Featherweight Fanatics Archives

February 1996

Sunday, February 25th - Saturday, March 2nd

Date: Sun, 25 Feb 1996 09:37:25 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Williamsburg Show Pun 

Was down in Williamsburg on Friday and hit a wonderful booth of old toy
machines and 3 or 4 Featherweights.  Hiding under a lace panel was a 1948
model that was in poor shape.  The merchant had it priced around $225
because he said it was: 

		"cosmetically challenged!"  

Thought that was an appropriate way of describing a well-worn model. 
Ironically, I was also born in 1948 and, come to think of it, I'm a little
"cosmetically challenged" too! 

Barb T
Date: Sun, 25 Feb 1996 12:23:43 -0600
Subject: Oil can and postcard

Today I headed out to our monthly antique market.  In the first booth I
found a Singer oil can, about 2 3/4" tall, with a half-sphere base
(definitely not oval). If it ever had a paint job it's gone now.... it's
got that not-so-lovely stained metal look at this point. It does have the
word "Singer" embossed on the dome at the base of the spout. I fear the $10
I paid was too much, considering the condition, and considering, too, that
I have no idea how old it is. Can anyone help me?  I decided to go ahead
and buy it, even if overpriced, because I've got to start somewhere, and
I'll learn as I go along.

I also found a Singer advertising postcard.  On the picture side it has
native South Americans grouped around a treadle machine, and one of the
women is seated at it, sewing. In the lower left corner is the word
"Bolivia."  On the back it has a picture of a Singer No. 127-3 Vibrating
Shuttle machine, "On Embossed Cabinet Table No. 3".  The color on both
sides is very good. The back has the notation "Ad. 1681" which I suppose
could be used to date the card.  The machines listed on the card as being
available on the embossed table are the 66-1, 15-30, 115-1 and 127-3. 
There is no dealer name printed on the card.  I love the card, and I don't
think I paid *too* much for it.

Can anyone tell me any more about these two treasures?  What should I have
looked for?  Are they worth having?  (well, I think they are, or I wouldn't
have bought them....)

Lisa, who is beginning to think she never should have started reading this
mailing list because now it's starting to cost her actual *money*!!  :)
Date: Sun, 25 Feb 1996 17:31:51 -0500
Subject: SF Bay Area FW

Yesterday, we stopped by the Concord Sewing Center on Monument Blvd. in the
East Bay Area.  They had a Centennial FW for $300.  It has signs of hard use,
but according to the store it is in good working condition (tuned up by
them).  Call Nicky Bookout at (510) 825-2122 if you want more information.

I have no affiliation with this store.  We went in to get a treadle belt for
yet another of our "new" old machines.

Date: Sun, 25 Feb 1996 21:38:52 -0500
Subject: 58?

Honey, just wanted to wish you a very happy birthday to my special guy.
You're not getting older just better. Have a Happy Birthday and a great day.

Subject: latest endeavors; and things to trade...
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 96 03:05:00 PDT

Well, I haven't posted for a while, so I thought I would...

I've just changed jobs, and went from working part time to working full
time, so I am a bit behind on my mail.  Also behind on playing with my
beloved sewing machines.

I did manage to buy another one though.  I didn't need it, it isn't even
a singer, but it was only 3 bucks.  It's a Japanese "DELUXE" sewing
machine.  It is an exact replica of a singer model 15, belt driven.
I'll have to try the bobbin case and see if it works.  I actually
already have one of these animals that I paid 1 dollar for, and sews
beautifully after I put a new motor on it.  I had a spare laying around
from converting an electric model 66 back to a treadle.  I'm sending
that one home with my mom this weekend to go into an (oh my) EMPTY
sewing machine cabinet she has.  Can't have any empty cabinets laying
about, now can we?  What I will do with this other machine, I don't
know...but I am sure I will find a home for it eventually.

I also have a straight stitch model 600  (it might be 606 or something,
can't remember).  I haven't even plugged it in.  I bought it for the
cabinet at a thrift store for $10 bucks.  It's in one of those student
cabinets that looks like a treadle cabinet with legs.  It was missing
all it's drawers, but I just HAPPENED to have 4 drawers for it hanging
around from another conversion project.  Anyway, I am going to refinish
that cabinet and put my Mother in Law's Kenmore in the cabinet.  She's
one of those well to do people who have everything, and she mentioned
she'd like a cabinet for her machine, so I grabbed the idea for a gift
she really wanted!  I really didn't wan't the machine, but since they
wouldn't give me a discount for leaving it behind, I took it with me.
Eventually I'll get around to seeing if I can get it to work, and give
it to some poor sewingmachineless soul.

I still haven't gotten around to restoring the old White Rotary I found
in another thrift store....It's waiting patiently in my basement for my
attention.  Then someone gave me ANOTHER machine...I can't remember what
it's called...it's probably late 50's early 60's, made for Pfaff, weird
looking zigzag, with built in cams and lots of buttons, belt driven,
runs, smells like mold, and I haven't figured out how it works yet.  If
I can get it to work I think I'll give it to my sister in law, so she
can sew buttons on by machine, and have her give me back my old New
Home, which only sews straight.

CAMS FOR 401, 500, AND 600 SINGERS:

I found a couple of boxes of cams which fit above mentioned models, and
have several duplicates.  I am also missing a few, mainly #'s 8, 9, 10,
17, 18 and 19...I think....

Anyway I have lots of duplicates of other numbers which I would be
willing to sell, trade, whatever...E mail me with what you are missing,
and I will see if I have extras...If you happen to have extras of what I
am missing, that would make me VERY happy.


I also have the following singer slant needle feet which are extra which
I would be willing to trade, sell, or whatever....fat quarters are
always good...

Zipper foot #161166  says singer grtbrt.

2 seam guides, the type that screw on to the machine...I know they fit
the above mentioned machines, and I just walked over and screwed on into
my model 15, so they probably would fit just about any singer. #161172

2 narrow hemmer's; 1marked 161195 SINGER GTBRIT and theother marked
161195 simanco

Anyway...email me if you are interested in any of my goodies

Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 01:26:11 -0500
Subject: FWFanatics

I finally found time to update my inventory with new items and am offering
the following for sale.  Email me if interested.
Items will be sold on 'first come, first serve' basis.  When responding,
please indicate item numbers in left columns.  Thanks.  Millie

A17	 Singer 99-13 portable  $140
	Born ?? EF118850 in Great Britain.  Very good condition.  Curved wood case,
key, foot pedal. Original manual and attachments (8) included. Silver
ornamental face plate.  Gold intact. Has bobbin, case, red felt. Negatives:
major - none. minor: manual cover only is slightly dog-earred, cover of
attachment box missing, outlet-to-motor electric cord not original; some
gold missing from SINGER name on wood case.					
B8	Greist attachments for model 40 machine $20					Black tin box 
'Attachments for model 40 machine' on lid. Includes tucker, ruffler, cloth
guide, gathering foot, binder (?) and hemmer.  No attachment foot.
B9	White buttonholer for sale:   $25
	Comes with 4 templates, original manual.  In dark green unmarked 3 X 9"
cardboard box but cover missing. Also missing is feed cover plate/screw. 
B10	Singer high-shank multi-slotted binder  $5					No box.  
Hooks directly
to machine.  Part no 160624.   
B12	box of Household brand attachs $20					
	Copper box is chock full of 'Household' attachments.  3 hemmers, a tucker,
possibly a ruffler, a braider and 2 binders. A bobbin is 1.25 " long, made
of metal and extremely  narrow in center (like a nail). 			B13	oak
attachment box $40		
	Singer oak foldup attachment box for shuttle treadle machine.  Light brown
coloring; good condition; says "Patented February 10, 1889" in stamped oval
on lid.  Has holders for attachments, 2 attachments.  Hinges work well.
Shuts tight. Box folds out into 4 triangular-shaped sections. Interior
lining is hunter green velvet; very good condition.					
B14	Singer buttonholer #160506 $35					
	 Has 5 templates, copy of  buttonholer manual. Green plastic 4 x 9 box
w/attached hinged lid.  SINGER in raised letters on lid.  Includes feed
cover plate/screw. For low-shank machine.
B15	Singer buttonholer # 160743 - $35
	 Has 5 templates, copy of #160506 buttonholer manual. Maroon plastic 4 x 9
box w/attached hinged lid.  SINGER in raised letters on lid.  Includes feed
cover plate/screw. For slant-shank machine.
B16	Singer buttonholer $40
 	 For Touch &Sew machine. New. Complete.  SINGER green/white box.
B17	Singer buttonholer $40					
 	 For Touch &Sew machine. New. Complete.  SINGER green/white box.	B18	box
of Greist attachments $40
	Shiny black metal box with gold squiggle around perimeter.  Inside is
purple/black marblized thick paper lining w/ gold printing designating name
of each attachment. Each attach is secured to box. Include 4 hemmers,
binder, tuckerand  ruffler.  Misc items: quilting guide, 2 metal plates 1.5
x 3.5 inches, 2x4" paper of instructions.  Box and attachments all in good 
condition.  No attach foot. 					
B21	Needle Book $10
 	Paper packet of needles labeled "Sewing Club"  w/picture of 4 ladies
sewing - perhaps 1940's vintage. No date or manufacturer given.  Originally
60 assorted gold eye needles, 1 threader. Threader and half  needles are
 missing.  Excellent condition.
B25	Singer buttonholer $35					
	 Has 5 templates, copy of White buttonholer manual. Green plastic 4 x 9 box
w/attached hinged lid.  SINGER in raised letters on lid.  Includes feed
cover plate/screw. For low-shank machine.
B26	Set of attachments $20					
 	Box is plastic 3x5", black/white. No manufacturer anywhere.  Attachs look
new; include: ruffler, multi-slotted binder, cloth guide/screw, zipper foot,
2 thimbles, zig-zag foot, straight-stitch foot, hemmer, quilting guide,
darning foot, 1 unidentified.
B29	attachment box $20					
	Shiny black metal box with gold lettering (ATTACHMENTS) on top w/ gold
squiggle around perimeter.  Inside is purple velvet and 6 attachments, 5 of
which are binders.  Other attachments are missing.  
B30	Singer buttonholer #160506 $35					
	 Has 5 templates, copy of  buttonholer manual. Green plastic 4 x 9 box
w/attached hinged lid.  SINGER in raised letters on lid.  Includes feed
cover plate/screw. For low-shank machine.					
B31	oak attachment box $40
	Singer oak foldup attachment box for shuttle treadle machine.  Medium brown
coloring; good condition; says "Patented February 10, 1889" in stamped oval
on lid.  Has maroon interior lining; no attachments or holders. Shuts
tight.Box folds out into 4 triangular-shaped sections. Interior lining is
hunter green velvet; very good condition.					
B32	Greist buttonholer $40
	1956. Includes original manual, 5 templates, cover plate.For low-shank
machines. Box in great condition too.
B33	Greist blind stitch hemmer $25					
 	In Greist box, this cute item is only 4 inches long.  Included is darling
blue Greist thimble.  No manual.
B34	Kenmore attachments $30					
	In 6X9 cardboard box, this  "Sew-by-Color" set includes about 12
attachments as well as 2 screw drivers and a  rectangular cover plate.
Attachments are keyed by color to instruction cards. Complete set except for
instruction card for 'cutting guide'.
B35	Singer Darner for mending socks #35776 - #40
	Very old and quite unique.  Darner is oval metal (rusty)with 6 curved  wire
'legs'.  An oval spring is accomodated in a groove at the top of the darner.
Box is in rough shape and pic of darner in use on machine is partially
missing. No manual. Designed for 'any sewing machine (lock stitch)'. Page
240 of 1961 'Singer Sewing Book' by Mary Brooks Picken shows a similar
darner and instructs on useage. A copy of this page is included with darner.
B36	hand-held pinker $20
	Made by Crane, this hand held pinker is mostly black but silver too.  It is
not a 'scissors pinker'.  Rather it has a circular blade which pinks the
fabric as you move it in a scissors-like manner.
B37	bobbin case # 15277 $10
	also 4 bobbins to fit
B38	bobbin case $3					
	best guess:  white rotary part #863 old style
B39	attachment box $12					
	Shiny black metal box with gold lettering (ATTACHMENTS) 
on top w/ gold squiggle around perimeter.  Inside is purple velvet. No
holders; no attachments.  
B40	Greist zigzagger. $15
	Has White name on items.  No part number.  Comes in plastic maroon case
with clear top.  5 incles long. No instructions.
B41	"Super Stitch' sewing machine $10
	battery operated, hand-held.  11 inches long. Instruction sheet included.
B42	hand-held sewing machine $7
 	battery operated, hand-held.  8 inches long. Instruction sheet included.
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 10:02:45 -0500
Subject: Toy machines

