be interested in helping you if you 
need it.

Date: Thu, 9 May 1996 20:25:12 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: FW's For Sale

   Thought I should post early because will be going out of town for 
Mother's Day, and also in vet city with one of our catz. But did want to 
update the new and delete the old.

AE  1936  Choice machine original tension dial just tuned and totally 
gone over, case has take the wear, no attachments , copy of manual, 
machine has a few pin scratches, and little blemishes on the bed. 
Scrolled faceplate. $395

AE  1938  Mint Condition, case, attachments, copy of manual, oil can, a 
few light pin scratches, original tension dial. $550.

AG  Case, Manual, some attachments, even wear $375.

AJ  Case, Manual, some attachments, even wear, $375.

AL Case, Manual, some attachments, even wear $450

AM  Mint, case, attachments, manual, egyptian gold stenciling. Great 
Machine $510

An assortment of AJ's and AL's for $450. (credit card accepted on these 

Shipping, handling, tracking and insurance $30. Feel free to e or call me 
for further info  Zsux
Date: Fri, 10 May 1996 11:00:26 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: My Machines and Manuals

Well, I've been lurking a bit reading all of the wonderful e-mail on the 
machines and I thought I'd share the story of how I got my machines and 
their manuals here in MI.  

Believe it or not I do have the manuals for all my machines! 
But I got two of them in a really odd way!  I bought ($30, I think!) my
model 99 from a couple who had gone to a flea market and picked it up
loving the bentwood case and thinking to turn it into a mailbox...can you
believe they never looked inside?!  When they got home and discoverd it
was a sewing machine they decided that it needed a home (must have been an
FWF at heart!) and put an add in the paper.  It is beautiful...I keep it
in it's case because it doesn't have a knee bar and I don't use it, it has
everything else though.  Then not a week later I came across another
machine (128-23) at a garage sale ($15).  The daughter was selling off her
mother's machine.  The Mother had some doubts and I suppose she's
regretting it now, but it has a good home and is leading a useful life! 
This one was banged up, the case was horrible, the machine was very well
used, I was assured that it worked though.  It didn't have a powercord
(probably the reason the mother was persuaded!) but it had a knee bar, so
I thought...hey!  kneebar!  Not knowing it wouldn't fit I happily took it
home and was disappointed when the kneebar wouldn't fit but I love the
machine!!!  I use her all the time now.  Anyway, it didn't have a manual
and when I looked at the manual that I got with the 99, I discovered it
was a manual for the 128!!!  How strange!  (Insert the Twilight Zone theme
here) I then managed to get a hold of some singer dealer and they had an
old 99 manual and a powercord and I think I paid $15 for both!  So I
managed to get manuals for my 2 machines in MI.  And to mention her so she
doesn't feel left out my 201 in NJ was a gift from a friend who had taken
good care of it and had all the intragal parts. 

My father just sent me an image of the 201 in my manual at home!  I've 
put it up on my "singer information" web page that I'm using to keep 
track of my singer information!  If you want to see it the URL is:

Take care everyone!  And good Hunting!!

Sheri B
Still looking for that $15 featherweight "oh, that old thing?  It was in 
a pile of my mother's junk in the basement, you can have it for $15, I 
think it still works."  
Date: Fri, 10 May 1996 12:41:12 -0500
Subject: toy machine for sale

Hello all,
I haven't acquired anything new in the last few weeks but in weeding out my
sewing room, I find I have a toy machine duplicate to sell.
It is a Singer - model 20 - with the word Singer in big gold letters across
it.  It does have a gold tone Singer medallion.  It is in 8 shape except
for one screw missing and needing a new needle.  As usual with these
things, there is no clamp with it.  I am asking $75 plus postage.
Also found a Singer Teenage Dressmaking Contest Qualifiers Award (this is
printed on the back of it)  It is a 3 inch long oval gold tone metal brooch
with a cut out silhouette of a girl in a very 50's style dress.  Asking $20
postage included.
Any interested email Shelley 
Date: Fri, 10 May 1996 15:39:53 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: Toy machine

I ran across a toy machine today, and was wondering if anyone knew 
anything about it.  It's a Holly Hobbie, battery-run, with a foot
pedal that is wired to it.  It's mostly plastic, so I don't think
it's valuable, but I thought my daughter might like it to play
with.  Has anyone ever seen one of these?

