Featherweight Fanatics Archives

March 1996

Sunday, March 10th - Saturday, March 16th

Date: Sat, 9 Mar 1996 21:16:27 -0800
Subject: Latest finds (attachments)

No, didn't find any "new" FW's but I did find some attachments.  My "baby"
is a AD, and she came without attachments.  Friday I decided to check out
the local mall's antque show.  Did spy two FW the first was at a booth and
the owner of the collectible shop(she's also a quilter), Dorothy had used it
since college and was selling it because she had found another one. (She
wanted $325, it was a AM, case, no attachments, no light(it broke off) lots
of wear on the gold from use )  Anyway we got to talking and she said that
if I came tomarrow she'd have some boxes of attachments that were out in the
truck.  She did not know if they would fit a FW but I could look. So that
night I get on the net, go to Gail P s page and print all the
information I can find on attachments, part # list and everything.  Go back
today, with the list, we go through the parts, this lady Dorothy was as
excited as I was.  Anyway I picked out a seam gauge, adjustable hemmer,
multi slotted binder, edge-sticher, gatherer, ruffler, zipper foot, blind
stitch attachment (in box, with manual), and last but not least a tucker.
Anyway when it came down to the price she said that if I gave her the
printed material I had on attachments she would sell me all these for
$15.00.  I said of course!  Knowing I could get and print the information
any time I wanted and that she wanted it so she could keep her eye out for
more attachments.  Dorothy gave me her card, I gave her my address and we
are going to keep in touch.  I told her all about the FW fanatics and the
internet and before I left she gave me the green Singer box that that some
of the attachments were in, she said that a fanatic had to have one.  So see
what can come from reading this list, sharing the information and getting
out there and looking, couse you'll never know where you'll find you're next
treasure.  Oh the second FW I spyed was a AE, case, attachments in good
shape for $425.  From a very happy Liz, who still has to figure out how to
use all these new attachments for her FW!! 
Date: Sun, 10 Mar 1996 22:35:09 +0800
Subject: Re: Collecting, FWs and Toy machines 

Hi all!
This is my first posting after lurking for a few weeks.

I just love this list, but I do wish we had a larger population here in
Western Australia so that there was a better chance of finding the goodies
that you lucky people in the USA seem to stumble over ALL THE TIME (Frankly
folks, I'm green with envy)

I was referred to this list (Thanks, Wendy and Dawn) after I responded to a
posting on an Australian list about an old Singer in an antique shop in
Canberra. I am now bitten with the collecting bug, though I haven't yet
added to my embryo collection of two: one treadle (1909 - belonged to DH's
grandmother,  NOT in good condition unfortunately) one hand crank (1902 -
bought at swapmeet, works very well and appears in very good nick), both
British made. I would really like to own a FW, but so far no luck.

Saw a Singer Capri portable at swapmeet this morning, but passed, even
though it was very cheap. Weighed a ton and looked to be about a late 60's
model. I seem to remember that Singer did not have a very great reputation
at that time, compared to its earlier models.

What I DID buy (later, at an antique shop) was a toy machine. I think it's
probably from the 30's or earlier. Brand is Peter Pan (Made in Australia so
I just HAD to have it). It's a handcrank chain stitch (yes, it works) and
it's quite skeletal in appearance  with all the works visible, black enamel
and chrome.  It appears to need a clamp to hold it onto a table (missing).
It's really cute and much more attractive than the 50's variety - they had
a couple of them too, one metal, one plastic, but neither appealed.

My question: I threaded it in what seemed a logical fashion until I got to
the needle. Because of the lack of thread guides it seems to need the
needle to be set so it is threaded from L to R, but the needle is presently
set for front to back threading.  It sewed OK at first, a very small
stitch, but started to tangle underneath after a while.  I intend to
experiment, but I thought I might be able to draw on the expertise of this
group as well. Besides, I wanted to brag a bit! I'm really pleased with my

Does anyone have any knowledge of this or similar machines? How is the
needle supposed to be set? Also, how common is it? Being made in Australia,
I would think not very, but was it a copy of an American or British machine
that was produced in the thousands/millions?

TIA for any info,
Joan L
Date: Sun, 10 Mar 1996 09:49:30 -0500
Subject: model 20 box and contents

hi all,
this has now been spoken for -- sorry to those who missed out.  if there is
any change, i will contact those who have already responded and let them
ellen b.
Date: Sun, 10 Mar 1996 08:31:03 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Re: FW Divide and Conquer

	I was amused by the query for excuses to bring home more 
machines. I've had a power surg lately and everything I see I want to 
bring home, even a 66 I found that is a twin to my 66 handcrank. No 
reason why, just it's a twin, they need each other.  The machines take on 
personal attributes. At being alive to me just as the stray cats, dogs, 
skunks and opossums that I have adopted the FW's look so lonely in the 
places that I find them that they begin to call out knowing I will. So my 
most recent "divide and conquer' military tactic has to do with toy 
machines, dolls, and miniature anitque beds. Now this has caused a stir, 
such a stir that those black boxes are harldy noticed anymore. UPS knocks 
on the door lately with a new doll for the display, and the antique beds 
and high chairs have now taken over the downstairs, and now I need a 
pleater for the dolls smocked dresses. So that old fake handoff football 
ploy can be used in the featherweight diversion theory. If you have a 
like minded husband, surely the marriage was made in heaven. And if the 
men on the board are married to women that support there collection, 
indeed a blessing! Now I must ask all, what to do when you find that lone 
machine that surely must be a paperweight, but you know in your heart 
it's a featherweight. Worn to the nines, or should I say tens. I use to 
be able to pass these by without a thought, now they want me to fix them 
up take them to Mark the mechanic for severe troulbe and pass them on, 
for they still are useful and need to be wanted. Are there other's out 
there that get hooked into the fix up syndrome? If there are, I'd sure 
like to hear about it. Zsux
Subject: RE: FW Fanatics 3/7/96 Part 2 of 2
Date: Sun, 10 Mar 1996 12:05:48 -0600

Hello All!  I'm asking the following question for a friend. (Yeah right  LOL!)
I've made now, two dresses for my girls, three pairs of shorts for my boy,
a blouse for myself....all on my little ole featherweight.  Whats next?
Maybe a vest for myself or leotards for the girls (Easter play...)

Someone told me that the part numbers of the parts inside the FW 
had an indication of their year of manufacture on them.  For 
instance a part 45618 would have been manufactured in 1945, and a 
similar part in a different machine with the number 39618 would 
have been manufactured in 1939.  It seems that most of the parts in 
my machine begin with 45xxx, so if this is true, then it would 
aprear that the year of manufacture of most of the parts would be 
1945.  Can you shed some light on this, and/or tell me where to 
find out.