I am interested in buying toy machines.  I live in New England and don't
want to pay Calif prices.  Does anyone have a source for buying toy
machines?  I would love to own a Singer model 20.  

Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 08:48:51 -0600 (CST)
Subject: I don't know what this is!!

Hello again, everyone!

It was a gorgeous weekend in Iowa (finally) so my DH and I went antiquing 
on Sunday afternoon.  I found a black Singer in a bentwood case in 
wonderful condition.  There's not a scratch on the case and the machine 
would rate an 8, I think.  It came with a buttonholer (121795), stocking 
darner(35778), a darning and embroidery attachment (160719, for 15 Class 
and 221 machines).  The knee lever was in the top of the case and there 
were two clamps, one probably for an oil can and I don't know what the 
other one was for.  There was also a Simanco something or other #121318 
that looked like a sewing bird.  It had a screw clamp on the bottom with 
a jaw type thing (sort of) on the top.  What is this?  The machine does not 
have a spool pin on the top (maybe it's missing?), only one down at the front 
where you would wind the bobbin.  The tension dial, which looks like the 
one on a FW, and the take up lever are one piece with the scrolled face plate 
at the left end of the machine.  The bobbin case fits in like a FW's but 
the spool is wider with only one small hole in it.  I bought it because it 
included all of the attachments including those described above and was in such 
good condition and because I'm crazy, for $65.00.  I don't know, however, 
what machine this is.  It had so much included with it, but, alas, there 
was no manual.  Help, help, help!  I know you have the answer, so please 
e-mail me.  Also, if anyone has a manual for sale or a copy of the manual 
I could buy I'd sure be happy to get my hands on one.  

I spent last evening cleaning it up, polishing it, adjusting it, etc. and 
it works wonderfully.  Now, if I just know what I had.  Oh, I also need a 
short thumb screw to hold the presser foot on.  All that is there is a 
longer one.  

Thanks for all of the help.

Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 10:19:06 -0500
Subject: Oil Cans and Mr. Wonderful!

Hi All,

What is the going price for an oil can? I found  several but I don't know
what to pay. I didn't have time to look closely but they looked to be in very
 good shape.  They are green with the red S etc. on the front. They  are oval
in shape (cross section) and I think about 3" tall. 

I also found Mr. Wonderful! No not a romantic interest, I'm already very
happily married. A retired Singer repairman!!!! I went over to his house last
Friday and thought I had died and gone to heaven when I entered his garage.
He has a cabinet that is about 5' tall and as long as his garage. It has 5 or
6 banks of drawers similar to type cases. Each drawer is sectioned off,
labeled, and filled to the brim with Singer parts! He has several drawers of
obscure needles so if there is anything specific you need, let me know. He
had needles to fit a treadle from the Ford motor Company! He charges $1 per
needle. Not a bad price to me considering the obscurity of some of these. I
really wish I had more time to spend there maybe this week. There were
treadle drawers everywhere, boxes and boxes of foot pedals, machines (no FWs
right now but he did have at least three 301s, I'm going back to check them
out). It was so fun because I could see how excited he was to show his loot
to someone who cared. I left him with a wish list of parts and my most recent
acquisition (a Singer 201) so he could find a power cord for it. I hope to
leave the kids home when I go back for it so I can really relish the
experience of being in a gold mine. 

E-mail me right away if there is something specific you need (please be very
specific) and tell me the price you are willing to pay and I will see if he
has it. I hope to go back for my 201 today or tomorrow. I will probably go
back again sometime but with my four little ones I can't go too often. Sorry
this has gotten so long. Can you tell I am a bit excited? Katy
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 09:51:22 -0600 (CST)
Subject: FW Buttonholers &Other

Hello All,

I have two buttonholers ready to sell.  They are the 160xxx style with 
the green soft plastic box, instruction manual, five cams, a feed cover 
plate and attachment screw. I have cleaned and lubed them, and will 
run-test them before selling.

Also Selling-
Zig-Zag Attachment-this works neat on the FW and other Singers, if you 
take a little time to practice.  Almost-new condition in original box with 
instruction manual.  

Blind Stitching Attachment-
Also fits FW and others.  Very good condition in original box with 
instruction manual.

Please email me if interested.  I have complete part numbers and 
applications chart (which machines they fit) if you have questions.

PS I am looking for a needle plate to fit a WHITE automatic machine 
(probably from late '60's).  It is larger than most.


Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 09:53:00 -0600 (CST)
Subject: Mystery machine

I forgot to mention the number of my new mystery machine.  AH133025.  
Does anyone know the approximate age from this number.

Thanks for all of your help.

Karen P
Date: 26 Feb 96 12:05:31 EST

Glad that yoy are up and running, well done.

To Suzy; Your Singer 24 was introduced as an industrial machine -- the chain
stitch has many rag-trade advantages. Most were used in sweat shops being driven
off a line shaft and therefore never has their own drive system. Hovever, Singer
did produce a hand-crank version as pictured in the book you mentioned and that
I would rather not publicise by naming again.It comes in a bent-wood box very
similar to the commoner Singer Family. It's always worth lifting the lid....
The Anderson plant you asked about was Singer's premises in Anderson South

To Lisa: Re factory designations.
The factory designation, if it was not made in the USA, followed the model
number. Thus the 222K is clearly made in Scotland.
The serial number is more confusing.

I have in front of me as I write a Singer explanation of serial numbers. For
American machines it gives two examples.
The first is S8247053. The explanation tells us that:
 the S was the particular assembly line on which the machine was put together
the 8 indicates 1981
the 247 indicates the day of the year (Sept 4)
the 053 indicates that it was the 53rd machine built that day.

The second example is A1061C027
the A indicates Anderson, South Carolina
the 1 indicates 1981
the 061 indicates the day of the year (march 2)
the C indicates the assembly line
the 027 indicates the 27th machine that day.

There are other examples for the plants in Scotland and in Germany.

It's probably the above system that the 0800 number uses to so-accurately date
machines and why they are sometimes multiples of ten years wrong as the 1 in the
second example could be 1951, 61, 71, 81 or 91. Presumably models seldom lasted
more than a decade in unchanged form so this wouldn't be too much of a problem.

Confussed? So am I.

To Marie
I posted piece on the Boyle cabinet about two weeks back

The Boyle is still about $50 too high unless it has every shuttle and needle box
still in it.
Machines such as the Wheeler and Wilson do not have any collecting value so it's
a subjective decision. If you like it, want to live with it, then go for it. For
the record the only W&Ws with collecting value are those which use a curved

To Lisa
Singer produced a whole series of "international" postcards in the 1930s showing
Singers being used in various countries by operators in national dress. You've
got one -- there's 24 to go and then you can start on the Singer Songbird series
and then the various photo-gravure typographical views from most major cities.
Collecting never stops. Expect to pay between 3 to 5 bucks a time for them.
More, pro rata, for sets in original packing.
Oil can sounds good glad you beat an oil-can collector to it.

Regards from rainly old London
Graham F, ISMACS 
Date: 26 Feb 96 13:11:33 EST
Subject: Re: FWFanatics 2/25/96

I'm new to FW Fanatics and am expecting my first FW in the mail  any day now!
My very good friend in FL found it for me at a flea market and it is on its way
to me in MN.

My question is about a toy machine I bought in IA 4-5 yrs ago.  It is med to
dark blue. Says Junior Miss at the top (like where the Singer name goes), has a
crank wheel on the side that is silver looking with
 a black wooden knob on the side to turn with.  On the base it has some gold
scroll and written in light blue says: West Haven  Connecticut.  Also has an art
palette in red and gold that says Artcraft Metal Products Inc.  It is mounted to
a stained wooden base that has 2 holes in the front.  The base measurement is
43/8 by 81/2.  It has a needle in it but I haven't been able to get it to sew or
chain.  Does anyone have any info on this toy machine? Thanks for your help.