I have yet another "new" machine -- I was in a junque shop last Friday,
and came across a Singer 127 (born 1923) -- it was a mess!  I just
paid a few dollars for it but I think it was probably too much.  It
will probably sew again once I get all the gunk out of the shuttle
race and the innards, but the paint is all chipped, and the plates
covering the shuttle race are mismatched, both obviously off of 
another model machine.  (They don't quite fit right.)  On the other
hand, it shows signs of sewing smoothly, in spite of the abuse, and
what's left of the gold work is really beautiful -- very Art Deco.
It has no cabinet, and may never -- I may just keep it for parts.
(You know, in case I ever get another 127!)

In the same shop, I also saw a Willcox &Gibb.  What an odd little
machine!  I couldn't figure out how the belt hooks up, and to what!
(Of course, the belt was gone.)  It was attached to a stand that 
looked like a heavy metal frisbee -- no treadle, no cabinet, nothing!
I don't know what it would cost -- the shop owner had the piece on
consignment, and since she thought (from the way the patent dates
were printed on the base of the machine) that it was built in the
1700's, it's likely to be way too high.  (I tried to explain that
the date written "July 17  73" was *1873*, but I'm not sure it penetrated, 
even when I explained that the sewing machine wasn't invented until the 
1800's!)  I haven't had a chance to look it up in my archived FWF
mailings, but I remember some people have these things.  If anyone
is interested in it, I can find out more about it.  

I'm beginning to get irritated about people who take apart treadle
cabinets, too!  Today I saw one that had the wooden top taken off
and a fake marble slab bolted on to replace the top for a plant stand!
(This wasn't the first time I saw it, but I'm getting more irritated
about it because I need a treadle table!)  And I saw several orphaned
drawers -- one set of two that had been unbolted and was being sold as a 
little cabinet.

Well, I've rambled on long enough!  

Date: Thu, 9 May 1996 18:17:35 -0800
Subject: RE:Vintage Machines

Sherrie , who will continue to use her FW!
   Sherrie, I'm using my 1946 for quilting! It may end up with a few 
more scratches on the bed but I don't have a museum. I bought it to 
   We have quilt guilds around here  and they drag their 
FW with them. I feel most people buy them to sew with. At least the 
quilters do. 

   My Julie, because she's such a jewel, was made to sew! Sew she 
"wouldn't it be nice if common sense were common?" 
Date: Fri, 10 May 1996 16:47:51 -0400
Subject: featherweight

Hi All,
I just had to share my good fortune with someone who understands. Yesterday
in our local weekly paper there was a featherweight advertised for $175.
There was only a phone # and you couldn't call till noon. I work until 1:30.
I called at 11:45 and after asking some questions about the machine asked the
woman to hold it for me sight unseen. She said she would hold it until 2:00.
I raced ther after work and brought it home. It works fine, came with 6
attatchments, a case with two keys, an oil can, lubricating tube and an
original manuel. She said she had a number of calls after mine. I feel so
lucky! This is my third FW and each one has been slightly less exspensive
than the last. I hope this kind of good fortune holds up. Thanks for


While you were away with ISMACS I posted a request for any info anyone might
have on a machine I picked up. I got no replies. Maybe you could help me
identify it. It says "Improved New Cottage" on the arm, has gold, red, and
green decals on the base, arm, and face of the machine. The base is 13 1/2'
long and the machine is run with a Hamilton Beach motor although I think this
may have been added because it looks like it could have been run by a belt at
one time. The only number I could find anywhere is on the bobbin cover plate
- R4196899. It is a vibrating long shuttle bobbin. The closest picture I
could find is in Carter Bays book. It was a New Home model from around 1905.
Thanks for any help you can give me.
Date: Fri, 10 May 1996 19:48:39 -0400
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 5/9/96

        To make copies of booklets which many people cannot obtain cannot be
a reason for duplication of written material.  

