Featherweight Fanatics Archives

September 1996

Sunday, September 15th - Saturday, September 21st

Date: Sun, 15 Sep 1996 00:49:08 -0400
Subject: Attachment 120687 (hemstitcher?)

I have this attachment here, #120687, that, according to some here on
the digest is a Hemstitcher. I have a Hemstitching and Picoting
Attachment #121387, and it's not the same thing. The 120687 is not a
mechanical attachment, but a simple foot, sort of. There is a foot
hinged to rock side-to-side, and a sort of flat metal arm that goes to
the right and down, then back across to the left to form the front part
of the foot, which is not hinged and has a small needle hole. Now, could
someone tell me what this thing is supposed to do, and how to use it?

Also thought I'd mention, just picked up a Darning and Embroidery
Attachment, like some that others that have been described, except the
part number is 160719. Has a small vertical darning foot, and very large
raised plate. This came in a perfect green/white/orange box and with a
manual that shows how to do all kinds of embroidery work. (Of course,
we'll use it for machine quilting more than for embroidery.)

Date: Sat, 14 Sep 1996 21:53:58 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Model 27 manual

To:  Barb Sawyer in Texas....the copy of the manual for the model 27 came
today.  You have no idea how much I really appreciate this.  Hope to figure
out a way to repay you.  If you can think of anyway in the meantime, let me

Sherry M
Date: Sun, 15 Sep 1996 00:54:00 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: More about bobbins and rubber motor pulleys

I thought I'd mention something that might not be obvious to everyone who
buys older Singer machines, or who is more used to featherweights.  Round
bobbins for your older machines are probably not as difficult to find as
you might think -- and probably not as hard to find as bobbins for
featherweights.  (My apologies to everyone who knows this already -- skip
the next two paragraphs, or risk being bored to death.)

If you've bought a machine with a drop-in bobbin, like a model 66 or 99,
or a 201, or a 185 or a Spartan (there are other models -- I just don't
remember them all) it probably uses a class 66 bobbin.  Singer still makes
these, and other manufacturers do, too.  It's hard these days to find
metal ones (most of them are clear plastic) but Singer still sells them. 
My local Cloth World sells the plastic ones in bulk for way cheap.  They
have curved sides, generally with only one small hole (although the batch
of Singer metal ones I bought last have several holes in each side.) 

If you have a model 15, or *some* other models with a vertical bobbin (the
kind that fits into a bobbin case, and the case gets inserted into the
machine under the needle) you can use the class 15 bobbins, which are also
readily available at the fabric store (and you can also find them sold in
bulk for cheap, if you like.)  In fact, a lot of modern machines do --
especially the ones that borrowed the "central bobbin" with bobbin case
design from the model 15 -- I think every single Japanese-made machine
I've ever seen uses these bobbins.  They are fatter than the class 66
bobbins, with straight sides, and generally they have holes all the way

Okay, you can wake up now; I'm done talking about bobbins.  My DH used my
little 99 today to mend a pair of shorts, asserting his independence and
establishing his ability to take care of himself.  I never doubted that,
but he probably thinks I do.  It makes me really nervous to have someone
else messing around with my computer and my sewing machines -- especially
because I know how he loves to tinker with things.  Anyway, he didn't mess
it up (other than volunteering the observation that the thing could be
wired better) -- in fact, he really liked it.  He thinks it's the
smoothest-sewing machine he's ever used.  (What have I been *telling* him
all this time!)  In fact, you'll be pleased to know that it has lots of
torque in the low end, and revs pretty well, too.  (This is my 99k that
has a UK motor on it, 220V, and I run it on a step-down converter I picked
up for $20 at a place called Electronic Parts Outlet in Houston, otherwise
known as computer geek heaven.  And it does, indeed, sew like a champ.) 

And, before I forget, whoever it was who was talking about the rubber
hockey-puck-like pulley on the end of the motor shaft that turns the
balance wheel on one of the Elna machines -- you're absolutely right about
rotating that sucker away from the balance wheel when you aren't using the
machine.  I had to replace the one on a 1930's New Home (which uses
exactly the same design) for that very reason.  It was relatively
inexpensive to replace ($6-7, I think) but still, it's a bother, and not
totally easy to track down.  And if you don't replace it, and you've got
that little dent in the rubber, it's really annoying when the wheel
doesn't turn for a moment, and you get that "klunk"  every time the pulley
rotates.  I hate it when that happens.

Okay, I'm done for now, I think.  I'll be quiet, and go back to lurking...

Terri (where the doves are cooing, and the ragweed is in fragrant bloom)
Subject: Manual

I'm looking for a manual for a Pfaff Model 360 for a friend.
Anyone out there have one?  If there is anyone with one,
won't you pls email me and we'll talk.

Thanks...my friend Chris will be very happy if I find one.

Date: Sun, 15 Sep 96 21:34:12 -0700
Subject: WANTED

       REGARDS      TANIA S
Date: 15 Sep 96 08:44:58 EDT
Subject: Re: Contribution 3

To all, especially TRK and other newcomers.
Collecting is a disease. We all have it but after a few years we look back at
the early days when we bought anything that looked old and regret it took so
long to become a little discriminating.
What I'm saying is, restrict your collecting to those machines you fall in love
with, to those in like-new condition and to those of historical importance.
We have a shelf in the store where we keep our collection. It's called the
PIDTOE shelf --put it down to over exuberance. There live the mistakes of the
past -- the ones we" rescued", the ones that "followed us home", the poor
examples of common machines that, had we waited would have been c9 models for
the same price.
We all work to a budget when collecting. Better to collect that budget until 
real thing comes along.

To Joan re quids

Quick, where can I get $2 for a quid (English pound). So that hundreds of 
members in the States don't think we are ripping them off for subscription
charges, I have to point out that one hasn't been able to get $2 for over 10
years. Current rate is $1.6 to the pound sterling.

I remember back before the decimal plague when we had 12 pence to the shilling
and 20 shillings to the pound. That's 240 pence to the pound. Then we had
sprarsies (6 pence), bobs (shilling), half-a-nicker (10 shillings> as well as
the official florin (2 shillings) and crown (5 shillings.

The only slang now apart from quid is a jacks or 'andfull (five pounds) and a
pony (25 pounds).

In the USA antigue area you have to quickly learn that a buck and a quarter is
$125 not $1.25. 
Date: Sun, 15 Sep 1996 23:10:45 +1000
Subject: elnitas and request

Debbie and Marilyn
About the Elnita.  I bought my "sp" in 1976 and it has sewn everything from
ballet costumes to a house full of curtains.  Still going strong and was my
workshop machine B.F. (before Featherweight).  Daughter has now claimed it
and makes weird and wonderful things in it.  This model was made in
Switzerland and I think was the last of the small machines made there.
Mine's never been serviced, just regular cleans and a drop of oil in the
bobbin case. Never had any problems.
Singer Dates
 I have two friends in a quilting group who whould love to have their
treadles dated. One is a model 27 serial no. V 334680 and the other is a 66
s.n. Y 7372967.  As I can't ring from Australia would appreciate it if
someone could make the call.  The 27 has moulding in the centre tilt out
drawer (could be a pull out one).  It looks like attachments shoud fit in
the recessed shapes.  Does anyone know wht goes where?
I am now the proud owner of a tan model 20 which came complete with its
clamp, seam guage, spool felt, box, screw driver and needle packet with
needles.  No manual though, any photocopies available?  Does the number on
the base indicate a date of manufacture.  This one is aluminium,  Made in
Great Britain No. 29962 with a small raised 6.
Thanks everyone for making this the most imformative list and welcome home

Date: Sun, 15 Sep 1996 09:31:18 -0400
Subject: Re: My next :Last and Final Machine

To Graham, 
  I got a laugh out of your post to my "Last and Final machine".  Yes, I did
buy another a week later and it was and is a beautiful Black 301,
Unfortunately it has a frozen head and it is at my Sm man to see if he can
fix it.  Warning to all: Do not take a wrench to the main shaft of your
machine , especially if he has threads on it!  I did and now he is trying to
clean up after me. Laur
Date: Sun, 15 Sep 1996 09:44:04 -0400
Subject: SW search

Yesterday we were in Melbourne, FL and decided to look around and see if
anyone has a 301a in black...... Well we found three sm dealers or repair
shops.  One only had computerized machines which were reconditioned.

The second one was closed, but you could see a greenish white FW with a
green and white case on the lower shelf. By looking closely we saw a price
tag.  ($599.00)  Boy were we surprised.   A friend bought one this past
spring for $235. at a repair shop in Orlando.  Granted the machine from
outside the store looked in excellant condition.   But a little too high
for our taste.

The last shop we found had three FW's starting at $300.  But of course I am
now looking for a black 301a.  He had a brown one for $195. which looked in
very good condition.  I also saw a two tone 301a in a quilt shop in
Longwood, FL for $125.

Since I can find other colors I hope to find a black and gold one in good
condition.  I am in no hurry.  After all I have four FW's to play with.

Date: Sun, 15 Sep 1996 09:44:17, -0500
Subject: Graybar Sewing Machines


  There is a Graybar machine in several different models and it's fairly
common.  I don't know who actually made the machines but Graybar Electric
is a large electrical equipment manufacturer and I expect they had an
arrangement to supply motors for one or more machine manufacturers and
their name went on all the machines that used their motor.  Some models
used the same needle as the Eldridge or National Rotary, some used standard
15X1 needles, and some used 20X1s like the New Home and Eldridge vibrators.
They seem to almost always be in excellent condition and are very
attractive with their shiny grey finish.
Date: Sun, 15 Sep 1996 08:16:28 -0700
Subject: Theading 301/Box repair

  Re: threading your 301.  Does the panel to the left of the uptake lever
swing open and reveal the threading diagram?  I teach sewing on Bernina's
and wish they had this feature.

  For those who have a beat up FW box, you may want to try decoupage glue
and a foam brush.  I was able to repair mine to my satisfaction.  Pretty
much saturated the fabric and paper to recover it correctly, as the fabric
was just peeling up at the bottom.  I stroked the glue on so it was all
going towards the bottom of the box.  The decoupage glue (Royal Coat) says
it leaves a satin  finish, so you can't really tell where you started or
stopped once it dries.  The paper waves a little, but on the bottom of the
box, I thought it was acceptable.  

Date: 15 Sep 96 11:42:56 EDT
Subject: Re: FW For Sale Postings 9/14/96

any one 
does anyone have manuals and attachments for a shuttle type singer.
just got this machine at a garage sale for 25 and want as much info about it as
possible.  seems to have been converted to elec ser k830054.  i believe it to 
a treadle type .  also interested in treadle cab if one is availabel for the
right price.  since i only paid 25 for it  cheep cheep cheep tia kathy
Date: 15 Sep 96 13:38:53 EDT
Subject: Singer Contribution Pt 1

By popular demand
Singer's sex life Part one
LIKING, as I do, a neat turn of phrase, I enjoyed tremendously the short 
of Isaac Merritt Singer given by the Torbay Civic Society in its leaflet
available at Singer's house "Oldway Mansion".
The leaflet spoke of his fleeing to France whilst being sued for alimoney with
seven co-respondents being named, but said that, once there, his
"philoprogenitive predilections" once more came to the fore and he gave six
children to yet another woman. This prompted me to dig  deeper into the marital
and extra-marital activities of the 19th-century bluebeard.
Isaac Merritt Singer lived over half his life in a hand-to-mouth sort of
existence, frequently poor, and when wealth was thrust upon him he was able to
spend the next 25 years making up for lost time.
He was born in Schaghticoke, New York. In early manhood he moved to Waterloo,
New York, where he got work as a wood turner.
He was married in 1830 to  Catherine Haley and their first child was born four
years later.
Even then it seems he was much given to consorting with other women, being 
popular with the fair sex on account of his natural ability as an actor and
In 1837 a second child was born to them in New York City where they were 
and this year was the last he spent with his first wife before going on the 
as a strolling player.
Wife number two was an 18-year-old Baltimore girl Mary Anne Sponsler. Singer 
her one night from the stage of the theatre in Baltimore where he was acting 
sought her out. It wasn't long before they were living in New York as man and
wife, having quite conveniently quarreled with  his legal wife at the same 

He told his new companion when she insisted that he must marry her that he 
do so as soon as he was able to get a divorce. Miss Sponsler had to share a
great deal of poverty with Singer in a relationship  which lasted 28 years. She
took lessons to fit herself for the stage and the two, under the name of Mr and
Mrs Merritt, played temperance pieces in churches all over the country. 
They followed this life for 14 years. They were wretchedly poor and everything
they had in the world was in the one-horse wagon with which they wandered from
town to town.
Whilst they were in Chicago Singer invented a reaping machine and later an
engine for carving wood type. This was the start of the Singers' fortune. In
1850 he had completed the inventions that made up the Singer sewing machine. He
returned again to  New York, but this time he set up a stylish accommodation at
No. 14 Fifth Avenue. The first, and only true, Mrs Singer seems then to have
been forgotten and banished to an apartment in Brooklyn.
Number two was everywhere regarded as the inventor's wife, her visiting cards
and invitations to parties that she gave bore the name of Mrs I M Singer. She
ordered goods at stores as Mrs Singer and Singer paid all the bills. She and
Isaac visited her parents at Baltimore as man and wife and so registered
wherever they stopped in hotels.
She bore him 10 children, which added to the two from Catherine Haley, brought
his score at this date to a round dozen.

to be continued

Graham F
Date: Sun, 15 Sep 1996 13:47:31, -0500
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 9/14/96

Nancy B. how did you replace the spool pin on your toy crank? I think I
must have just bought the same type you did. There are no numbers on it and
the only thing wrong with it is the missing spool pin. The machine is tan
with a tan case. Mine does not have the green felt on the bottom. The
bottom side is just open. I would really appreciate where you found to
replace the spool pin.