Subject: Boyes needle cases
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 12:41:24 -0600 (CST)

I have read with interest the discussion on the Boyes needle cases.
I have 2--an old one with shuttles and needles still in original 
wrapping and a newer one that is about half full of needles, etc.
I would be willing to sell the newer one for $150.00 plus shipping
if anyone is interested.  They make a great conversation piece.

E-mail me privately if you are interested.

Karen N
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 11:35:08 -0800
Subject: Featherweights

I,ve been in the sewing machine business for over 15 years and have seen
many types 
of machines in that time.I do have a question ref and Elna featherweight
I,ve just picked up an Elna model 50 FW with the case that converts it into
a flatbed.The 
machine,parts box and manual are in extremely good shape.There are a few marks
on the upper front part of the machine but the remainder is in near new
Does any one out there know what the value would be?One more point,after
reading the fanatics entries I,ve just got to say that I picked up a 221 FW,case
manual and attachments this morning,all in excellant shape.I wonder what this 
might be worth as well.I really should have been keeping better track of
prices.Any help would be much appreciated. 
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 14:43:52 -0600 (CST)
Subject: FW 221K

HI,  Jim, thanks for the information on the 4 different FW models.  I
thought this to  would be of general inerest.  The model number on the FW is
CAJ6-8 which if this holdes true mine is 221K5 but it does have the light
switch on the light housing.  It does not have a three prong plug, either.
So I am still confused to what model number it is. Is there anyother
distinguishing features that I might be able to compare?  I didn't know
until Jim brought it up that there were 4 different FW models.  It only goes
to prove that you can learn something new almost everyday from the wonderful
people on the FWFanatics. I look forward every day to reading my mail.
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 17:31:02 -0500
Subject: Old machines

Well, I have been looking for all of these wonderful bargains that everyone
else seems to be finding without luck.  Last week I went to one of my local
antique malls and was looking at a toy machine.  I was chit chatting with the
clerk, and he told me that last month they sold an old treadle for $8000!
 That's right, and no I did not accidently add an extra zero.  I couldn't
believe it as I check out this mall regularly, and I didn't remember it.  It
was purchased by a museum the man said.  It was a West &Wilson in a lovely
treadle cabinet according to him.  I, of course, could not wait to get home
and look it up in my Carter/Bays book.  There it was - without a cabinet -
listing for $8,000-$15,000.  I have recently received my 2 past issues from
ISMACS, and Maggie Snell said that the prices in the Carter/Bays book were
optimistic.   Any comment from Graham on this sale would be interesting. The
clerk didn't say what museum.  I find it hard to believe that a museum has
this type of money to spend on a sewing machine.  Is it possible that it was
 one of those questionable "museums", and they plan to sell it for a profit
based on the value quoted in the CB book?   Come to think of it, that thought
crossed my mind also!!  
     I had to laugh because in another booth they had a Standard Automatic of
unknown vintage complete with cellar cobwebs for $248.  It appeared to be a
Wilcox &Gibbs clone that was meant for a treadle base as it had a LARGE
screw on the base that I assume fit into a hole in the treadle base - nothing
as elaborate as a hinge! The tag read:  "old sewing machine". You could tell
that he knew nothing about sewing machines.   I might have been interested if
the price was considerably less because the decals were in good shape, but
this dealer was terribly optimistic about a machine that had to lay on its
side because of the bottom screw.
    Next week I am to go and see a machine in a neighboring town.  While
looking for another hand crank I came across a dealer who said that she had
one and was going to take it to an antique show later.  I tried to get more
information about it and in the process she told me about a treadle that she
had for sale also.  She described it as a Singer with a last patent date of
1856 and a top that folded around the head of the machine.  It had one small
drawer and wood post that connected the foot part of the treadle to the top
wheel.  I was intrigued.  She wanted $200 for it.  I ran to my CB book again.
 I found one that fits the criteria she described, but it lists its value at
$2000-$4000.  Even if this is an optimistic value, $200 seems like a fair
price.  I'm sure it will turn out to be a run of the mill treadle, but with
antiques the chase is half the fun.  I will let you know what happens.
     I've run on too long, but no one else in my house is the least bit
interested in my passion.

Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 20:46:41 -0500
Subject: FWFanatics

Here is part two of my inventory including manuals, books and misc. items.
Please email me if interested.  Thanks.  Millie	Please bear with me.  I know
it is a lot of stuff to read through!!  At the end, I promise a story about
my FW hunt today!!!
H1	White: Schools of Costume Art   $12			
	1931 copyright. 5X8 with 184 pages. Intended for home sewer and commercial
sewer.  Included tailoring. Hard cover.			
H2	Singer: Home Decorations Sewing Book  $12			
	1961. 8x11. 128 pages. Contains many photos and illustrations.  Hard 
H3	Singer Sewing Book  $50			
	1969.  By Gladys Cunningham. 8X11. 428 pages. Condition excellent. Hard
cover; bound.			
H4	Singer Sewing Book  $50			
	1961.  By Mary Brooks Picken. 8X11. 260 pages. Condition excellent. 
Hardcover; loose-leaf.			
H5	The Mary Brooks Picken Method of Modern Dressmaking  $40			1925.  By 
Brooks Picken, Dressmaking Editor, Pictorial Review 
Company. 8X11. 96 pages. Many sketches and photos. Condition very good;
cover shows some wear. Hardcover; bound.			
H6	McCall's Decorating Book  $15			
	1964.9X12. 305 pages.  Full of color photos.			
H7	Fabric Painting  $15			
	By Melanie Williams.  1994. 11X11, 48 pages.  Hardcover.  Many color 
photos.  Folk-art samples.			
H8	BH&G Creative Crafts and Stitchery $10			
	1976. 146 projects for embroidery, weaving, crochet, knitting, needlepoint,
applique, framing, woodworking.			
H9	Crochet and Creative Design $10			
	1973. By Annette Feldman.  8X10, 177 pages.			
H10	Afghans, Traditional and Modern  $10			
	1977 by Bobbie Bray for Spinnerin Yarn Company. 9X11.  96 pages. Full 
page color photos of afghans.			

Note: where manual copies are requested, the first is $5; subsequent are $3
E1	Singer booklet: Student's Manual of Machine Sewing -copy
	1954.  6 x 8 " w/ 70 pages. References to various Singer machines (i.e.,
class 66, 201, 15, 99, 115, 127, 128, 301, 221). 			
E2	99k manual-copy
	Singer Model 99k.  1953.72 pages. 3.5 x 5". Dogearred, mildew.
E3	Singer 20 Sewhandy manualcopy
        1955 copyright.  How cute!  All illustrations and pictures - no
narrative.    In color.  
E4	Greist manual -copy
	How to use Griest attachments  1957 about 4 x 4 inches, 36 pages. Contains
detailed description of how to use about a dozen different attachments,
including attachment foot.. 
E5	Singer 15-125 manual  $15
	1956 copyright. 4x6".  72 pages.  Black cover with red, green, white
lettering. Excellent condition.			
E6a	Singer 66-1 manual  $20
	 1905 copyright. 6x9". 28 pages. Tan cover. Very good condition.
E6b	Singer 66-18 manual  $20
	1941.  3X6 green with Singer logo.  Excellent condition.
E7	Singer 115 manual  $15
	1944 copyright. 36 pages.  3.5x6". Green/yellow cover.
E8	Wheeler &Wilson No 9 sewing machine manual -  copy 
	Not dated but probably early 1900's. Missing back cover, binding mostly 
undone; pages in good condition. Dull green cover w/black 
print.		E9	Singer
814/834 Finesse zig-zag manual  $10
	1970 vintage? 64 pages. 5.5 x 8". Yellowish cover.
E10	Singer booklet:  Illustrated Dressmaking Guide  $20
	1943   8.5 X 11". 48 pages. 
E11	Singer booklet:   Short Cuts to Home Sewing  $10
	1928  5.5x8". 48 pages. By Mary Brooks Picken. White cover w/photo.  New
Adventures in Sewing series.	
E12	Singer booklet:  Short Cuts to Home Sewing  $10
	1930  5.5x8". 48 pages. By Mary Brooks Picken. White cover w/photo. Singer
Sewing Library no. 1.
E13a	Singer booklet:  How to Make Dressses   $10
	1932  5.5x8". 48 pages. White cover w/photo. Singer Sewing Library no. 2.
E13b	Singer booklet:  How to Make Dressses  $10
	1932  5.5x8". 48 pages. White cover w/photo. Singer Sewing Library no. 2.
E13c	Singer booklet:  How to Make Dressses   The Modern Singer Way $10
	1945  5.5x8". 48 pages. White cover w/photo.  By Mary Brooks Picken
E14a	Singer booklet:   How to Make Draperies  $10
	1934 . 5.5x8 ".64 pages. By Mary Brooks Picken. White cover w/photo. Singer
Sewing Library no. 4.
E14b	Singer booklet:   How to Make Draperies  $5
	1960 . 5.5x8 ".32 pages. White cover w/photo. Singer booklet no. 102.
E14c	Singer booklet:   How to Make Draperies $5
	1960 . 5.5x8 ".32 pages. White cover w/photo. Singer booklet no. 102.
E15	Singer booklet:  How to make Slip Covers  $5
	  1961.  About 5.5 x 7.5  32 pages. White cover w/photo. Singer Sewing 
Library No. 113		
E16a	Greist booklet:   Sewing Magic for Teenagers  $15
	1954. 6 x 8 " 37 pages.   Contains detailed description on using a dozen 
different attachments. Green cover.			
E17	Singer booklet:  Fashion Aids  $10
	1934 6.5 x 9 " 16 pages.  Off-white cover with sketches.
E18a	Singer booklet:  How to Make Children's Clothes $10
	1931 6.5 x 9 " 64 pages. By Mary Brooks Picken. Cover white with picture.
Singer Sewing Library no. 3.	
E18b	Singer booklet:  How to Make Children's Clothes $10
	1928 6.5 x 9" 64 pages.Cover white with picture.  By Mary Brooks Picken
E20	Singer #160506 buttonholer manual -copy
	3X6, 30 pages.  Excellent condition.
E21	Singer 112w145 and 112w146 Industrial $10
	6X8 inches, green with bring orange Singer logo.  24 pages.
E22	Singer 400w1 to 400w5 Industrial - high speed lock stitch $10
	6X8 inches, green with bring orange Singer logo.  32 pages.
E23	Singer Class 71 Industrial - for making straight buttonholes  $10
	6X8 inches, green with bring orange Singer logo.  20 pages.
E24	Singer Class 69 Industrial  $10
	6X8 inches, green with bring orange Singer logo.  14 pages.
E25	Singer Class 114 Industrial - single thread chain stitch  $10
	6X8 inches, green with bring orange Singer logo.  33 pages.
E26	Singer Class 241 Industrial  $10
	6X8 inches, green with bring orange Singer logo.  25 pages.
E27	Singer 245-4 Industrial - gear driven rotary hook  $10
	6X8 inches, green with bring orange Singer logo.  31 pages.
E28	Singer 153w101, 153w102, 153w103, 154w101 Industrial - high speed
cylinder bed  $10
	6X8 inches, green with bring orange Singer logo.  22 pages.
E29	Singer 95-80, 95-100 Industrial - high speed lock stitch  $10
	6X8 inches, green with bring orange Singer logo.  22 pages.
Note: The above set of 9 Singer industrial manuals (E21 thru E29) can be
purchased for $55.
E30	Singer : A Manual of Family Sewing Machines - copy 
	6X8 green.1926 copyright.  specially prepared for students in schools and
colleges.  48 pages.  Has 6 pages dedicated to 'The Electric Sewing 
E31	Simplicity Sewing Book  $10
	1954 copyright.  Soft cover. 8X11, 103 pages. Covers all facets of clothing
construction.  Bonus:  Sewing Tools on page 17 features a black
E32	Simplicity's 'Simply the Best' Home Decorating Book  $15
	1993. 8x10, 247 pages.  Softcover, spiral-bound. Many illustrations, 
color photos.	
E33	USDept of Agriculture farners' bulletins: 'Pattern Alteration' and 
'Making a Dress at Home'  $2	Both by Margaret Smith, clothing specialist.
1944/45 copyrights. 6X9. 24 pages and 40 pages.			
E34	Booklet:  The Bride's Book  $5
	1918 6x9.5" 20 pages. Handwritten in ink.  Details of wedding of Alice 
Marguerite Warner, Robert David MacKesson in West Hartrford, CT.  Includes 
trousseau, attendants, gifts, first callers, honeymoon, etc.  Intact but
condition.   A great read!			