        As a bookseller, I must tell you that you are reprinting copyrighted
material without permission.  I feel that I must alert you to the law.  If
you think some material has outlasted the copyright, contact a lawyer or see
your local librarian for the latest information. 
Date: Fri, 10 May 1996 18:37:33 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: SewHandy

At the auction house today I saw a SewHandy! My DH pointed it out saying
it's even
smaller than the Featherweights! Looks fine and all together - orange and
beige case -
didn't plug it in, 'cause I'm not interested (as yet!). Thought I had better
post here as this will be auctioned off on Monday - anyone want me to buy it
for you? and for how much? Will not want any profit for myself as I will be
there anyhow. E mail me at
sala@usa.net if interested.
Also, I have acquired a 99 with a great looking case and knee lever and a 15
that has
been "electrified" with a good maroon and beige case. Haven't thought much
about what I want to do with them - am just cleaning them up and then will
send them to the sewing machine man to have the motors gone over. If I do
decide to sell them, what price should they be? I know a quilter might want
the 99 with it's cute little beehive case, but the 15 is so heavy
(comparatively) maybe no-one except a collector could love it?
My sewing machine man has a bunch of attachments he might want to get rid
of, and he has a 301 for me! I can see how we can get so possessive about
this great repair people - he delivered a part to me and we discussed sewing
machines for over an hour.
I will post a list of any attachments he might want to sell in case someone
needs one of them.
Let me know about the SewHandy. the other Betty  
Date: 10 May 96 21:59:46 EDT
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 5/9/96

Date: Fri, 10 May 1996 23:19:25 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: my 66

I'm so excited!  Yesterday, I was headed to Massachusetts to a big mall to
make a return and, on the way, stopped at an antique barn.  It was three
sort of three barns all nailed together and looked pretty junky.

Anyway, went inside and found two treddle machines with high prices (not
Singers) and walked through to the back room where there was a cabinet that
looked like a sewing machine sitting right in front of me with a bread box
on it.

I removed the bread box and looked for a price sticker but could not find
one. I asked the owner "how much" and he mumbled something about his wife
and said, "Aw you can have it for $35!"  I pretended not to know anything (I
really don't) and asked if it worked.  He ran an extension and it purred!  I
called Singer and found out that it was born 9-30-41.  It is a model AG 194949.

The gold work on this machine is exceptionally beautiful.....on the front,
near the wheel, base and bed.  The left side of the machine has a gold color
and is etched with beautiful designs.

I only have one bobbin and would like more.  Anybody?

Also would be interested if anyone had a manual they would part with, for
money, trade, fabric, etc. (your choice) or a manual they could xerox for
me.  Will pay for it.

Just for the record, I have NEVER ever found anything like this.  But, when
we woke up yesterday morning, DH said he had dreamed that he tripped over a
little black box in some store and when he went to check it out, it was a
FW.  Singer, but not a FW!

Thanks for listening and helping. You can e-mail me privately ifyou wish.

Date: Fri, 10 May 1996 23:56:59 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Big E 

Hi:  Just want to let everyone know that the Big E in MA has a
sewing/quilt/Victorian craft show that is now going on.  Someone said it was
Fri, Sat and Sun but it was Thurs, Fri and Saturday! So, tomorrow is the
last day.  Opens at 10 AM til 6 PM.  Cost is $4 for adults, $3 for kids, and
free under age 5. Usual disclaimers apply.

I met a very nice gentleman there today named Bill Wivell.  He had several
FW's for sale and they were all in only fair condition.  However, he had
many toy sewing machines and boasts that he has over 100 antique toy
machines for sale.  They range from $40 to $500 in price.  Some are 96 years

If anyone is interested, e-mail me for his phone number. I'll be happy to
pass this information on.

The antique quilts were wonderful but the antique machines on display were
the best part of the show for me.  Absolutely wonderful!

Date: Sat, 11 May 1996 00:55:26 -0400
Subject: for Christine T. 