Date: Sun, 10 Mar 1996 15:25:47 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Manuals

Hi All!
      After hearing that the buttonholer cam trading was successful, I thought
I'd ask if anyone was interested in trading manuals. On the database there
are 65 machines that  have the manual's revision date listed. Of these, 24
machines have manuals that I are possibly  incorrect because the dates are at
least 2 years away from the machines BD, or appear to be out of order. I
would think (but then I believe in the Singer bunny too) that if Singer made
so many revisions to their manuals, that they would have been very
concientious about sending the correct manual out with each machine. 
Strange, I just compared two manuals with very close dates and could 
find absolutely no difference. Maybe they just corrected a typo that I 
missed. I would still like for the machines I own to have the manuals with 
the closest revision date to their own BD, and I am hoping that others might 
The different manuals that are on the database are:
 1/34, 3/35, 12/35, 2/48, 10/38, 3/40, 6/41, 9/45, 4/46, 2/47, 9/47, 1/48,
 7/48, 1/50, 7/50,  4/51, 11/51, 7/52, 4/54, 6/55, 8/61, 9/63, 3/64, 9/67,1969
and I am sure there are even more. I don't know, though, which are British
and which are American. Of course, there won't be any British before 1947, or
American after 1957 at least unless we find out differently.
I have to trade (these are NOT for sale): 7/48, 7/50.                
I would like to have:3/35, 12/35, 10/38, 4/46 or 8/61. 
If anyone else would like to trade manuals, let me know even if I don't have
what you need and I will attempt to match people up. 
Happy Featherweighting,
Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 06:24:57 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Treadle machines

I had forgotten about this until I read something similar in a book I'm
reading, but my son was only about 3 or 4 when I got my White treadle
machine and he loved to "help" me sew by operating the treadle for me. He
later progressed on to sewing by himself soon after on my Kenmore - he was
quite good at it and very careful. Only problem is now he's 13 and sewing is
no longer cool - maybe he'll go back to it when he gets older. My 25 year
old daughter can't sew on a button! I also wanted to add a huge vote of
appreciation to Graham for providing us with so much wonderful information.
I'd love to hear more about your books, Graham - I bet they're great, too!
No new machines to report, but as always, I'm still looking. Sue M.
Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 07:30:03 -0500
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 3/9/96

I have a question for you experts out there!  Your answer may "upset" me.
 About 3 years ago when I want on the hunt for a FW (I had the fortune of
finding one with a table for $150 from an antique dealer...long story), I was
at an estate sale where they was a good looking, sort of "chubby" machine,
nice black, in a rounded top case (with a wooden look finish).  Does anyone
understand what I am describing...and will I then get ill knowing that I
SHOULD HAVE bought this little SINGER?  Oh, dear.  Help me, please!!  ;-)
    Thanks in advance.  
Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 08:33:37 -0500
Subject: Re: Fw Fanatics 3/6/96

to Dawn S --
Knee lifts are one of the most wonderful things about a Bernina.  The knee
lever lifts the pressure foot, so you don't have to take you hands off the
fabric.  It saves steps/time when turning corners and such.  I do most of my
sewing on industrial machines, all of which have knee lifts.  I find when I
go to work on my Touch and Sew, also known as my button hole machine ; )  I
miss the knee lever!!  I sometimes have a bruse on my right knee from trying
to use the lift that isn't there!!  Try it for a week, don't use your hand to
raise the pressure foot.  I'm sure you will grow to love this advantage to
Bernina sewing!!
Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 10:03:01 -0500

I have the dates for BRIMFIELD for 1996:  
May 16,17,18
July 11,12,13
Sept 5,6,7

Address is Route 20, POBox 416, Brimfield, MA 01010.

I found a great instruction manual for the HUSQVARNA SYMASKINER, 1907
copyright.  Can anyone help as to what language this is?  Address is:
Jonkoping.  One of the Scandanavian countries?  It is for sale for $10.

Also a1895 Montgomery Ward &CO  unabridged facsimile catalog	8 X 11, 625
pages.  Of special interest: 5 full pages of ads for Singer and Montgomery
Ward sewing machines, parts. $20			
My collection of Mary Brooks Picken books is as follows.  Each is $30.
H4 Singer Sewing Book	1961.  By Mary Brooks Picken. 8X11. 260 pages.
Condition excellent. Hardcover; loose-leaf.	
H5 The Mary Brooks Picken Method of Modern Dressmaking	1925.  By Mary Brooks
Picken, Dressmaking Editor, Pictorial Review Company. 8X11. 96 pages. Many
sketches and photos. Condition very good; cover shows some wear. Hardcover;

H11 Singer Sewing Book	1959 copyright of 1949 book.  By Mary Brooks Picken.
8X11. 260 pages. Condition very good. Hardcover; bound.			

H12 Sewing for the Home 1946 copyright/1958 printing.  By Mary Brooks
Picken. 8X11. 212 pages. Many sketches and photos. Condition very good.
Hardcover; bound.			

Thanks.  Millie 
Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 16:53:36 +1100
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 3/9/96

 I am posting this to the group because I have found Grahams answers really
interesting even if they are to specific people,. on 3/9/96 you asked for
clarification as to definition of bobbin. The one I am talking about is a
circular self contained drop in bobbin similar to todays machines.Not a shuttle.
 I will certainly snail mail a photocopy of the instructions  for my toy
machine and also send a picture of my IF 1888 machine in the hope you may be
able to help.
 Thanks you for the tips for shopping whilst in the states will certainly
get to a few.Ann-Maree 
Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 11:41:54 -0500
Subject: My new Featherweight

Just wanted to let every one know that I am now a proud owner of a
Featherweight.  She arrived last Friday.  This was made possible through the
help of Kris at Hickory Hill Antique Quilts.  Thanks for your help.  My new
FW is an AF born in 1940.  She is in excellent condition.  My only complaint
is the smell of her case.  She arrived in sunny dry Arizona from New York
where I assumed she lived most of her life.  I am looking forward to our 110
degree plus weather to dry the case out.  Today it is ONLY 75 and sunny.
 Love all the information I have received through FWFanatics
Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 13:49:41 -0500
Subject: Spartan Purchased

Hello fellow fans,
I must be getting senile!!!! I picked up a Singer Spartan machine over the
weekend #ES 189144 - says made in Great Britain on it.  For some reason, I
was convinced that this was the machine mentioned in Nancy Johnson-Srebro
book as the forerunner of the featherweight.  Went home and looked it up
and discovered that it was the "Sewhandy" that was made first.  Now I am
stumped.  What exactly is this Spartan machine and was it made before or
after the featherweight?  Naturally, I have not kept my digests of FWF - so
have no idea what I have here.  Got it all cleaned up and it is kind of
spiffy.  Any help or info would be appreaciated.
PS just called Singer and they looked up the serial number and told me it
is a 99 K made 11/24/60 - I told her no way - it says spartan right on it.
She said that's what the blue book lists for that serial number - seriously
makes me doubt the dates they give out.  She told me also that Spartan are
3/4 heads made in England from 1950-1959 model #192 K.
Date: Tue, 05 Mar 1996 02:07:48 -0800
Subject: New Willard Sewing Machine