Date: Sun, 15 Sep 1996 13:03:00 -0400
Subject: greetings

Hello everyone!

I've been enjoying your corespondence for the last weeks and finally worked
up the nerve to ask for some help.  I have mom's old Singer and I don't have
a manual and have no idea what model it is.  Here's a description..
She goes forward, she goes backward, serial number AG14869, she is black with
gold, the fancy plate on the side . She is in a queen anne cherry cabinet
(with a matching storage stool) has gold decals around the edge in a
tigerlily type pattern and a sideways diamond shape decal in the center of
the bed. She has the light on the back, tension adjustment (with numbers) on
the back and a black solid wheeland a chrome flywheel. There is a big gold
seal beneath the stich length lever (doesnt have the screw on the lever) and
a big silver seal on the back next to the light. It has the knee control and
the cabinet has one slant drawer in the front.  I have a box of attachments
which I dont know how to use, or even what they are!  She is in perfect
condition and sews great, she looks kinda like a FW but a little bigger.  If
anyone can identify what model she is and has a manual (or a copy)  I could
have or buy, please let me know.
I learned to sew on this grand old lady (not well...but thats another story)
and I'd sure like to know more about her. 
I'm an avid collector -nothing I like better than the chase and it looks as
though I may be into a new hobby ... DH will not be pleased (or
surprised)....I was out last weekend and bought an "easy sew" lockstitch
 model #4205 or 49-12106 made in China and distributed by B. Pierce Toys in
Chicago. It's plastic and runs on batteries-but no manual. It was $19.00 -
did I do OK or was I taken for a ride? I know nothing about toy machines.  I
also bought a smallbag of "parts" for a buck. It has a bobbin holder in it
and some feet and other items. If anyone wants these pieces e-mail me and you
can have them.
Claire F - You were asking about info on an Elna TX.  I have one that I
bought about 10 years ago. I lugged it over to the scale and it weighs 14
lbs. It's a compact little machine and I bought it becasue I wanted something
small to take with me to quilting classes-I know now that I was really
looking for a FW but didnt know it! The Elna folds up with a handle on top. I
just got mine serviced-timing was off and it was making noises. I always seem
to have had problems with the tension on this machine but it is probably
operator error and not the machines fault. If you want a copy of the manual
 e-mail me and I'll send it out. I paid about $500.00 for the machine when it
was new.
Thank you all for being there, it's so nice to come home from work to some
"happy" e-mail. The stuff I get at work is no fun at all!
Enid B
Date: Sun, 15 Sep 1996 15:29:34 -0400
Subject: value of singer

hi there, i have a friend with a green singer 185J3. what do you know about 
this machine and what is it worth? the blue book says about $8.00 
but then we are collectors, right? it is about 3/4 size in a cabinet, and has a 
full instruction book that has been oil soaked. i would give 
the machine a 9 for condition but that is before dh has even looked at it.... i 
havn't bought it yet but am thinking about it... nancy 
Date: Sun, 15 Sep 1996 16:02:59 +0000
Subject: technical help with a Spartan 192K

I have a customer who picked up a Spartan model Singer at a yard  
sale. It's basically in very good shape except the motor lacks any 
real drive power. The brushes are fine and I've polished the armature 
with no improvement.
It is her intention to use the Spartan to repair canvass sails. It 
was the fact that the smaller size would accommodate the sailboat 
more easily that attracted her to the Spartan. 
Does anybody out there have an original motor for sale. It is marked 
as catalogue No. RFJ 9-8. Or if you think that there is a suitable 
replacement with an 'L' mounting bracket that will deliver the kind 
of drive power necessary for canvass, please let me know. Although it 
may be blasphemous to say so, keeping this machine in its original 
condition with original parts is not of primary importance, at least 
in this case.
To keep the commercial 'for sale' postings off the FWF, it may be 
preferable if you respond directly to me rather than through the 
Any help or suggestions would be appreciated.

Ted H
Subject: RE: FW Fanatics 9/14/96
Date: Sun, 15 Sep 1996 16:18:33 -0500

Hello All!

My Anniversary Featherweight, originally came with one of those "button" foot 
pedals.  You know, one
little iddy bitty knob to make that featherweight go!  Dad, Dale Pickens, on my 
"junker" featherweight 
(Looks UGLY, but man does it SEW!!!) subsituted a foot pedal, that encompasses 
the entire foot pedal.

The weekend of October 4th, Mom and Dad will be in Betonville Arkansas, and 
will be doing maintenance
on featherweights, and will have a featherweight or two, if you think you might 
want to look and purchase.

Sewingly along.......     Gail P
Date: Sun, 15 Sep 1996 17:49:15 -0400
Subject: Need Advice Re: Removing Labels, Tape etc. from Goldwork

Hi everyone,

Help!!  I've recently acquired several sm's with an interesting assortment
of sticky things applied to them.  I'm amazed at how resourceful the
previous owners were at creating their own "seam guides" -- bandaids,
electrical tape, masking tape, regular tape, etc.

Unfortunately, not all of this sticky stuff was used as seam guides.  I have
no idea why some of the tape was applied in the places it was applied, but
now I face the challenge of removing it without damaging the goldwork.  In
particular, I have one otherwise very nice 99 with a piece of dried masking
tape stuck over the goldwork along the edge of the bed and I have a
beautiful Standard with the label of the sm shop that converted it to an
electric slapped over a section of the goldwork.

Does anyone have any tried and true methods for getting this stuff off when
it is over goldwork?  I'd like to remove these eyesores, but I don't want to
damage the goldwork in the process.

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.  Thanks!

Date: Sun, 15 Sep 1996 20:35:12 -0400
Subject: Post: Weekend hits and misses

Only had a short time to look around today, but bought an Acme Dry Goods
thimble (does anyone out there collect antique advertising thimbles?)  and a
small lead oil can for $8.50 (too much, but too cute to resist!).
  Saw a poor condition 66 in lovely cabinet (did not buy - $225).  Wonderful
Touch and Sew in fake French Provincial cabinet (veneers from the 70's) for
 - hold your breath - $595.  Gorgeous walnut turn of the century cabinet with
a 27 in poor condition for $295.  I cannot get over the prices others say
they find - this area is overpriced, for sure.  (Almost fainted when someone
asked if $95 was too much for a great condition treadle in wonderful cabinet
and the response was MAYBE - but offer $75!..... I wish I could find such a
  Actually, the deals I want are the ones advertised in the repro 1900 Sears
Catalogue I got for $1.50.  $12.75 for the Edgemere (machine, attachments,
4-drawer cabinet), or the Burdick for $14.95 (6 drawer cabinet w/ center
drawer, etc.), or the $16.90 Burdick with the full cabinet (drawing-room
style - cabinet doors to the floor).  Fun reading.  
  If anyone is interested in a green Elna Supermatic that looks wonderful and
is in a wonderful case that folds into a table, mint condition manual,
appears to have all the attachments, let me know.  It's $27.  I will go back
and get it - but be forewarned, the motor sound like it is grinding, so it
would need some work in spite of good appearance. (Elnas are not on my want
  Found an EMPIRE handcrank - good condition, case in fair condition and no
key.  Does anyone know anything about these?  I left an offer of $70, and
consider that generous.  (Very low compared to the $295 begin price, $195
sale price, $150 currently offered price.)  Where do people get these prices?
  Still looking for information on the Vickers handcrank.  Again, overpriced,
but I think I want it.
  Have sent out the Greist attachment manual copies - I think I got everyone.
 If I missed one of you, email me again.  
  Hope you had a better hunt than I did.
Date: Sun, 15 Sep 1996 22:13:33 -0400
Subject: Wanted--301a Bobbin Case

Hi all--

   Saturday, another 301a came home with me from a rummage sale (brings me up
to 3 301s and 2 301a).  This one is a tan, long bed, with suitcase but no
bobbin case.  Although I can use a bobbin case from one of my other 301s, I
would like each machine to have its own.  So, if anyone has one available
please let me know.  Also looking for a set of attachments for it.

Date: Sun, 15 Sep 1996 21:28:35 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: Re:treadle books

Hi all.  My sister was given an instruction book for a Book 10 Automatic
Lift, Treadle, White Sewing machine, but it is missing pages #1-8 and
#13-16. I have a smigion of pg.13 which has on it "no. 200 Takeup screw for
needle bar bushing"  Does anyone have the missing pages? I would be glad to
pay for them.  I don't have the machine, it's more for the love of the print
than anything. 

I also have a copy of the instruction book for the Wheeler &Wilson No. 9
Family Sewing Machine (treadle) that was my Great-Grandmother's (yes, I have
the machine) It has 12 numbered pages plus several pictures.  and a copy of
the attachments instruction book form 97 with 8 pages. Ya'll who have them,
are these complete? 

Thanks everyone for reading this,  I just hate missing pages in my books!!

Mary-Ruth L. F
Date: Sun, 15 Sep 1996 23:23:48 -0400
Subject: Checking In

Hello Everyone,

I am just check in again after a few weeks off....  I started another Qtr.
of college courses this last month and have been kind of busy.  I have not
had time to do much antiqueing lately but I hope to make up for lost time
this week.

Congradulations on the FWF 1 year anniversery!!!

I am happy to see that Graham is back and safe from his trip.


Singer sent me a letter about that old machine that I bought with the inlaid
wood.  They say it is "Standard" made January 1869.  I have a picture on the
computer that I can e-mail you when you are caught up on the e-mail.  Might
you have a manual on the "Standard"?


Welcome to the FWF list... I know you will enjoy it and from what I can see
from your e-mail so far you surely have brought some additional insight
about old SM to the list.

So long for now everyone.  Happy Hunting...

Have a good day....  David  (:D
Date: Sun, 15 Sep 1996 23:36:50, -0500
Subject: W&W Boxes and Needles

To Cheryl Hall:
  I tried to e-mail you but my message keeps getting returned.  If you do
find another of those Wheeler &Wilson boxes for the price you paid for
yours I would like to have it.  Also, if your New Home is a vibrating
shuttle type and won't work with 15X1 needles, I have a few 20X1 size 14s
that are specifically for the New Home long bobbin machines that I would be
happy to send to you.  They're longer than the standard needles.

To All:
  I have three 1X4 needles for early Domestics (probably before 1900) and
one Domestic notched top needle that are free to anyone that can use them.

Date: Mon, 16 Sep 1996 00:17:25 -0400
Subject: Advice needed on family Featherweight problem!

Over the summer I was given my Aunt's Featherweight.  It had been in storage at 
cousin's for years because it had stopped sewing.  My cousin gave the machine 
to me with 
the stipulation that I could keep it so long as I did not sell it.  Now she 
says that 
she wishes it back because her father bought it for her mother and she would 
like to 
have something that was "theirs" together.  Seeing as both of my living 
are in nursing homes now and my mother is also ailing I can perfectly 
understand my 
cousin's feelings.  

The FW did not sew because the position finger was broken on the bobbin case 
base (a 
75-120 dollar part depending on who I have asked).  I replaced that, the cord 
(it had 
been "fixed" with lamp cord at some point) and cleaned/polished/waxed the 
machine and 
replaced the belt.  The only other problems with the machine is "below the 
bed".  The 
plastic on the 3terminal plug is chipped and some of the paint below the bed is 
missing.  From the bed up it is a solid 7 on the GF scale.  I am also in the 
process of 
restoring the case which had been left under a leaking pipe.  The fabric was 
rotten and 
falling off and the hardware was rusty.  At the moment the case is totally 
stripped and 
ready for sanding.  The bottom was out of it completely when I got it and one 
of the 
boards is missing.