I know it was months ago, but you offered to send me pictures of your 99,
128, and 301 for my reference.  I tried to respond to your email but must
have done something with the address.  I'd still like to see the pictures, if
you're still out there.  Thanks.

Terry M 
Date: Sat, 11 May 1996 00:44:24 -0400
Subject: For Graham

Graham, please continue with the "True Stories".  I chuckled so much over the
old gal in the rocking chair that my kids came in to see what was so
entertaining on the computer. 

I didn't get all of True Story #13.  I was left in Belfast.  Did I miss the
Subject: 128,Spartan,Titan

I tried to send this message but apparantely the server here is having problems 
with phone co?

I have a #128 singer in a bentwood case,that I would like some opinions about.  
The machine has attractive red and green floral trim and is really good shape, 
7 0r 8.  It as been used, lint under the feed dog and wound bobbins etc.  But 
has neither a motor nor hand crank and does not appear to have been in a 
treadle.  The case is really pretty scratched up, especially the out side of 
case.  Do you supposed that whomever owned the machine sewed on it just by 
turning the chromed spoked balance wheel? I can sew on it slowly that way.  Or 
do you supposed it might have been a demonstrator that had been carried around 
lot?  Any other ideas?

I also recently purchased a Spartan in SCa or a trip.  The story that went with 
the machine it that it was purchased in 1959 as a part of a Singer promotional. 
 The machine sits in a hard plastic base that screws on.  It did not have a 
 I do not know if it might have had a case simular to a FWs.  The machine is 
like its name "spartan", no gold, chrome or trim.  And like the other reports I 
hear here it sews very well.  

I also have another machine that is interesting.  It is a Titan by Winselmann 
made in Germany.  It is in a bentwood case and has a hand crank.  This machine 
is actually lighter than the FW.  Even in the bentwood case it is lighter than 
the FW in its case.  Another oddity I found was when I went to put the needle 
in, it did not seem to have a stop.  I had to literally use trial and error.  I 
slowly lowered the needle and kept trying until it got to the point where the 
threads caught.  Now it sew a fine stitch.  But believe me I will mark that 
needle before I remove it again.  I'm guessing the machine is from the 20's. 
serial number is G995767.  Can any one tell me more about this machine?  

And Graham, one more voice, both my husband and I look forward to your stories. 
And I thank Sue and every one on the list, for I have learned so much.  Until I 
got on this list 5 wks ago, I would not have considered trying to deal with all 
these wonderful sewing machines.  I did already have 5 featherweights though. I 
now have 9 other machines, mostly singers. I do sell. 

Date: Fri, 10 May 1996 22:26:13 -0700
Subject: Copies of Graham's manual

I have not received the material from Graham yet......but I have received 
msgs. requesting information on this.

After I get the material from Graham, I will figure out how much each packet 
will cost
to copy.  I will then take that one packet to the P.O. and find out what the 
cost to mail
will be.

 I will then post those costs to the list, and request that if you want a 
copy of the manuals,
to send your check ALONG with a self addressed envelope, at least an 8.5 x 
11 size,
[so we don't have to fold the copy] with the correct postage.  You can fold 
that lg. self-
addressed, postage prepaid envelope when sending to me]

This will make it so much easier to send the many requests out.

Again, as soon as I get what I need, I'll post a msg. that I'm ready to send 
Date: 11 May 96 13:27:07 EDT
Subject: Two new machines today!

Hi All... Found my second FW today - an 'AJ' for $75. Machine's about
a 7.5, the case is an easy 9. All attachments and buttonholer. No manual
or oil can. Clean as a whistle, sews like new... I want to sell it, but
dear wife is reminding me that tomorrow is Mom's Day &she doesn't have
a FW yet... ($1800 Pfaff, yes, FW no - go figure).
For Graham (if you're still speaking to me)... I found a machine head
today. It's a VESTA with a vibrating shuttle. The shuttle from my #27
seems to fit, but I haven't tried to sew with it yet as the oil has
turned into tar... It is marked "L.O. Dietrich - Altenburg" with a SN
of 1116445 but with a tiny "M1". Any clue? Thanks and regards, Chris

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