Hi,  My brother-in-law found a New Willard sewing machine in upstate 
Minnesota and gave it to me for Christmas.  It has a plate on the back 
that says it was made by the Domestic Sewing Machine Company in Cleveland 
Ohio.  It has a bullet shaped bobbin so I know it has to be early 1800s? 
I am missing the throat plate tho, any ideas on where I can get one?  I 
also have my great grandmothers Elias Howe treadle, I realize he's not 
too popular around here VBG  I would really like to restore it.  I have a 
belt for it but am missing bobbins, etc.  Any ideas of where to find 
these would be appreciated!  Debbie
Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 16:46:16 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Sewing Machine Lecture

Just received a brochure called "Footsteps through the Seams of Time...A 
Journey Down Sewing Machine Lane."  The lecturer is Jo An Overton from 
Ronkonkoma, NY.  Has anyone heard her lecture and is she good?  I'm 
hoping my guild can hire her to speak sometime soon, but hate to 
recommend someone I've never heard before.  Her fees are $250 plus 
transportation, room, meals, etc.  Please e-mail me privately and I can 
respond to the whole list.

Here's the description from the brochure:  "Joanne takes you back in time
with her slide show lecture about her collection of over 100 antique
sewing machines that date back to the 1860's.  Her love and knowledge for
sewing machines and sewing are transferred to you as she uses the old time
charm of storytelling.  JoAnn explains the history and how her quest for
each machine unfolded. 

Her lecture covers many facets from the beginning of the invention to how
she would suggest improvements to present high tech machines.  She is very
kowledgeable about how machines work and she has even enjoyed sewing on
some of the machines in her precious collection.  You receive a clearer
insight on the sewing conditions which our great-grandmothers experienced. 
JoAnn and her husband, Conrad, have virtually transformed their home into
a museum and workshop dedicated to restoring and admiring the sewing
machine.  You receive a clear view of this collection as each slide is
projected for your enjoyment. 

If you have never had an interest in sewing and the sewing machine before
you hear JoAnn's lecture, you will be surprised that as you walk out of
the lecture hall you will have the urge to hit the first antique shop in

Barb T
Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 12:47:49 -0900
Subject: FW maintenance class

Does anyone know of any upcoming featherweight maintenance classes on the
West coast in the near future?

Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 21:04:22 -0500
Subject: featherweight machines

Wanted  to  buy: Singer Featherweeight machine in good working condition.
 Reasonable price.  Send info
Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 21:39:21 -0500
Subject: I finally did it!

Hi Everyone,

Last night I finally got out all those nifty little attachments I have been
collecting and tried them all out! These are wonderful little gadgets! They
are engineering marvels just like the machines themselves. I never could
understand someone taking all the time to make ruffles, tiny rolled hems, pin
tucks etc. on little girls dresses but now I know, they had these
attachments. I may even make something frilly for my little girls. If you
haven't yet tried these out, do so. You will have a great time. Now if
someone could help me figure out how to finish the end when attaching bias
tape with the multislotted binder, I would appreciate it. 

Have a great day! Katy 
Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 23:06:11 -0500
Subject: Singer findings

   Greetings all.  The weather is finally straightening out, I
think Spring is really just around the corner.
   I had the opportunity to do some antiquing and browsing 2nd hand stores
and picked up a few things that may be of interest to some.
   I have  a beautiful Singer model 101. Diana is an Oct. 27, 1931 babe with
the un-numbered tension dial and the stitch length dial on the bed.  She is
in georgous condition.  She looks so sleek, kinda like Diana Ross in the 60s.
 She is ever so quiet when she sews.  On Graham's rating scale, she deserves
an 8 almost 9.   She is a cabinet model, hence no box or foot control. I'm
asking $75 plus shipping.
   I have 2  Singer Sewing books by Mary Pickens for sale.  The copyright
dates are 1949 and 1954.  I'm asking $15 for each postage included.
   I also found in like new condition a Singer Zig Zag attachment, part no.
160620.  It is in the original box with original manual and extra edger piece
that attaches to the main attachment itself.  $25 includes postage.
   Lastly for sale is an original model 66 manual.  This is in excellent
condition.  Copyright date is 1924. I can read the pictures,  they show a
treadle.   But the printing is another matter,  this manual is written in
German.  If interested...$15.
   For the freebie bin of buttonhole attachments, I have the following
templates for the asking:  5/16, 5/8 straight, and 1 1/16 keyhole.  I would
like to trade of find the following: 15/16 straight, 5/8 keyhole, 1/2
straight, and 3/8 straight.  I have and empty template box I either fill or
sell empty.
   Until later.  Jacque
Date: Sun, 10 Mar 1996 17:41:04 -0500
Subject: 50's Machine, etc.

Saturday I went to my first auction in years.  There was a Singer treadle
(would 122 be right?) with its manual.  I couldn't tell if it worked.  The SN
started with B which dated it around 1905.

There was another Singer with the centennial medallion, black with decorative
decals, and "Made in Canada" featured prominently on its light.  (The light
was positioned like a FWs.)  It was in a very 50's-looking blond cabinet.
 Does anyone have a guess on what model this may have been?  It sure was in
beautiful condition.

I couldn't stay until these were sold, so I don't know how much they brought.

Date: 12 Mar 96 11:21:00 EST
Subject: Gaileee's next project

To Gaileee,
I think your next project really must be a quilt.  The FW
is much beloved of quilters, highly  sought after, and mine
just cries out for a new quilt once I move into the room
next door where the quilting frame is.  I can hear her over
there sniffling over when I'm going to finish my current
quilt and make another top.  She doesn't understand why it
takes me so long to hand quilt when she can zip up a top in
record time.  ;-)
Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 20:23:55 -0800
Subject: manual

Free to a good home:

A manual to a 15-91. It was in a box of assorted "stuff" I found while 

First one to e-mail me may have this. ;-)

Lisa R
Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 21:46:33 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Manuals plus

         Hi Folks,I'm looking for a manual or a copy of one for a 1919 
Mdl.66.Ialso would like to hear from anyone belonging to the Pfaff Club I sent 
in a membership fee and have not heard from them.Are they still active.They 
seemed like an interesting group.Thanks.                                                                                
Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 04:33:51 GMT
Subject: New Sewing Catalog

I have just uploaded a New Sewing Catalog in two parts on my Web Page.  Feel
free to browse through these listings at http://www.tiac.net/users/needlewk.
Some time next week I'll put a listing of sewing machine manuals.