C3	Brother oil can  $20
	Round, dome shaped, 2" diameter w/ 1.5 " screw-in spout poking up from
center.  Stamped BROTHER on top and is shiny, like new.  			
C4	oil can $20
	dome shaped with 2 inch diameter.  Spout is 4 inches long and curved 
at end.  Good condition.			
C5	dome-shaped Singer Oil can $30
	Round, dome shaped, 2 " diam with 1.5 inch screw-in spout poking up 
center.  Stamped SINGER on top.			
C6	oil can  $10
	tiny rectangular 1 X 2 incles with 1 inch spout.  Cover intact. Has oval 
on each side which possibly has Singer logo at one time.			
C7	oil can $10
	tiny rectangular 1 X 2 incles with 1 inch spout.  Cover missing. Has oval
on each side which possibly had Singer logo at one time.			
C9	leather needle book $15
	reddish-brown leather cover with 3 felt pages holding about 20 needles.
Tied with leather strip.  Says 'Needles and Pins" and 'Cliff House, San 
Francisco".  'Edith' wrote her name on it in red ink!			
C10	miniature treadle sewing machine  $15
	Quite old.  Black and gold metal.
C11	cabinet drawer  $20
	Solid oak face, no veneer.  Crisscross design.  Hardware has roung pull 
and engraved with SINGER. Dimensions: 12.5L, 4.75W, 4.5 H.			
C12	cabinet drawer $12
	circular/wreathlike design on face will wood pull knob.  Dimensions: 
12.5L,  4.5W, 3.75 H.			

M1      gold sewing machine pin with 4 tools handing (scissors, thread. etc.) $8
M2      same as M! only in silver  $8
M3      black sewing machine suncatcher $5
M4      3.5 X 4.5 inches framed pic on easel. Pic is of a black sewing
machine surrounded byyardage and bolts of fabric, etc.  Sign in picture says
Antique Buttons.  Real cute. $10 
M5      same as above but no easel  $7
M6      repro Singer signs.  dimensions about 10X16.  3 different ones. $18 each

My heart skipped a beat!!  I'm in this real fancy group antique shop and
sure to find nothing here.  Then I spot an electrified Wilcox/Gibbs, or some
such.  Next to it is a black box sitting on the floor.  Handle in center of
top.  Two latches.  And I could read the price on the tag - $150.  My lucky
day!!  Except that then I noticed that the case was slightly larger than a
FW case.  Read the tag and it said 'theatrical makeup kit'!  What a

Thanks for hanging in there!!  Millie 
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 22:03:54 -0500
Subject: Spartan...again

It's me again,  bugging you about my sister's Singer Spartan.  I reported
last that this little machine is labeled 192K on the front and serial number
began with ES.  From past postings I guessed the birthdate to be around 1962.
 I called Singer this am to get alittle closer dob and was told the machine
was a model 15 with the dob 9/22/50.  I questioned if I had given the
operator the correct number, she assured me, I had.  Is the Spartan a model
15?  Where does the 192K come in?  BUFK50A told us in her computer
compilation of machines that she has a Spartan(192K), serial number beginning
with EP and dob in 58 so it goes to figure that ES would be older.
Again, does anybody have any info on these machines and a manual to sell or
copy?   Thanks again for listening. Jacque
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 22:01:39 EST
Subject: Number 3

Well, I've proved I have no will power.  I watched an ad in the local 
paper for a week for a fw, best offer over $400.  The next week it 
was in the paper again, best offer over $300.  I waited 4 days, and 
couldn't stand it any more, telling myself it was surely gone.  And 
if not, it was a sign.  The sweet little old lady still had it (!), 
so I went over after work, she only lives 1/2 mile from me.   Another 
sign!  Well, I looked it over, explained I am a quilter, etc, and 
offered her $275.  To my surprise, she accepted.  She had been told 
by the sewing repair man that she could get $800 for it.  (Obviously 
not around here, she couldn't).  But she said she would rather it 
have a loving home, as it had been her mothers.  It's an AH, just 
like my first fw!  Quite a bit of the gold is worn from the bed and 
tray, but other than that it's a sweet little machine.  However, the 
repair man hadn't even replaced the belt, I think all he did was 
spray it down with WD40, it was just coated, oil even dripping from 
the needle!!  But she is all cleaned up now, and purring away.  Now 
if I can just get dh to understand why I have the need for three 
fw's!  Well, one I keep in it's table in my sewing room, the other 
goes to classes, and this one I guess is a "just because".  
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 07:58:20 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Tiny Tailor

Our daughter is always on the look out for Singers for us.  Yesterday she
found a Tiny Tailor Mending Machine in a thrift store.  It is very small
and has a shuttle type bobbin.  Made in France.  I had never heard of these
but I called Singer customer service.  They were made for a few years from
mid 80s to maybe 1990.  Rep said they now have a new one out with a round
bobbin.  Called a Singer store.  They don't carry them and said it was
more of a toy.  Costs $79.95 new.  Does anyone know anything about these?  

Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 08:22:57 -0500
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 2/23/96

Attended a mid-Michigan auction this week where a 1937 Featherweight machine
with booklet and accessories went for $400. Also saw a 1953 machine for $295
firm at the Saginaw(Mich) Antique Mall. Booklet and accessories intact.
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 08:40:16 -0500
Subject: Singer 99

Peggy K :
Hi, yes, my 99k is in a chery cabinet with support arm
are you seeking a cabinet?  I don't know if any companies
stock a cabinet
Cheryl h
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 10:03:01 -0800
Subject: fabric-featherweignts-fondleing-anonomous

Hi all, 
I'm a michigan sewing machine addict.  I also have an addiction to
fabric, and quilting notions.  
  For a long time I was able to hide my addictions, under beds, in the 
kids closets.  And then before I realized, I began on cabinet models.
And whole bolts of fabrics.  I begun to hang notions on the wall, 
display toys in the lving room.  I have fabric in containers, stacked
high, and covered with even more fabric. Down came the draperies.  In 
thier place, draped fabric.
 I began putting floweres  in the bed of the machines to discuise them. I 
have closed the spare  bathroom, and filled it with sewing items. 
 I have sewing machines in every room except my youngests bedroom, 
and the main bath.
  My youngest has taken to saying NO mom, My room is full.
 He knows it's just a matter of time.
  Too many mornings have been spent haunting antique malls. Always asking 
 {any 221"s?]
  I ADMIT IT, I have a problem.  I know that is the first step.  I'm 
seeking help.  I guess i realized when teapots started showwing up
around here in the shape of antique machines, and the smell of W-D40
was always lightly in the air.  
Phone calls to friendly machine service men...
  When I saw this newsletter posted I knew I had a place to go.  Others
before me had suffered the same pain.  
  If there are any more michigain addicts, I'd love to hear from
you.  I can't possibly bear this alone.  Perhaps we could gain strength 
from each other.  I know a shop in traverse city that had a fw last 
Keep comming back, it works!
Cheryl E
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 11:53:06 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Re: FW's For Sale

   I have a the following machines availabe for sale with shipping and 
handling on the FW's 25, that includes a tracer, and insurance for the 
amount of the machine.

AG BD 2-18-46 Attachments, Case, Manual, good condition, wear on the 
black $375.

AF BD 4-10-40- Attachments, Case, Manual, very good condition even wear $375.

AJ BD 1-23-50  Attachments, Case, Manual very good condition, even wear, 

AM BD 6-10-55  Attachments, Case, Manual, great condition, later  edition 
scrollwork. $510.

AJ BD 10-26-50 An Anniversary, Attachments, Case, Manual, gold good a few 
scratches on black and scratch on throat plate $495.

AM Case, later edition scrollwork, very good condition $475.

AJ BD 12-9-48 Good condition, case, manual copy, $450

AJ BD 3-18-49, good condition gold good, wear on black, attachments case, 
copy of manual $450.