In the interest of being fair to myself for the time and money I've put into 
the machine 
I am not just going to give it back.  (I mean...this cousin isn't even going to 
SEW on 
the thing.)  My question to FWF is what should I charge my cousin for a machine 
that is 
now serviced and working and has a case in that state of repair.  I would like 
to know 
both what you Fanatics would charge for this machine AND what you would pay for 
it.  Two 
totally separate things as we all know.  Please send advice via private email 
and I will 
post a synopsis to the digest for the interest of the group.

Thank you in advance, Jim (soon to be Featherweight-less   That will 
leave me with 
only 15 machines to play with!!!)
Date: Mon, 16 Sep 1996 00:38:32 -0400
Subject: Model 319


everyone,I was flea marketing today for the first time all summer.I came
across and bought a Singer model 319,with case and manual,at a very good
price.Does anyone know anything about it.Thanks for any input.my kind
regards to you all.Hope the summer took good care of ya
Date: Sun, 15 Sep 1996 22:07:58 -0700
Subject: Advice for Sharon

  Did you get a good chuckle off of my ignorance?  After advising you to
whip open the panel to the left of the uptake lever, I did that tonight and,
wah-lah, nothing was there.  I guess that started after the 301.  Well, I'm
feeling pretty sheepish.
  Anyway, the decoupage works . . . I tried that before I posted it!

Date: Sun, 15 Sep 1996 23:59:28 -0700
Subject: Update on Books

Hi Everyone,

To keep everyone posted, as stated from the beginning (July) the 
projected shipping date for the Sincere Books ws 12-14 weeks.

As of today, it appears we will be shipping the 2nd week of November.

If some strange thing like "luck" play a part in this, it could be sooner, 
but the 2nd week of Nov. is what I'm planning on right now.

It is also stated on the Website that shipping would be from 12-14

Guess all of a sudden everyone is balancing their checkbooks, and 
saying "hey, where are those books I ordered".  Rest assured....your
order will be filled, and you will receive the book(s) sometime in

Take Care, and if you know anyone who has ordered the books and
are not on the Inet, please, please, pass the word.

Many thanks.
Date: Mon, 16 Sep 1996 10:12:27 -0400
Subject: POST:  Featherweight found

Forgot to mention yesterday that I did see a featherweight in Alvin.  (Talk
about losing focus!)  She is asking $325. Case is only slightly worn, machine
has a lot of scratches and gold paint worn in spots.
Appears to have all accessories, tho I did not see a key.  Manual good and
attachment box fair.  She seems agreeable to offers.  If interested, email me
and I will tell you where you can find it.  (I have no financial interest in
Date: Mon, 16 Sep 1996 10:15:04 -0400
Subject: Singer zigzaggers, monogrammers

There has been some discussion about the Singer zigzaggers &

In the 1970's Singer came out with 2 monogrammers for their Slant
Needle machines:  One had round cams &made 3/4" high letters. 
This set came complete with all the cams, which came in a separate
box.  They also had the professional monogrammer, which had
rectangular cams &made 1 1/2" letters.  This one came with no
letters, but a daisey cam and a certificate for 3 free letters
by mail.  Additional ones came to $1 or $2 by special order.
Needless to say, buying all the letters tripled the price of
the monogrammer.  So if you find one of these, it will be very
hard to get more letters.  You will have to track down a dealer
that stocked the letters.  Many did not and just ordered on demand.

I also just found out and bought a 3rd cam set for the zigzagger.
It had cams 9, 10, 11, 12, Singer part numbers 161067, 161068,
161069, 161070, respectively, and the tops were sprayed blue.  
The descriptive names are key, ball, block,shingle.  The date
on the instructions was 10/55.  
Date: 16 Sep 1996 14:45:44 +0000
Subject: Stuff

To The FeatherWeightFanatics, One &All

A question?  Could someone tell me why sometimes when I access my mail, I 
have two txt files
to click on, one being the header text for the FWF and other the actual 
text.  Most of the time,
the text is just there...why does this happen?  it doesn't happen at home, 
just work computer...

To Elaine, re:  LOTUS

You and everyone else.  I've had Elna for years, but never got the Lotus, 
even tho I came close
years ago, when it was "current."  Recently, I had an opportunity (I 
thought) to buy one from a
Singer Dealer for $150, as my mom wanted it.  She travels around, visiting 
her 10 children and
she feels naked without a SM.  When I saw it, I thought to myself, this is 
the One for her, very
light, etc...well, to make a long story short, the dealer told me that the 
person who owned it
changed their mind, probably because (he said) someone told her she could 
get more money for
it.  When I wanted to buy it, I had no clue that anyone else would want it 
or that a "LOTUS"
snowball was building up.....

It appears that unless you get lucky enough to get one at an estate/garage 
sale, you will have to
pay Big Bucks.  I noticed recently someone on the Digest mentioned a dealer 
that had two and
was selling them for $400 each....so, I guess unless I get lucky, my mom 
won't have one...I was
even thinking of trading for one.....

To MaryJo:

I had heard the Capitalist Romance was being re-published, but hadn't seen 
it...could you tell me
the name of the publisher?  I have it from the library and it's 
overdue....so I would really love to
buy it...

About the Factory....I could bring in the magazine and scan the 
picture...it's black &White.  My
problem is I'm not sure how to send an attachment.  I send them all the time 
within the
workplace.  I don't think I can send them to other address, but not 
sure...maybe it's that I can't
receive them...I'll have to check it out and see.

I had dinner on Thursday night with a bunch of friends who've retired from 
the company...one is
a very dear friend who lives in Austin.  She told me a couple of years ago 
that she would give
me her mother's FW when her aunt ....(who she gave it towhen her mother 
passed away) went to
either the nursing home or....to join her mother.  She reported that the 
Aunt is 100 years young
and still going strong on the FW!  I hope I have to wait 30 years, but I 
thought it was cool that
there are FWer's out there a Century Old.

This is just a quick one...over &out.

PS:  I was hot on the trail over the weekend, and "just missed" several good 
ones (1 FW); I hate
when they say:  "Oh, they just left 5 minutes ago!"  Meaning, I kick myself 
profusely, knowling I
should have been there sooner!
Date: Mon, 16 Sep 1996 11:56:45 -0400
Subject: Wanted:  201K manual copy

Hi all!  My BIL has enlisted himself in my FW search, and called to report
that there was one in an antique store for $199 and, later, another found at
a garage sale for $30.  He bought that one.  He gave me the serial numbers
and a description of the machines. After calling Singer 1/800, they turned
out to be a 99K and a 201K.   If anyone can copy a 201K manual circa 8/19/48,
I'd be most appreciative and gladly cover costs.

BIL hinted that the 201K might be my Christmas present.  I'll take it!
Subject: Wanted:  Manual for Kenmore model #158-10400
Date: Mon, 16 Sep 1996 15:35:21 -0400

  Chris:  Sorry to hear you don't have a copy of the manual.  Yes, I 
tried Sears a month ago-no luck.  Thanks for checking.

  Bobbie:  Though the machine reads model #158-10400, the manual cover 
should read Model 104, 1040, or 10400.  Sears normally used the 1st 3-5 
numbers after the hyphen on the cover of their manual.  Description you 
requested:  Looks like a small version of the Kenmore, early 1970s, 
weighs 20 lbs. with case.  Plain, two tone (lt. cream/khaki green).  All 
dials/knobs are silver colored.  Top of machine (rt. side near bobbin 
winder) has large stitch selection dial (red "S", symbols for stretch, 
zigzag, blindhem, buttonhole).  Front of machine, rt. side, is a large 
stitch width dial.  Below this &to the right is small reverse knob.  
Right side of machine, large handwheel knob, below that is small stitch 
length dial &on/off switch.  Small zigzag needle plate pops out &can 
be replaced with straight stitch plate (included).  Front bed portion of 
machine has small plastic attachment box that slides in &there is 
another piece (flips up &removes) that covers it forming the front 
sewing surface of machine.  When removed, the front bobbin area is 
exposed (typical front loading configuration).  Attachment box is well 
stocked.  Full size plug in foot control/plug stores on bed of machine &
it all fits snugly in a plastic white carrying case (about the size of 
portable manual typewriter). 
  I found this machine at a thrift shop last month  and it came complete 
except for the manual.  If anyone has a manual I can purchase or a 
photocopy of one,  please e-mail me at    connorw@earthlink.com        
Also, if anyone knows anything about this machine (years produced,  
number produced, original purchase price)  I would love to hear from 
you.  Thanks so much, Kathy C
Date: Sat, 14 Sep 1996 18:10:10 GMT
Subject: Singer ads

Hey gang, 
        Went to LOTs of tag sales this weekend only tio find kenmores and 1
domestic portable.This one was in great shape and a light blue color.If I
weren't trying to conserve space I might have grabbed it
         Did find 50s McCalls mags with Elna Supermatic and Necchi ads in
them.The Transforma sold for $179.00 in 1954,The Supermatic price was not
         A 1955 Ladies Home Journal had a full page ad on Singer SMs.Showed
a 66, automatic zig zagger,Slant needle which I guess is the 301 in beige,
and a Swing needle automatic.Which one was this????Its also beige in color.

Great advertising ads and I love to brouse these oldies. 
Hope you all had a productive weekend!! 
Date: Mon, 16 Sep 1996 13:54:42 -0700
Subject: Belvedere

Was out looking at 'junk' today and saw something interesting. An old 
50's  machine.  It was a Japanese knock-off type.  The interesting thing 
about it was it was black and had paint designs just like a 
featherweight.  Was really odd to see!  It was a portable but was missing 
the lid and the bottom of the case was shot,otherwise it would have been 
fun to have as an oddity. I guess the Belvedere style of Precision 
machine company was to ride on the laurels of the FW!   Has anyone else 
seen one of these?   Taria
Date: Mon, 16 Sep 1996 14:51:41 -0400
Subject: Machines Sighted

The local Sew n Vac has the following machines that he is selling or willing to 

Model 327.  The blue zig zag machine that is one step down from the 328...ie it 
does straight and zig zag stitches...no cams.  It has the case.

A "little brother" to the above.  No model number in evidence.  Blue.  About 
the same 
size as a FW but this one is cast iron instead of aluminum.  Straight stitch 
only.  No 
case.  Originally it was in a cabinet as the hinges are still on the machine.

Model 66.  Out of case.  Reverse.  Approximately condition 7 (I'm doing this 

Model 99.  Out of case.  Reverse.  Looks better than the 66 mentioned above.

Model 403.  Zig zag.  Needs cam to do any zigzag stitch.  Has the "0" zig zag 
cam.  He 
had just gotten this one in.  It needed a cleaning and servicing.  No other 
 After it is cleaned it should be a 7 at least.

Model 317G.  Made in Germany.  Early zig zag.  (Predecessor to the 319???)  Has 
Buttonholer.  Manual.  It is a tan machine.  Has the motor that runs it via a 
belt like 
the 99/66/127/128 machines.  It also has the holes in the bed for a treadle.

Singer Genie.  Plastic.  Zigzag.  From the responses I received when I posted 
about this 
one it is a good little machine.  It has not been serviced as of yet though.

Contact me via private email for contact info and any other questions about him 
or the 
machines.  I'll be happy to check them out specifically in person.

Date: 16 Sep 96 14:30:13 EDT
Subject: Naming Machines?

Just curious -- why/how do people name their machines?  I was amused at Clay's
home page ... he had some "male" machines .  I know quilters "name" or title
their quilts, but don't exactly know why ....
Date: Mon, 16 Sep 1996 21:09:35 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Goldwork


I'd suggest using WD-40.  It seems to remove almost anything PROVIDED you
let it soak a little.  Best "abrasive" for the job is probably your
thumbnail (I'm NOT kidding); next level of "abrasive" I would recommend is
a piece of nylon net about 5 x 15 inches.  Fold it in half lengthwise,
then wind this strip around the first three fingers of your hand.  You'll
have an inexpensive, disposable pad that won't damage a sound finish (no
crackling, no chips, no flaking, etc.).  In a pinch, dump your onions and
use that bag -- same effect.  In all cases, work very gently.

Date: Mon, 16 Sep 1996 21:44:00 -0700
Subject: 403a

Hi, all,

I took a look at DH's grandmother's singer last night.  It's two tone browns
and it took me forever to find the model number - tiny numbers above the
stitch regulator.  Anyone know anything about this machine and whether it is
worth keeping?