Bette F  of Hard-to-Find Needlework Books
Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 08:42:16 -0500
Subject: FW at Auction in Indiana

Hi again all.  Can you tell I scour auction listings?  There's a "nice
Singer Featherweight" that will be at an auction in Logansport, IN (24
miles NW of Kokomo).  The auction is on Sat., March 16 at 10 am at the
National Guard Armory, 912 S. Cicott St., Logansport.  Email me if you'd
like additional info on the sale (egads, I see that they're selling the
owner's diaries too...).

Happy hunting!
Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 08:16:53 -0600 (CST)
Subject: Tan FW

Just receive my tan FW from Dale P . It really is a beauty. Thanks
Dale. It's birthday is 8-16-61 Scotland.  If anyone out there has a manual
for one, I would appreciate if you could send me an e-mail, I would like
very much have a copy made of one.    Sheila
Date: 13 Mar 1996 08:34:08 GMT
Subject: Husqvarna

     To Millie: Husqvarna is Swedish.  They are a manufacturer of
     motorcycles, chain saws, and other such outdoor equipment.  I think
     they might also be affiliated with the Viking sewing machine company.
Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 09:06:46 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 3/9/96

Hi all,

To Graham,  I have a Singer treadle machine I am trying to date.  The 
serial number is K335384.  The list that have been posted have seemed to 
skip the model number.  Maybe is doesn't have one.

To everyone:

I have a very old Singer buttonholer #121795 if anyone is interested in 
purchasing it.  It has no manual and no cams.  This seems to be an 
adjustable buttonholer.  The first person willing to put out $20 plus 
postage gets it.  The box states "for Singer Lockstitch Family Sewing 
Machines.  The box has seen better days. (cardboard)

I also ran across a Singer automatic zigzagger for the model 30l.  It has 
the instruction booklet and 4 cams.  It looks brand new.  This will go 
for $25 plus postage.

These attachments are not being sold for profit--I just love looking for 
Singer attachments.  I am always surprised at what I find.  If anyone 
thinks I am paying too much for these things, would you please let me know.

Have a nice day,

Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 13:08:27 -0500

that you have a manual 15-91.  Would love to have it.
 I just bought my daughter a G3451882 which Singer told me would use manual
15-91.  I love getting the newsletter each day although I don't collect
featherweights, rather I have 2 treadles.I hope I hear from you. 
Date: 13 Mar 96 12:55:14 EST
Subject: Contribution

Shelley and all

Ref Singer telling you that the Spartan was produced in the UK and designated
the 192 K.

Someone is very wrong here, either Singer UK or USA for my Singer-produced
product guide for dealers says that no 192 machines (whatever they were) were
produced over here.Certainly this book is not graven in stone for it has some
missing data on SNs but it does appear to list every model made/and/or sold here
from 1865 (12K) to 1981 (2010A)


The Domestic SM Co started in Norwalk Ohio in 1869 and without more information
I can't pin down a date. If you want to send me a photo I'll get withing a few
Bullet-shaped bobbins were used well into this century and are not really an
accurate way of dating mcahines.

You will get a belt for the Howe at any industrial sewing machine outlet -- take
along a piece of string cut to length and say you want 3/16 inch round belting.
Again not sure what you mean by bobbin in this case. Do you have the shuttle and
are simply missing the bobbin that lives inside, in which case I can make one
for you.
Subject: Center Drawer WANTED
Date: Sun, 10 Mar 1996 10:56:36 -0800

  I am looking for a center drawer to a Singer 7 drawer embossed cabinet 
for my almost 100 year old treadle.  The Cabinet style is #5188 in a 
medium wood tone--either oak or maple.  Any info on how to go about 
obtaining one would really make my day.

Date: Sun, 10 Mar 1996 15:34:50 -0500 (EST)
Subject: This and that

Hi All!
     I saw a gorgeous ceramic Singer sign at an auction two weeks ago, but
unfortunately the bidding started much higher than I was willing to go. It
ended up selling for about $800. Oh, well, it would have looked silly in the
sewing room anyway because it mounted so that it would come straight out from
the wall. I would just have been walking into it all the time.
     There were a few glitches in the beginning, but I think the survey on
Sue's FW page is working great. If you haven't received a confirmation from
me then either I didn't receive the survey, or you filled it out before there
was a space for putting in your e-mail address, and I didn't know who to
respond to. Please let me know if you want me to make sure I received yours.
    I had a weird conversation with someone the other day. They were under
the impression that I wouldn't let anyone else have any of the survey
information, or else I wanted to *sell* it! It took me a few days to cool
down after that. Just to set the record straight: The survey belongs to
FWFanatics, I am the temporary "keeper" of the information gathered, just
like any other FAQ. I hope that someday (no time soon!) if I am unable to
continue holding the database, that another FWFanatic would be willing to
takeover. The reasons I would rather not send out the entire spreadsheet are
because: 1.) It is in a format that doesn't always convert very well to most
of the standard formats (like Excel), 2.) I have information on it that I
will not give out, names and e-mail addresses and personal info, which means
more work each time I send it out to eliminate these fields, 3.) Looking at
it as a spreadsheet, it just looks like a jumble of codes, it needs to be
evaluated to be appreciated, 4) I feel that I have already posted any
interesting information that the database holds. Of course, as more surveys
come in, and any new information is discovered, I will continue posting
updates to the group. And if anyone wants specific information, please, just
let me know. If anyone feels I am wrong in my view of the matter, please let
me know, or we can have the group discuss this. This is not written in stone,
but I have put a lot of time and energy into starting and maintaining this
database and I have just tried to make decisions that will keep my workload
to a minimum while keeping the group as informed as possible of the results. 
     I have had a few inquiries recently about the tables that are on the
database. Unfortunately, I haven't received many completed surveys of them. 
    This is what I have on the tables:
There are a total of 15 tables on the database.
14 are #312 card tables.
1 is a mable cabinet. (No serial number)
10 of the cardtables have metal legs (earlier?) and 4 have wooden legs
One purchased new in 1949 cost $27.50.
All serial numbers on metal legged tables begin with the letter "T" and then
six digits, except one begins with an "A".
The serial numbers on the wooden legged tables begin with "C", "EE" and "O".
The average price paid on the cardtables (this was not a question on the
survey, so I don't know what everyone paid) was $188. $200 seems to be a
reasonable price to me to pay for one.
     One question I have been asked about the tables is: where are they found?
The owners live in CA, IA, IL, MD, MT, OH and TX. Personally, I have
never seen one at a garage sale or antique shop, only through dealers. I have
heard stories that when you are at flea markets you should look at the tables
that merchandise is sitting on, and you might get lucky. Maybe those of you
with tables can tell us how you found them. 

Happy Featherweighting,
Date:        Wed, 13 Mar 1996 15:44:42 CST
Subject: Found a treadle!!!