AL BD 12-12-52 Attachments, Case, copy manual, gold good, wear on black $450

2  Buttonholers $35. includes shipping

1 Toy left-German garden deco pre WWII, plate is stamped Made in Germany, 
plate needs cleaning and buffing, deco in good conditon Spoked wheel that 
has cleaned up nicely. $130. Please feel free to call for further 
information at 619-753-5418. I'm up early on the west coast to do east 
coast business so early calls are fine, and that way you'll beat the 
Teens who totally have taken over the phone from after school till 
bedtime.  Zsux
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 15:21:55 -0500
Subject: Re: FWFanatics 2/24/96

Does anyone know anything about a Futura II, with the numbers 920 or it could
be Q20?   I seem to remember I had trouble with the tension about 25 years
ago and had it overhauled.  Then I put in in a closet and left it.  It has
only been moved as we moved from house to house.  Thanks.  Judith
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 16:30:51 -0500 (EST)
Subject: GE mini sewing machine RE:Larry

Hi folks, I  recently aquired a little GE "feather Weight"like machine.The color 
is green and it is in good condition.All of the decals are pretty much there the 
paint is minimumly chipped and worn.It does not have a 
case,cord,attachments,tention disc,or a foot control.Let me know if anyone is 
interested,maby we make a trade or come to a fair price.                                                                                
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 19:23:11 -0500
Subject: Buttonholers

Hi fellow fanatics,
        I stopped in to visit my friend Cass Collins at Collins Sewing &
Vacuum Center in Columbus Georgia today.  We were looking around his store
room and discovered several buttonholers.  There were a couple low shank
Singer and Greist models and a couple slant shank Singer and Greist models.
These buttonholers are complete sets in boxes and appear to be unused. Cass
said he is willing to sell them for $30.00 each plus shipping.  The usual
disclaimer applies.  
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 18:47:01 -0600

Hello All!
Argh!  My second featherweight is a 5, my anniversary special is a 10.  I'm 
sewing with the 5 so that the 10 can be in tip top condition.  I am looking to 
purchase theVogue/Butterick step by step guide to sewing techniques.  The 
edition that I'd like is the 1989 copyright edition.  Anyone have one that I 
might be able to get at a used reasonable price?  Well thats all for now.  My 
Dad says thanks for all of the calls.
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 22:31:09 -0500
Subject: Collecting value!

Some comments on some comments --

SKRTRUE: Regarding the Wheeler &Wilson with the clever cabinet.  It sounds
very unusual to me, although $250 might be a little high.  The Wheeler &
Wilsons are very good for sewing.  We have two of them and are pleased.
  Graham said the W&W "do not have any collecting value."  Perhaps they DO
have value to those of us that appreciate a machine that sews well and feels
good.  I paid close to $400 for a Franklin machine (originally from Sears in
the 1920s) in an absolutely splendid parlor cabinet.  It is a fine furniture
piece with the added bonus of having a good working sewing machine inside.

suzy (Sue M.):  If your model 24 is anything like mine it is a darling little
machine.  Does it have the daisy decals?  The chain stitch can be used for
some fancy embroidery work -- just draw your pattern on the wrong side of the
fabric and stitch along the lines.  It looks great on the right side.  Our
model 24 was made January 17, 1906.

Lisa:  You got a good deal on the domed oil can.  I've heard of them going
for $40.  A friend polished mine on his bench buffer and it is now quite
shiny.  The bottom still looks old and stained (he didn't polish it).  I
don't know if you will have the same luck.

Katy in MI:  Oh lucky you, finding Mr. Wonderful.  Some day my prince will

Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 22:46:08 -0500
Subject: Carter/Bays book

This has probably been asked and answered before, but what is the Carter/Bays

Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 23:42:46 -0500
Subject: Mr. Wonderful Part 2

Hi All, 

Mr. Wonderful is also speedy. As soon as I e-mailed my post to the list, he
called and said my stuff was ready so I went back before I heard from you

Wow what a response! I am compiling a list of wants that I have collected so
far but I don't think I can do  any more at this time or I will be spending
the rest of my life packing and shipping. I'm sorry but I can only do so

 He seems a bit guarded about selling some of his stuff. I think he sold some
to me because he realized I valued it highly and because I found out he knows
my  inlaws! I asked him about a lot of stuff but on many items he just wasn't
ready to give a price on. I don't want to push him. He is a very nice man and
he seems a bit torn between collecting and selling, definitely a kindred

For those of you that e-mailed me, I will probably go back in a couple weeks.
As I said, I am compiling a list and I will get back to you on it at that
time. I hope it is okay to get the message to you via the list but it will
take me a long time to respond individually to everyone.

Thanks, Katy
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 1996 00:58:29 -0500 (EST)
Subject: the Spartan

This is to Jacque whose sister has a Spartan.  Yes, a Spartan is a model
192.  Your information from Singer is a mistake.  Imagine how I felt when
they told my first FW was a 328!  Sometimes those people at Singer just
have the wrong data.  An EV number is 1964 so now you can date your
Spartan a little closer.

You are sending your freezing weather our way.  Today it was 71 degrees
and tomorrow it may snow.

Date: Wed, 28 Feb 1996 01:40:40 -0600 (CST)
Subject: disaster averted!

Many thanks to Al for his information regarding replacement power 
cords for our FW's!  I was able to convince a local shop that they really 
*do* "make cords to fit those old machines" by telling the guy it was 
#781 in his Brewer catalog...sure enough, there it was!  And he even had 
some in stock!  I bought two, one for my friend Karen whose FW-baby was 
challenged by the roll of electrical tape holding her cord together; told 
Karen the FWF horror stories about blown circuits and smoking motors and 
burned feet, so she wired the new cord into her foot pedal and everything 
is just peachy!  Karen admitted to being uneasy about the old cord, but 
here in town we're dealing with "authorized service" people who have said 
for months that something as simple as *bobbins* are back-ordered.  A 
thousand thanks to Sue, and to Al and everyone else who shares such 
valuable information!

Date: Sun, 25 Feb 1996 06:14:02 -0500
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 2/19/96

I added yet another Singer to my collection. At an auction last night they
had advertised a miniature Singer sewing machine, so of course I had to check
it out. Turned out it was a model 24 (I think, from looking at the pictures
in Jim Slaten's book), small cast iron with a wooden base. I don't think it
actually runs since it's missing some sort of crank mechanism, but it's so
cute I couldn't resist. Does anyone know anything about these machines? It's
only a chain stitch mechanism, so I don't know if it qualifies as a real
machine, but since it's dated around 1913, it seems to me to qualify as a
collectible! By the way, I want to thank you wonderful people for posting the
list of machine dates and also for the detailed description of cleaning old
machines. Such a great group! By the way, the list mentioned the NA &NB
machines being made at the Anderson plant - where was that? I'm curious since
quite a few of my machines have that serial #. Sue M. 
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 1996 06:52:07 -0500 (EST)
Subject: FWF Digest 2/27

Hello, all! I really enjoy this group and all I've learned from it. I just
started printing out the digests (thanks to editing help from Shirley)
so I can refer to them whenever I want! I loved Fran's stories about her
machine recycling program - how nice that you get all those all machines and
cabinets back into circulation in some needy home! Keep up the good work!
I'm so jealous of Katy who found "Mr. Wonderful" - I'm still looking for
him, but glad to know he really does exist out there somewhere. What a
wonderful resource! And Graham is an equally wonderful resource for us -
aren't we lucky to have someone so knowledgable who will answer all of our
questions. Thank you, Graham! My little 24 didn't come with the top to its
bentwood box, so I could see what it was, but the inside of the bottom has
me puzzled. There is some sort of box in there that looks like it was made
to generate electricity and it's attached to outlets at the front and back
for SOMETHING - can you tell what it is from this awful description?? There
is a hole in the wheel that I'm hoping I can find some sort of handle for so
I can turn the wheel - quite the challenge! Can't wait for yard sale season
to start now that I have so MANY things to look for - although snow's
predicted for the weekend, it's almost MARCH so there's hope! Sue M.
Date: Sun, 25 Feb 1996 09:59:55 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Green Box

I've asked this before, but never got a response.  Did the green Singer
box everyone keeps talking about come with the Featherweight?  Or was it
purchased separately?  I think I finally got to see one at a show
this weekend...but it's a plastic green box, not metal.  Were the attachments
originally housed in this green box?  The one I saw was around $30 I 
think but I passed it up.

Barb T
Date: Sun, 25 Feb 1996 10:25:46 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 2/18/96

I have the 99 manual and would be happy to xerox it for you.  Just sent 
me your snail mail.

Peggy K
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 1996 11:09:53 -0500
Subject: Minis at Auction in IN

Hi all!  I noticed an auction listing that includes "miniature sewing
machine collection."  It's a huge auction listing and doesn't give any
additional info on the machines, but I thought if someone was in the area
it might be worth a trip.  The ad includes a small picture of some of the
machines.  The auction is on Saturday, March 9 at 9:45 a.m. at 901 W. North
Street in Kendallville, Indiana.  If anyone is interested in more info, let
me know--there's a bit on directions, the auctioneer's name and the owner's

Happy hunting!
Amy L
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 1996 12:10:17 -0500
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics Part 1 of 2

I have come upon a source of old sewing machines. Since I am not interested
in anything but FWs,I have not paid any attention to previous postings
concerning other machines,therefore I do not know whether or not this is a
bonanza. The following list is exactly as it was given to me.The only
machines I personally saw were two 99Ks from 1928 &1930. They are in working
condition and he wants $120 each. He has cases (new) available for $35. The
rest of the list follows:
 Prices depend on the model and what it will take him to get them in working
condition. He is a bit tempermental, but a superb mechanic. He repaired a
machine for me that another experienced repairman told me was hopeless. Come
to think of it, he did that with two of my machines.
    If you are interested in any of the above let me know and I will do what
I can to help.
                             Ann L
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 1996 09:47:06 -0800
Subject: Need some information

Hello today!

I looked at a "Jones" treadle sewing machine the other day and it keeps
calling me back.I don't want to give up the two Singer treadles that I
have, but I don't want to "junk" up my home eather. I didn't think I would
buy anything ever except a Singer. The "Jones" had lovely scroll paint on
it and still in very mint condition. I believe it said something on it like
"as used by the royal family" The black metal stand had the name "JONES"
just like the Singer machines have "SINGER". Since our last name is Jones I
thought it would be fun. Is it considered collectable??? A good question
for Graham.

All of you in search of items for sale, please think about me if you ever
find a red, blue or green toy singer. I think all the good stuff is on the
East Coast.

Thanks for all the good information that keeps comming in!

Date: Wed, 28 Feb 1996 13:15:00 -0500
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 2/26/96 Part 2 of 2

Could some one post some complete information on all these books everyone is
talking about??  The price guides, old reference books, etc.  Title, Author,
Publisher, stuff like that.  As a newbie I'm unsure of what to ask/look for
at the book stores.