Subject: Lucky Day

  Since Pat and Al Davis got my husband and I hooked on FW and 
associated items, my husband often stops off at Saturday estate sales.
  A few weeks ago he went to check out an ad that boasted two or 
three "antique" machines.  By the time he got in the door, there was 
only an expensive 201 of interest, but a little too pricey.  I was 
happy, however, with the bag of assorted attachments he brought home. 
 He got a hemstitcher (still not the throat plate I need for FW), the 
original zigzagger, blind hemmer-all in like new boxes with manuals.  
Also, a box of the complete attachments (can always use extras) and 
the coolest thing of all, a Singer pinker in the box with clamp. I 
didn't know about these, but it pinks like crazy in a neat wavy edge 
and is SHARP.  I have been using it alot and it is fun.  It looks 
like it was never used and has gold lettering and a beautiful shiny 
hardwood crank.  His total tab under thirty dollars and he found ten 
dollars on the sidewalk on his way to the car.  That's a lucky day!  
However, the lady had no feedsacks.
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1980 22:27:02 -0400
Subject: Bobbins

Terri's post of 9/15 made me realize that I had forgotten to tell the digest 
that I have 
updated my sewing page to include pictures of class 66, 15 and 221 bobbins.

I have also added the secret family recipe for peanut butter and chocolate 
fudges for 
all of the desert fanatics out there.

Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 02:38:31 GMT
Subject: 201

Hi everyone! 
            I recently got my 201 and LOVE it.IMHO I think its got every
bit as nice a stitch as my FWs do.(sometimes better)I've heard others
comment on theirs but am suprised that theres not much more talk of them. 
This SM- machine quilts like none other I've got and thats ALOT.Not
tempermental in the tensions(like my Elnas are) heavy enough(god awful
heavy) to do about anything I ask of it.It just seems to me it really LIKES
to sew!I've got others that almost moan when I take them out for a turn at
piecing. Like they have a hangover or something.My 201 is like a happy
puppy that likes to please. 
One thing I want to ask other 201 owners.Does your handwheel turn easily or
is it a bit stiffer than most other models.I've greased the tubes and oiled
her to death but I'm not sure with the way she was built if the wheel is
supposed to be this stiff.Seems to hesitate when first get her going
too.After a good warm up she hums right along. 
Now for the Elnas.These are nice machines but the tensions are driving me
nuts.They both worked but when I changed the threads and put in new needles
they won't form a  stitch on a folded piece of fabric.They will on a SINGLE
piece, what does that mean??I've adjusted tensions till I'm blue but no
go.I've started from scratch so many times I don't need a manual
anymore.(G)Someone having the same problem please let me know so we can
figure this out. 
Thanks for listening, 
Date: 16 Sep 96 14:16:28 EDT
Subject: This and That

Graham -- I got your e-mail and will read it carefully to find out exactly how
much I need to write the eurocheque for  ISMACs ... thanks for the "tip" about
the Singer magazines--I'm sure if you can't afford them I can't afford them. <
Too bad.
Pls. continue to answer all those posts that you had waiting for you ... we all
learn a lot from everyone.  

The Singer 27 vibrating shuttle: (that's what I have) thanks to everyone who 
responded to me about a box.  I'm still confused, though.  Did the boxes have
their own stock number?  I have a lot of attachments, but now am worried if I
get a box that they "won't fit" -- any ideas how I ascertain though the mail
whether I am getting the right box?  I am eeking out my"fixes" -- I won't even
think about the attachments until I get the machine cleaned up (thank you to ??
for the tip of black Turtle Wax) and the cover repaired.   I may have found
someone who can work on the case sooner than I thought.

Graham: re the Singer 27 -- any ideas about my A.....serial number? Made in
Scotland?  Won't be able to think about sleuthing here for a couple of weeks,
but it is constantly in my mind.  I'm trying to figure out, also, who I might
ask about the toy sewing machines.  Right now everything is Barbie, etc -- and
they are selling the old heavy metal/hand painted toys (tanks, etc) that I sent
my brother 10 years ago from here for over $100.  The dealers know that people
are collecting stuff w/the old Red Army star on them.  Hmm... maybe I should 
them.  This flea market place is very interesting.  It is mostly stalls of what
I call souvenir slock--row after row of newly
(last night, probably ) varnished matrioshka dolls, and then in the upstairs
area people just have "junk" out on the ground -- that's the really interesting
Date: 17 Sep 96 12:21:01 EDT
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 9/16/96

hey all
just got another singer ser k830054 born in feb 1902 roginally in a treadle.
has shuttle type bobbin.  any one know anything about these?  i havent got a
manual or anything with the machine.  any cabs for treadle 4 sale.  need 1 for
this newbee to my starting collection.  need all the info about this type of
machine including extra bobbins and all attachements if any one hass info email
me at my private address
kathy r
Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 12:45:48 -0400
Subject: An Anniversery Machine....


I've been in silent lurk for a long time now.  I enjoy all the stories but
haven't had much new to report since Mothers day when DH gave me a 99-13.

Well he pulled it off again....with the aid of a friend this time.  Some of
you may remember that a year or more ago when I first joined I found out a
friend had just sold her mom's FW for $65 at a yard sale unknowing that I'd
be interested.  Well she called my husband last week knowing our wedding
anniversy was Friday and told him she had spotted a FW at a local Jewish
Thrift Shoppe.  

So on Friday the 13th (who said "unlucky"?) he completed my FW collection.  I
now have one tan, one white and finally at last a BLACK one.  I seem to have
gone about this a bit backwards.....everyone else finds a black one and
begins questing for the less common white and even less common tan.  I
stumbled on (and almost past) a tan one first.  Actually DH collared me and
said "hey isn't that a....."  "NO" - I replied.....(after all it was the
wrong color).  He won I looked again.

Anyhow - I now have a lovely little black beauty.  Seriel # AF so circa 1938
and I guess a 8 on G's scale.  Hard to say.....the finish is glossy and
bright and no wear I can dicern on the gold at all.  But if you look in the
light it does have a good number of pin scratches on the bed.  The chrome is
all bright except 2 of the attachment and one bobbin are the "blued" metal

The case needs work.  The bottom is loose and the leather handle is missing.
 The black paper is pretty scuffed on the bottom and on the corners.  It does
seem to have all its attachments including oval oil can and keys.  The
latches and hinges are fine and the tray but no box for attachments, or
envelope for the keys.  Also no manuel  :>{{  I'd love to find a manuel for
it if anyone has a spare (yeah right) I guess a copy will have to do.  It
seems I've seen postings for someone who does this for a modest fee???

Let me close this before I gives people a headache due to length!!!!  Until

Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 12:12:03, -0500
Subject: Collecting Disease

I loved the advice you gave on the collecting disease...

  "Restrict your collecting to those machines you fall in love with..."

  Great advice...especially to those of us with very limited sm budgets.
  Thanks...you always seem to have something wise to say. g!
Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 12:33:38 -0700
Subject: Finds? I can't buy

Hi All, and many thanks to you, Sue for a fantastic job!!
I"m new to this shared passion, having only dabbled in FWs on a small basis
but now that I am being exposed to a richer mix of the mania, I scarcely
know how to handle the excitement!  Today I went to my favorite browsing
spot and noticed all sorts of things I"ve not noticed before:  OLDer
machines, some with cabinets, some 'bare', one in a hideous case.  One
centenial (model?), AJ962460, in cabinet, $110.
Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 12:33:51 -0700
Subject: Sightings &info

Hi all---New to this stuff, THANK YOU SUE!!  Yesterday I sighted a
66,(AC488795, mfg 1/9/29  $25) a 201, (AJ 962460, mfg 11/6/50 . .a
centennial in cabinet with bench and all the stuff that the owner had been
using, plus attachments and buttonholer $110) and a 99 AM 266987, mfg
10/21/55 $45).  Could not buy them, am in northern CA and if anyone is
interested I will try to corral any/all for you.  Holly.
Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 16:45:45 -0400
Subject: stuff

To Mary L:

I just bought "A Capitalist Romance..." at Borders.  It was in the
Sewing Section, rather than in Biography.  The publisher is Kodansha
International &the price for the paperback is $14 or $15.

I have an FTP site that you could push the scanned file to &then I
could announce its presence &anyone could pick it up.  Since my
FTP site has an automatic cleanup program, I can store it safely
on a background system &periodically put it up on the FTP server.
send me email if you want to do this.

Why is your email broken into 2 portions?  Internet mail consists of
a header packet and a message packet.  This is due to the historical
design of it.  On your mail server, there is a separate queue file
for each one.  Your mail program is supposed to patch them together,
so that you, the user don't have to deal with that.  Your mail
program probably has hiccups.

Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 14:36:42 -0700
Subject: Capitalist Romance

Mary, the book is written by Ruth Brandon and published by 
J.R. Lippincott Co. (Phila. &NY)
Copyright 1977
ISBN 0-397-01196-2

Every once in awhile, I see it in Used Book store, for about $12-$15..if you
want me to keep my eyes opened for one for you (used), just let me know.

Date: 16 Sep 96 14:16:36 EDT
Subject: Web sites

I've just had the chance to read the last four or 5 days' digests, and had fun
getting on the web and tracking down things that people have mentioned --

I hope for the sake of newbies like me that people will continue to mention web

You all must get a chuckle -- a local internet provider here in Russia connects
me to you all -- Clay, TR, Charles, Chris, Wendy, and more -- sure makes
my day.  You know I've become addicted to this when I press my nose to the
computer screen to get the "closest" I can to looking at photo of a machine on
line...  that reminds me, I'll have to get my DH to get some photos of my 27
done so I can send them to someone to make famous on the web .
Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 18:29:30 -0400
Subject: Recent finds

Hello all you Fanatics!  

I go to estate sales every Thursday and Friday on my lunch hour.  Lately,
I've found some real treasures which you'll all appreciate.  I haven't had
time to play with them, but I'm hoping they'll all work on my FW.

Singer Automatic Zigzagger, Part #161102, complete with instruction manual.
 Doesn't look like it was ever used.  Cost me $5.

Singer Buttonholder, Part #160506, complete with instructions, 5 templates.
 Also contains set of 4 extra templates (Part #160668)  and a second
additional box labeled Eyelet Template (Part #161231).  All of this was $2
and I sure hope it fits my FW.  Came in textured green plastic box.

Universal Sewing Machine Attachment that makes Buttonholes:  Sews on Buttons,
Darns-Mends, Attach Zippers, Quilts, Overcast Seams.  Fits any Sewing
Machine.  Made by London Specialties Co. copyright 1946.  I don't know what
this is but I bet someone out there does.  It looks like a piece of wire with
several loopy-loops on it and has directions (which I haven't read yet) and a
pink plastic buttonhole size guide.  It was a $2 gamble--did I do well?

About 20 issues of McCall's Needlework from the '30s and '40s--several of
which contain Singer full-page ads (including some great ones during WWII
about how Singer was not making machines and was making munitions and that
you should see your local Singer dealer who would rent you a sewing machine
by the week, day or HOUR!  After I go through these and photocopy what I want
(mostly handknitted sock patterns), I will offer them for sale to the group,
I think! 

Finally, today I found a Singer Stocking Darner, Part #35776.  Originally
cost $1.45, I paid $3.  It's a circular spring-like contraption and you roll
the sock over the springs so you can access the hole and darn it easily.
 Also had directions for mending underwear!

So, what other attachments are out there for my FW?  

I have a lead on a FW table, but have no idea what they run.  I'm sure
there's a wide range of prices, but can any of you share with me what those
prices are?  Thanks so much!

Today I also saw a black 66 in a ?cherry? cabinet for $40 and a tan 301 in
?bleached oak? 4 drawer cabinet, no price that I could find.  I'm not
interested in either but I'm letting you know the prices for your reference.
 Also a pink Jetson buttonholer (slant needle), again no price.    

I'll post soon about _my_ collection of SMs.  And I'll keep an eye out for SM
accessories and will share what I don't want.  After all, I'd hate for any
accessories to feel unwanted or unloved!  

Karen A
Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 21:03:12 -0400
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 9/16/96

Hi.  I have just joined FWF, and am glad to know that there are other sewing
machine obsessive types out there.  I now have eleven machines, and since I'm
in the process of remodeling my house so that I'll at last have an actual
SEWING ROOM, I can't really get my machines out to examine them.  I'd like to
know if anyone has any info about the manufacturer and/or the age of the
following machines:

"Unique" (electric)
"Old Faultless" (head only--must have been a treadle machine, but alas, no
"Damascus" (saw this in a second-hand store; I haven't succumbed to the
"buying bug" on this one yet, but I am curious about it)

Also:  Does anyone know how old this machine might be:
a Singer model 15-90 serial #JC275675 marked "Made in Canada" just below the
Singer logo on the head (I called the Singer 800 #, and they said that it was
made after 1960, but it looks almost exactly like my 1948 model 15, so I
think that date may be wrong).