Hello everyone.
Thanks to this list, I've become more aware of lots of older machines
and have been looking for a treadle machine.  I saw a beauty at an
auction last fall, but I wasn't sure I "needed" one and DH was not happy
about yet another piece of furniture, so I dropped out of the bidding.
I was sorry and have since been haunting auctions and antique stores for
a nice looking machine in good working order.  This weekend was our
local antique show and when I spotted a familiar looking cabinet, I
abandoned DH and zoomed over.  Sure enough--it was a treadle.  The
machine turns out to be a Singer 127 made on Deb 8, l925, or so Singer
says.  The head is in very nice condition. No rust.  The decals are gold
egyptian style ones and they are intact except at the middle of the head
(where it is held to be lifted down or up).  The metal end plate
and this circular piece at the back of the machine are decorated in an
embossed grape leaf and vine pattern.  The cabinet isn't one of the kind
with drawers. Rather the front of the cabinet opens up and there is an
open drawer for stuff with another drawer that locks underneath.  A full
set of attachments (no rust) was in the tray in that drawer along with a
brand new looking manual. It also came with a an attachment made in
japan to do a zigzag stitch, another for a blindhem stitch (both in the
original containers with manuals).  Something called "singercraft" was
also in the cabinet.  It is in the original box and appears to be
something to use with the machine when making chenille articles. ?!?
The treadle action on the machine is very smooth.  As soon as there is
space in the living room (I am in the middle of my first--and last-
annnual fabric reogranization project) I'm going to load some bobbins
and let 'er rip.  Does anyone else have one of these?  I saw two similar
heads this weekend, but they were four-drawer oak cabinets.  Mine looks
to be a solid walnut cabinet.  I think I got a good deal at $95.  I've
never sewn with a treadle before. Any helpful hints?  Michele
Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 16:54:04 -0500
Subject: sm needles

Anybody know where I could find needles for a Bartlett rotary sewing
machine?  Any help/leads appreciated.   Thanks.  Susan Jane
Date: Sun, 10 Mar 1996 16:52:44 -0500 (EST)
Subject: For Sale

Hi All,
	My DH made me feel guilty about all the money we have tied up 
in the machines that he says I am "hoarding" (This from a guy who 
presently has 4 '68 Camaros) so I offered all "extra" machines to our 
small quilt group. What a stupid thing to do! It was a stampede! Now that 
the dust has died down, I am letting go of the following machines:

EP543866 Freearm - Red "S" medallion. Original manual. Most feet 
including original darning hoop and darning foot. Minor wear on gold. Exc. 
case. BD 9/22/59.  $1500.

ER317143 Freearm - Red "S" medallion. Original manual. Some wear on gold. 
Most feet. Ex. case. $1350 OBO.

EM961079 Freearm - Black band medallion. Photocopied manual. Some wear on 
gold and black. Missing two screws. No feet/accessories. Ex. case. BD 
probably 11/15/57. $1200 OBO.

ES874178 Tan 221J - Red "S" medallion. Has minor paint missing at front and 
faceplate. Box is poor. Xeroxed manual. BD 8/19/61. $300.

Set of Greist attachments for low shank. Includes attaching piece. In box 
marked Morse. Will fit FW. $15.

Greist blind stitch hemmer #3. Includes instructions. For machine that 
uses collar to attach foot. $10.

Folding wooden box with most (?) feet. Don't know what machine they fit. 
Very good condition. $35.

Singer buttonholer #160506. Fits Featherweight. Uses cams. In green 
plastic box. Original instructions. $29.

Singer advertising cards. 1922 version of 1898 American Singer (bird) 
series. #3,4,5,5,5,9,11,15,16. $3 each or will trade for your extras.

All prices include postage.

Happy Featherweighting,
Date: Sun, 10 Mar 1996 16:41:23 -0500 (EST)
Subject: More Attachments

Hi All,

Well, not the best day I've ever had. I was planning to attend the next
session of the antique show I went to in January.  When I got to the
place, I found an empty parking lot and a small sign on the door:  today's
show and all remaining shows have been cancelled.  I'm guessing the
promoter went belly-up or something.  So I checked out a couple of shops
on High Street here in Columbus.  I did find what I think is a model 66-4
treadle for $129, but her price for this machine is too high.  Needs a
belt, an new throat plate, and some woodwork.  I did acquire one of the
Griest attachment boxes: "Attachments" on the front in gold, marbelized
purple paper within, with labeled holders for each attachment.  The box is
missing the binder, ruffler, and 6/8 hemmer (but it had TWO 3/8" hemmers
-- this must be the cousin of the woman who had three zipper feet).  Based
on the illustrations on the Griest buttonholer box that I use for reference,
I'd say these are top-clamping type #3.  I measured the depth of the
prongs: just a hair over 1/4".  On another group of top-clamping
attachments that I have, the prongs are clearly 3/8" deep.  I also suspect
these attachments were owned by someone with a shuttle type machine,
because also in the box are maybe an edge stitcher and maybe a cording-type
thing where the business part of the "attachment" is a permanent part of
what looks like a front slide plate.  Anyone ever seen anything like this?

Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 17:42:42 -0500
Subject: Buttonholers For Sale

Hi All,

I picked up a few buttonholers if any one needs one.

#160506 Singer Buttonholer in green plastic box, complete with feed cover and
5 templates. This will fit a FW. Copy of manual. $27

#160743 Singer Buttonholer in maroon plastic box. All as above except this is
for slant needle madhines like the 301. Original manual. $30

Prices do not include shipping. E-mail if interested. Thanks, Katy
Date: 10 Mar 96 17:27:58 EST
Subject: Contribution

To Barbara

Your Minnesota could have been produced by the Davis, the New Home or the
Standard Companies. All produced models under that name brand in the early years
of this century.

To Linda

Singer maintained a japanning dept at each factory. The colour coat -- always
black on early machines as colour japanning or stove enameling wasn't possible
back then -- was baked on. Then the decals and finally a  shellac-based
protective varnish.

More interesting was the system used with mother-or-pearl decoration.
The first black coat was put on and then half baked until it was simply tacky.
Then the thin layers of m-o-p were pushed into the soft paint and the whole
thing covered in black which was then baked hard.The next process was to rub
down the machine with very fine abrasive until the m-o-p showed through.

To all

I posted a list of books on sewing macdhine collecting a few days back but I
guess it was too long to make FWF. If anyone wants a copy e-mail me

Graham F
Date: Sun, 10 Mar 1996 15:51:31 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 3/9/96

Hi all,

To Graham,  I have a Singer treadle machine I am trying to date.  The 
serial number is K335384.  The list that have been posted have seemed to 
skip the model number.  Maybe is doesn't have one.

To everyone:

I have a very old Singer buttonholer #121795 if anyone is interested in 
purchasing it.  It has no manual and no cams.  This seems to be an 
adjustable buttonholer.  The first person willing to put out $20 plus 
postage gets it.  The box states "for Singer Lockstitch Family Sewing 
Machines.  The box has seen better days. (cardboard)

I also ran across a Singer automatic zigzagger for the model 30l.  It has 
the instruction booklet and 4 cams.  It looks brand new.  This will go 
for $25 plus postage.