PS Graham---
Thanks for the copy of the W&W manual.
Date: 28 Feb 96 15:54:58 EST
Subject: Copntributions

To Carol
Re Junior MIss. Can't add a lot to what you have already got 'cept to say that
the machine was sold by Montgomery Ward in the mid to late 1940s. Should sew
after a fashion, be sure the looper under the stitch plate is correectly
positioned and is bright and shiny, otherwise thread will drag.

To all, especially dealers.
I've no problem helping Fanatics who have seen an old machine and want to know
whether it is worth the asking price -- it's part of a service we provide for
ISMACS members and are quite happy to extend to Fanatics. But lately I've been
getting e-mail from sewing machine dealers wanting to know how much they can get
for particular machines.I will not answer these.
Let me say this once. Mr dealer, you have bought a machine for resale. Why not
put a fair profit margin on it and resell rather than stay awake nights worrying
that you haven't screwed the last 10 cents out of it?

To Margel
Re the $8000 West and Wilson. You asked for my comments.
1) For some strange reason lot of mythology exists over selling prices. Some
dealers, in relating previous sales, will wildly understate the price they got
to show what a fair and generous person they are. Others believe in wildly
overstating the price to demonstrate their astute business acumen. Possibly
there are those who actually tell the truth.
2) My understanding is that this machine, which was probably the same one that
has been hawked around for the past few weeks sold for considerably less than
the price you quote but I can't be sure.
3) If the figure is correct or even a close approximation it was bought by one
of three American collectors, none of which has a museum. If was was bought FOR
a museum, it was purchased by a European antique dealer who then sells on to a
museum in Germany.
4) With reference to the $8,000 to$15,000 quoted in the Bays book: A head,
virtually same as the one  illustrated was sold at Christies' Auction House
London two weeks back. Every collector in the world would have known of the
sale. Top bid was $700. Draw you own conclusions.
5) There is, of course, the possibility, that the machine you speak of was
bought by someone hoping to make a quick buck by virtue of the price quoted in
Bays book. If so our speculator is in for a big shock -- a fate that should
befall everyone foolish enough to believe in price guides.

To find a Singer 20 you could try  Steve and Cathy at The Simple Machine in
Charlton Mass 508 248 6632. Say Graham sends hugs. Or you could make the
pilgrimage to Brimfield Mass for the largest antiques show in the world. Held
three times a year, Spring, Summer Fall. Get the dates from the Sturbridge
Visitor Centre (that's the way we spell it here). I can guarantee that among the
thousands (yes) of dealers, there will be those with Singer 20s. All you have to
do is beat the specialisist dealers to them and thus buy cheap. If all else
fails e-mail Maggie Snell 100644.3142@compuserve.com. She buys/sells more old
sms than anyone else in the world. For the record, I have a vested interest

To Karen
The thing that looks like a sewing bird is just that but without wings.
It's designed to clamp on the machine top and hold material so it doesn't get
dirty on the floor or jammed in the treadle.

To Christine

The Carter Bays book is a lush coffee-table publication printed about three
years back. It's high on good photographs but lacks  historical information.
Recommended for the pictures but has a price guide so far off reality that it
would be laughable if so many people didn't get suckered in by it
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 1996 17:23:02 -0500
Subject: Attachments For Sale

Hi All,

Just picked up another machine (that is another story) and it came with some
things I don't really need. 

Buttonholer #489510 This will fit low shank machines including the FW. This
is the newer version (1960) in the light green eggshaped case. It is in MINT
condition with all 5 templates, manual (also perfect), screwdriver, feed dog
cover and screw. This even has the original cardboard box that the eggshaped
case came in! I don't think it was ever used. Price:  $20

Singer Buttonholer Extra  Template Set in original packaging (red, white and
black) Part number 160668.  The package says it will work woth buttonholers
 160506, 160743, or 489510. Contains  3/8" straight, 1/2" straight, 5/8"
keyhole, and 15/16" straight templates. Price: $10

Black metal box of Greist attachments. These will NOT fit a FW. They work on
top clamping machines with the knurled collar. Contains 5 hemmers, edge
stitcher, binder, tucker, gatherer, cloth guide , fabric bias cutting guide,
foot hemmer, quilting guide and a few others I don't recognize. It does not
have a ruffler.The box is in very  good condition but I have no manual.

 Above prices do not include shipping. Please e-mail if interested. Thanks,
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 1996 20:36:20 -0500
Subject: Singer serial numbers

Graham: After looking at the serial numbers of over 300 Featherweights that
are on the database, I can guarantee you that there are no encrypted build dates in the serial numbers. The American serial numbers start at AD545389 (1933)and methodically increase to AM696632 (1957). A good example to disprove your explanation would be AK996181 and AL000663 (both of which I own, by the way, and I can tell you they are identical, not built years apart). These two
machines both have build dates of 8/11/52 (along with 10 other machines on
the survey). You can see that Singer obviously used a standard progression in
assigning numbers. Maybe the explanation you were given by Singer predates
1933 or is for machines made later than the 1960's. Since your example is for
1981, I will guess the latter. Also, I haven't heard of Singer giving out
what appear to be bad build dates on their machines. They do frequently,
however, insist that certain machines are different model numbers than what
they obviously are. The data we get from Singer in New Jersey is more
frequently incorrect for the British machines than with the American. And
there are many serial numbers, mostly the more recent FW's, that Singer is
unable to give any estimate of build date on. 
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 1996 20:47:23 -0500
Subject: Toy sewing machines

Went to a local antique shop today that I had not been to before.  They had a
tremendous selection of glass and crystal.  Only saw one regular machine in a
bent wood case for $75 but had no needle, attachments, or manual.  Was an
electric Singer with a knee lever.  Appeared to be in fair condition.  BUT,
did see a red "Kay-ee" toy sewing machine for $65.  It made a chain stitch
and looked almost new.  No needle.  Had a hand crank, but also had an
electric motor in the wood base with an off-on switch on the right hand side
of the base.  Had a small drawer in the left side of the base.  I tried
turning the crank and it moved smoothly.  If anyone is interested, e-mail me
and I will either give you the name of the shop or go pick it up for you.  I
don't dare get started on toys.  Looking for the elusive FW and my teddy
bears along with quilting are already getting me into enough trouble. :-)
Date: 28 Feb 96 22:10:15 EST
Subject: Treadle Machine 15-30 ?

I have been receiveing FWF for quite some time, but DH is the computer nut and I am still learning my way around.  Recently bought a Singer treadle machine in a closed in cabinet and not exactly sure what I have.  Perhaps Graham could give me some idea.

It is kind of amusing how we found the machine.  We were out looking for
machines and went to a fairly well known antique furniture store.  They normally have only large pieces or sets of furniture.  Well, I was nosing around and saw a cabinet that was interesting, not knowing it was even a sewing machine cabinet, lifted the lid and there was the machine down in the bottom of the cabinet.  Tried to get door open to inspect further to find out it was locked. I went to the counter to get the key and they informed me they didn't have the key.  Long story short, it took them overnight to open the cabinet and then called me to see if I was still interested.  They told me it had been part of a bedroom suite and the lady that bought the set did not want the sewing machine. 

I went to the library and did a little digging and found Sincere's History of
the Sewing Machine and found a picture of the machine I bought on page 164 which it says is a model 15-30.  My machine has the same decorative decals in green, red and gold, tension is on back side as in picture and thread take-up lever is to the left of the machine.  The number stamped on the base is C1182473.  When I called the Singer 800 #, they told me it was an industrial machine from 1915, but I feel it is too decorative to be called an industrial machine.  It came in a closed type cabinet similar to the one listed on page 175 of Sincere's book.  Any help would be appreciated.

Jan C
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 1996 22:52:45 EST
Subject: My find

Hello fellow FW lovers:

Thought I share my latest find.  On the spur of the moment last
Saturday, I stopped in at one of the local Singer dealers to inquire if
they had/could order parts for a recently aquired model 99 (knee lever
was included, does that make it a model  99-13?).  It needs the slide
plate over the bobbin, and he said yes, he could order that for me.
However, the big attraction for me was the 3 featherweights he had
displayed.  Two were for sale, an AE and an AF.  I already have an AM,
but have been lusting after a pre-war model.  The AF was in better
shape, but the AE had the case.  He was willing to swap the case, so
the litte AF and case came home with me!  For only $250!  The AE is
still in the shop for sale, for $200, but I must admit, now it doesn't
have a case (only a small amount of guilt on my part...)  He said he
was surprised the FWs had been there a couple of months, they usually
don't last that long.  He and his wife are collectors too.  She has a
white FW, and there were several toy machines on display (not for sale)

However, the most wonderous thing he also had on display was a mint
condition FW in a desk cabinet!! I hoped, but no, not for sale, only on
display.  The cabinet had an oval top with a cutout the FW drops into,
and I think another oval top without a cut out.  Two doors that opened
underneath with storage area.  I think it was maple.  Lovely to see and
I tried not to drool on it.

My conclusion is I need to frequent more Singer stores.  There is at
least one more in Charlotte I will have to drop by and see if they have
any wonders.  I have been frequenting antique malls with no success 
(other than the 99, which was born (per Singer) two days before my Mom
was born--in 1925)!  I also have a 66 in a cabinet that is from 1929. 
So my machine inventory is up to 2 FW, 2 old Singers, 1 Bernina, 1
JCPenney and 1 Bernina Serger....I think I need a treadle to round out
the collection!

Date: Wed, 28 Feb 1996 19:22:42 -0900
Subject: buttonholers for sale

I have a Singer buttonholer #121795 for $23 ppd and a Domestic buttonholer
with cams and throat plate cover for $20 ppd.  

Date: Thu, 29 Feb 1996 00:22:47 -0500
Subject: Help!!!!

Hi Everyone,

WOW!!!! I have been overwhelmed with e-mail since I offered to look for
specific items at Mr.  Wonderful's garage. I'm terribly sorry but I can't
possibly help out everyone who has e-mailed me. I can't even keep up with
responding to everyone. He isn't interested in doing a mail order business
and I can't ship and pack  a gazillion orders either. You have no idea of the
number of people that have asked me to look for specific items. 

If you received an individual e-mail from me, then you were at the front of
the line and  I will do my best to get what you are looking for. If not,
PLEASE do not be offended but I  can not only NOT do it all, but I can't even
keep up with my  e-mail to tell you all. 