I'm enjoying all your posts.  By the way, I do own a Featherweight in very
nice condition. I inherited it from a very dear family friend who died last
year.  (It even has the oil can!)

Mary Ann
Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 20:56:52, -0500
Subject: General Electric Portable

My DH and I went antiquing today and came across a little black box that
was marked down to $125.  My heart did a flip flop until I opened the box
that was missing it's handle.  Inside was a light green General Electric
machine that was about the same size as a FW but probably twice as heavy.
Does anyone have any info about this machine?  I also saw a small light
green machine in a rust colored cabinet that said it was a child's sewing
machine.  It was electric and $85 but I can't remember what kind it was.
Does anyone know anything about either of these machines and are the prices
right?  I know the toy and children's machines fetch a good price but I
really thought the GE machine was overpriced.  Sandie where it is starting
to cool down.
Date: 17 Sep 96 17:46:43 EDT
Subject: Travel info needed

This request is going to several lists, so please pardon any duplication. 

I have the good fortune of going on a 24 day cruise next summer, a trip of a 
lifetime. Of course, one of my primary goals is to see as much textile-related 
stuff as possible. So if anyone has names and locations of quilting, weaving, 
knitting or other textile related things/people in the following cities, please 
let me know. I chose this particular cruise because of the Shetland Islands 
stop; weavers, spinners and knitters understand my desire to see the Shetlands; 
others have said "why on earth the Shetland Islands?" Anyway, here is the 

London, England
Edinburgh, Scotland
Invergordon, Scotland
Lerwick, Shetland Islands (have already written to Jamison &Smith)
Andalsnes, Norway
Molde, Norway
Geiranger, Norway
Flam, Norway
Bergen, Norway
Stavanger, Norway
Hamburg, Germany
Copenhagen, Denmark
Ronne, Denmark
St. Petersburg, Russia
Helsinki, Finland
Stockholm, Sweden
Helsingborg, Sweden

Thanks for any help you can give!

Subject: Stuff

Hello All:  it's very nasty, cold, windy, &rainy in New Jersey.  My mom 
brought it with her from Ohio, I think.  She said she couldn't wait to get 
back to New Jersey where it was warm and sunny...well, it was til she got 

Now she's getting bleary eyed reading up all the back digests since July 2nd 
(that's how long she's been away).  It was hard for her to be without a 
machine, and that's why my next Goal SM is definitely a Lotus (did you read 
the article in Threads about the Lotus?  That should drive the price even 
more!) or something of the ilk.

To Graham:

On a very minor scale compared to you &Maggie, I understand what you mean 
abouit the PIDTOE thing.  With me, it's not ONLY SMs....there ARE a few 
other areas of  and we are having storage problems, and with DH!

And I'll never really understand English money unless I move over 
there..then I would have to!  I made DH give me a pile of coins one of his 
Brit customers gave him as a tip, because they were "cute."  (It wasn't easy 
to make him part with cold cash, even English!)

Do you know what ever happened to Isadora Duncan's son by Paris Singer?  As 
this conception was not by the Legal Route either, I wonder what happened. 
 I guess the kid would have been born around 1910 or so, but am not up on 
these dates...so it stands to reason that his grandchildren or 
great-grandchildren should be around somewhere....I thought the thought of a 
Singer + Isadora should have produced a very interesting progeny...

To Laura:

Your note really made me laugh...I'm trying to remember how many times I 
bought my Last &Final Machine....but I'm sure it's more than 

To Bobbie:

We're all panting for the Books....pant, pant, pant!  You've been working 
your poor self to the bone....take a minute and smell the roses or whatever 
it is that grows in that Beautiful Hot Box you live in...(I know it's 
beautiful, as I was there a long time ago for about a month)...did you get 
the photocopy I sent to you yet?  Did you note that Graham was talking about 
purchasing a set of Internal Singer magazines.  GRAHAM:  you didn't mention 
how many of them you were talking about and what was the span, from whence 
to whence?  (Could you provide me with the figure and/or tell me if you 
think it's a valid one, as I plan to engineer a search to get the whole 
series of Singer Lites from Elizabeth...


Well, it's September...it makes me feel the garage sale season is getting 
shorter.  I wish I could find those auctions that others find so many SMs 
at...how are they advertised?  I only see things like offfice furniture, 
tractors, cars, or other weird stuff that I have little interest in...unless 
they just throw them in with anything &kitchen sink.

To Feathers, One &All:  happy hunting this weekend.  At least my mom is 
back with me and we can go hunting together...I sometimes feel like a Big 
Game Hunter on Safari, going out to the jungle to Bag the Big 
Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 08:15:11 -0400
Subject: Information on a Puritan Maid machine

I have a Puritan Maid sewing machine manufactured by Bay State Products Corp
Boston 34 Mass.  It is model number 73EAC only  40 watt 110 volt.  It is in a
metal case about twice the size and shape of a rounded metal lunch box.  It
is only a chain stitch machine.  It is in very good condition, no scratches
or dents.  It has a small pull out drawer in the base of the case.  I wanted
to know what it was used for and the approximate worth of the machine. 

Thanks for your assistance....

Dave S
Date: 18 Sep 96 14:24:29 EDT
Subject: Re: Contribution

Maryjo re Singer 27K

Very difficult, these early UK-built Singers. The factory simply dumped all the
information when they closed down the plant at Clydebank. I can date American
machines machines up to 1891 and UK machines from 1900 (M prefix) until 1947
(ED). But that's about it.  Your machine is before 1900 and probably early 
or late 1870s but that is as close as I am prepared to guess.

To Mary L re Red S Singer In-House magazine.

Can't remember how many there were but following interest here I checked with
the source and the  maganines were sold off a couple of years ago.
However I did at the time go through them and copy anything of historical
interest. They dated from the 1920s and 30s.
There is a complete set, I am told, at the Clydebank Museum in Scotland.

To all. re Singer's love life.
I posted the first part of this three days back but have seen nothing. Pease
tell me if it appeared and I missed it . If it didn't  make it I'll try again
and if we fail I'll devise a system of sending it by private e-mail.

Graham F
Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 12:22:52 -0700
Subject: toy SM authority &changed Email address

MaryJo...the BEST authority on the Singer toy machines is Maggie Snell
By all means.....write her.  

If she doesn't have answers to your questions, NOBODY will. (grin)
And, also FYI....after Saturday Graham will have a new email address.
He'll keep his old one thru the month, but keep an eye out for a msg. from 
him telling everyone this...His new email will be:  graham@ismacs.u-net.com

Enjoy the day!

Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 16:16:51 -0400
Subject: 222K

Hello ,Could someone please tell me hat a 222K w/free arm in 9+condition
might be worth.Thank you
Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 17:31:55 -0700
Subject: wanted

Hi I just got my buttonholer from Bobbi #160506.  Now I need the manual and
cams that come with it   Does anybody have  these items.  A photocopy of
the manual would be fine.  TIA   kathy
Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 19:49:25 -0400
Subject: toy machines

I would like some info.  I saw three toy machines today.  A beautiful Singer
black and gold one-at $100.00  I saw something called a Sew Busy.  This was
made by a company called Marx.  It was a cute little machine placed into a
rather gaudy pink plastic table.  Cost 32.00  The third machine was a Singer:
Little Touch and Sew.  It came complete with box, carry case and manual.
 Cost of that was also $32.00.

I passed on all three, but I am curious about the pricing.  Any info

By the way, for all of you looking for a treadle machine, my DIL reports that
they are all currently in Thailand.  She saw them everywhere-along the
streets-all of them in use.

Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 21:32:27, -0500

Sandie, I have one of those green portable GE machines. I don't know a
thing about it and was asking on here if anyone knew anything but I didn't
get a response. I know that my dad picked it up cheap because a) he got it
without calling me on his cell phone while looking at it and b) he didn't
want me to pay him back on it. I will check and see what he paid but it was
at a garage sale. So like you, I would appreciate any information on it.

Graham, I recently bought a toy singer and was wondering if you knew which
it was and what you thought of the price I paid for it. It is a tan machine
with a tan hard plastic case. It says it is made in Great Britain. I paid
$67 for it.
thank you lisa
Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 23:10:46 -0400
Subject: 319

Hello again Folks,Boy is it wet around here in Gloucester,Massachuetts.I
wrote a couple of day ago about a 319,if anyone has attachments for on I
would be interested in them.regards,Larry

Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 22:53:01 -0500
Subject: wanted

Looking for an original manual for Wilcox  &Gibbs treadle chainstich sewing
machine.  Please E-mail offers.

May also be intrested in original attchments for W&G, again  e-mail me if
you have some you want to get rid of.
 Randy M
Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 21:17:27 -0800
Subject: sm decals

I have what I consider to be a goofy question, but maybe someone can 
help me.  Is there any way to tell what model a machine is by the 
decals?  I've seen that several of the machines have the same goldwork, 
but are there any machines that have their own designs?  Are any of the 
decal designs specific to a factory or country?   Thanks for any input! 
 Sharon C
Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 23:50:15 -0700
Subject: your problem

>One thing I want to ask other 201 owners.Does your handwheel turn easily or
>is it a bit stiffer than most other models.I've greased the tubes and oiled
>her to death but I'm not sure with the way she was built if the wheel is
>supposed to be this stiff.Seems to hesitate when first get her going
>too.After a good warm up she hums right along. 

        Maggie, your last line is the clue, as to why that flywheel turns
        There is old, hardened, gunky lubrication in that machine .....take
it apart,
        and clean the 'guts'...the gears, etc. with WD-40, then re oil and
        Remember oil is oil and lubrication is with GREASE...and whatever
you do,
        don't get them mixed up (g)=
        The reason the machine "hums right along after a good warm up" is
because the 
friction heats that old, gunky stuff, and breaks it down.....consequently,
no longer 
causing any "bind".

Date: Thu, 19 Sep 1996 09:40:31 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: More history

I found the most fascinating thing yesterday - a reproduction of the 1927
Sears, Roebuck Catalogue! Of course, I went immediately to the sewing
machine section and there found advertised the Franklin rotary electric
machines (priced between $78.50 and $43.75) as well as the Minnesota
treadles (priced between $38.45 and $27.95). It was very interesting reading
their descriptions of the various machines and cabinets. Electric machines
were obviously quite new so they sang their praises loudly (although it was
an additional $2.45 to add a separate light to the machine) and they were
offered for sale on the easy payment plan of $5 down and $5 a month - the
treadle ones were cash only! The electric machines had a rotary mechanism
while the treadles were long shuttle types. They also had an electric
portable pictured - weighed only 60 lbs! They kept repeating how they were
so proud to be able to offer such a quality machine (20 year guarantee) at
such a low price - partly since they (unlike other dealers) didn't take old
machines as trade-ins. I really enjoyed reading all this and highly
recommended it to others - another item to add to your search list! By the
way, they also have pictures of various styles of shuttle bobbins with names
of the different companies that use them. If anyone would like me to try
making a copy of this page for them, just send me a SASE and I'll do my best
- haven't seen how well this will reproduce which is why I'm not totally
sure about this offer. Happy hunting!
Sue M.
Date: Thu, 19 Sep 1996 09:51:47 -0400
Subject: New member

Hi everyone I'm so glad to have found this group. My name is Karen but I'll
go by Frish since Karen is really common. I've been collecting sew. machs.
for about 5 years and about 40 of them I've got 2 black F.W.s in mint one is
1938 I paid 30.00 for 2 years ago at a flea market and the other I answered
an add in the newspaper and got that one a centenial for 47.00 . Two months
ago I was at a garage sale and spotted a green anf white box and of course I
knew the white ones came in them can you believe I got it for 10.00 I did
offer the lady 20.00 she said that was to much. The machine still had the
test tag on it the attachments were never used now I think that will never
happen again in my life time God sure blessed me that day.Someone on-line
needed a copy of a 201 manual from 1948 I'd be happy to copy my book. If your
out there you can e-mail me   Well I'm really enjoying all the
stories about F.W.s glad I joined.   Frish
Date: 15 Sep 96 13:39:09 EDT
Subject: Re: Contribution

Maggie M re Singer 15

Hi, and welcome to FWF. I can provide a copy manual for the 15 if you don't get
an original. No charge. e-mail me privately.

To Glen re USA visit

Thanks for the kind words about our USA trip and pleasant evening with you and
your friends. We were made to feel very welcome and you will be glad to hear
that hot tea works fine out of the coffee mug.

We met and spoke to three different groups this time around but were unable to
sell the Royal Family to anyone. Seriously, we will be doing another American
tour next year and will be glad to meet up with any FWF groups along the way.
Will post route later. You usually get a slide or video show, a brief chat from
me and a subtle plug for ISMACS.