These attachments are not being sold for profit--I just love looking for 
Singer attachments.  I am always surprised at what I find.  If anyone 
thinks I am paying too much for these things, would you please let me know.

Have a nice day,

Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 20:54:34 EST
Subject: Betsy Ross?

Well, my dh just got me my first toy machine, for my birthday.  It's 
a Betsy Ross, model # 707E.  It has a little red (fake alligator 
type) case, and works.  However, there is no manual or any other info 
with it.  Can someone tell me it's approximate age, value (he paid 
$75 for it), or anything else about it?  I almost got in trouble when 
I felt the box he had it wrapped in and commented that it was too 
small to be a fw!!  I think he is trying to get me hooked on toy 
machines so I will quilt dragging home big machines, ggg.  Also, when 
I got my latest fw, there was a Singer seam ripper in the case, clear 
plastic, stamped made in Germany.  Any info on these?   I'm going to 
preview an auction on Friday, I'll let you know if I find anything 
wonderful.  Thanks in advance for any information!!  
Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 21:12:33 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Information

Hi Folks,I do need help in the digest i belive March 13 someone wrote in about a 
woman who lectured on sewing machines.All of my information was lost could 
someone please forward it to me.Thanks,Larry
Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 19:05:46 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 3/10/96

I have been trying to post this letter for 3 days but for some reason, it 
has not shown up on the FWF page.  I am going to try again.

To Graham:

You are such a wealth of information that I would like to ask you if you 
could tell me the model of my treadle machine.  The number on it is 
K335384.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.

I have been to some antique mall lately and I have picked up some 
attachments for old Singers.  If anyone is interested, I have a zigzagger 
for the 30l.  It looks brand new.  The manual for for cams are in the 
box. The box has a few bald spots etc.  (from being stored I think), but 
otherwise the zigzagger is new.  If anyone wants it, it was $20 and I 
only need to add postage.

I also found a very old buttonholer.  The bottonholer does not use 
cams--it is very unusual.  There are no instructions with it and the box 
is in pretty bad shape.  The part number is 121795 "for Singer Lock 
Stitch Family Sewing Machines".  I paid $25 and will have to add postage.

If anyone is interested, e-mail me 
Subject: center drawer WANTED
Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 20:58:49 -0800

  I am looking for a center drawer to a Singer 7 drawer embossed cabinet =
for my almost 100 year old treadle.  The Cabinet style is #5188 in a =
medium wood tone--either oak or maple.  Any info on how to go about =
obtaining one would really make my day.

Subject: Ruby Treadle
Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 20:59:51 -0800

>>>Anybody out there ever hear of a Ruby Treadle machine.  It's what I 
purchased (cheap) about 5 years ago.  No one I know has any history on 

Hi, I found a little info on your Ruby Treadle--it was made by the New 
Home Sewing Company in Orange, MA approxiamate dates of manufacturing 
was between 1877 and 1882.

Info as gleened from the book Antique American Sewing Machines, A Value 
guide by John W. Slaten

Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 23:47:42 -0500
Subject: My New  Treasures

Hi Folks,

My collection is growing! I recently picked up two more 301s, one black and
one tan. The Black one is rough  and the tan one is quite nice. Kolleen, do
you remember when I thought these were ugly? Boy, was I dumb! 

 Next, I bought a 201 from a guy on AOL for $25. She is a veteran and needed
lots of TLC but my son said if we got  that first 301 running, we could do
the same for this one. She is now named Bess and is  my current favorite to
piece on. She is a tirelesss worker and the quietest machine I own. She has a
few chips and her paint is not quite as shiny as it once was but I love her

A mere week after brining these three home, number eight entered my life via
the bargain ads. Another 99k in a lovely cherry Shaker style cabinet. She is
my oldest with a birthdate of  July 25, 1949. She too is a veteran but her
bed is shiny and her gold is near perfect except for the place on the arm
where some nitwit placed a piece of wool for pins, grrrrr. She is my first
machine with a fancy faceplate. I didn't really want or need another 99 but
she looked so sad and neglected sitting on that ladies back porch. I could
almost hear her whisper, "Take me home". 

I don't have number 9 yet but I know where she is. I saw her today at Mr.
Wonderful's. I will go back for her when I have the $. She is a lovely model
15 minus the cabinet like my 201. I will have my DH build  nice wooden bases
to set them in since I can't have any more cabinets or we will be eating off
them instead of the table.

I am still without a FW but am content. If I had found one right away, I
would have missed the joy that all these  other beauties have brought me.
Even if you already have a FW, give these other models a second look, They
are deserving. Thanks for letting me ramble. Katy
Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 08:41:28 -0500
Subject: Info about new FW table

Dear Leslie, Becky, Barbara and everybody - This address for the reproduction
FeatherWeight Table was originally posted to this List by someone else but I
have no record of who it was.  I do not know this man either but he does
beautiful work.  The table is like a very sturdy wooden card-table with
folding legs, black trim and a birch surface.  There is a neat cut-out that
clips in place for a flat smooth table, or lifts out so your FW fits right
down in flush with the table top and sits on a little dropped platform inside
the hole.  The whole thing is really nicely made and those of us who
appreciate crafts(wo)manship will be very pleased.  When the FW is in place
and sewing the whole table is steady as a rock - this is a piece of furniture
- but when folded up I can easily lift it.   Needless to say I am thrilled.
 Other people on this List have had some luck finding the original tables for
anywhere from $35 to $200.  I never find anything!  These tables are made by 
Andy Fields, 742 Shawnee Road, Pomona, Kansas  66076
(913) 566-3788.  (No CCs, this is your original Mom &Pop operation) There is
a short waiting list - about one month.  I paid $198 plus shipping and worth
every penny to me!  No affiliation, blahblahblah, happy customer etc
Date: 11 Mar 96 15:54:31 EST
Subject: Contributions

To Joan 

Your Peter Pan is a direct copy of the Singer Model 20 advertised by the Singer
company in the run up to Christmas as a toy and as a portable machine for the
rest of the year. It was made from 1910 to the 40s 
To thread, and I paraphrase the handbook, with the needle bar at its highest
point  pass the thread from the spool towards you through the holes in the two
levers. Then take it under the top plate on the cross arm, around the tension
and upwards through the hole to the right of the needle bar. Then through the
top of the needle bar, right to left, and down to the needle threading left to
right. The needle hole should run left to right. Snagging on these machines is
usually due to surface rust or dirt on the hook under the stitch plate.
I would guess there were a few thousand made. Two are coming over from Australia
to our ISMACS auction next month.