I wish you all the best of  luck in discovering a Mr. Wonderful of your very
 own. Katy
Date: Thu, 29 Feb 1996 13:51:11 -0500
Subject: Re: Attachments for sale

All the attachments I listed yesterday are sold. Thanks! Katy
Date: Thu, 29 Feb 96 13:22:29 EST

     Can anyone help me date a Howe Treadle machine?  It has a rather small 
     head, and on the right side of the machine base is a brass(?) 
     medallion, approx. 3" in diameter, with a profile (I imagine of Howe), 
     and around the head is engraved "Elias Howe, Jr., Inventor &Maker, 
     New York, U.S.A.  There are gold curliques in the corners and on the 
     center of the plate is a larger design.  There is verrrry little gold 
     left; I didn't even see it when I first looked.  The treadle reads 
     "The Howe M Co."  There is a plain, square box covering the machine, 
     which does not lower into the cabinet. The top locks onto the cabinet, 
     and I have the key. The cabinet has one drawer on the left side (not 
     left front) of the cabinet.  The two throat plates run the entire 
     width of the machine; the front one is plain, the back one reads 
     427702, then shows patent dates of 9-10-1846, 8-24-1858, and 4-2-1867. 
      I can't find a serial number anywhere, and wonder if the 427702 could 
     be the s/n.  Also, on the back of one of the throat plates, someone 
     has scratched "Mary Mc ____  Smith."  It's not very legible, except 
     for the word "Smith."  Perhaps this was the owner's name.  The entire 
     piece is smaller than most treadles, and even though it's not a pretty 
     machine, it's quite unique.  It came with a manual, but the cover is 
     missing, and none of the pages are dated.  It lists all the parts for 
     the treadle and the machine.  It is very worn and fragile.  The dealer 
     said it was an 1868 machine, but that was only an educated guess.  Is 
     this worth enough to bother with insurance?  Should it be in a museum? 
     I would love to hear some comments from this extremely knowledgeable 
     and interesting group.  My favorite part of the day is reading the FWF 
     Nancy B
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics
Date: Thu, 29 Feb 1996 15:06:00 -0500 (EST)

I recently bought  a Standard Model R treadle machine.  I'm very happy
with the deal--I paid almost nothing for it, and it is complete in
regard to parts;  it has a full set of Griest attachments;  the gold,
green, and red scrollwork is in excellent condition;  and the cabinet
style is both different and attractive.  Unfortunately, though, there
were only small pieces of the manual for the machine--not enough to get
any real information--and no manual for the attachments.

The last patent date on the machine is l9l0.  The patent date on the
attachments is l907.  

This machine needed a lot of cleaning.  It was so grimy that it was
initially hard to tell the condition of the scrollwork.  We cleaned it
with Gojo handcleaner (not abrasive) and it is no looking great, with
scrollwork in excellent condition.  The cabinet needs more work.  There
is paint on it and it is very dried out, so it needs to be refinished.
My husband has agreed to do this--he's both experienced and very good at
wood restoration.

I want to USE this machine.  I can get it going for basic sewing on my
own without a manual, but I would like to know about its additional
features and be able to use the attachments.  

Do any of you have a Griest attachments manual from the 1910s or 1920s
that you are willing to sell or photocopy?  Does anyone have a Standard
Model R sewing machine manual that you would be willing to sell or
photocopy?  I would be happy to pay your costs or make a trade.

I also have an original manual for a Singer 66 treadle.  It's complete,
but not in great condition.  If anyone needs the info it contains, I
would be glad to photocopy it and send you the copy for my cost or

Janet D
Date: Thu, 29 Feb 1996 18:37:14 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Cams

To all who e-mailed me about cams:  No, I have not dropped dead.  I did
have to take a day trip to Chicago earlier this week, and the return
flight through a thunderstorm left me just a little washed out when I got
home late (but still in one piece) Tuesday night.  Wednesday (yesterday)
is my quilt group (what can I say...), but I promise that notices and the
cams will go out this weekend!

Sorry about the delay...

Date: Thu, 29 Feb 1996 17:02:24 -0800

OK, I have it straight about the JONES treadle sewing machine. I went back
and looked at it. It is a treadle/hand crank. It says across the top"JONES,
as supplied to Hermajesty Queen Alexandra.The price is $125.The #'s are
121632, and it also says "Factory Nr Manchester".All parts look good. Is
this a good sewing machine from the past?

Thank You!
Date: Fri, 1 Mar 96 10:10:29 -0500
Subject: New Arrival!!

I'm so excited!!

Just like a new parent I have to brag about my newest addition that just 
arrived.  A TAN FEATHERWEIGHT!!  What a little beauty!  Came with a whole bunch 
of attachements (haven't sat down and gone thru them yet) and a manual (looks 
much newer than the one that came w/ my 1950 FW).  The baby's still really cold 
from her trip (She was in Vancouver yesterday, in Connecticut today, amazingly 
short trip!!), so I'm letting her warm up before we take a spin.  She joins a 
family of 2 black FW's, one pre WWII, one post WWII, and one white FW, and a FW 
table, and a green SewHandy (actually labelled GE made in Bridgeport CT, right 
down the road.  Still had the warrenty card, I've been tempted to send it in)!!  I love them all!!  

Now, I'm not going to say that everyone will have the experiences I have, but 
all my FW's and the SewHandy have come from people I've met over this and 
several other mailing lists.  All the people I have dealt with have been 
wonderful!!  Thank you Nancy  (and Kris and Michele)!!

Okay, now that I've bragged, I'm off to look the new one over.

Sue T
Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 10:58:12 -0500
Subject: Mini auction

Hi Amy,
  I  saw your post in FW aabout mini's in Kville auction.  I'm stunned.
Years ago I lived in Kendallville.  If you have any more info I would love 
to go.  Its really weird.  I live on E North st.  perhaps i'm destined 
to go!!  
  I sure plan to If I can get up early enough.  If I do I promise a full
report!  It's a 3 hour drive from here.  If I can I'll definitly call and
Thank you very much
   I swear my old Elna {60's ? }killed the lady who owned it.  It was in
a cardboard box all beat up marked $3.
  It was an estate sale and they did'nt say how she died.  They did say it
was junk.  It was locked up with a nasty thread  jam, and needed cleaning and 
lubrication. (I did have to remove an elna cleaning brush from the shuttle
area)  Anyway the foot control had no bottom on it with bare wires. 
 In addition, the cord was worn thru in a few places.
  If I had looked at that foot control very carefuly I might have been 
tempted to ask where, how and did she die?
   In any case  I have this picture in my mind.
 Any way, she's got a new life here in my kitchen, and a new foot control.
I got her a brand new case, and she went to a quilting class with me last
 It was so nice,   shes so  much lighter than my old viking. 
 My other "mr Wonderful" said he'd seen an elna lotus that is probably
lighter.  This dear young man told me how to take off the hand wheel and
rough up that ring that drives the machine. Any way I thank you all.  I love
tinkering with these
old sweeties even if I do know very little.  It's $65. for a machine tune up, 
and often all they do is change the needle and thread.
   I hope someday to find an old bernina with a knee lift.  I'd like to machine 
quilt with it. I saw one in lansing yesterday, for $150.  I wasn't sure husband
would approve that tho.  It's a pretty gold color with basic stiches.  I
get sales lady to answer any questions about it.  I hate that.  If I was sure 
it had a book, case and a knee lift I probably would have taken a chance and
bought it.
  The other Lansing dealer has sales people all over the place, but they meet
grahms critera for screwing the last 10@ out of thier machines.
Date: Fri, 01 Mar 96 11:56:10 EST
Subject: Singer 403A and 185K Machines

     Found a 403A, dob 5/29/51, at a garage sale a few weeks ago.  It has 
     cams and a manual, but I'm still waiting for the owner to locate them 
     and call me.  Three weeks later and I'm still waiting.  The machine 
     has the "elevator" throat plate.  Is this the same thing as being able 
     to lower the feed dogs?  This slant-needle machine has three needle 
     positions, drop-in bobbin, and came in a light tan plastic carrying 
     case.  If anyone has a manual and/or additional cams (it had one black 
     zig-zag in the lid of the machine) I would love to hear from them.
     Also purchased from a private party, a 185K with very beautiful gold 
     design and a fancy face plate, dob 5/7/59.  I have not seen any 
     reference to this model machine on FWF.  Does anyone know anything 
     about this model?  
     When I called Singer to get 403a dob, I was told it and my 301a were 
     made on the same day.  SNs are NB947718 and NA374384, respectively.  
     The machines were purchased in the same city, but from different 
     I have learned so much from all the FWFs, and to think it all started 
     with one little black box!
     Nancy B
Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 16:47:31 -0500
Subject: Restoring White Rotary

I bought a White Rotary at our flea market last summer.  I believe that it is
a treadle that was converted to electric.  The motor is a White, but the
controller is Simanco.  It is in an ugly green oilskin (?) covered case which
makes it portable (for weightlifters!).

Included with this machine were two boxes marked "Rotary" full of Greist

Although the machine seems to be in pretty good shape, there is some light
rust on the throatplate, knobs, etc., and also on the Greist attachments.
 What's the best way to clean this off?  Thanks for any suggestions.

(If you think old FW cases smell, you should get a whiff of this baby!)

Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 19:11:19 -0500
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 2/29/96

Hello everyone, 
           Having only been online for the past few months, and being a
quilter I was lucky enough to stumble upon these pages. Never thinking I'd
come across a FW  I could afford, imagine how pleased I was when my aunt
gave me hers. This was the machine I had learned to sew on as a young girl,
but had never thought about much since.It's an AH and was made in 1948 as
far as I know.My problem is now figuring out just what is wrong with it.The
foot was apart and some pieces were missing so I brought it to the only
sewing machine repair shop in my area.They sold me another foot and put my
origional wiring on but I still can't make her hum. The light goes on when
plugged in and I oiled everything and cleaned her up just like the manual
says. I hesitate to bring everything back up to this shop because I'd like
to learn more before I drop it off and just say fix it. I do hear a small
buzzing noise when I wiggle the plug that goes into the machine.I'm
wondering if it just needs new wiring for the foot pedal. Not knowing my
repairman very well I don't want to be taken advantage of for the price of
parts so I'd appreciate any advice anyone has for me. 
               Other than that my FW came with the case and 4 feet,
origional manual and another manual for a 66 was in there too.She shines
real pretty and is in good shape.Now I can't wait to see that great
straight stitch of hers. Someday soon I hope, 
Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 22:01:21 -0500
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 2/28/96

  Hi again, hope you still have auction information.  DH and I want to 
go next weekend.  I'm so excited, I havent been there in 20 years.  It's 
a beautiful little town.  Thank you for posting this notice!!!!
Date: Sat, 2 Mar 1996 00:42:04 -0500
Subject: Howe Treadle &Jones machine

Nancy B: You asked about a Howe Treadle machine.  There is a picture of
the machine you describe and the medallion with Howe's portrait in the book
*Sincere's History of the Sewing Machine* on pages 40 and 41. The caption
with the picture of the machine with the little drawer on the left hand side
(not front)  says "Howe sewing machine, 1870.  Manufactured by Howe
sons-in-law, Stockwell Brothers, New York City."