To Charles re decals

I have a few sets of original Singer decals in the archive. Will hunt them down
and let you know. However, without in any way wishing to be disparaging, I
wonder at the expense and time involved in refurbishing a machine to this 
when, after it is finished it will be worth less to a collector than a good
original item of which there are tens of thousands available
Re the dog W&W 9. Sounds like spare parts only. Not worth the shipping to the
Islands. I saw plenty in my trip for the $150 mark in really good condition.

To Nancy B re toy Singer

What you have is a `Singer 20. These were made in two basic forms. Those from
1910 are all black and have an exposed bright metal rocking arm across the top
arm. Later models came in Black, fawn (tan), red, blue, green, cream and had 
mechanism enclosed. $125 is about the current going rate for either except the
first of the early series which had a four-spoke wheel and is rated at about
$100 more.

To all.
I've just go thru the back log of e-mail and every one should have had a reply.
If not it's a black hole situation so please re-post.
Unless, of course you were one of the 11 mailers who asked me what something 
worth -- these I have ignored. As I've said before I am happy to comment on
prices but I will not to tell you the figure to sell a machine at. 
Nor will I ever make an offer to buy.
Graham F
Date: Thu, 19 Sep 1996 09:55:24 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: First Featherweight

I have wanted a FW since the 1960's when I borrowed them to sew on in my
college dorm.  In the last 3 or 4 years my husband and I had been looking,
to no avail.
Imagine my suprise when my mother-in-law gave one to my 15-year-old
daughter.  She had found it, in perfect working order, for $25.  My husband
says that he wishes he had a video of the expression on my face.  I wanted
that machine!  Shortly thereafter, we found a really beaten up FW in a pawn
shop.  We really bought it for spare parts.  However, we have put a new
motor on it, moved the hook between the two fingers, and now it sews just
fine, although it is not a collector's item.  The case lid was smashed, and
the hardware was broken or gone.  Hubby rebuilt the lid, and I fabric
decoupaged the outside of the case which had little of the original covering
left.  I replaced the hardware with doll trunk hinges and draw latches from
Charlotte Ford Trunks in Spearman, TX.  We used brass rivets because we did
not think screws would hold in the damaged wood.  The results are most 

How do I get instructions for a Singer treadle?  I don't know my model
number.  Where do I look on the machine to find it?

Terri C
Date: Thu, 19 Sep 1996 14:58:26 GMT
Subject: silly me!

Have you ever thought you're doing everything by the book and not getting
Well...........after fighting w/my Elnas for days and days I come to find
.........don't laugh....(ok.... a little bit) I've had the needles in
backwards the whole time!!!!!!URG.......I had also been working on another
SM at the same time and must have read the needle insertion for that one
So for all you kind folks trying to help me out with this.........thanks
..........the problem is solved and they're stitching up a storm.I'll only
work on 1 model at a time after this fiasco! 
Boy is my face red. 
Date: Thu, 19 Sep 1996 10:32:31 -0500
Subject:  Book in Paperback and Finds

Greetings to all the Fine Featherweight Folks-----
     The book that was discussed about a month or two ago, " The
Persian Pickle Club" by Sandra Dallas is now available in paperback at a
cost of $10.95. I got my copy at Waldens.

     Great Finds --- I spotted a nearly perfect --- definitely 9.5 on any
scale-- black Singer 221 !! I got it for $150---- They don't come much
I also got a white Singer 221 from Great Britain through the local
classified ads. The woman sold it for only $80 . It runs great and looks
nearly perfect.... I am still smiling over these deals.....

                                                         Bob S
Date: Thu, 19 Sep 1996 11:09:14 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: estate auction--66 treadle!

Hi, all!  I spent all day Saturday in the rain at an estate auction, 
watching the treadle 66, which is what I really wanted, get wetter and 
wetter.  Of course it was nearly the last item to go.  But I got it, for 
$70.  Has nice decals, decent cabinet with 6 drawers and tilt-out in 
center, scroll-y ironwork.  Has several attachments, 2 oil cans (neither 
is painted nor oval, waaah).  It's all cleaned up very nicely, after I 
scrubbed off decades of grime and dust, spider nests, etc.  The decals 
are worn in a few places, and the finish on the bed is crazed, but it 
looks much nicer with 2 coats of Turtle wax.  Bought a new belt, and it 
should all work out fine once I move it off the plush carpeting and 
onto bare floor so there's clearance for the pedal.  Called Singer... 

A couple of questions that (of course) weren't answered by the manual 
(which I'm willing to copy for anyone who needs one):  Just how tight is 
the belt--leather--supposed to be?  I know how to shorten it, but of 
course only in increments of approx 1/2" since that's about how far the 
new hole for the staple-thingy has to be from the end.  And I 
cleaned/fiddled with all the parts, tension, etc., as much as I could.  
The tension is OK.  Haven't been able to get the presser-foot pressure 
adjuster loose yet, but it seems OK as it is.  (The brave little 99 that 
followed me home and was my guinea-pig helped out here!)  The bobbin 
winder looks like it's never worked correctly...the finger-thing that 
comes forward onto the thread wound onto the bobbin has quite a groove 
worn into the right side (from countless bobbins winding, I expect) so it 
doesn't hold the bobbin in place anymore...but I can always wind on the 
99.  I'm hoping someone can walk me through how to fix the balance wheel 
mechanism so that loosening the big silver knob/screw releases the sewing 
mechanism for bobbin winding and treadle practice--any takers???   :)

Our Wal-Mart has pkgs of Singer metal bobbins for 66 class machines, 4 
for less than $2.  (might have been 86cents but I can't promise that!)

This auction also had a Casige toy sm.  I couldn't get the wheel to turn 
at all, and it looked like there were some bent parts.  It went for $110, 
as I recall...I don't/won't/can't start doing toys  (!) but that was 
*way* more than the token amount I'd have been willing to pay just to 
keep the little cutie out of the dumpster.

After the auction, my FW friend and I provided entertainment while 
putting my new treadle into her 2-door Cutlass.  ;)  The trunk was plenty 
big except that the angle was wrong to fit it in, so we ended up putting 
it in the backseat after shoving the front seats clear forward.  Needless 
to say, the 60-mile drive home was less than comfortable.  And my 
neighbors were highly amused by watching us try to get the thing *out* of 
there.  I told Karen we should have driven my van, but she said that 
would have been bad luck and I wouldn't have gotten the treadle.  DH 
asked, ever-so-delicately, "So, is this the machine that completes your 
collection?"  Ummmm, I don't *think* so!  He's pretty tolerant, tho...

Date: 19 Sep 96 13:36:45 EDT
Subject: WANTED - Stylist Manual

Does anyone have a manual for a Stylist 513 that I could borrow and copy?
Date: Thu, 19 Sep 1996 12:40:07 GMT-6
Subject: Model 15K

Today on my lunch hour ran over to a garage sale by my work 
(geriatric city around here).  There was a Singer benchwood case 
sitting there.  Inside was a pretty black sewing machine, brand new 
looking.  The box of attachments say 201K on them, and unfortunately 
must have gotten wet as the manual is stuck to the bottom of the 
green attachment box (I can't get that open yet either as it is 
stuck and I don't want to rip the paper).  The sewing machine says 
Made in Canada.  The singer logo is blue and green? or white? and 
says something like A Century of Singer Service 1851-1951.  When I 
called Singer's 1-800 # they said it was a 15K made in Great Britain. 
 But the SM says made in Canada.  Now I'm confused.  The case had the 
key and screw driver hanging there and black foot pedal.  Price $40.  
I was excited and bought it quick.  Now, back to work if I can settle 

Rachel M
Date: Thu, 19 Sep 1996 14:48:38 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 9/17/96

Hi all, went out and about today and found a Singer 338??? from the 60's.
It's heavy, portable, light green with a tan case. One owner who wants
$55.00 (USA) for it..Anyone interested let me know asap since she has a yard
sale tommorrow.  

Date: Thu, 19 Sep 1996 16:26:18 -0400
Subject: London Specialties gadgets

Karen A :
I have that London Specialties Universal Attachment, too.  It came in
a Singer look-alike dark green box.  I looked at that box several
times to make sure it wasn't a Singer thing.  I also acquired at the
same time a London Specialties Needle Threader, which looked quite
a bit like the Singer threader.  This company must have been a Singer
knockoff company.  It was located in Michigan.  The universal 
Attachment basically looks like today's darning spring attachment.
It is universal because it fits on nearly any sewing machine and 
allows you free motion stitching.

Date: Thu, 19 Sep 1996 16:44:08 -0400
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 9/18/96

                    Hi , all it's a rainy day in Ok, yipeee! but I can't get
out to search BOO  Hooo , oh well we need the rain. went to Mo. last week end
,saw 3 FW's in Antique shops in Springfield area , but they were all $375.&
$550. and were in bad condition ,one had no bobbin case no foot, and case was
terrible, none looked very good. I sure wanted to bring them home anyway.HA
my DH sid noooooooo, oh well.        
      To Graham; welcome back,  I finally freed the little Black model ,with
Occipied Japan on it, it was a tuff one , but it sews like a champ now,
reminds me of a 66 or 99 but ever so light, have any ideas?
              keep searchin it's worth the trip.Sandy
Date: 19 Sep 1996 13:54:13 PT
Subject: FW Fanatics 9/18/96

On the green GE portables. Those are Sewhandys, the precurser to the
Featherweight. The most commonly known Sewhandy is made by Standard
and is tan, GE made a clone in Green.

  Does anyone know where I can get a belt for one?

Thanks Kate C
Date: Thu, 19 Sep 1996 19:53:54 -0400
Subject: Request for Hand Crank

Hello Fellow Feathers:

A while back (I think it was in the Sept. 7 digest) I posted a request
regarding a hand crank sewing machine.  So far, no one has responded to the
request, so I'm going to post it again in hope that someone that can help
with this request did not see it the first time.

To summarize my previous posting, I was browsing another list on the web and
came across an ad requesting a hand crank sewing machine.  This request was
from Jan Gunderson who is the librarian at a small rural school district in
 North Dakota.  The sewing machine is for a student named Wendy who has
cerebral palsy. Wendy has limited mobility and can do only the circular
motion of the hand crank; that's why she needs a machine that cranks as
opposed to a treadle or foot control.  Last year they borrowed a circa 1940s
model Singer child's machine, but the lender has moved away and Wendy is now
unable to sew with her classmates in home ec class.

I do not know Ms. Gunderson personally.  I've only communicated with her via
e-mail.  I do not know how much they are willing or able to pay.  I do know
that hand cranks are collectable and can be fairly expensive, so if you have
a machine that's financially out of reach for Wendy's school, I'll pledge 20
bucks toward her machine.

I've been a FWF for long enough to know Birds of a Feather are a kind hearted
group, and we can make this happen.  There are over 1000 of us after all.
 Many of us are combing garage sales, estate sales, and flea markets weekly,
 so I know we can find a sewing machine for Wendy out there somewhere.

So, if you have a hand crank machine that you can part with, or know of one
that may fit Wendy's needs, please contact Jan Gunderson via e-mail
Thanks in advance for your help with this effort.

Date: Thu, 19 Sep 1996 22:01:59 -0400
Subject: Singer pinker

I've read posts from those of you who own pinkers. I bought one the other
day in the original box but it has neither a manual nor a clamp. For $10.00
I don't feel cheated! Is there someone out there who would sell me a copy of
the manual and also describe the clamp or photocopy the clamp so I could
find a facsimile?
Nancy W
Date: Thu, 19 Sep 1996 23:29:56 -0400
Subject: Survey

Hi All!
    I've had a few letters from other owners of Sewhandy/G.E machines lately,
and I think it's nice to be able to talk with owners of similar machines
about specifics that I wouldn't want to bother the group with. 

     I think it would be really cool to have a quick survey to see what
machines all FWF's have in addition to Singers. (For example, I'm really
curious how many other fancy leg Florence's are in the group) I don't want to
start a database, but  if anyone or everyone would like to send a list of
what they have, I could compile the quick results (without names) for the
digest and then get lists sent out to owners of similar machines. So only
participate if you don't mind your information being given to other FWF's. 

    Send me a list that includes manufacturer, model, serial number, color,
and any other information you think will be important (like the birthdates
for Singers?) by October 4th, which gives you two weeks, and I will work on
compiling the information that weekend. You can include FW's and other
Singers, so we can see how many total machines FWF's own. If this works out,
and it interests the group, would someone volunteer to hold the information
as a FAQ? Or even  keep the info as a database?  What does everyone think?
(Other than that I'm nuts to do this)

    By the way, there are about 750 machines on the Featherweight database,
and I'm going to start working on an update to FWFanatics soon. There's not a
whole lot of new information, but I still find it fascinating.