Graham F
Date: Thu, 14 Mar 96 15:44 CST
Subject: reasonable price for 99k

   Could/would of of you fanatics please tell me what is a reasonable price 
to pay for a 99k in good condition.  Manual with it indicates 99-31; serial
# EL901582.  I thank anyone or all of you for your help.  Pete.
Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 09:31:23 -0600
Subject:  Singer Model 27

I've been lurking for some time, another quilter who has been caught by
the "gotta get a FW" bug.  In the meantime, I've enlisted my husband in the
hunt, as he often gets to garage and estate sales and auctions.

Yesterday, in between my racing around at work with meetings, he
called to say he was at an auction that had an "old black Singer" for sale.
 From the 30 or so seconds I had to talk to him about it, I determined that it
was NOT a FW, but really had no idea what it was.  Trying to get off the
phone and make a deadline, I foolishly made the comment "Well, if you
can get it for less than $5.00, go ahead and let's see what it is."

Needless to say, he did get it for less than $5.00.  It turns out to be a
Model 27, DOB 6/10/1901, serial # L880857.  It seems pretty intact, has a
long funny looking shuttle or bobbin case (at least that space isn't
empty!), a needle, a single presser foot, and is in a wooden (fabric
covered) case.  It does not have a belt, and the only electric is a rear
mounted light bulb (which works).

I wish I had Graham's wonderful 1-10 rating scale handy.  Does anybody
remember what date that was routed?  (I've kept the old listings.)  

The condition isn't terrific- all the the incredible Eqyptian decals are there,
only a little worn on the sewing area, but a fair number of pin scratches

I'm not starting to be a collector- at this point in my life I have neither 
time, space, or money.  Besides, my mother is custodian of my grandmother's
#9 or 10 condition old Singer sewing machines, and these will come to
me someday.  Is anyone interested in this machine?  I honestly don't
know if it has any real value, or only to someone who may wish to
cannibalize it for parts.  While I am no expert, all the parts seem intact,
not gummied significantly or rusted, all move and seem to do what they
are supposed too.  I'd love advice from those of you who are wiser and
more experienced in this area.

Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 17:48:52 -0500
Subject: FWFanatics

I am going to a tag sale tomorrow and thought of Henrietta when I read the ad:
'Contents of old general store in business since 1900, old advertising
items, also new grocery items, Bring flashlight.'  I don't really expect
sewing machine things, but sounds like fun anyway!

Today's venture yielded a Singer buttonholer #160506 with 8 cams, cover
plate, original manual. Email me if interested in purchasing. 

Anyone looking for books, I have the list from a woman.  On hand she has the
!)  Toys &Miniature Sewing Machines - Thomas.  1995 values. PB 353 pages.
100's color photos. Complete descriptions.  sizes, helps &hints, ads,
museums, parts, condition chart, musical machines, misc, minis + Much More.

2)  Oldtimer sewing machine - Landgrat HB 192 pages. NP, 100's photos.  much
info. dates, includes accessories. $49.00

She also has another one which we have been warned not to read, so I am not
taking any chances with the good people of FWF by even mentioning its name!

The Miller's Daughter Reference Books
Grace Miller Dickinson
Haydenville, MA 01039
phone 413-665-4464

 Thanks.  Millie
Date: Thu, 14 Mar 96 21:33:29 -0800
Subject: Singer Bottle

I have a clear bottle with a cork top marked "Singer Machine Co."  It is 
about 4.75" high and has the trade mark and emblem embedded in the glass. 
Would like to know what it was used for, how old it is and if it has any 
value.  Thanks for helping
Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 19:11:11 -0700
Subject: No place like home

Hello everyone,

Having just returned home from the hospital (where all the nurses wore
Hoffmann scrubbies) after a double bypass and finding that I am too tired
to read all the messages waiting for me, I have opted to send a small
message to all of you to bear with me until I am able to catch up (a few
messages at a time over the next few month. For all of you, thanks for
hanging with me. Your friendship and patience and good thoughts mean a lot
to me.

David &Jenny, my room smelled so sweet that I had total strangers dropping
if for a whif. Mom loves you.

Ozz, Celeste &Addy, you are so special. I will write much more later

Time for a bite of soup and a long nap.

Date: Fri, 15 Mar 1996 04:02:12 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 3/12/96

Hello, all you fw fans! I have another Singer who has joined my family. It's
called a Singer Stylist and says zigzag model 413, serial #JE944465, made in
Canada with Great Britain and Canadian parts. It's light green and probably
from the late 60's, early 70's. I know, not anywhere near an antique, but I
think it's just fascinating to see the changes made by Singer through the
years. This one is mostly metal on the outside and fairly heavy, but I was
appalled to see all the plastic parts inside (especially gears), and
surprised to find that it sews quite nicely. It has a built in blind hem and
some sort of stretch stitch - we have probably arrived at the era of
polyester and double knits. This may not be of interest to you fans of older
machines, but I thought I'd share. I really enjoy hearing everyone else's
stories - this is a great group!I'm really grateful to everyone for their
suggestions on justifying my collection to my dh. The one that works best
with him is to look at them as investments (although no one will probably
ever want my 60's machines!) even though I still see them as dear friends!
Sue M.
Date: Fri, 15 Mar 1996 10:23:52 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 3/14/96

	The bottle you have held sewing machine oil. The later version of 
the bottle you have had threads on the top for a cap. There is an 
advertisement for this oil bottle on the back of one of the old 
advertising cards, and it shows that there was a sticker on the bottle, over 
the embossed logo. As far as worth, I have picked these up for $4 to $17. 
Happy Featherweighting,
Date: Fri, 15 Mar 1996 11:43:59 -0500
Subject: Singer bottle

In a message dated 96-03-15 08:57:51 EST, you write:

>Subject: Singer Bottle
>I have a clear bottle with a cork top marked "Singer Machine Co."  It is 
>about 4.75" high and has the trade mark and emblem embedded in the glass. 
>Would like to know what it was used for, how old it is and if it has any 
>value.  Thanks for helping

I don't know what this is but if it says Singer, it has value. Katy
Date: Fri, 15 Mar 1996 11:42:20 -0500
Subject: Model 27

In a message dated 96-03-15 08:57:51 EST, you write:

>Needless to say, he did get it for less than $5.00.  It turns out to be a
>Model 27, DOB 6/10/1901, serial # L880857.  It seems pretty intact, has a
>long funny looking shuttle or bobbin case (at least that space isn't
>empty!), a needle, a single presser foot, and is in a wooden (fabric
>covered) case.  It does not have a belt, and the only electric is a rear
>mounted light bulb (which works).

This sounds like a fascinating find! Don't discount other old Singers, at the
very least it is worth the $5 for the education it can give you if you have
the inclination to learn about it. This is the kind of find I dream about. I
love to take these little beauties apart and put them back together. Have fun
with it and if you truly don't want it, I'd gladly give you $5 for it! Katy
Date: Fri, 15 Mar 1996 15:10:41 -0500
Subject: Fold out box

I recently found someGriest attatchments in a foldout oak box.  The box opens
up unfolding into many(5?) different panels.