The Sincere book is available at many libraries.  Graham F of ISMACS
has told us that the Sincere book is not very good about dates and other
things, but it does have pictures of many old machines.

Yvonne J:  Since your name is Jones and you like the machine and it is in
good condition, I'd say go for it.  Perhaps you will have to sell one of your
Singers or put it in storage.  The Jones would be a conversation starter.
 How many people have sewing machines with their own name on them?

Christine T.
Date: Sat, 2 Mar 1996 06:13:17 -0500 (EST)
Subject: More machines

I sometimes think this machine hunt is pure torture. I went to an auction
last night which had advertised a miniature sewing machine with case,
expecting nothing much. The machine was WONDERFUL - a Foley and Williams
Midget in a beautiful oak box with its oil can and other accessories. It's
in my toy sewing machine book and valued at $200-$300. It unfortunately sold
for $160 (not to me) and there were a lot of people bidding on it. Oh, well,
it was wonderful to have seen it anyways, and fortunately a regular person
got it and not a dealer. It seems like most of the purchases at auctions are
made by dealers, not simple little collectors like me that can't afford
their high prices. The search continues tonight with yet another auction -
this one has a "half-size sewing machine with case" advertised. Wonder what
it will turn out to be? The thing about auctions is that there's always the
chance that you might get a great buy - unfortunately for me, that happens
very infrequently! Wish me luck! Sue M.
Date: 02 Mar 96 09:01:08 EST
Subject: Contribution

To Nancy

Your Howe machine was made in 1872. It was produced not by Elias Howe, the
person Americans believe invented the sewing machine, but by a company founded
by his brother Amasa, passed on to his son BP Howe and then was run by two
brothers, the Stockwells until 1886. The date you found on the slide plate is
indeed the sn.
Getting on for a million were made and there is no need for special insurance.
Bear in mind this machine, although sounding pretty old was made a quarter of a
century into sewing machine history.
The comment about Howe in the first paragraph is not a swipe at Americans. At
least four countries have very viable cases to make for the invention of the
sewing machine. None of course rivals the Englishman (grin) Thomas Saint who
patented his machine in 1790 -- over 50 years before Howe.    

To Janet
Sorry don't have a handbook for the Standard -- it's a little late for me . In
fact all I have is a woodcut of the factory and a letter sent from the company's
foreign dept in NYC to the Thimonnier Co in Lyon France detailing its range (in
French). You're welcome to a copy if you wish.

To ay

The Jones machine you mention was made by the Jones SM Co of Guidebridge nr
Manchester. The company supplied one each year to Princess Alexandra who, rumour
has it, passed last year's model on down to a lady in waiting. 
The sn you give is no help at all I'm afraid for when Brother took over the
Jones company they destoyed all the historical records before I could get at
them. If you want to send me a picture I'll be able to date it from that. Please
e-mail me for address.

Best wishes to all 

Graham F , ISMACS, London
Date: 02 Mar 96 09:01:28 EST
Subject: Contribution

To Marilyn R

An apology.  A couple of days back I received what I though was a personal
e-mail from Marilyn asking me about a Spartan machine and refering to my sister.
Thinking that she had mixed up her mail, I replied, pointing out that I didn,t
have a sister etc.
Now to the embarrassing bit. 
The original mail to me was not private e-mail but part of a FWF posting which
had become fragmented and all I got was the one section with Marilyn's details
on the top. I simply hit the reply button when responding but of course my
computer sent the reply to the actual sender, FWF, not Marilyn as I had
intended. Which is why my  reply finished up on this board instead of her
private e-mail. 
My server says that this fragmenting can happen so be sure to check who your
reply is going to. I shall, every time, in future.

Again to Marilyn, my apologies.
Date: Fri, 01 Mar 1996 11:05:08 EST
Subject: Featherweight Case Handles

   If you need a handle for your Featherweight case a possible source might
be your local music store.  We have a music store which sells instruments
to the local high school and they have a guy who repairs the instrument
cases.  He comes in once a week to pick up broken cases and leave the ones
he's repaired.  He didn't have any handles but let me look through his
catalogs and I found some made of leather that are very close to the
originals.  The only problem was that he rarely orders from that company
and their minimum order was $50.00 so I now have 3 extra handles which I
will sell for $12.00 ea. if anyone needs one and can't get it locally.  He
also had latches which work just fine but don't look like the originals.
Date: Sat, 02 Mar 96 10:33:13 -0800
Subject: Singer Featherweights

Jim Slaten of the Singer Dealer Museum has 40 or so Featherweights in 
various conditions for sale.  He also has a rare Featherweight freearm.  
He has published a book called "Antique American Sewing Machine""A Value 
Guide"  He can be found on the WEB at "http:emf.net/~sewing"
Date: Sat, 2 Mar 1996 16:20:20 -0500 (EST)

For Diana

If the attachments have light surface rust only and are not severely
pitted, my suggestion for cleaning up the rust is 0000 (yes, all four
zeros) steel wool.  I've used it with good success.  If you're careful,
you can sort of pull a pad apart and twist it slightly, and you'll get
almost a "thread" of the steel wool which you can work into all sorts of
little crannies on the hemmers.  (I suppose that's why they call it
"wool".)  Anyway, it also leaves a nice sheen on the nickel plating.

If the attachments are very dirty or gummy, you can dip bits of pad in
alcohol or spray with WD-40 to dissolve grime.  Do NOT use alcohol on your
FW body -- I think it's one of the things that can dissolve the gold decals! 

Good luck and happy stitching.

By the way, can someone confirm for me whether or not a "bentwood" case
and a "breadbox" case refer to the same type of case?


Date: Sat, 2 Mar 1996 14:01:48 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 3/1/96

In the latest issue of Ladies Circle Patchwork and Quilting there is an 
article about Gwen Marston and it shows here sewing on her favorite 
sewing machine (according to the caption).  I thought at first glance it 
was a FW but upon closer inspection it was clearly not.  It looks like 
one of the 3/4 head black Singers in a wooden box.
If anyone knows what it is please let me know.  It is nice to know she 
appreciates a quality machine.
Date: Sat, 2 Mar 1996 17:29:28 -0600
Subject: Saturday finds

Ack!  I keep finding Singer collectibles that call my name (and steal my money)!

Today I drove to an antique show at a nearby town, and in the second booth
was a Singer oil can, oval, green and red, probably from the '40s (?)....
for $9.  Amazing. Of course I bought it.  After striking out at the rest of
the show, I wandered through the shops downtown.  Found a machine, not sure
which model, didn't buy it, but it was only $45 and in working order (or so
I was told)... scrollwork on the bed was very worn, and it had a makeshift
wooden base.  There were two others, I think hand-crank, but I didn't look
closely because in an apt. I really don't have room for a machine

HOWEVER, I did find 6 Singer city advertising cards, all about St. Louis.
Got them all for less than $15, which I think is not bad.  Came back to
town, hit the used bookstore, and thought I'd died and gone to heaven.  A
couple of dozen of the Singer countries cards (I only bought 6), 3 city
cards (@ $1 each, I bought all three), and 12-15 Singer songbird cards
(bought the two in the best condition, also $1 each).  Then I thought, what
the heck, and went to the other used bookstore just a block away, and found
"How to Make Dresses the Modern Singer Way" (c. 1927) for $3 and "How to
Make Children's Clothes the Modern Singer Way" (c. 1926) for $4.  Both in
excellent condition.

Someone take away my checkbook, *please*!!!!  I'm poorer, but delighted
with my purchases.  I think I'd better stay home for a month, though......

Lisa, who doesn't want to hear about it if she paid too much for this stuff...
Subject: Pricing a 128?
Date: Sat, 2 Mar 1996 22:06:40 -0500

This is my first post, and I love this list.   I can't believe my first 
question isn't even about a fw (you guys have answered a lot of those 
already!)  Oh, I haven't abandoned my love for  the little black 
beauties.  Actually, discovering this list made me realize my 
fascination with my fw wasn't so odd after all, and got me all fired up 
to start hunting for a second fw for my daughter, and maybe a 301 just 
for fun.  So over the past several weeks I've been checking the ads and 
started visiting auction houses and antique shops (a totally new 
experience for me).  Nothing of interest until a few days ago---- I came 
across a portable (half ton) Singer electric in its dome-top case with 
key and maybe six feet/attachments  (like fw's) in green box.  No 
manual, but a little booklet with pictures of various Singer models.  
According to that booklet, it looks like a 128.  It has lots of  fancy 
gold painting in pretty good condition and the seriously scrolled grape 
faceplate Joyce R. referred to in a post back in Nov.  The shop owner is 
telling me that it is a one-owner machine, belonged to a local lady of 
97 who died a few years ago, kids are still emptying the house.  Anyway, 
I found myself kind of fascinated with this machine, too---I can see how 
you collectors get started.  It is seriously grimy, at least some of the 
electrical cords have been replaced, belt needs to be.  I didn't have 
fabric with me to test it-I would before buying-- but shop owner says it 
works and the handwheel turns smoothly, still has an older spool 
threaded into it.  The tag said $65 but the owner said she'd take $50. 
Now if it were a fw or a 301, it would be home now.  But I have no idea 
what these other models go for.  I'm still not certain I should spend 
even that for a machine I probably won't sew on.  I just had this urge 
to clean it up and take care of it.  Ack!  Can any of you help on the 
pricing, other things I would need to check for?  Buying this one could 
set a dangerous precedent in my quest for a fw or 301.  Any comments 
much appreciated!


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