   And remember, Courtney holds the database of non-FW
Singers, in case you have any new ones.

Happy Featherweighting,
Date: 20 Sep 96 01:44:49 EDT
Subject: Re: FFanatics

To Graham -- thanks for the "update" on my machine.  I was wondering why I 
saw any dated just plain "A" on any of the lists.   So it's older than I 
.  You missed some of my earlier e-mails -- I had very kind souls asking me
to "relook" at the serial number, thinking I had just missed a second letter
after the A or whatever.  It was sort of funny. I had already decided, once I
get a free moment here,  to pack it up and send it to someone here on FWF for a
cleaning and overhaul.  We have a US address out of here so it won't  be a
problem.  The bolts etc are absolutely filthy, and I am afraid that despite my
best efforts that an overzealous hand would ruin the goldwork, etc.  At that
point I'll ask the person to take pictures, etc and send them on to people in
the States for scanning.  We don't have a scanner here, and DH only takes
slides, through Seattle Film Works, so it takes forever for us to get stuff

To Dale P  -- thanks for the 127 manual -- it's much better than what the
Singer co. sent me.  The xerox copy they sent was not very readable, to say the
least.  Thanks also for the xeroxed pages of what I guess is the "blue book" --
interesting monetary values.

I didn't make clear in one of my posts about toy sewing machines.  What I meant
to say is that several people have asked me to look out for them HERE, and I
have to find someone here to ask where I might start looking.

Still am waiting to for answers on how/why people name their machines  .  I
know in the States they used to name old pot-bellied stoves.  Why? Hmm.

Date: Thu, 19 Sep 1996 09:40:33 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Another fw!

This is my best fw story yet - I got one for FREE!! This summer I was
visiting my brother and sister-in-law (who I only see about once a year) and
was telling them about my sewing machine collection, especially the
wonderful fws. While I was there, I took her machine apart (some no-name
Japanese zigzag) and cleaned it for her (she'd never done that) and would
have oiled it if she had some around. Shortly after that, they were at an
antique show and saw some fws for sale and realized that they had one at
home. My brother went up in the attic over their garage and brought down a
machine which they then delivered to my niece's (who is going to college
near here). I heard through my mother that they had a Singer that they
thought I might like and you can imagine my delight when I discovered what
it was (I was expecting a plastic 70's model)!! The machine had been in
their garage attic since they built the house (16 years ago) and they're not
sure how they originally got it (thought my mother had bought it for them,
but she doesn't remember doing that), but they were happy to give it to me
and I sure was glad to get it! It's an AG with the scrollwork and all
attachments in very good shape except for some rust on the bobbin case. So
maybe there really is a fw fairy out there watching over us - she just knows
where to send them when they're looking for a good home!
Sue M.
Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 06:14:59 -0400
Subject: Singer pinker

I just purchased a Singer pinker attachment for the machine.  I can't tellif
it goes on a straight or slant needle.  It is a very interesting attachment
and looks brand new, but it didn't come in a box or with any instructions.  I
have read about several FWF's purchasing pinkers but I assumed they were the
free standing type.  If anyone can help me witha photocopy of the directions
I would be very grateful.  I made a deal with the antique dealer - the pinker
and the new in the box pinking shears circa 1960's for $10.  The pinker was
going to be $5 by itself.  I'm happy, but now I need to find out how to use
it.  I own a 221,99k,301a as well as various newer machines, so surely it
will fit on one of them. TIA

Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 09:53:38 -0400
Subject: Puritan Maid Sewing Machine

For Dave S :
I have one of those Puritan Maid Sewing Machines, and I actually
live less than a mile from the address in the instructions.  There
is a playground where that address was.  I checked in the Boston
Business Directories from 1963 (when we went to Zip Codes) back
to the 1930's.  Couldn't find Bay State Products listed.  At
flea markets I saw some other sheet metal housekeeping toys, like
a washing machine and sink, so the company had to exist.  I just
haven't had time to do more research because I have a job in the
outer suburbs &the library's research section seems to keep the
same business hours that I do.

With the construction of the machine, I originally thought it was
a prototype, but others have surfaced.  My theory is that there
were a lot of small shops during WW II that did defense work, and
after the War were looking for something to make.  The hammertone
finish and the postal zone tells me this company was 40's &50's.

The size of the machine is rather awkward, a bit large for a toy,
but it does only a chain stitch, so really shouldn't qualify as
a modern day miniature.  I paid less than $20 for mine.  I find it
an interesting curiosity.

By the way, Dave, where do you live?  I would be interested in
finding how far these have scattered.

Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 13:44:47 -0400
Subject: New 2 new FW's

Hello to all the FWF's.  I have been reading all summer and looking for my FW
to appear.  Found not one, but two.  The best deal I found was an AH, 9 on
the scale, all attachments, screwdrivers, Singer Motor Lubricantin green box,
2 keys, 5 bobbins, case in wonderful shape, instruction manual and two green
packages of needles + a zigzagger by Chadwick in the original box with
instructions.  I got this for $375--oh, I got the card table too for that
price.  The table is black wood legs and a veneer top which I spiffed up with
Howard's oil.  My second machine which I actually bought first is an AM with
6 attachments, replacement footpedal on old plugs with case, no manual.

Becky  said I did good with the table and AH--actually had my DH
working on both machines.  Now both run beautifully.  If only I could knew
how to quilt!  

My questions:  What type of zigzagger did I get?  What is a foot labeled
Simanco #15429 (looks like a cording foot maybe)?    I read on one of the FW
mailings how to refinish the table, but didn't keep the information.  Can
anyone tell me how to do this?  Is there a recommended way to clean the
cases?  Thanks, I surely have enjoyed my FWF reading each day and look
forward to more FW's.  Jean H
Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 11:11:36 -0700
Subject: Travel Tips??

Had a session with quilting friends last night to pin baste my Xmas 
scrappy. I bought the wrong kind of batting (too thin) so will have to 
postpone for a couple of weeks, til we can all get together again... 
Meanwhile one of the enterprising people in the group brought along a 
heart kit she got through Keepsake Quilting to show us all how to do hand 
reverse applique. She claims it's a nice project to do while traveling. 
Since I have never sewn, this seems like an impossible task. Made the 
comment that I thought I would just take my Featherweight machine along 
with me on the upcoming trip with DH. I thought I'd tell him it's my 
make-up case. I don't think he'll know the difference. I'm just wondering 
how long of an extension cord I'll need to plug into the lavatory on the 
airplane? Does anyone know?
Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 15:59:27

Dear Fanatic, I am new at this, In my attic I found an old Weele &
wilson sewing machine.The patent number is 1851, 1852. From all 
indication the machine, which is in perfect working condition,is 
from around that date. I was wondering if you had some information 
on the machine itself and on its possible value.
In one of its drawer there is a busines card with the motto weeler 
and Wilson sewing machine takes the drudgery out of sewing.
thank you. 
Date: Fri, 20 Sep 96 13:56:17 EST
Subject: 1.  Athena 2000    2.  A neat story

     1.  I have a Singer Athena 2000 that was my mother's, and it is a 
     piece of junk.  I have already spent $200 on it and am not willing to 
     put any more money into it.  I understand the early Singer 
     computerized machines eventually "fried" their own chips, and you can 
     even hear this one simmering.  My question is, before I toss it, other 
     than the feet, foot pedal and a couple of screws, is there anything I 
     should salvage that might fit other machines?  If so, what part(s) and 
     what other machine(s) would they fit?  What about the motor?  TIA
     2.  I was reading an old People magazine, 10/16/95 (page 139).  There 
     is an article about Steve Cloudt, who, with his father, owns 
     Undercover Productions, which makes boat covers and duffel bags.  No 
     city was mentioned.  The wedding gown his fiancee chose was $1,700 and 
     he decided he could make it for a lot less.  He did, for $118.  TMALSS 
     (to make a long story short) there is a picture of the two of them, 
     AND a picture of his sewing machine!  My best guess is that this is a 
     model 15.  It has a chrome wheel, fancy circle plate on the back, 
     tension on the side, and it looks like a light in the back that may or 
     may not be original.  The light is shiny like the circle plate.  The 
     bed has a medallion of some sort and the slide plate over the bobbin 
     is to the side of the machine, with a half-circle to the right (of the 
     needle).  The machine is sitting in a base with extra space to the 
     right, but there does not appear to be a tray, just the base.  (My two 
     15s don't have chrome wheels or shiny lights, so I could easily be 
     wrong.)  To continue, this young man started sewing in the 8th grade 
     when he wanted a $400 ski jacket and his father told him to make it 
     himself.  By high school, he was creating backpacks and tote bags to 
     sell classmates!  Wish I could scan the picture, but don't have that 
Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 18:01:36 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: RE: FW Fanatics 9/19/96

To Sharon C:  Certainly there are decals that commemorate; I can think of
two.  One was a world's fair decal (Chicago fair?) and another is the
centennial decal found on many singer machines (I have one).  It means the
machine was made within a certain number of years or months of the event, but
not necessarily sold during that time.  Supposed to make it pricier, I think. 
If you hear of any other kinds of identifying decals, share the news!
Ruth A
Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 18:18:42 -0400
Subject: Ft. Washington Show

Ok, I'm still not rested from spending all day yesterday at Ft. Washington,
but I need to pass on the FW sightings while I can still read my scribbled
There were at least 10 FWs being offered for sale.  Prices as follows:
   1950  $425
   1936  $485
   1948  $400
One   Centennial at $500 and one at $525.  Both of these were gorgeous.
 Little Foot (Vendors we are all familiar with) had a beauty at $495 and a
free arm at $1195.
In addition, there was another vendor who had 4-6 FWs stacked up.  The cases
looked pretty battered.  I asked about price and was told I could take my
pick of any one for $450.
  I did see a lot of FWs being used to demo other products and I stopped to
admire each and every one of those as well.
  Other FW items: a zigzagger attachment, boxed with manual  $60.00
                                 a buttonholer in the green soft plastic
case-with manual  $50.00
                                a Blind Hem attachment/boxed  $60.00

When I left at 4 PM, all of these items were still on offer, but I suppose
most will be sold by the end of the show on Sunday.  The attachment prices
really shook me.  I think I paid 24 for one of my buttonholers, 10 for the
other and I know that I only paid 15 each for the zigzaggers.  To my mind,
there is no question that quilters are driving the prices up on anything that
can be used on a FW.  At each successive show I go to, there are more FWs and
attachments, and the prices are higher.

What did I buy?  Well, a lot of fabric, which I'm still trying to find room
for.  And the bargain of the day: a package of 4 original (not new) FW
bobbins.  Cost me 85 cents.

Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 19:17:44 -0400
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 9/19/96

I recently purchased a treadle and the cabinet is okay  but the machine is
greasy, dirty.  They had it in a corner of the kitchen.  The gold is still on
it and I'm hesitant to use 409 or other  kitchen cleaner on it.,  What is
recommended? Thank for the help.
Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 20:35:05 -0400
Subject: Not a FW cardtable

Interesting start to the weekend.  Someone told me about an antique shop that
was having a garage sale.  She had several "old sewing machines" that did not
sell.  I called the owner and the machines sounded interesting, but her
mention of 2 FW cardtables "that are very rare, wants $200 each" really
piqued my interest.  I left immediately.  By the time I arrived (45 minutes)
 I was sure I would buy them both, sell one for enough to cover keeping the
other one, with money leftover for fabric.... I was pumped!   Alas, the
cardtables did not look quite right to me.  The cutout looked too long.  The
legs were brown.  (I know some FW cardtables have tan legs, but this did not
look right.)  I asked to try a FW in them.  The FW did not fit.  She was
quite surprised, and I am sure disappointed.  Whoever sold them to her had
told her they were for FWs and were rare.
I remember someone posting about another cardtable, but I cannot remember
which machine they fit.  Was it the 301?  I told her I would let her know.  I
doubt she can get her whole investment back, but maybe she can sell them.
 She was relieved to find out BEFORE Quilt Festival, as she would not want to
look like she was trying to decieve anyone.  
  But, she did have a White Rotary in an interesting sewing cabinet with the
deep side wells.  Very dirty, was hard to tell condition of the machine (you
could not even see the decals, if present).  Machine lifts out of cabinet on
tractor feed.  Wanted $50.
  2 Featherweights, $425.  One in rough condition, the other okay.  Not
super.  I was uninterested,
  1 Bentwood case, no key, no way to tell what was inside.  $50.
  3 Bentwood cases with 3 machines, but only 2 casetops.  $25 each.  One was
a White Rotary in BEAUTIFUL condition, case &machine.  Beautiful shell
decalls in red, gold, green.  Chrome bright.  Black shiny.  Another one was a
Western Electric, in very good condition and quite attractive.  No cover.
 Another was a Singer, in good condition, with red, gold decals.  (Maybe a
15?  Looks a lot like a 99, but not exactly.  And this one has attachments.)
 Also found a Singer buttonholer and manual for $15, both in good condition. 
   Bought all 4 machines, plus buttonholer, for $150.  She was glad to clear
them out, and I am thrilled to have them.  The cabinet tipped in the van
(when I had to come to an unexpected and abrupt halt) and now needs even more
work.  Found a buttonholer in one of the wells.  The machine in the mystery
bentwood case turns out to be a 99, I am assuming (it looks a lot like the 99
I already have, but not as new).  
  No, they weren't FW cardtables, but it was worth the trip.  
  I sure wish all the books I ordered were here so I could find out SOMETHING
about them!
Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 22:28:09 -0400
Subject: New Finds!