The box, I believe,was lined in a dark blue plush fabric.  Maybe it was

Anyway, some of the attatchments had a bit of rust, but most looked good.  I
am very new at this antique hunting thing!  Are they anything that would work
on my featherweight?  I assume not since the box looked older.  Should I go
and retrieve this box of goodies.  What is a fair price?  
Date: Fri, 15 Mar 1996 15:11:56 -0500
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 

I again went to the Pasadena Rose Bowl swap  this last Sunday and found two
more FWs and also an empty case.  Had to walk a half mile carrying my two new
babies , but I was definately happy doing it.  I found an AH and an AM model,
both with all attachments, case,and manuel.  One even had the oil can.  I was
excited to find both and my DH didn't even  get mad!  What an exciting day!
Date: 15 Mar 96 18:32:32 EST
Subject: Contribution

To Gene

Your bottle held Singer oil which you could buy to top up your oil can. I have
some from the 1910 perios and the oil is still in good condition -- that of many
other manufacturers has long turned to jelly.
Date: Sat, 16 Mar 1996 18:02:52 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Another Singer

I hope you're not all sick of hearing about my regular Singer purchases, but
I thought this one was interesting. At an estate sale, a man was selling his
mother's Singer, in a cabinet with attachments, manual, and buttonholer, so
I bought it for $40. When I got it home, I had an awful time getting at the
insides to clean, the screws were so tight, they may have never been turned!
And from the looks of the lint under the throat plate, that could be true!
Anyways, I cleaned, and oiled it and it runs beautifully, as have all my old
Singers. It's a 15-90, and the last date on the manual is 1951, which sounds
about right. The funny thing is that not long ago, I bought a machine for $5
which said made for John G. Meyers Co. of Albany,NY in Japan. When I put the
two machines side by side, they're IDENTICAL - the only problem being is
that I can't get the Japanese one to sew well at all. Singer used to make
such lovely machines! Sue M.
Date: 16 Mar 96 18:04:29 EST
Subject: Contribution

Tp Sue M.
Not a bad guess, your 413 was available in Britain in 1972 and 73. It came in
light grey of beige and was one of Singer's Group Three machines -- zig zag with
built-in stitches. Dont condem plastic gears. Providing the correct plastic is
used they have great advantages over metal -- low cost, no need for lubrication,
quiet running and a shock absorber effect. I'll agree that, unfortunately, in
the early days of plastics not all had these attributes.
Graham F

Date: Sat, 16 Mar 1996 16:02:14 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 3/15/96

To all who inquired about the zigzagger, it is gone.  I didn't receive 
any messages about it untill the FWF of 3/15/96.  I sent the message 
three times because I never saw it on the list.  Sorry it was repeated so 
much.  This zigzagger will not fit the 301a or the featherweight, but if 
anyone else wants one, I am always actively looking for singer 
memorobilia and will make a list of things you want.  Just e-mail me and 
I will keep your messages for further reference.

Thanks to all who inquired.  Betty

PS:  I did find another Singer Sewing Book, by Mary Pickens.  It is dated 
1953, 1954.  It is in good shape.  If anyone is interested, just e-mail 
Date: Sat, 16 Mar 1996 16:30:17 -0800

I would like purchase a featherweight? is there one for sale out their? 
would like one in good shape ?
Date: Sat, 16 Mar 1996 16:36:39 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 3/15/96

Regarding the previous message I just posted to the board,  I have been 
told that both the 301 and 301a are slant needle machines.   I was given 
false information before, so I don't want to enlarge this information 
even further.  Please forgive me.  


Oh, BTW  I just tried out this zigzagger on my 401a using the straight 
stitch and it worked wonderfully.  Fortunately, the 401a already has a 
built in zigzag, but I must say, it was fun watching the zigzagger work.  
It had a perfect stitch on both sides of the fabric.
Date: Sat, 16 Mar 1996 20:19:17 -0500
Subject: machine quilting

I will be teaching a free motion machine quilting class in a few weeks, and I
would rather bring my featherweight to the class than bring a full sized
machine. I am not worried about burning out the motor, as I will be using it
for about five minutes, on a small sample about an 18"square. 

I bought a darning foot from Granny's Quilts in McHenry, IL (thank you

If you have freemotioned on the featherweight, and have some advice for me
please email me. 

Love RobbiE
Date: Sat, 16 Mar 96 20:40:34 -0500
Subject: Chat Anyone??

Hi Everyone, 

Eric &I are testing out different live, online chat possibilities.  Neither 
option requires IRC.  For one option, all you need is the ability to telnet.  
For the other, you would have to download special software, but you use a 
graphical interface that's really cool!!  I'm sending this message to see how 
many people would be intertested in an online featherweight chat and which 
option, or both that you'd be willing to try.  Please e-mail me, Sue@ttsw.com, 
if you are interested.

Sue T
Date: Sat, 16 Mar 96 21:25:18 -0800
Subject: Kenmore

I know this is mostly "Singer" but I thought there just might be some 
"Kenmore" help out there.  You did so well on the "Singer" Bottle.  Found 
out what I wanted to know.  Thanks to all.

Kenmore #158.17800.  The machine is 15.20 years old.  I need a "feed 
system gear."  It's a plactic gear.  The feed dog won't move without it.
Subject: Are Featherweights Magnetic? or is it my DH? 
Date: Sat, 16 Mar 1996 22:29:34 -0600

 OK, y'all, I'm new to F. Fans, but here are my "children"s stories!  My 
husband, last year, after seeing my mom's Featherweights, decided to buy 
me one.  We live in a fairly rural/small town area of Mississippi.  He 
took my two five-year-olds and an 18 month old (by himself, I was 
working a craft fair) to an estate auction and just asked the auctioneer 
if they had any old sewing machines.  They pulled out a 1960-era singer 
in bad condition.  Then someone said, "Isn't there one in a little box 
somewhere?"  and took an hour to find it.  He actually stayed until he 
bought it, untested, almost unseen.  I have a virtually unused 1955 
Featherweight with mint condition case, zig-zagger, all attachments.  
The price would make you sick.  He half-heartedly kept looking this 
year.  Last month he decided he wanted another (the featherweights are 
HIS, so I won't divorce him!)  He walked into the singer store and 
...bought a mint condition 1952 machine.  I think they are attracted to 

Now, here's my question/dilemma:	Anyway, today he called me at work, and 
the same singer guy has two (!) coming in next week, one black and ONE 
WHITE on consignment!!!!!  Y'all, what is too much to pay?  The singer 
guy says that the white ones aren't worth as much.  Are they the same 
quality construction?  I've seen one in my quilt guild that she swears 
is early 50's.  Is that possible?  How many featherweights do I need/can 
I afford?  Did I hear someone say that they told their DH that they were 
investments? 20
Thanks!   It's nice to know I'm not the only compulsive collector of 

Sherrie G

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