Only fellow FWFs would understand how excited I am about DH's new finds
today!  I have been considering nominating DH for the DH of the Year award,
but after today I definitely have to nominate him!

After several weeks of no FW sightings and several frustrating near misses,
DH brought home a FW, and a 66 today.  He went on an errand of mercy to help
out a sick friend and figured while he was out he might as well check out a
couple of thrift shops near the friend's place.  At one of them he found a
66-1? (presser foot attaches from the back) with the red and green
scrollwork that I've wanted ever since I read about them in Sincere's book.
He asked one of the people at the store if they had any small, portable
Singers, expecting her to say no or we had one but we sold it the other day.
Instead she said they had one in the back that had just come in.  Until he
actually saw the machine, he expected it to be some other sort of Singer
portable.  But it wasn't - it was a black FW!

It is at least a 9.5 on Graham's scale.  Other than the fact that there was
a wound bobbin in the bobbin case, I would have thought it had never been
used.  It has certainly seen very little use.  It came with not only it's
own attachments, manual, case and keys (my first FW keys!), but also a set
of attachments and manual for a 201!  All this for only $25.  Finally a
bargain FW!

The 66 is also in pretty good shape, although it has some layers of grime
that will need to be removed.  But I think it will clean up well.
Since my birthday is later this month, DH has also solved his birthday
shopping problems.  And the FW has an AM serial number making it a mid-50's
model just like me. I've already informed DH that he can call the Singer 800
number on Monday to see how close the sm's BD is to mine, as his schedule is
more flexible than mine, and I'm dying to know if I have a "birthday model"
for a birthday present!

None of my friends quite understands my FW mania so I just had to share DH's
find with people who would understand!

Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 21:25:44 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: a FW story...but not from Graham...

Hi fellow Feathers...

You may or may not remember that several weeks ago my DDDDDDDH bought me 
a FW that he found in a local pawnshop.  He'd been at the travel agency, 
working on plans for the marching band trip; walked by the pawnshop and 
spotted a black box through the window.  He figured, naaaaah, it 
*couldn't* be, but he went in anyway and sure 'nuf.  Looked real nice, 
$110 + tax.  Came to my office, called me out of a mtg with the -big 
boss-, asked for the checkbook to buy it.  (We *do* have plastic...guess 
he was in shock!)  Went back to the pawnshop, asked to plug in the FW, 
listened to the motor, wrote a check, got a receipt, danced back to the 
car.  :)   [It's a great FW, 1957 w/ "new style" gold, nice case, etc.]

Sooooooo.   Last night I'm at a Guild officers' mtg.  One of the gals is 
an antique dealer downtown, who is buying a FW from a sm dealer since I 
wouldn't sell her one of mine for $100.  We're talking about FWs and she 
says, "Boy, is (what's-her-name) the pawnshop owner mad at you!"  And why 
is that?  "Tom bought *her* FW and it wasn't for sale."  "Odd," I say, 
"it had a price sticker and he has a receipt."  Supposedly, the owner had 
her *personal* FW at the pawnshop (?) and SOMEONE (of course) set it out 
on the sales floor.  She's been trash-mouthing us all over town because we 
should have known it was worth way more than that, yadda-yadda-yadda.  As
far as I know, DH didn't have any of his street weapons (haha) with 
him...  And would you believe there were women at my mtg who thought I 
should take my FW back to the shop and offer it back to her??????  I told 
'em the old gal needed to vent on her employee/son/whoever priced it and 
set it on the sales floor and then didn't grab it back before DH 
returned; also that she knows my phone #.  Would I sell it back to her?  
Sure.   But not, of course, for $110 + tax.  I figure she, of all people, 
is familiar with the basic concepts of supply/demand, purchase/resale, 
etc...   ;)   [Besides which, her shop is notorious for, ummmmm, taking 
advantage of the people I work with--adults with developmental 
disabilities--but that's another story...]

Moral to the story?  I guess,  when you keep your prized personal FW at 
your pawnshop, make sure your boy knows you don't wanna sell it for 
$100.  duh.    Who knows, maybe she'll find a comparable one and want to 
trade me...

OK, Graham, your turn now... 

Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 20:25:04 -0700
Subject: Treadle find

Today I bought a "New Domestic" treadle machine with all it's attachments 
in a 6 drawer fancy oak cabinet. The machine has a "fiddle" shape 
base. The original belts are there, but not in great shape. The machine 
is "skinny" and real dirty, but the cacoon-looking thing is inside where 
the bobbin goes is there with real old thread sticking out. No book. I 
haven't a clue how to do the bobbin. And, it is still in my Ford Explorer 
parked in the front yard. Got to find a couple of people to help bring it 
in so I can sing to it. My Grandmother had a Domestic treadle and I 
learned to sew on it starting at age four. I want to learn the history of 
this old machine. Anyone know? Shannon 
Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 20:26:47 -0700
Subject: Tan FW wanted

I have a black beauty, and a white lovely - now I NEED a tan to keep them 
company. Must have. Shannon 
Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 20:19:04 -0700
Subject: Toy Sewing Machines

FYI there is a book "Toy and Miniature Sewing Machines, An Identification 
&Value Guide" by Glenda Thomas this is packed full of colored pictures. 
It is wonderful! I've seen collectors carrying it with them at antique 
shows, with notes written beside the picture of ones they already have. 
It's a fun read. I'm new here. Hope I haven't told you something that is 
already common knowledge. Shannon
Date: Sat, 21 Sep 1996 09:51:50

I am new at this,I have found in my country place attic a weeler &
wilson seweing machine. the patent number is 1851,1852. The machine 
is in perfect working condition and is really a beauty.I was 
wondering if anyone has information about it.
Date: 21 Sep 96 12:01:42 EDT
Subject: post

Hi All...

Picked  up  another  FW  today. This one's my first "parts" machine... A solid 
#2...  It's hard to believe that the bed on this machine has NO paint! Hmmm, I 
wonder if I could sandblast the thing and repaint it? Hmmmm. NOT!

This  machine  is the EIGHTH machine I've picked up through a classified AD in 
the  paper  in two months. Hey folks, that averages to 1 a week! The most paid 
was  $75,  least  was $35. And I'm here in lil' old Brunswick GA with a COUNTY 
population  of  65K.  It  pays  to advertise... (PS: I only run the ad Thurs., 
Fri. and Sat. to keep the cost down).

Would  the  gal  that's  looking  for  a  light  for  her FW email me again? I 
misplaced your address...

For  Terri  -  re  Instructions.  Find  the  serial no. for your machine. It's 
usually  on  the  bed  right  in  front of the arm - six or seven alphanumeric 
characters.  Call  the  Singer toll free # (800-877-7762) and they'll tell you 
the model # and when it was made.

For  Rita  - re treadle belt. I think the last machine I belted required me to 
cut  about  11  inches off the 72" new belt. I kind of 'snuck' up on the right 
length  by  first  cutting  the  obvious 8 or 9 inches, then just a little bit 
'till  it  felt about right. The belt should not be 'tight', but give a little 
and  allow the belt throw-off to function properly.  Remember that the leather 
will  stretch after awhile and may need a trim. Also, the leather will stretch 
and  shrink slightly with humidity changes. As far as the bobbin winding goes, 
look  for  a small screw in the "Stop Motion Screw" - the "big silver knob" as 
you  describe  it.  Remove  the  screw  (don't  lose it!) and unscrew the stop 
motion  screw  'till it comes off. Note the 'triangular' washer underneath. It 
will  fit  back  on  four different ways. Only one is correct. That being, the 
way  that  allows the small screw to hit the stop when disengaging the balance 
wheel and properly disengages the wheel. Trial and error kind of thing...

For  Kate re belt for Sewhandy. If you have a belt, but it's worn, take it off 
the  machine,  stretch  it out long and skinny and measure it's length. If you 
don't  have  a  belt,  take a piece of string and wrap around motor pulley and 
hand  wheel  as  if  you  were  going to use the string as a belt. Mark string 
where  the ends cross (where you'd put your finger if you were going to tie it 
on...).  Then remove the string and measure the length between the marks. Then 
email  me  with  either  length  and I'll be happy to quote you on a new belt, 
'lugged' or plain...

Bye  for  now.  Chris  where I'm busy packing a FW in '9' 
condition  for  a  gentleman  in Alabama who's giving it to his daughter - who 
just happens to be an editor at Oxmoor House. Business may pick up soon! ;-}
Date: Sat, 21 Sep 1996 11:06:13 +0000
Subject: need advice &wanted

In the interest of space and $, I'm downsizing my small collection a 
bit.  I'm thinking of selling my Touch &Sew 750 here locally.  I have 
a 301 with a zigzagger and buttonholer and a 503a I'm working on
finding all the parts for, so I'm not sure why I need the T&S.

Does anyone know what a reasonable price would be?  It has all the 
attachments including a buttonholer and monogrammer.  It's in a small 
cabinet, though I may keep the cabinet.  I saw another T&S (different 
model) today for $75 in a cabinet with some attachments, so I'm 
thinking of asking between $50 - $75.  I'd appreciate any feedback.

Also, I had a friend give me a Little T&S toy machine, which is missing 
the bobbin.  The bobbin is a small shuttle type.  How much do these 
cost, and are they easy to find?  Is this machine worth bothering 

Finally, if anyone has any 503a cams they'd like to sell, please let 
me know.

Sharon R
Date: Sat, 21 Sep 1996 15:05:20 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: FW Manual

        A couple of weeks ago, on the way home from taking #5 to college
(Gustavus Adolphus, St.Peter, MN) we stopped at a quilt store in
Worthington, MN, (I was driving at the time) and I saw reprints of an
original manual.  They looked pretty close to original--green, Singer logo,
typeface, size etc.  Maybe someone on line has them available, and will
drop a line.  If not contact me, and I will try to find the name and
address of the shop.

Date: Sat, 21 Sep 1996 18:13:22 -0400
Subject: Search For

Hello Folks,I am on
a search for a dear friend who is looking for a Brothers "Pacesetter" from
1958.If you people can help it would be great.My regards,Larry
Date: Sat, 21 Sep 1996 18:47:36 -0400
Subject: Toy sewing machine

ISMACS... thankyou for the information on the toy sewing machine. DH and I are 
really enjoy the hunt!!!! the information you folks provide is 
wonderful. Nancy
Date: Sat, 21 Sep 1996 17:55:53 -0600
Subject: Grover-Baker?

Hi all, just saw the neatest treadle. It was called, I think, a 
Grover-Baker. The owner said it from the 1860s and makes a double? chain 
stitch. He tells me that this company was bought out by Singer. It is in 
a cabinet with the coffin type lid. The cabinet is in really good 
condition for being as old as it is.  It has one drawer on the left that 
needs the bottom glued back on.  Unfortunately, he is asking a pretty 
penny for it, more than I can afford.  I may go back later and see if 
his price is firm but I want to know if anyone knows anything about it. 
Can anyone tell me mor about this machine?  How about it Graham?
  Also, since I'm writing, I've finally got a FW story.  My MIL was out 
garage saling lately and stumbled upon a little black box.  The tag on 
the box read $100.  My MIL, being the thrifty woman she is thought who'd 
pay $100 for a box and walked away. Now my MIL knows I like to collect 
old Singers and just happened to ask at the sale if they had any sewing 
machines and the lady reponded that all she had was that small Singer 
over there, showing mom the FW box.  Upon opening the box, mom 
recognized the machine immediately and offered the lady $75. Since the 
two just happened to know each other from past work the offer was 
accepted. I haven't seen the machine yet but have been told its in very 
good condition and I've called Singer to find out that its DOB is 
10/31/51.  Its a Centennial!  How lucky can I be?  
  Well, that's about all I know for now. I'll be waiting to find out 
about a Grover-Baker. Jacque 

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